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Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to Flight for Entirety, the

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only Doctor Who commentary podcast that doesn't need Jackie Tyler

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to shut up.

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That was just rude.

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I'm Nathan.

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I'm Todd.

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I'm James And I'm a miscellany of barking dogs for this episode

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you'll find out.

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They're actually not being picked up by the mics, I think.

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Okay, well, we're going to be back in 2019 with a whole new series

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of flight through entirety, but it's a very special Christmas

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present this year.

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We're about to watch the Christmas invasion.

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So we are on the Blu-ray.

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I have a very, very terrible old Blu-ray player, which will

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probably take about 5 seconds to get going when I press the button

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but you can see the beautiful CG rendered Eccleston era Tardis

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console in front of you, I think.

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Didn't know his randomiser doubled as a bingo.

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Can you believe how old this looks?

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Just from the James.

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It looks fabulous.

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It did.

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It came out.

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So excited.

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Yeah, no, it does.

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It does look a bit tired.

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The very the new Blu-ray boxets look lovely.

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We do.

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So we're on the episode selection thing and the Christmas invasion

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is ready to go, so we want you to press play on your own Blu-ray

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player.

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When I next, say the code word gherkin.

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So, uh, as soon as they say that word, I want you to, you don't

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know why we...

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Listeners, I worked it out.

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Yeah, it's not something that David Tennant has 2 of, right?

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It's something else.

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It is.

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All right, are we ready?

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Gherkin.

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Okay.

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And so it's the very 1st shot of Rose.

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In Spearhead from Space. lovely to see her again.

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Oh, dear.

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I like the ozone layer there.

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Yeah, when we had one.

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Gosh, it seems like a long time ago, doesn't it?

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We didn't have one even then, honey.

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Jackie's bauble.

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And her big white bush there.

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Hey.

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Sorry.

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And here we go.

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I love this scene because it's, you know, like it's not super

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subtle, but it is sort of TV subtle in the sense that we've got

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you know, we don't have to have explained to us how Jackie's

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feeling right now because she's an actor.

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Exactly.

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I'm like, this...

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Oh, look.

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There's a lovely tea cosy and some, well, how did you describe

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them?

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They have BBC light entertainment mechanics.

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That one was quite good, actually.

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What I like is they hear the TARDIS are going, but they neither of

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them says the TARDIS, like both of them just say rose.

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But that's because BBC mechanics don't have speaking parts.

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But they but they know how to hammer in full...

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You know, full Gary Downey on it.

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They felt more like backing dances for bananarama than proper

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hammerers, but now we're back on, gee, someone needs to do

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something about that.

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This is so fantastic.

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I mean, it's a classic series fan.

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I never thought that the TARDIS would ever do this and it just

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took me by surprise.

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Real?

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Oh, real?

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fake.

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I used to do this with my Lego TARDIS after the threat of Sutek.

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Do you remember?

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Did you used to play that?

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It was the 1st time I ever saw it spinning.

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Oh, look, and it's David Tennant doing his John Sims auditioned

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for life on Mars.

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Will he get the part?

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No.

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I like all these people in the background.

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I never really seen them before.

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They're just standing around.

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Is that wee Jimmy Cranky?

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There isn't?

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No, it's David Tim.

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I know what you mean.

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No, I never noticed there are actual autons in the background.

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Oh, look, you know, BBC extras, you're not paid, love.

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I think it's Dawn and Jennifer back then.

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It really is.

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John Sims does exactly that in the 1st episode of Life on Mars and

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he's wearing the same little outfit.

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Hello?

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I am a Salurian, and I'm going for my tea.

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Yeah, that was the launch.

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In a doctor.

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Doctor Who?

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God, I miss her so much.

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Yeah, she's a natural actor.

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Whereas tenant is actually the opposite.

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He's more like pert.

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Now I've been watching Pertwee again in that.

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Well, pertly said he didn't know how to play it, but he did.

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He played it as Ronald Coleman.

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Do you remember ever reading those articles in DWM when he got

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terribly chatty in the early 90s before he sadly, before he sadly

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lost him?

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But, you know, he did love the matinee idols and grew up with them

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you know, Danny Kane, all the rest.

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He was Danny Kay's stand-in.

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I'm just going to talk about purple.

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But oh, yes.

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Ring.

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It's a lovely.

