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Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to Flight for Entirety, the only Doctor Who commentary podcast that doesn't need Jackie Tyler to shut up.

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That was just rude.

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I'm Nathan.

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I'm Todd.

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I'm James And I'm a miscellany of barking dogs for this episode, you'll find out.

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They're actually not being picked up by the mics, I think.

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Okay, well, we're going to be back in 2019 with a whole new series of flight through entirety, but it's a very special Christmas present this year.

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We're about to watch the Christmas invasion.

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So we are on the Blu-ray.

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I have a very, very terrible old Blu-ray player, which will probably take about 5 seconds to get going when I press the button, but you can see the beautiful CG rendered Eccleston era Tardis console in front of you, I think.

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Didn't know his randomiser doubled as a bingo.

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Can you believe how old this looks?

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Just from the James.

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It looks fabulous.

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It did.

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It came out.

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So excited.

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Yeah, no, it does.

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It does look a bit tired.

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The very the new Blu-ray boxets look lovely.

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We do.

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So we're on the episode selection thing and the Christmas invasion is ready to go, so we want you to press play on your own Blu-ray player.

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When I next, say the code word gherkin.

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So, uh, as soon as they say that word, I want you to, you don't know why we...

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Listeners, I worked it out.

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Yeah, it's not something that David Tennant has 2 of, right?

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It's something else.

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It is.

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All right, are we ready?

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Gherkin.

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Okay.

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And so it's the very 1st shot of Rose.

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In Spearhead from Space. lovely to see her again.

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Oh, dear.

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I like the ozone layer there.

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Yeah, when we had one.

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Gosh, it seems like a long time ago, doesn't it?

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We didn't have one even then, honey.

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Jackie's bauble.

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And her big white bush there.

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Hey.

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Sorry.

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And here we go.

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I love this scene because it's, you know, like it's not super subtle, but it is sort of TV subtle in the sense that we've got, you know, we don't have to have explained to us how Jackie's feeling right now because she's an actor.

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Exactly.

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I'm like, this...

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Oh, look.

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There's a lovely tea cosy and some, well, how did you describe them?

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They have BBC light entertainment mechanics.

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That one was quite good, actually.

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What I like is they hear the TARDIS are going, but they neither of them says the TARDIS, like both of them just say rose.

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But that's because BBC mechanics don't have speaking parts.

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But they but they know how to hammer in full...

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You know, full Gary Downey on it.

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They felt more like backing dances for bananarama than proper hammerers, but now we're back on, gee, someone needs to do something about that.

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This is so fantastic.

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I mean, it's a classic series fan.

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I never thought that the TARDIS would ever do this and it just took me by surprise.

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Real?

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Oh, real?

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fake.

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I used to do this with my Lego TARDIS after the threat of Sutek.

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Do you remember?

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Did you used to play that?

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It was the 1st time I ever saw it spinning.

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Oh, look, and it's David Tennant doing his John Sims auditioned for life on Mars.

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Will he get the part?

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No.

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I like all these people in the background.

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I never really seen them before.

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They're just standing around.

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Is that wee Jimmy Cranky?

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There isn't?

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No, it's David Tim.

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I know what you mean.

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No, I never noticed there are actual autons in the background.

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Oh, look, you know, BBC extras, you're not paid, love.

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I think it's Dawn and Jennifer back then.

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It really is.

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John Sims does exactly that in the 1st episode of Life on Mars and he's wearing the same little outfit.

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Hello?

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I am a Salurian, and I'm going for my tea.

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Yeah, that was the launch.

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In a doctor.

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Doctor Who?

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God, I miss her so much.

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Yeah, she's a natural actor.

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Whereas tenant is actually the opposite.

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He's more like pert.

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Now I've been watching Pertwee again in that.

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Well, pertly said he didn't know how to play it, but he did.

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He played it as Ronald Coleman.

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Do you remember ever reading those articles in DWM when he got terribly chatty in the early 90s before he sadly, before he sadly lost him?

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But, you know, he did love the matinee idols and grew up with them. you know, Danny Kane, all the rest.

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He was Danny Kay's stand-in.

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I'm just going to talk about purple.

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But oh, yes.

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Ring.

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It's a lovely.

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No, I've never noticed that the Doctor Who logo was Baker-lite wrapped oven tray before.

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I guess it's a Christmas theme.

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How crisp that title card is.

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Freckles.

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Oh, it's so many freckles.

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That's just new.

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Like new.

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What's she doing with it?

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Oh, no, that's explained, isn't it?

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What she's got stethoscope in the house.

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Yeah, yeah.

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There's a medical student in another flat or something.

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Cough.

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Her name's Martha.

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Yes Fabulous.

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So on the billy watch right now, that's what's produced by Phil Collision.

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It does.

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Did it?

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okay.

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I think people have had a bit too much to drink for Christmas.

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How far would are Billy's teeth for this one?

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They're not new.

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She hasn't got the new teeth yet, has she?

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Was that round one, was it?

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Has she got the new teeth yet?

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Sorry that was the champagne.

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Because when she comes back in season four, honestly, I think she's going to eat the camera.

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Yeah, she can do heart stuff.

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Oh, look. come onto the screen before she does.

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Yeah, no, she doesn't look at his crotch to check whether he has 2 things.

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That disappoints me.

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Yeah.

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It's not my memory.

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Well, look, space dust.

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What was his nickname on set?

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David 10 inch.

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So he coined it himself.

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It doesn't count.

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That's it.

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Oh, speaking of which.

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That looks very rude.

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It does look slightly rude.

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Cosmic sperm.

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That's why her everything in her fridge is white hot.

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Because it doesn't have a back?

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Correct.

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Much like...

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Like her tumble dryer and her washing machine.

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Yep, n none of her white goods have a back.

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It explains so much.

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White bads, wouldn't it?

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Oh, look.

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Tears in her eyes.

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Proper acting from Billy.

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What me and him were, you know, like, a rat and a rat and a lab, you know.

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She's really selling this.

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I mean, I tend to forget, you know, we're all classic serious fans here, so we're used to all this, but I'm sure that you knew who fans out there would have been just morning, morning, Christopher.

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But we're sort of going, well, here's the new guy.

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Let's wait and see what's happening.

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I think this is so well done because Russell knows exactly how you react when your doctor goes.

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You know, because he's experience...

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You bring you bring a bloke in from the costumongers with a pair of stripy, winsy pyjamas.

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Isn't that lovely?

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He is.

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The PM.

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Isn't it lovely?

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It's not a very flashing suit though.

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No, well.

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I do love Penelope Wilton.

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TVs, Penelope Wilson.

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She's just fantastic. she?

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Such a pity what he does to it at the end of the episode.

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And we'll get there.

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Would it have been amazing if we'd actually had Brexit under Penelope Wilton?

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I don't think he would have had Brexit.

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Oh, look, see, this is the handsome Daniel Fwellen. gotten how pretty and well she was.

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Yeah, he's cute.

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Pixie like as well.

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Yeah, he's super young.

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You know, like when you're a kid, you just sort of read bald and bearded as, you know, an old guy.

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He must only be like, he must be less than 30 short.

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He's 13.

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Honey, I was bold and bearded by the time I was 29.

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That looks a bit fake.

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It does.

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Yeah, it's Dr...

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That's awesome.

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Is he in other things?

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I have the feeling that Russell may have worked with him before when he was a child in some kind of TV show.

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Yeah, something like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, real branding.

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We've had Dr. Pepper in the fridge and it stayed...

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Russell's getting a few little titbits for Christmas.

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Well, she supplies. yes.

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Other fragrances are also available.

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Jodie Scuff.

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Jodie Scuff, Jodie Scuff.

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Look, it was Jody all the time.

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I do like Jody Scarf.

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I wish it was a one.

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The shoes?

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Jody Scarf. available from Paul Smith.

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Well, that's the idea. like Billy's hair here.

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Okay, so we're going to shoehorn some menace into this scene.

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Are we Christmas weeping angel?

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Drag queens. you can get a cream for that.

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Information.

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Yeah.

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And and some great sort of legwork here from from Noel.

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Look at this. bouncing up and down.

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Is he made of plastic in this?

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Is it just that they're all so young?

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I think in this, this is the story where I really begin to like Norse performance.

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It just seems more natural and less season one.

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He actually does, doesn't he?

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And they're really good together.

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I love her, him making fun of her for those.

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Oh, I love, you know, hearing those stories about the Tartars.

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You know, he's really funny and he's he's not being a victim, you know.

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Yeah, no, this is, you're right, Todd, this is the point at which you really, you get something to do.

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It's not just a joke character.

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I mean, actually no.

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The end of season one, sorry, series one is where that really happens, but this is the moment which you fall in love with him, isn't it?

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Yeah, is when he's getting shot.

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Well, why are they trying to actually kill them?

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I just want to know.

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I don't quite get it.

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Because the episode was underrunning?

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No, I think it is to put some Christmas menace in.

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So we have Santa's and we have a Christmas tree and that's some proper Christmassy menace.

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This is the 1st time that it's been Christmas on Doctor Who with one notable exception.

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And so they're having some sort of fun Christmassy stuff, but it doesn't actually fit with the rest of the plot.

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And it has the thinnest possible justification in dialogue with that sort of pilot fish thing that the doctor says, but it doesn't actually make any sense.

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I guess I don't mind them being pilot fish, like, you know, coming down to check out what's going on, but, you know, to try and do away with them.

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Yeah, somehow, somehow they know that Rose and Mickey have something to do with the doctor, the doctor explains that they're going to...

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Yeah, something and they're going to run a battery off him and stuff.

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But it all holds together for long enough that you don't worry about it until the episode's over. can chew on some Santas and a Christmas tree into it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And why not?

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It's fun.

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Yeah.

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Oh, here we go.

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More space time.

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He should have had a breath mint.

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Yeah.

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He's got to give up vaping.

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Halitosis is a terrible affection.

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Get off the phone, get off the phone. hilarious.

250
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And we're about to come up too, I think. this the sequence?

251
00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:08.279
Yeah.

252
00:11:08.340 --> 00:11:10.320
This is this...

253
00:11:11.100 --> 00:11:11.759
Oh, sorry.

254
00:11:11.820 --> 00:11:16.500
This is actually one of my my favourite sequence ever.

255
00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.779
With all the hoop earrings.

256
00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:19.500
Almost ever.

257
00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:23.220
Like, it's just this when it starts to spin.

258
00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:29.100
And when she says her line, I just think, I just I'm already laughing.

259
00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.720
That's so funny, Todd, because normally I think that I would have expected you to think that it was too silly.

260
00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:34.860
No, I love it.

261
00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.259
It's the ultimate Jackie moment.

262
00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.740
It's in no way real at any point.

263
00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:42.480
The whole thing is fantastic.

264
00:11:42.539 --> 00:11:43.860
This is fantastic.

265
00:11:43.860 --> 00:11:44.580
That shot straight.

266
00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:45.720
Oh, sorry, that is, yes.

267
00:11:45.779 --> 00:11:48.360
But the like for the moment you see that's not real.

268
00:11:48.419 --> 00:11:49.320
That's right.

269
00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:52.440
It's point of view shots are real.

270
00:11:52.500 --> 00:11:53.639
Oh, no, just let it.

271
00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:54.600
Shops everything up.

272
00:11:54.659 --> 00:11:55.620
It's fantastic.

273
00:11:56.700 --> 00:11:59.460
Oh, yes, you've used the chair before.

274
00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:00.419
That's very effective.

275
00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:08.879
And Noel has little, like, their little explos- explosives or something in the chair leg that are exploding it.

276
00:12:09.299 --> 00:12:11.519
Uh, it's so great.

277
00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:14.580
No, first, she's too...

278
00:12:14.580 --> 00:12:18.960
When's Big Finish going to give Noel his own series?

279
00:12:19.019 --> 00:12:21.899
I thought you were going to say, give the Christmas tree itself.

280
00:12:22.019 --> 00:12:22.799
That's what I thought too.

281
00:12:22.860 --> 00:12:23.940
No.

282
00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:24.600
Okay.

283
00:12:24.659 --> 00:12:26.820
Mickey and Martha, Mickey and Martha, Mickey and Martha.

284
00:12:26.940 --> 00:12:28.740
There you go. finish spinoff.

285
00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.340
There's some great acting happening here, isn't there?

286
00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.460
It's also cleverly, very close to what children will be playing at home.

287
00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:39.659
Oh, yeah.

288
00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.580
That is golden.

289
00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.679
Christmas tree.

290
00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.340
Oh, look at that.

291
00:12:51.659 --> 00:12:53.879
Hair trembling with emotion.

292
00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:55.320
It's got great herography.

293
00:12:55.379 --> 00:12:56.279
Yeah, yeah.

294
00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:04.679
So of course, we're going to have the outline of the Christmas tree in that wall for the rest of the episode, which is sort of really great.

295
00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:08.039
This is actually quite well judged too, isn't it?

296
00:13:08.100 --> 00:13:10.259
Because you don't want the doctor.

297
00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:16.679
Like the setup where we don't have the doctor for like half an hour is a good decision.

298
00:13:16.740 --> 00:13:17.759
I agree.

299
00:13:17.820 --> 00:13:20.159
It also shapes the entire story.

300
00:13:20.940 --> 00:13:27.059
He's absence is what causes a number of people to die.

301
00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:36.659
It's what causes Harriet Jones to make the terrible decisions she has to make because she's seen what the world could be like when he's not there to save them.

302
00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:46.019
And it's what destroys his relationship with her and inevitably ends up with her, you know, not being prime minister and then dying at the hand of the Daleks.

303
00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:46.919
Oh, spoilers.

304
00:13:47.700 --> 00:13:49.799
I think they watched it.

305
00:13:49.860 --> 00:13:50.639
Spoilers.

306
00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:52.679
Well, she doesn't, does she?

307
00:13:52.740 --> 00:13:54.600
She drops through a trap door and escapes on a motorbike?

308
00:13:54.659 --> 00:13:55.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

309
00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:56.159
That's cannon.

310
00:13:56.220 --> 00:13:57.299
Yeah, yeah.

311
00:13:57.299 --> 00:13:58.559
No, Russell said it was gone.

312
00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:02.220
He cartooned it in everything.

313
00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.600
Is that in the is that in the poetry book?

314
00:14:06.659 --> 00:14:06.960
Yes.

315
00:14:07.019 --> 00:14:07.620
Yeah, yeah.

316
00:14:07.980 --> 00:14:10.440
Now the Jackie moment coming up.

317
00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.440
Uh, he's so rude to James.

318
00:14:14.580 --> 00:14:18.360
David Tennant looks so different in different shots.

319
00:14:18.419 --> 00:14:25.919
Like when he's sort of rocking the giant teeth. like he looks sort of quite fierce, but sometimes he's got sort of a very weak sort of chin.

320
00:14:25.980 --> 00:14:28.019
He's very sort of odd.

321
00:14:28.620 --> 00:14:31.440
They do work together well.

322
00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:39.720
Oh, dear.

323
00:14:42.899 --> 00:14:45.419
It's most about hair.

324
00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.940
It is cheap clothing.

325
00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.299
Do you think the gurning is a Scottish doctor thing?

326
00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:52.919
No, oh, do you think?

327
00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:53.460
does it?

328
00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:53.879
He does it.

329
00:14:53.940 --> 00:14:54.960
Capaldi, does it?

330
00:14:55.019 --> 00:14:55.799
Jodie's not Scottish.

331
00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:57.299
No, she doesn't Gurn.

332
00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:58.860
She just sort of wrinkles.

333
00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:00.179
She does wrinkly nose eye acting.

334
00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:00.720
Yeah.

335
00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:04.080
She does Samantha from Bewitched.

336
00:15:04.139 --> 00:15:07.320
I was going to say, it's actually more Kenneth Williams mid-carean.

337
00:15:07.620 --> 00:15:09.240
It's okay.

338
00:15:09.299 --> 00:15:11.820
I'm getting very intense.

339
00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:12.779
What are you saying, Tom?

340
00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.100
He's intense.

341
00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:18.059
She's getting very blue over there in the corner.

342
00:15:18.179 --> 00:15:21.539
I think Silla Gate has had very adverse reaction.

343
00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:22.259
Oh, in a good way.

344
00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:27.179
So that actually does look like Captain Jack's overcoat, doesn't it?

345
00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.460
No, but I think, isn't it Howard's?

346
00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:30.840
Howard's...

347
00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:32.220
A man can dream.

348
00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.480
Oh, gosh, he does look incredibly young.

349
00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:38.639
Do you remember dial-up?

350
00:15:38.700 --> 00:15:40.080
Dial-up.

351
00:15:40.139 --> 00:15:40.919
Yeah.

352
00:15:40.980 --> 00:15:41.399
Look at that.

353
00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:43.080
No one had dialup even then.

354
00:15:43.139 --> 00:15:44.700
No, we did.

355
00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.299
Oh no, that's the sea devils.

356
00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.980
It's so hard to... wade through the mists of time.

357
00:15:56.100 --> 00:15:57.419
And I really miss this.

358
00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.460
No one has really properly done this again.

359
00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.220
No, we haven't been probed in ages, have we?

360
00:16:02.340 --> 00:16:04.559
Daniel Llewellyn, what?

361
00:16:04.620 --> 00:16:07.559
Because you all are familiar with his pixie charmingness.

362
00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:08.879
No, we don't know.

363
00:16:08.940 --> 00:16:17.519
Yeah, that can be something that the viewers at home can Google. because Alta Vista if they're out.

364
00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:18.480
That's it.

365
00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:20.159
If it's 2005.

366
00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:22.259
They can dogpile.

367
00:16:25.379 --> 00:16:30.779
Well, duck, duck, go if you don't want to be, you know, owned by whoever is selling your information.

368
00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:32.399
No, that's I use that.

369
00:16:32.460 --> 00:16:33.059
Do you?

370
00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:33.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

371
00:16:33.779 --> 00:16:35.100
For your private inter web.

372
00:16:35.100 --> 00:16:36.000
My private inter web.

373
00:16:36.059 --> 00:16:39.539
It's like they keep focussing on the misspelling of Guinevere.

374
00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.039
They got the...

375
00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:42.840
Look, look, we misspelled it. this book.

376
00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:45.360
Oh, dear.

377
00:16:45.419 --> 00:16:52.080
But yeah, there's not, you're not getting that frame rate on dial-up with that animated shark.

378
00:16:52.139 --> 00:16:52.860
I can...

379
00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:54.960
Oh, used to sit there forever waiting to see.

380
00:16:55.019 --> 00:16:56.700
Is he got pants on or not?

381
00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:58.559
Load, load, load.

382
00:16:58.559 --> 00:16:59.639
To buffer first.

383
00:16:59.700 --> 00:17:02.100
Oh, load meant a very different thing back then.

384
00:17:02.340 --> 00:17:04.259
Oh, darling.

385
00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:06.000
This is a peachy podcast.

386
00:17:06.059 --> 00:17:06.480
No star.

387
00:17:06.539 --> 00:17:07.019
Oh, hello.

388
00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:10.019
Oh, has anyone else seen Bohemian Rhapsody?

389
00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.480
That's so effective?

390
00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:13.140
And look at them.

391
00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:14.759
That's so wonderful.

392
00:17:14.819 --> 00:17:15.900
Freddie hadn't been dead that long.

393
00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:16.740
I think it's cruel.

394
00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:22.859
I love the way it just smashes into the news report that we have aliens.

395
00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.839
Trinity Wells.

396
00:17:24.900 --> 00:17:25.500
Yeah.

397
00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.240
I miss you, Trinity.

398
00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.140
And the music...

399
00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:32.519
It still feels like an episode of the Bill.

400
00:17:32.579 --> 00:17:34.440
No, but a good thing.

401
00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:35.640
But look where we are.

402
00:17:35.700 --> 00:17:38.339
It's so wonderful rather than just being...

403
00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:39.480
No, no, no.

404
00:17:39.539 --> 00:17:41.160
That's not kind of castle.

405
00:17:41.220 --> 00:17:41.700
No, no.

406
00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:43.980
That is kind of Castle, just...

407
00:17:43.980 --> 00:17:44.579
Oh, is it really?

408
00:17:44.579 --> 00:17:46.019
Yeah, that's...

409
00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:47.039
Yeah.

410
00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:49.140
But that's so great.

411
00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:59.759
You know, it is that thing where Russell does something to London during this, you know, he puts a big auton base sort of under the Thames embankment.

412
00:17:59.819 --> 00:18:02.579
He puts unit thing in the Tower of London.

413
00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:03.720
I'd forgotten.

414
00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:06.900
This is the 1st return of the multicoloured berries.

415
00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:10.740
I'd forgotten that unit came back now.

416
00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.000
I always thought it was...

417
00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.880
They are briefly an alien.

418
00:18:14.940 --> 00:18:15.539
Are they?

419
00:18:15.539 --> 00:18:19.980
But they don't wear the same outfits and they don't get a speaking role.

420
00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.039
They just get to be electrocuted by Joseph Green.

421
00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.680
Yeah, this is I know who you are.

422
00:18:28.740 --> 00:18:32.519
Do you notice they're actually not bee, not pearls.

423
00:18:32.579 --> 00:18:33.900
They're stainless steel beads.

424
00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:35.940
Jones.

425
00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.539
The Le Mans 24 hours.

426
00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:40.680
She must have gotten for winning that.

427
00:18:40.740 --> 00:18:42.960
No, it's it's Benoit.

428
00:18:43.019 --> 00:18:44.880
Pearls don't look like Benoit.

429
00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:47.460
Look an Australian.

430
00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:48.299
Is that strange?

431
00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:49.019
Is that her assistant?

432
00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:50.099
Oh no, it's Daniel.

433
00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:50.880
Where is an Australian?

434
00:18:50.940 --> 00:18:51.779
Australian.

435
00:18:51.779 --> 00:18:52.500
Alex.

436
00:18:52.500 --> 00:18:53.460
Australian.

437
00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:53.819
Yes.

438
00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:55.680
It's Adam Garcia.

439
00:18:55.740 --> 00:18:56.579
Adam Garcia.

440
00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:57.720
My favourite thing.

441
00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:58.980
Oh, goodly, so it is.

442
00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:04.019
She introduces him and says, I've never had a right right hand man before and I quite like it.

443
00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.660
And he says, I quite like it myself.

444
00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.660
I bet you do, darling.

445
00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:21.059
Oh, and here's Sally, who gets to be Daniel Llewellyn's love interest in the novelisation.

446
00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:22.859
No, I just finished buying that. week.

447
00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:24.299
What did you think, young James?

448
00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:25.259
really enjoyed it.

449
00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:26.640
Yeah, I thought it was really fun.

450
00:19:26.700 --> 00:19:28.980
Was it true to the germaneness of this?

451
00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.240
It's almost word for word the same, really.

452
00:19:33.299 --> 00:19:35.940
But flesh is out a lot of the scenes.

453
00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:42.059
A lot of the descriptive text is really quite nice.

454
00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:49.680
And the minor characters, like Sally and Llewellyn get a...

455
00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.480
Yeah, they get a thing nice fleshing out.

456
00:19:51.539 --> 00:19:54.960
I like how the unit guy talks about the Martians look nothing like this.

457
00:19:55.019 --> 00:20:00.900
Like, it's a little nod to classic series fans. you know Thank God we'll never see those crappy fibreglass.

458
00:20:01.019 --> 00:20:03.180
Lizard man ever again.

459
00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.660
With heads that are not proportional to the rest of their body.

460
00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:10.500
Do we mean those Martians or to mean the ones from the ambassadors?

461
00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:12.480
I love the ambassadors.

462
00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:14.579
I love them.

463
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:15.420
Love them.

464
00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.339
Mamma Mia.

465
00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:18.359
Oh my goodness, it is.

466
00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.400
Bohemian Rhapsody.

467
00:20:20.460 --> 00:20:23.880
I thought you were going to be very unkind and say free to a nanafried.

468
00:20:24.660 --> 00:20:27.359
I didn't know Apple were reforming again.

469
00:20:27.420 --> 00:20:29.759
It's tank cartoons.

470
00:20:30.900 --> 00:20:35.880
No, they are, but they're using, you've heard about that, haven't you?

471
00:20:35.940 --> 00:20:38.039
This is actually the new Aberclip.

472
00:20:38.099 --> 00:20:44.220
They're using animated simulacre so that they will look like they did in 76.

473
00:20:44.339 --> 00:20:46.079
Oh dear, that's going to work well.

474
00:20:46.140 --> 00:20:48.359
I mean, like Grand Moft Hark and all over again.

475
00:20:48.539 --> 00:20:52.859
Look like those things on the web you're not allowed to look at, now Tumblr's changed.

476
00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:53.880
It's what it looks like.

477
00:20:53.940 --> 00:20:56.400
Oh, ooh, that looks wrong.

478
00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:57.539
What?

479
00:20:57.539 --> 00:21:01.619
The subtitle with TARDIS spelt with a capital T. Oh, no, that's just a word.

480
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:03.240
I'm gonna write to my MP.

481
00:21:03.660 --> 00:21:05.519
They should know better.

482
00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:08.519
Yeah.

483
00:21:08.940 --> 00:21:11.160
It's very interesting.

484
00:21:11.220 --> 00:21:12.299
I think we've learnt a bit.

485
00:21:12.299 --> 00:21:12.900
I like all this.

486
00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.599
I like all this stuff that they're talking about the fact they're not translating.

487
00:21:15.660 --> 00:21:18.119
The doctor's doctor does not well.

488
00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:20.220
Therefore, this translation's not happening.

489
00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:31.859
It's all, this whole, the construction is this whole story and the way it builds to the moment where we need the doctor back, we want the doctor back, and come on, give us the doctor and then we finally get it, is just so clever.

490
00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.819
I think too, that it's not Chekhov's translation problem.

491
00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:39.839
You know, like we aren't there sitting waiting for it to fix itself.

492
00:21:39.900 --> 00:21:42.900
It just looks like it works as exposition in context.

493
00:21:43.019 --> 00:21:46.859
And so later on when the Sicrax starts speaking English it's a surprise.

494
00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:53.160
Can you imagine that we would have had a British Prime Minister that would have spoken like that to George Bush?

495
00:21:53.220 --> 00:21:59.460
Well, yes, and that indeed, there was an American president who would have been interested.

496
00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:01.319
Yeah, but that wasn't about him.

497
00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:09.240
But remember that when she's introduced, one of the things that we learn about her is that she voted not to do the invasion of Iraq.

498
00:22:09.299 --> 00:22:13.980
She voted against it and she said it and she even makes reference to it.

499
00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:15.539
And so this is, again, that.

500
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:24.599
And it's cruel of Russell to do this because we know now what's going to happen to her at the end of the episode, but she's super likeable.

501
00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:26.940
And what that sets up in series three.

502
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:30.660
Why do you think Russell, and he's not the 1st or last time he's done this?

503
00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:35.160
Why does he diminish or destabilise his heroines like this?

504
00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:45.180
I actually think that I think that it's the most interesting and dramatic moment in the entire episode.

505
00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:55.559
You know, it's an episode where Earth gets invaded and lots of silly things happen, but the really, really dramatic thing is someone that we love, someone that we loved through 2 episodes and we're made to love here.

506
00:22:55.619 --> 00:22:57.480
Which is an eternity in our little world.

507
00:22:57.539 --> 00:23:03.000
Yeah, because she's a good, ethical, decent person and she makes one wrong decision.

508
00:23:03.059 --> 00:23:04.740
And is it a wrong decision as well?

509
00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:07.019
Right, his standards, by his standards.

510
00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:12.839
And she knows too. when it happens, because I think she acts her socks off in that scene.

511
00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:14.819
Oh, she's just tremendous.

512
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:18.240
Yeah, so...

513
00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:20.819
The other thing is they may not have been able to get her back after this.

514
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:24.000
That's how the thing she might have been off doing a lot of stuff, so...

515
00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:25.019
It's terribly popular.

516
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:33.839
I think he was trying to destabilise our very natures and the whole nanny wanting that we have, the desire, the way the reason we built up Thatcher.

517
00:23:33.900 --> 00:23:37.079
I think he's actually telling us to stop worshipping the people we put in charge.

518
00:23:37.140 --> 00:23:46.319
There probably is something to be said for that, you know, that even a politician who we love and who whose politics we agree with is still a politician.

519
00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:48.720
Yeah, there's still sort of real politic.

520
00:23:48.779 --> 00:23:50.819
Oh, I think that's...

521
00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:53.099
It's the, I mean, Mark...

522
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.319
Marcus Aurelius said the same thing.

523
00:23:55.380 --> 00:24:05.579
You know, you do, and Caesar had, you know, whispered, had a tiny Daniel Llewellyn next to him saying, remember thou art but a man?

524
00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:06.539
Yeah, you'll die.

525
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:07.920
Yeah, and that.

526
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:09.779
You will.

527
00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:19.680
Oh, and that there's no reason for this scene except to show how incredibly loving and wonderful Jackie.

528
00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:21.480
She's just sniffing Howard on his job.

529
00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:27.119
Oh, isn't she?

530
00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:33.720
This is when about the time, um, you remember when Billy was saying Rose Tyler's the most selfish character she's ever played?

531
00:24:33.779 --> 00:24:35.640
No, there's a much worse scene coming up.

532
00:24:35.700 --> 00:24:36.359
You wait.

533
00:24:36.420 --> 00:24:37.140
You wait.

534
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.059
She's horrific in it, I want to slap her.

535
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:42.000
But this is the old slap it here.

536
00:24:42.059 --> 00:24:45.420
The proper doctor wouldn't be like this. is what the kids at home are thinking.

537
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:46.619
Yeah, of course, yes.

538
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:50.640
If you're mourning a loss of the previous incarnation.

539
00:24:50.700 --> 00:24:53.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

540
00:24:56.460 --> 00:25:00.539
Oh, magic blue glove.

541
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:02.039
You're like my new glove.

542
00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:03.119
It's shiny and blue.

543
00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:05.579
It's a bit Michael Jackson, isn't it?

544
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.339
And the gloves, too.

545
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:08.640
Yeah.

546
00:25:10.740 --> 00:25:12.420
Who is it that says it looks like a spell?

547
00:25:12.779 --> 00:25:15.539
Yes, it's it's the scientist.

548
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:16.200
I love that.

549
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.500
Well, sci-fi fan.

550
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:20.940
He probably watches Game of Thrones.

551
00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:22.500
From the future.

552
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:23.220
Yeah.

553
00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:27.119
Now this is so inventive.

554
00:25:27.299 --> 00:25:30.480
Don't you think this is such an interesting thing to happen?

555
00:25:31.140 --> 00:25:36.779
It is very interesting and I, again, not seen anything like this before on the show.

556
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:42.359
It's much more what a soap should be doing if soaps were written for us and not the other way around.

557
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:44.519
We're writing...

558
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:46.200
Russell is writing for soap audiences.

559
00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:48.299
Imagine if soapwriters wrote for us.

560
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:49.619
This is what we'd see.

561
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:50.160
Yeah.

562
00:25:50.160 --> 00:26:04.319
Well, the thing I like about this too, is that, you know, lately we've seen Doctor Who, where there's been like 2 extra characters on the regular cast or 3 extra characters, and it's very frequently that there'll just be a small number of talking parts.

563
00:26:04.380 --> 00:26:08.880
But there are a lot of talking parts here and stacks of extras. of extras.

564
00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:09.720
Look at that.

565
00:26:09.779 --> 00:26:10.259
Yeah.

566
00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:10.980
Yeah.

567
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:15.779
It's, it sells the, uh, the scale.

568
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:17.039
Yeah, exactly.

569
00:26:17.099 --> 00:26:18.660
Of of the danger.

570
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.099
It's so good.

571
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.980
And it's happening now as we're watching too.

572
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:27.000
I swear that little girl in that sequence almost cracks up when she goes out of shot.

573
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.180
Honestly, go back rewatch it.

574
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:31.799
We're not rewinding.

575
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:32.819
Oh please.

576
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.140
We would never do anything like that.

577
00:26:37.500 --> 00:26:42.000
Oh, and the guy wearing the reindeer you know, antlers.

578
00:26:42.059 --> 00:26:46.619
It's all very convenient that absolutely none of them are like just in their undies or something like that.

579
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.539
Someone or nude.

580
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:50.759
Someone gets out of the shower and heads up to the roof.

581
00:26:50.819 --> 00:26:51.539
Exactly.

582
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.660
Do they make a joke about that in the novel?

583
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:55.680
I can't remember.

584
00:26:57.539 --> 00:26:59.039
Yeah.

585
00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:02.099
It's so clever. still feels like an episode of the Bill.

586
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:07.440
But what's interesting is the fact that not everybody's affected and you're trying to work out why that is at this point.

587
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.160
Oh, he's Danny. isn't he sweet?

588
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.140
Gherkin.

589
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:18.839
I'd worked that out, Nathan.

590
00:27:19.140 --> 00:27:21.359
Have a drink, too, listener.

591
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.920
It was a powerful moment at the time and it still isn't.

592
00:27:26.579 --> 00:27:33.779
This is seeing this now contrasting with what we've just viewed this year, with New Who.

593
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:42.299
It is closer to new who than pretty much anything we've had since the glory dose of Russell, isn't it?

594
00:27:42.420 --> 00:27:44.039
Season 11?

595
00:27:44.099 --> 00:27:46.980
But it still doesn't feel at all like this.

596
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.140
It's very close, but it's not quite.

597
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.039
Well, I mean, this that is hilariously ludicrous.

598
00:27:53.099 --> 00:27:59.279
Like, you know, obviously everyone in Italy is sort of clambering to climb on top of the Colosseum.

599
00:27:59.339 --> 00:27:59.759
I see him.

600
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:03.000
They were supposed to have them on the harbour bridge and in the opera house.

601
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:03.539
Yeah, yeah.

602
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.819
I'm pretty sure you can't get up there.

603
00:28:05.819 --> 00:28:09.240
And I did try last year. onto the Harbour Bridge.

604
00:28:09.299 --> 00:28:11.039
No, to climb on top of the...

605
00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:11.400
Oh, yes.

606
00:28:11.460 --> 00:28:12.180
Coliseum.

607
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:12.539
Yes.

608
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:12.900
No.

609
00:28:12.900 --> 00:28:18.660
Get your hint on to the opera house with your spray can.

610
00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:18.960
No.

611
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:20.819
That was you.

612
00:28:24.779 --> 00:28:27.000
Oh, it's so good.

613
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.240
And I do think this works incredibly well.

614
00:28:30.299 --> 00:28:38.519
Russell does a great job of even being able to keep the doctor offscreen because this is like the Pertuy era.

615
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:39.480
Tension anticipation.

616
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.039
Well, again, it is Spearhead.

617
00:28:41.099 --> 00:28:51.299
Yeah, there's enough people around that we know and like, and he very quickly makes us like Danny and handsome right hand man.

618
00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:56.039
You know, it is something that Russell does just incredibly well.

619
00:28:56.099 --> 00:28:57.900
The major's very pretty as well.

620
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.059
Yeah, he's pretty handsome.

621
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.200
Yeah.

622
00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:02.940
And convincing.

623
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.960
He'll be back, though.

624
00:29:04.019 --> 00:29:06.599
I'm sure that they'll bring unit back and die terribly.

625
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:07.559
Not at all.

626
00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:13.740
And all of that's so interesting too.

627
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:14.880
All of it.

628
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.660
Intriguing.

629
00:29:15.779 --> 00:29:19.259
Such a, you know, a strange thing to do.

630
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.079
It's an audience that's grown up with Agatha Christie.

631
00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:29.940
So we like little pieces at a time and then we rationalise it as we go and post-rationalize it when she was a messy, messy woman.

632
00:29:29.940 --> 00:29:36.839
They used to throw a dinner out of a creation, just, you know, throw everything in and then fib and play around with the facts.

633
00:29:36.900 --> 00:29:39.599
But the human mind likes doing this and Russell knows we do.

634
00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:43.319
I think too, it shows you how to do exposition.

635
00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:51.359
You know, you don't just have one character just flop a whole, you know, speech of exposition in particular.

636
00:29:51.420 --> 00:30:01.920
No, I'm not thinking about anything in particular right now, but this is exposition happening in a scene full of lots of interesting people where we get character stuff at the same time. conversational between people.

637
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.859
Yeah, and they're finding it out.

638
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:05.880
They're finding it out.

639
00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:06.539
They don't know it.

640
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:08.099
So it's interesting.

641
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:09.299
And engaging.

642
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:10.799
I love this.

643
00:30:10.859 --> 00:30:13.200
The Queen's speech has been cancelled.

644
00:30:13.259 --> 00:30:15.539
Because they're all on the roof.

645
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:33.000
Just her look off camera and then her sort of slightly sort of shamefaced, you know, they're on the roof.

646
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:40.079
See, subtle touches that Russell does, that you just, the mind of a genius.

647
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.440
Oh, look, preliminary reports indicate genetic link.

648
00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:45.119
Did you see on the Chiron down the bottom?

649
00:30:45.180 --> 00:30:47.700
And now I'm...

650
00:30:47.700 --> 00:30:51.000
Message to these. this is so great.

651
00:30:51.059 --> 00:30:53.160
And the music is doing now.

652
00:30:53.220 --> 00:30:58.319
It's always, I think it's, I don't know whether her teeth are that far forward or her tongue's always pushing in that way.

653
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.039
I think there's things going on in that woman's mouth.

654
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:03.480
The teeth are regenerating as we speak.

655
00:31:03.539 --> 00:31:06.599
They're actually forcing their way out of her gums.

656
00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:07.680
She needs to make more room for it.

657
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:09.119
Maybe that's it.

658
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:18.000
Oh, and having her pixelated for on a TV screen, making that appeal, like giving that distance between her and us.

659
00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:21.180
And here is where Rose is utterly horrific.

660
00:31:21.660 --> 00:31:27.299
And Jackie's, the look on Jackie's face is so funny because she's not putting up with any of Rose's crap here.

661
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.339
Because the doctor's gone.

662
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:36.839
He's left me There are 3000000000 people about to jump to their deaths, but we're really worried about how the doctors left you.

663
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.000
And look, she's still a child.

664
00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:40.680
Come on, do we see Camille's face?

665
00:31:40.740 --> 00:31:41.519
I'm sorry.

666
00:31:41.579 --> 00:31:43.380
Oh, sorry, it's his. sorry.

667
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.099
But I'm sorry.

668
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.279
I don't care in this rewatch.

669
00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:51.240
But now, it's lucky nobody just sort of...

670
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.740
Accidentally... on the edge.

671
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.059
Oh, and so look at them, look at extras running around in the background.

672
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.140
Remember when we used to have that?

673
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:03.299
So great.

674
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.099
Like any a year ago.

675
00:32:05.579 --> 00:32:12.240
It does look this year had some beautifully expensive moments, but this does actually look like it had a larger budget.

676
00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:14.460
Yeah, I wonder about that too.

677
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.420
I think there's a small scale to series 11.

678
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:19.500
Definitely.

679
00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:24.359
Yeah. in the casting and we got some very cardboard episodes.

680
00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:32.880
It's very simple nonsets in some cases, but this is the magic flying coral poo. invading the East End credits.

681
00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:39.779
That's right We don't have the rights to that.

682
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.079
A giant blown up crap. 8 seconds.

683
00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:45.779
It is like a giant blown up crab, isn't it, James?

684
00:32:46.259 --> 00:32:48.599
Look at all these young people.

685
00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:51.000
What are you young people doing on my show?

686
00:32:51.420 --> 00:32:53.819
I won't be so young anymore.

687
00:32:54.900 --> 00:32:56.880
It looks great too.

688
00:32:56.940 --> 00:33:02.460
They do a great job of making all the spaceships look completely different for the whole RTD era.

689
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.640
There's a real care to make everything look really distinctive.

690
00:33:05.700 --> 00:33:10.380
It's almost as good as the axe on...

691
00:33:10.500 --> 00:33:11.460
Yeah.

692
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:12.539
I was going to say.

693
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.220
Yes, the albino...

694
00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:17.099
That weird slug ass thing.

695
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:17.940
Yeah, yeah, yes.

696
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.000
I always thought it would be paperfish.

697
00:33:21.059 --> 00:33:22.740
A paper fish.

698
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:23.400
Oh, yeah, yeah.

699
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.059
Finally, Rose decides to do something.

700
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.220
Yeah, hide, mind you.

701
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:32.759
Yeah, no.

702
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:34.980
She's still got time in the TARDIS.

703
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.339
She's still got time for some self-pity, though, in a crisis.

704
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:42.359
Oh, dear.

705
00:33:44.099 --> 00:33:46.440
Don't shout at Camille.

706
00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:53.220
With all the extra things inside him, I wonder if he's heavier than normal, gentlemen.

707
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.819
Maybe he's still got bits of Eccleston inside him.

708
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:57.599
Ew.

709
00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:05.519
I loved his little, he's got a compact eye pack.

710
00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:09.000
You know, because this is pre-Iphone, like 2 years, pretty iPhone.

711
00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:12.000
He's got a little handheld computer.

712
00:34:12.059 --> 00:34:14.639
Other handheld computers are also available.

713
00:34:14.699 --> 00:34:15.420
Yeah.

714
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:17.519
Not anymore.

715
00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:21.900
She's a Blake 7 fan.

716
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.840
That's how she knows it's called a teleport. should have been a trans man.

717
00:34:24.900 --> 00:34:26.760
That actually felt very enterprised, didn't it?

718
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.639
And again, we're in Wookiehole.

719
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:35.099
No, we're not really, but we are in a cave.

720
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.559
A little bit or Mary terms wardrobe.

721
00:34:37.619 --> 00:34:39.960
I think this was Wookiehole. think it is.

722
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:41.460
Really?

723
00:34:41.460 --> 00:34:42.900
Is that?

724
00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:44.340
I thought it was just a set.

725
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.500
They do all look a bit Lala Ward, don't they?

726
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:48.000
There's Lala now.

727
00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:50.760
She's really let herself go.

728
00:34:50.820 --> 00:35:01.920
It's so well designed as well because that the face looks like, you know, um, the, uh, medical diagrams of the, the muscles of the human body.

729
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:03.659
Yeah, the bodyworks show.

730
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:03.960
Yeah.

731
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:04.320
Yeah.

732
00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:06.360
Oh, God, Jackie, you're hilarious.

733
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:11.039
Normally Russell just says, pick an animal, stick its head on a person, call it a day.

734
00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:14.699
You know, job well done, but these look great.

735
00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:17.340
He really does, doesn't he?

736
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:18.119
He does.

737
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.159
Pig rhino thing.

738
00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:21.780
Yeah, cats.

739
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:22.440
That's it.

740
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.420
Fish rhino people. fish.

741
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:25.079
Yes, that's it.

742
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.159
Oh, and he's so brave.

743
00:35:29.219 --> 00:35:31.019
So brave and young.

744
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.079
It's not going to go well.

745
00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:36.239
See, that's a cave, Todd. not a set.

746
00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:37.139
Is it?

747
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:37.800
Yeah, yeah.

748
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:40.920
I think they've done something to maybe that's a set.

749
00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:45.599
I'm not quite sure, but certainly there's bits of this shot on location in a cave.

750
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.420
Oh, and his brown eyes.

751
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:48.900
Look at him.

752
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.280
It's not going to go well.

753
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.059
No.

754
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.659
Oh, blessed.

755
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:55.199
Bye-bye.

756
00:35:55.260 --> 00:35:59.699
Oh, mind you, I think in other situations, Danny had been right up for that.

757
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.139
Oh, dear.

758
00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:03.239
Ask Sally about that.

759
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:12.960
It's, it's also the thing about, oh, well, you can't just have alien shooting people with guns in New Doctor Who.

760
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:20.940
So there's always an interesting way of killing people, you know, so this one leaves a threat.

761
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.460
Yes. who you are.

762
00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:28.500
So good.

763
00:36:28.619 --> 00:36:29.340
That is so good.

764
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:34.800
But it's also the fact that, you know, people are don't, like there has now been some deaths.

765
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.260
Yeah, it makes the danger real. proper ones.

766
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:37.619
Yeah.

767
00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:39.119
Sorry, it was Clearwell Caves.

768
00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:40.739
Yeah, they are caves.

769
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:41.579
Yeah, that's cool.

770
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:45.059
I said to think it was the other one because the space is too big.

771
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:51.719
Like, you know, the, the, Yeah, I think that the, the floor, likewise, the floor so regular.

772
00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:58.139
Yeah, that's probably why I'm thinking it might have been a sense, but yeah, because it's a cave that's been made.

773
00:36:58.139 --> 00:36:58.559
Yeah, yeah.

774
00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:59.940
Tourist walk.

775
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:00.599
Well, yeah, yeah.

776
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.280
It's been made safe for tourist walking.

777
00:37:02.340 --> 00:37:06.480
Also, it's a it's a, you know, giant rock spaceship.

778
00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:09.539
Suspend your disbelief for God's sake.

779
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:10.079
Okay, sorry.

780
00:37:11.820 --> 00:37:15.840
Well, why is the dog, why is the Tartus now a circus tent?

781
00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:16.619
mollusc.

782
00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:20.639
Someone's turned the light to the seahorse.

783
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.860
Someone's turned the lights up.

784
00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:28.139
Well, think about how yellow it was. in the last scene that we were in here.

785
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.840
That's a lovely pretty shell pink.

786
00:37:30.900 --> 00:37:31.559
Yeah.

787
00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:32.400
Yeah.

788
00:37:32.460 --> 00:37:38.639
Do you think that's because it's like it's the brand new light of day?

789
00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:45.659
Like as in, you know, suddenly, 0 gosh, we're awake and we have to deal with the hangover.

790
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:46.440
Maybe.

791
00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:52.440
I get the impression that if we paid closer attention, we would learn that different directors directed it.

792
00:37:52.500 --> 00:37:55.079
I had it lit in different ways.

793
00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:55.800
Oh, it is.

794
00:37:55.860 --> 00:37:56.159
Yeah.

795
00:37:59.219 --> 00:38:01.079
And for specific reasons.

796
00:38:01.139 --> 00:38:06.960
I mean, Russell talks about that in, um, What's his book called?

797
00:38:07.019 --> 00:38:08.159
The Writer's Tale.

798
00:38:08.219 --> 00:38:08.880
I'm pretty sure.

799
00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:10.559
Available at all good bookshops.

800
00:38:10.619 --> 00:38:12.900
And that there was a specific reason for it.

801
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:22.559
You know, they list it with, with, um, David, they listed it very different way from, from Chris to try and make it.

802
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.079
Oh, good. buggering off again.

803
00:38:25.139 --> 00:38:29.280
Like in the same way they did with Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi.

804
00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:30.059
Yeah, yeah.

805
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.460
Well, they redesigned it for Capaldi, though.

806
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:33.000
Yeah.

807
00:38:33.059 --> 00:38:34.860
Put in more round things.

808
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:36.300
Love the round things.

809
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.460
It still looks like a giant ovapositor in space, that's not rose's mouth.

810
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:45.900
Mickey.

811
00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:46.860
The big mollusc.

812
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:51.840
Oh, it's not going to go well, do you?

813
00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:54.000
No, don't open the door, sweetie.

814
00:38:54.059 --> 00:38:55.199
No one look at the scanner.

815
00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:56.639
Oh.

816
00:38:57.179 --> 00:39:00.539
Oh, you see, they've got a telly instead of a scanner.

817
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:01.440
Back in the old days.

818
00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:02.579
This would never have happened.

819
00:39:03.659 --> 00:39:07.380
It does take her a while to notice that she's not on the estate, though.

820
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:13.500
I just love it's the fact that Chucky's tea and Mickey dropping the tea.

821
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.079
Just assist the doctor.

822
00:39:16.139 --> 00:39:21.960
Like it's just, it's a series of, um, you know, coincidences or whatever.

823
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.119
Also, it's not a sort of space thing.

824
00:39:24.179 --> 00:39:25.079
Do you know what I mean?

825
00:39:25.139 --> 00:39:33.840
Like he gives it a kind of slightly sciency explanation, but he also says a nice good cup of tea, you know, and that's nice and that's sort of humane, you know.

826
00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:39.300
Oh, and look at this.

827
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.159
Look at what she calls Rose.

828
00:39:41.219 --> 00:39:42.539
My precious.

829
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.280
We've really given the compressor a workout.

830
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:51.960
Sorry.

831
00:39:55.380 --> 00:39:58.619
Why is there just this blue thing under?

832
00:39:58.619 --> 00:40:00.119
It's a tea.

833
00:40:00.179 --> 00:40:01.260
It's to reheat the tea.

834
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.420
It's the t vaporiser.

835
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:04.139
Yeah, yeah.

836
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:06.599
Oh, doesn't he look young?

837
00:40:06.659 --> 00:40:07.739
It's too much with his hair.

838
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.019
How am I feeling about tenant?

839
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:11.639
Well, I've already seen him do gurney.

840
00:40:11.699 --> 00:40:14.460
No, it was refreshing anew and we loved him, didn't we?

841
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.079
him from the 1st moment.

842
00:40:16.139 --> 00:40:17.219
I think so.

843
00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:26.760
I remember thinking, you know, that Eccleston is the kind of doctor you do when you're not sure of what's going to happen, whether it's going to be good.

844
00:40:26.820 --> 00:40:31.260
And once you know that it's huge, you can have a much more traditional doctor.

845
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:39.840
You can go for, you know, someone slightly zanier and gobier and stuff and the audience is going to stay with you.

846
00:40:39.900 --> 00:40:42.840
And I think that that will eventually have a bad effect on series two.

847
00:40:42.900 --> 00:40:46.380
Yes, but at this moment, they were riding such a way.

848
00:40:46.500 --> 00:40:46.980
Yeah.

849
00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:55.019
And again, confidence is your best friend. certainly in the early days of walking on the stage that the audience will believe anything you do.

850
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:56.760
No, she's stepping up here.

851
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:02.940
I always find it quite cringy when she strings all these things together because it's all like, oh, no, no.

852
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.239
It's so embarrassing and she's trying her best to do it.

853
00:41:06.300 --> 00:41:14.280
She's doing a really crap job of, you know, the doctor's big speech at the end of, um, I know, it's a bit, don't fluff your lines.

854
00:41:15.179 --> 00:41:20.940
But she didn't say she did say shadow thing because I'm going to get all nerdy and go, oh, yes, they've got power.

855
00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:24.539
I always thought the Shadow Proclamation was a document.

856
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.519
Yeah, well it should be, shouldn't it?

857
00:41:26.579 --> 00:41:30.719
Yeah, but eventually it's those weirdo women who...

858
00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:31.320
Yeah, yeah.

859
00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:33.179
Who meet Donna in the stolen earth.

860
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:34.440
Yeah, Okdravans.

861
00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:35.099
Yeah.

862
00:41:35.340 --> 00:41:38.099
Drive instead of really let themselves go.

863
00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:39.960
Why haven't we got driving spec?

864
00:41:40.019 --> 00:41:41.579
Moffatt mentions them.

865
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:42.900
We're doing them now.

866
00:41:43.500 --> 00:41:46.679
We've heard rumours, dear audience.

867
00:41:46.739 --> 00:41:49.260
You might have seen the New Year's special by the time this comes out.

868
00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:50.639
No, you won't have.

869
00:41:50.699 --> 00:41:55.199
My money's on it being Dardex for the new year.

870
00:41:55.260 --> 00:41:56.820
Yeah, Bantral, so I'm going for.

871
00:41:56.940 --> 00:42:03.179
Yeah, I just think if we're saying that Beeb has not been entirely delighted, although I don't see why they're not delighted by the viewing figures.

872
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.780
What was what was Brendan's latest suggestion on day eight?

873
00:42:06.780 --> 00:42:08.219
Oscar Botchobee.

874
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:09.840
Oh.

875
00:42:10.139 --> 00:42:13.019
You should really check that out on the YouTubes.

876
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:14.880
Tubes of you.

877
00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:15.840
Is he doing it on YouTube?

878
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:17.159
Yes, he is.

879
00:42:17.219 --> 00:42:17.940
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

880
00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:20.099
And now he's speaking English.

881
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.559
And you see, I feel like a 90s kink party.

882
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.659
And as she's working out and you're working at out, you kind of realise, 0 my goodness.

883
00:42:28.139 --> 00:42:29.519
Yeah.

884
00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:37.800
And again, you know, like in case there, people at home who are slower on the uptake than other people, it still gets explained.

885
00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:39.059
It's fantastic.

886
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.599
And now this shot with the music that's building.

887
00:42:42.659 --> 00:42:44.219
Yeah, yeah.

888
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.199
No, where they all turn around, don't they?

889
00:42:46.260 --> 00:42:47.639
And then the camera moves, here it comes.

890
00:42:47.699 --> 00:42:48.659
Yeah, they can.

891
00:42:48.659 --> 00:42:49.440
She turns around.

892
00:42:49.500 --> 00:42:51.179
Camera closes in.

893
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:52.920
They get out of the way.

894
00:42:52.980 --> 00:42:53.760
Ta-da.

895
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:58.019
The problem with those Wincy pyjamas is there's no fly.

896
00:42:58.380 --> 00:43:00.539
It's just a bit of string.

897
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.519
Well, that's safe, isn't it?

898
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.820
And he's been watching Buffy while he's been in the Tartars.

899
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:06.480
Did you miss me?

900
00:43:06.539 --> 00:43:08.579
Yes, very buffy.

901
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.519
Where are we doing the Buffy podcast?

902
00:43:11.579 --> 00:43:12.539
We are doing it now.

903
00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:16.800
Oh, I've never noticed all that bakle light on the back wall as well.

904
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:18.900
So it's a theme.

905
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:26.280
Oh, it is, this is your life.

906
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.039
He's so happy as well.

907
00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:33.599
Yeah, he sells happy so much better than Eccleston.

908
00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:37.500
Well, I think he's been happy in his own personal life, you see.

909
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:46.500
But I also think that the people here on set are happy now after last year's kind of cluster, you know, dumpster fire.

910
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:47.400
Ginger?

911
00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:48.840
Yeah, you're not the fire.

912
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.079
Dobster.

913
00:43:52.139 --> 00:43:52.920
We're not going there.

914
00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:53.340
No.

915
00:43:59.579 --> 00:44:06.480
And of course, he had been in Casanova with Russell T. Davis, which is why he gets the job.

916
00:44:06.539 --> 00:44:11.880
It's his audition piece for this in the way that the 2nd coming is for Eccleston.

917
00:44:11.940 --> 00:44:18.239
And the reason that he's sexy in Casanova is the way he speaks.

918
00:44:18.300 --> 00:44:21.900
Like he's he's just so confident and so goppy.

919
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:26.760
Um, you know, and so in his 1st proper scene, that's all he does.

920
00:44:26.820 --> 00:44:28.079
He just doesn't stop talking.

921
00:44:28.139 --> 00:44:30.000
And he is super charming.

922
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.099
Where did they get all their kit from?

923
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:42.719
Does Eric Roberts advise them?

924
00:44:43.139 --> 00:44:45.659
On wardrobe and symptoms.

925
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:46.139
Yeah.

926
00:44:46.139 --> 00:44:49.860
Oh, bless.

927
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:50.880
What was that?

928
00:44:53.940 --> 00:44:55.500
I don't know, is he?

929
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.239
I don't think the audience has decided yet.

930
00:44:57.780 --> 00:45:04.019
I do like the way Russell gives us real-time audience participation sussing out this.

931
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.420
It really is perfectly written as an introduction piece.

932
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.599
And introducing the idea that the doctor can change as well.

933
00:45:09.659 --> 00:45:11.159
Because, of course, you're right.

934
00:45:11.219 --> 00:45:12.659
There are people watching this if not.

935
00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:13.619
No.

936
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.119
They've never been through this.

937
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:20.880
They know, they knew that Christopher Eckleston was the ninth. doctor, but they never experienced what it's like.

938
00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:30.000
Do you know my greatest disappointment for this episode so far is that this whole scene was used as the direct inspiration for Jody's Tartar set?

939
00:45:31.019 --> 00:45:34.800
You're a very observant man, Richard. true.

940
00:45:34.860 --> 00:45:38.280
And it's, you know, probably something they might have wanted to reconsider.

941
00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:40.019
Tasting blood, tasting dirt.

942
00:45:40.139 --> 00:45:40.559
What's next?

943
00:45:40.619 --> 00:45:41.519
Yeah, yeah.

944
00:45:41.579 --> 00:45:43.500
Matt Smith does it as well.

945
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.239
They're constantly licking and eating things.

946
00:45:45.300 --> 00:45:48.179
Oh, he's been up for that for years, that mucky pop.

947
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.880
I love this because I never saw it coming.

948
00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:55.980
The big red button.

949
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.519
Like, you know, having to, like, pushing the button.

950
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.400
Yeah, it really is just a threat, you know?

951
00:46:02.460 --> 00:46:03.179
Yeah.

952
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:09.000
Yeah And again, it's because he knows what's going on.

953
00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:10.440
Like, yeah.

954
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:11.099
Yeah.

955
00:46:11.340 --> 00:46:20.340
So he can come back and he Rose tries to talk her way out of it, but fails, but he comes in and just immediately kills it.

956
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:20.940
Yeah, yeah.

957
00:46:21.059 --> 00:46:22.920
He's a doctor.

958
00:46:23.219 --> 00:46:29.880
Yeah, he's not yet the doctor, like in traits and that sort of thing, but he is the doctor doing what he's doing.

959
00:46:29.940 --> 00:46:30.719
Yeah, yeah.

960
00:46:30.780 --> 00:46:31.199
Yeah.

961
00:46:31.260 --> 00:46:33.360
Well, we're still learning like what the doctors like.

962
00:46:33.420 --> 00:46:42.239
But I think, you know, there are times later on where I will confess to saying that I find Tenant Shtick a bit tiresome sometimes.

963
00:46:42.300 --> 00:46:46.559
I think his performance gets more and more mannered the longer he goes on.

964
00:46:46.619 --> 00:46:47.820
He got bored.

965
00:46:47.940 --> 00:46:48.659
Maybe.

966
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:49.199
Yeah.

967
00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:51.960
Although no true fan would ever get bored playing the doctor.

968
00:46:52.019 --> 00:46:55.380
Well, yeah, but it's still an acting job, I think, you know.

969
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.599
And he, you play it as another doctor.

970
00:46:57.659 --> 00:47:01.980
Yeah I think I think that he does, he does so well here.

971
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:03.599
Oh my god.

972
00:47:03.659 --> 00:47:09.420
This is the 1st pop culture reference that the doctor has done since 1970.

973
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:10.440
Really?

974
00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:11.280
Don't you think?

975
00:47:11.340 --> 00:47:12.780
This is it's a big call.

976
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:14.400
I could be wrong.

977
00:47:14.460 --> 00:47:15.300
It's hilarious.

978
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.519
Because Pertry says, what did you expect a flying saucer with Batman at the controls?

979
00:47:20.579 --> 00:47:28.500
He does say that, but then but then Davison also channels Delia Smith with those with a well-cooked meal.

980
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:29.639
That's right.

981
00:47:29.699 --> 00:47:33.179
But it is the 1st time the doctor refers to pop culture at all.

982
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:34.860
Uh, doesn't Billy?

983
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.500
No, but there are moments of it, aren't there?

984
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:38.519
But it's interface.

985
00:47:38.579 --> 00:47:40.139
Yeah, but no TV movies.

986
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:41.460
None of the stuff that we're watching.

987
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:45.480
You know, this is a new thing for the doctor to do. sustained all knowledge of this.

988
00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:47.460
He'll do Shakespeare.

989
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.320
He's going to do it again in about 5 minutes. is true.

990
00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:53.159
Although Arthur Dent is real in this universe, isn't he?

991
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.179
Yeah, yeah.

992
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.219
Why is Earth still here, though?

993
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:57.539
Point.

994
00:47:58.619 --> 00:48:00.900
It's a multiverse.

995
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.840
Earth still exists in...

996
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:08.519
No, not at the end of, don't they collapse all of the earth and destroy them at the end of one of the books?

997
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:10.199
It's great.

998
00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:11.219
We have a sword fight here.

999
00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:15.539
A la Pertwee or Tom.

1000
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.480
Yeah, Tom does that great one, which they forget to put any music over.

1001
00:48:18.539 --> 00:48:21.000
That's right, in Androids of Tara.

1002
00:48:21.059 --> 00:48:21.719
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1003
00:48:21.780 --> 00:48:22.199
Yeah.

1004
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.099
But again, it's swashbuckling hero stuff.

1005
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:27.539
It's wonderful Ooh.

1006
00:48:30.659 --> 00:48:31.619
He is rude.

1007
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:33.300
His best is PJ's.

1008
00:48:34.139 --> 00:48:36.539
Thank God they've got them sewn up.

1009
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.460
That's what we think.

1010
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:41.400
The equal eyed viewer, however.

1011
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.380
This is great too.

1012
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.219
There's one incredibly great shot in this in this fight.

1013
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:57.119
That one where they're really tiny in the frame and there's nothing but the sky behind them and they're moving along the shot.

1014
00:48:57.179 --> 00:48:58.139
I think it's so good.

1015
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:02.460
All this can direct, although the shots are a little tight, but yeah.

1016
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.579
No, I think whores is a really, really good director.

1017
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.820
We had him last year with the empty child, I think.

1018
00:49:12.539 --> 00:49:15.239
Oh, and a bit of slow-mo there.

1019
00:49:15.300 --> 00:49:17.940
Yeah. is underrunning.

1020
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:19.440
That's it.

1021
00:49:19.500 --> 00:49:21.599
By a second.

1022
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.880
Oh, I expect that to happen.

1023
00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:28.440
And it's never going to come back into play.

1024
00:49:28.500 --> 00:49:28.980
No.

1025
00:49:28.980 --> 00:49:29.519
Look at that.

1026
00:49:29.579 --> 00:49:30.659
No, they don't, do they?

1027
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:35.639
And my skin tone's been affected by it.

1028
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:36.900
I've gone off CGZ.

1029
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.400
This is very messianic.

1030
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.119
For someone who's so adamant.

1031
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.639
See, there he's talking and there's people behind him.

1032
00:49:47.699 --> 00:49:48.960
Right?

1033
00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:53.280
And then he's got no one behind him. there's a shock problem between that.

1034
00:49:53.340 --> 00:49:54.960
It's looking slightly up.

1035
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:56.639
I don't know.

1036
00:49:56.699 --> 00:49:57.719
I don't think that's right.

1037
00:49:57.780 --> 00:49:58.860
That's right.

1038
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.420
I love that.

1039
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.099
Catch the right end.

1040
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:08.579
Good.

1041
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:11.460
Oh, no, I've lost another hand.

1042
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.320
Let's regrow another one.

1043
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:18.659
Sylvester caught the right end of the red hot poker in the candy kitchen.

1044
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:20.519
You're right.

1045
00:50:20.579 --> 00:50:22.860
This is a lovely little homage to silver as well.

1046
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:25.920
I can see silver doing all of this.

1047
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:27.059
But he's not doing the accent.

1048
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:28.139
No.

1049
00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:28.920
No, really?

1050
00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:29.340
he's not.

1051
00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:31.559
Which, in those days, you didn't have to.

1052
00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:34.619
Although, what did Russell say?

1053
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.920
You didn't want them ricocheting all the way up and down the M4?

1054
00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:38.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1055
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.239
Oh, they weren't going to do a tour of the regions with the various doctors.

1056
00:50:42.300 --> 00:50:44.340
I didn't know that it was Russell's idea.

1057
00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:47.699
As great as this is in the in a moment.

1058
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:54.539
I don't quite understand why they have this magic button that just happens to open up the edge of the spaceship to...

1059
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:55.260
It was just one of that.

1060
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:56.280
It was one of the hatches.

1061
00:50:56.340 --> 00:51:00.539
No, if you look at it, it's just on the on the edge near the near the airlock.

1062
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.059
So again, just like that one, it's just an airlock knob.

1063
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.559
I can forgive a knob.

1064
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.659
But you know, he makes stuff up, though.

1065
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:10.679
He's a fan boy.

1066
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:17.159
I think I've mentioned before his commentary with Moffat and Davies on...

1067
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:18.360
Is it Forrester of the Dead?

1068
00:51:18.420 --> 00:51:19.320
No, it's the 1st one.

1069
00:51:19.380 --> 00:51:20.880
So is a set Zuma?

1070
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.019
It's a Mandarin.

1071
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:23.039
Mandarin, okay.

1072
00:51:23.099 --> 00:51:27.300
And they mock Russell relentlessly.

1073
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.179
That's awesome.

1074
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.179
And there is... a little bit of Venio Morricone there too.

1075
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:43.139
So the no 2nd chances thing is foreshadowing what he's going to do to Harriet. isn't it?

1076
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:44.579
Yeah, you know.

1077
00:51:44.699 --> 00:51:48.599
And then spend the next 4 years giving everybody 2nd chances.

1078
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:54.420
Yeah, well, sometimes he gives people 1st chances, but then he's quite happy for them to...

1079
00:51:54.599 --> 00:52:10.860
And, you know, like again, we've mentioned series 11 a couple of times and clearly series 11 is a reaction against this kind of, you know, arrogant judgemental version of the doctor. which, you know, persists, I think.

1080
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.360
It did keep going back to that well.

1081
00:52:15.539 --> 00:52:17.460
Yeah, yeah.

1082
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.699
Oh, look.

1083
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:29.820
I do want to know, though, why they bugger off and not just whack them dead, whack them all them dead, because really they're beastly aliens.

1084
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.820
Oh, but there is, they do talk about honour and stuff.

1085
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:33.539
Yeah, yeah.

1086
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:34.860
They're just Klingons.

1087
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:35.940
They're actually better than us.

1088
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:40.679
Well, yes, Achilles. straight after saying, I agree not to...

1089
00:52:40.739 --> 00:52:41.340
Yes, that's true.

1090
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:43.860
Adam gets a hug.

1091
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:44.880
Good point.

1092
00:52:45.900 --> 00:52:47.760
Oh, teeth.

1093
00:52:47.820 --> 00:52:50.340
Pearls, teeth, teeth, pearls.

1094
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:51.659
Oh, bless.

1095
00:52:51.659 --> 00:52:52.139
Plunk.

1096
00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:58.139
Uh...

1097
00:52:58.139 --> 00:52:59.039
Oh, enjoy the moment.

1098
00:52:59.099 --> 00:52:59.880
It's not going to last.

1099
00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:01.980
No, it's really, really not going to last.

1100
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.820
And is he goading her into doing it?

1101
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:12.480
This is the same speech that we get at the beginning of Spearhead from Space?

1102
00:53:12.539 --> 00:53:13.619
It really is.

1103
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:14.400
Yeah.

1104
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:14.760
Yeah.

1105
00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:17.400
But like, why is he doing that?

1106
00:53:17.460 --> 00:53:18.480
What's it?

1107
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.039
Because that's another reason.

1108
00:53:20.099 --> 00:53:21.539
It is a trigger.

1109
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:22.980
Yeah, it is a true guy.

1110
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:23.940
And she responds to it.

1111
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.599
She says, you know, like, she says, look at her react.

1112
00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:29.280
But then look at him looking at her.

1113
00:53:29.340 --> 00:53:31.739
Like how are you going to react to this?

1114
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:33.420
He is trialling her.

1115
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:34.559
He's testing her.

1116
00:53:34.619 --> 00:53:36.659
It's a Caucasian chalk, you do it.

1117
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:38.760
Will you do it?

1118
00:53:38.820 --> 00:53:40.019
is basically what he's saying.

1119
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.980
And she lets him down, which is why he destroys her.

1120
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.639
Oh, Camille.

1121
00:53:50.699 --> 00:53:53.039
Doesn't he look like his action figure?

1122
00:53:55.980 --> 00:53:57.960
Oh, look.

1123
00:53:58.019 --> 00:54:00.059
And they all hug.

1124
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:01.559
Look, it's so beautiful.

1125
00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:02.699
Noel gets a hug.

1126
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:05.280
It's the changing then relationship from that point.

1127
00:54:05.340 --> 00:54:07.260
But have a look at this too.

1128
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:26.340
Like before she makes the decision, she looks over at them and sees what she's excluding herself from, she knows that in order to protect that, she has to make this decision, but she knows that that means she's excluded from it as well.

1129
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:28.500
Like she's making...

1130
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:32.039
And also, he's done that in the past, the hypocrite.

1131
00:54:32.099 --> 00:54:32.820
Yeah, yeah.

1132
00:54:32.820 --> 00:54:35.340
She's so upset there.

1133
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:36.059
Yeah.

1134
00:54:36.059 --> 00:54:38.280
Zigons. magic word.

1135
00:54:38.340 --> 00:54:39.659
Look what you did to them, doctor.

1136
00:54:39.780 --> 00:54:41.880
Very happy to do so too.

1137
00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:45.420
It's the Death Star.

1138
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:52.260
Although I was shocked as a little boy, I have to say, because, you know, being a 1000000 years old, that does actually look quite sexy on the Blu-ray.

1139
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:53.280
The planet killer?

1140
00:54:53.340 --> 00:54:54.239
Yes, that's the one.

1141
00:54:54.300 --> 00:54:55.019
But to.

1142
00:54:56.579 --> 00:54:59.159
And bodies, look, there are bodies.

1143
00:54:59.219 --> 00:54:59.699
Bodies?

1144
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:01.139
No, they're rock something?

1145
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.900
They did actually CG some bodies floating away.

1146
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:04.860
Yeah, yeah.

1147
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:10.320
Yeah.

1148
00:55:10.380 --> 00:55:11.400
Now.

1149
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.400
Wow.

1150
00:55:14.460 --> 00:55:18.960
And the great thing about it is too, that neither one of them's obviously right or wrong, I think.

1151
00:55:19.019 --> 00:55:32.159
I mean, the problem is too, that she starts off being better than Tony Blair, you know, Russell kills Tony Blair for his support for the invasion of Iraq, um, and replaces him with her.

1152
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.559
And now she's Margaret Thatcher.

1153
00:55:34.619 --> 00:55:41.280
You know, bombing aircraft carriers as they retreat in the Falklands War.

1154
00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:45.539
She doesn't she's exactly the right person to be in this job because she doesn't want to be doing it.

1155
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:46.500
Yeah.

1156
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:50.400
And how easy for him, O war doctor of the future?

1157
00:55:50.460 --> 00:55:52.739
That's right, to say this now.

1158
00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:55.380
People in glass houses.

1159
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:56.099
Yes.

1160
00:55:56.099 --> 00:55:58.440
Glass turtles, so, so, so.

1161
00:55:58.559 --> 00:55:59.460
Another.

1162
00:55:59.460 --> 00:56:00.719
Oh, but then she got all.

1163
00:56:00.780 --> 00:56:04.139
No, actually, I think it's when she makes it personal.

1164
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.800
Yeah, but and then he gets all hissy and turny.

1165
00:56:07.860 --> 00:56:10.260
But if he has a bitchy little face, hasn't he?

1166
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:11.159
This is the bitchy doctor.

1167
00:56:11.219 --> 00:56:12.960
But look at the scene here.

1168
00:56:13.019 --> 00:56:17.579
Like if you look how it's acted and you didn't know what they were saying, who would the villain be?

1169
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:19.860
You know, it's clearly tenant.

1170
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.199
Like she's so sad. otherwise.

1171
00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:26.460
But yeah, no, it's 10 at 10 is the one that's being aggressive and dominating.

1172
00:56:26.460 --> 00:56:28.199
His whole body language is hawk.

1173
00:56:28.260 --> 00:56:30.360
She's a good person that's made a poor decision.

1174
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.340
Maybe she's made a poor decision.

1175
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:33.179
Maybe, yeah.

1176
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.420
By the standards of this alien.

1177
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:40.619
Okay, I want to know which looks like Pat, who he tells?

1178
00:56:40.739 --> 00:56:42.239
Yeah, that's it.

1179
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.880
Then he gets on Facebook and tells all of his friends.

1180
00:56:44.940 --> 00:56:46.920
Don't you think Harriet looks tired?

1181
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:48.719
Like, how does that get out?

1182
00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:55.619
Or it's actually just her response to not knowing that creates the entire situation.

1183
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:59.400
She gets so stressed by it that she starts behaving around.

1184
00:56:59.460 --> 00:57:00.059
Oh, maybe.

1185
00:57:00.179 --> 00:57:01.679
So he never says anything.

1186
00:57:01.739 --> 00:57:03.840
Yeah I like that. keep that.

1187
00:57:03.900 --> 00:57:04.619
Just the whisper.

1188
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:05.219
Yeah.

1189
00:57:05.340 --> 00:57:07.019
Yeah, yeah.

1190
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.840
And I also like, too, I can bring it down with one word.

1191
00:57:09.900 --> 00:57:13.679
I don't believe you, but once he says 6 words and actually becomes believable.

1192
00:57:13.860 --> 00:57:15.960
And there she's just left.

1193
00:57:16.019 --> 00:57:17.460
See, he's walking off.

1194
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.199
Texting his mates.

1195
00:57:19.260 --> 00:57:20.039
Wardrobe.

1196
00:57:20.099 --> 00:57:21.780
Mary James wardrobe.

1197
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.719
In the novelisation, she sort of stumbled.

1198
00:57:24.780 --> 00:57:27.300
She stumbles after him screaming, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1199
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:27.840
Yeah.

1200
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:28.199
Yeah.

1201
00:57:28.260 --> 00:57:30.420
What's he going to do with that blue frock?

1202
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:31.860
He's got a lot of frock, hasn't he?

1203
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:32.460
Well, we know now.

1204
00:57:32.579 --> 00:57:33.179
Yeah, yeah.

1205
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:33.659
Yeah.

1206
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.480
Oh, it wouldn't have been lovely if he'd done a big Casanova?

1207
00:57:36.539 --> 00:57:36.900
No.

1208
00:57:36.900 --> 00:57:37.860
The Beatles.

1209
00:57:38.099 --> 00:57:42.059
Hugo's outfit from a twin dilemma.

1210
00:57:42.539 --> 00:57:44.519
Carving a turkey.

1211
00:57:44.579 --> 00:57:46.679
I love this so much.

1212
00:57:46.739 --> 00:57:51.539
I want you to interrupt everyone. absolutely fantastic.

1213
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:52.679
I do love song for 10.

1214
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:54.539
Yeah, yeah.

1215
00:57:54.539 --> 00:57:57.059
And he's doing, yeah, she got to have a Tom Scarf.

1216
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.400
Why don't we ever have songs anymore?

1217
00:57:59.460 --> 00:58:01.260
I loved it when Russell did it.

1218
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:05.820
We had like maybe 2 in the Moffatt era and they were such sort of middle-aged white guys.

1219
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:07.380
Of those awful ties.

1220
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.059
Who has he ever worn a tie like?

1221
00:58:09.659 --> 00:58:11.579
Or covers.

1222
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.820
It's a good outfit.

1223
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:15.420
I think so too.

1224
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:15.960
Yeah.

1225
00:58:16.019 --> 00:58:16.739
Yeah.

1226
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.079
It's very designed, but I'm so young.

1227
00:58:19.139 --> 00:58:22.440
Yeah, it is ridiculously young, isn't it?

1228
00:58:22.500 --> 00:58:23.039
All that hair.

1229
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.980
He's only in his early 30s in this, isn't he?

1230
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.940
34?

1231
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.519
Yeah, something...

1232
00:58:29.579 --> 00:58:30.900
I think your room's 34.

1233
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:32.219
That's beautiful too, isn't it?

1234
00:58:32.340 --> 00:58:33.420
We didn't see enough of that.

1235
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:34.619
Oh, wow.

1236
00:58:34.619 --> 00:58:36.239
It's a console room with the green screen in the middle.

1237
00:58:36.300 --> 00:58:38.400
It's great to see another room.

1238
00:58:38.460 --> 00:58:39.000
Yep.

1239
00:58:39.059 --> 00:58:40.260
Oh, here she is.

1240
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:41.940
Oh, she's all recovered now.

1241
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:46.860
And she's just fancying him. that's right That's not going to end well is it?

1242
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:55.920
And of course, this pays off. at the end of World War 3 where she invites him to dinner with her family and he says, I don't do that.

1243
00:58:55.980 --> 00:59:00.900
And so there's, you know, this doctor isn't just a new actor.

1244
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.300
It's a character, like there's a character change.

1245
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.940
He's been he's been healed.

1246
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.219
Where are the stories coming from?

1247
00:59:08.579 --> 00:59:11.820
They also, um, the whole glasses thing.

1248
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:17.639
Um, they, in the book, it's because he's actually got bad eyesight.

1249
00:59:17.699 --> 00:59:21.719
Like they, um, who, was it Jenny Colgan?

1250
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:28.440
Yeah, she's like, he, he, he looked, he looked at the screen and it was a bit fuzzy.

1251
00:59:28.500 --> 00:59:29.699
That's odd.

1252
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:33.840
This is so beautiful in the snow and then...

1253
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:34.739
In the gnome.

1254
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:36.780
It's all burning.

1255
00:59:36.780 --> 00:59:38.340
The background there.

1256
00:59:39.539 --> 00:59:42.659
That's such a gloriously English thing, isn't it?

1257
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:43.619
The bad Christmas jumper.

1258
00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:45.840
I didn't know about those things.

1259
00:59:45.900 --> 00:59:49.320
Till last couple of years when everybody seems to have them.

1260
00:59:49.380 --> 00:59:51.900
Very Bridget Jones diary.

1261
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.760
And they're mostly Doctor Who ones now.

1262
00:59:53.820 --> 00:59:54.360
Yeah.

1263
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.119
It is a great little outfit.

1264
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:02.519
At the time, I thought, meh, but no, certainly seeing what we've had since, I like it.

1265
01:00:02.579 --> 01:00:04.619
And he looks great in it too.

1266
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:11.940
Like even without the big coat, because he's so skinny, like it just looks like a...

1267
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:13.019
Yeah, scruffy mod.

1268
01:00:13.139 --> 01:00:14.099
Yeah.

1269
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:19.980
And again, you know, Russell always talks about having a distinct silhouette for the doctor.

1270
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:23.159
You know, you should be able to know it's the doctor even, you know, in long shot.

1271
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.199
Or in the dark.

1272
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:25.800
Or in the dark.

1273
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.860
I love Noel and Camille in the background.

1274
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.719
Talk, just watching him have that conversation about her going with him.

1275
01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:37.440
Yeah.

1276
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:45.300
It's hard too, because Noel would have loved to have had continuing work on the series.

1277
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:45.960
You just know it.

1278
01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:48.900
Here I am sucking it up.

1279
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.659
Other offers I'm available for other offers.

1280
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.059
He's also such a bloody good actor.

1281
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:54.719
Yeah.

1282
01:00:54.780 --> 01:01:02.400
Oh, well, he's done tremendously well and absolutely deserves to have. his own lick back sticker set.

1283
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:07.139
Fans can adhere.

1284
01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:10.079
I love that detail as well Creepy hands.

1285
01:01:10.139 --> 01:01:12.179
He has got creepy child hands.

1286
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:13.800
He does.

1287
01:01:13.860 --> 01:01:15.480
Creepy, wrinkly child hands.

1288
01:01:16.739 --> 01:01:18.239
Teeth.

1289
01:01:19.860 --> 01:01:26.699
It's very Russell too, to have the beautiful meteors and the snowfall be, you know, burning up dead bodies.

1290
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:33.119
Like he's, he's sort of cynical and horrible deep down on some level.

1291
01:01:33.179 --> 01:01:34.380
Oh, yeah.

1292
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:34.739
Yeah.

1293
01:01:34.739 --> 01:01:35.280
Yeah.

1294
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:39.539
That way, let's get that way, let's smile at each other.

1295
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:40.920
Yes, hold hands.

1296
01:01:40.980 --> 01:01:42.059
Crane shot.

1297
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:48.179
Yeah, this is going to turn out well. one crane shot in this episode, we can't afford to remount.

1298
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.500
Imagine that.

1299
01:01:52.500 --> 01:01:56.039
We're going to have a lot of fun this season, imagining what...

1300
01:01:56.039 --> 01:02:01.139
Sarah, imagining what it would have been like if we'd had Eccles for all of these.

1301
01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:03.659
Quite exciting.

1302
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.960
And some of them are quite late, didn't they?

1303
01:02:07.019 --> 01:02:10.079
Well, that was from like episode 11 or something.

1304
01:02:10.139 --> 01:02:19.920
I don't think Eccles would have sold the joy of working with Elizabeth Sladen. in the same way that because he wasn't a fan in the way that DOVID was.

1305
01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:20.519
That's true.

1306
01:02:20.579 --> 01:02:25.500
Whereas, I'm in tears for half that episode because it's your childhood coming back.

1307
01:02:26.219 --> 01:02:29.400
Oh, that was gripping. awesome.

1308
01:02:29.460 --> 01:02:30.900
It was wonderful.

1309
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:31.559
Yeah.

1310
01:02:31.980 --> 01:02:34.860
Really great introduction to...

1311
01:02:34.860 --> 01:02:36.059
I don't remember that being so good.

1312
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:37.199
Yeah.

1313
01:02:37.260 --> 01:02:38.699
Yeah, it's rusty.

1314
01:02:38.699 --> 01:02:51.659
I remember at the time going, I want more of the doctor in this than feeling a bit cheated, but I honestly feel now and have felt over the years just the whole buildup and the little titbits and it's just what was required.

1315
01:02:51.719 --> 01:03:00.840
Yeah, and if you do it, you can't just do it for, you know, you have to really go the whole hog and have him absent for like 40 minutes or whatever.

1316
01:03:00.900 --> 01:03:02.579
You have to do it properly.

1317
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.420
So they give us enough of a taste at the beginning.

1318
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:10.559
So we get, you know, because we are watching to see what the new doctor's going to be like.

1319
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:16.500
So we did get that, but then keeping him off screen, I think, for the most of us, the right decision.

1320
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:20.099
I think we're gonna wind up.

1321
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:28.920
The 1st of many brilliantly excellent Christmas specials, so I hope you're far less sober than we are.

1322
01:03:30.420 --> 01:03:33.780
Well, dear listener, that's all we have time for this week.

1323
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:37.619
We'll be back next year with our coverage of series two, starting with new Earth.

1324
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.659
If you want to hear our searing hot take on the New Year's Day episode of Doctor Who.

1325
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:47.159
We plan to record and release a new episode of Jody into Terror very soon after it airs.

1326
01:03:47.219 --> 01:03:53.099
So that's Jody Interterra.com, Jody Interterra on Apple Podcasts and at Jody Interterra on Twitter.

1327
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:55.920
And don't forget, over on Bondfinger.

1328
01:03:55.980 --> 01:03:59.039
You can find commentaries on every film in the James Bond franchise.

1329
01:03:59.099 --> 01:04:00.360
That's bondfinger.com.

1330
01:04:00.420 --> 01:04:09.420
Bondfinger on Facebook and Apple Podcast and at Bondfingercast on Twitter, and we're hoping to bring you thrilling new Bondfinger content sometime over the next few weeks.

1331
01:04:09.539 --> 01:04:16.860
Until next time, may you and your loved ones have a very Merry Christmas and a delightful and prosperous New Year.

1332
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:18.599
We'll see you in 2019.

1333
01:04:18.900 --> 01:04:21.059
Thank you very much for listening and good night.

1334
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:22.320
See you soon.

1335
01:04:22.380 --> 01:04:22.980
Good night.

1336
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:24.000
Stay warm.