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No, I've never noticed that the Doctor Who logo was Baker-lite

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wrapped oven tray before.

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I guess it's a Christmas theme.

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How crisp that title card is.

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Freckles.

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Oh, it's so many freckles.

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That's just new.

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Like new.

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What's she doing with it?

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Oh, no, that's explained, isn't it?

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What she's got stethoscope in the house.

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Yeah, yeah.

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There's a medical student in another flat or something.

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Cough.

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Her name's Martha.

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Yes Fabulous.

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So on the billy watch right now, that's what's produced by Phil

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Collision.

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It does.

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Did it?

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okay.

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I think people have had a bit too much to drink for Christmas.

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How far would are Billy's teeth for this one?

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They're not new.

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She hasn't got the new teeth yet, has she?

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Was that round one, was it?

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Has she got the new teeth yet?

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Sorry that was the champagne.

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Because when she comes back in season four, honestly, I think

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she's going to eat the camera.

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Yeah, she can do heart stuff.

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Oh, look. come onto the screen before she does.

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Yeah, no, she doesn't look at his crotch to check whether he has 2

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things.

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That disappoints me.

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Yeah.

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It's not my memory.

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Well, look, space dust.

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What was his nickname on set?

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David 10 inch.

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So he coined it himself.

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It doesn't count.

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That's it.

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Oh, speaking of which.

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That looks very rude.

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It does look slightly rude.

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Cosmic sperm.

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That's why her everything in her fridge is white hot.

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Because it doesn't have a back?

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Correct.

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Much like...

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Like her tumble dryer and her washing machine.

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Yep, n none of her white goods have a back.

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It explains so much.

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White bads, wouldn't it?

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Oh, look.

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Tears in her eyes.

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Proper acting from Billy.

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What me and him were, you know, like, a rat and a rat and a lab

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you know.

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She's really selling this.

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I mean, I tend to forget, you know, we're all classic serious fans

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here, so we're used to all this, but I'm sure that you knew who

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fans out there would have been just morning, morning, Christopher.

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But we're sort of going, well, here's the new guy.

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Let's wait and see what's happening.

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I think this is so well done because Russell knows exactly how you

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react when your doctor goes.

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You know, because he's experience...

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You bring you bring a bloke in from the costumongers with a pair

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of stripy, winsy pyjamas.

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Isn't that lovely?

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He is.

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The PM.

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Isn't it lovely?

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It's not a very flashing suit though.

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No, well.

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I do love Penelope Wilton.

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TVs, Penelope Wilson.

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She's just fantastic. she?

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Such a pity what he does to it at the end of the episode.

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And we'll get there.

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Would it have been amazing if we'd actually had Brexit under

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Penelope Wilton?

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I don't think he would have had Brexit.

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Oh, look, see, this is the handsome Daniel Fwellen. gotten how

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pretty and well she was.

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Yeah, he's cute.

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Pixie like as well.

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Yeah, he's super young.

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You know, like when you're a kid, you just sort of read bald and

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bearded as, you know, an old guy.

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He must only be like, he must be less than 30 short.

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He's 13.

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Honey, I was bold and bearded by the time I was 29.

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That looks a bit fake.

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It does.

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Yeah, it's Dr...

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That's awesome.

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Is he in other things?

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I have the feeling that Russell may have worked with him before

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when he was a child in some kind of TV show.

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Yeah, something like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, real branding.

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We've had Dr. Pepper in the fridge and it stayed...

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Russell's getting a few little titbits for Christmas.

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Well, she supplies. yes.

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Other fragrances are also available.

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Jodie Scuff.

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Jodie Scuff, Jodie Scuff.

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Look, it was Jody all the time.

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I do like Jody Scarf.

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I wish it was a one.

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The shoes?

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Jody Scarf. available from Paul Smith.

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Well, that's the idea. like Billy's hair here.

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Okay, so we're going to shoehorn some menace into this scene.

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Are we Christmas weeping angel?

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Drag queens. you can get a cream for that.

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Information.

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Yeah.

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And and some great sort of legwork here from from Noel.

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Look at this. bouncing up and down.

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Is he made of plastic in this?

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Is it just that they're all so young?

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I think in this, this is the story where I really begin to like

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Norse performance.

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It just seems more natural and less season one.

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He actually does, doesn't he?

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And they're really good together.

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I love her, him making fun of her for those.

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Oh, I love, you know, hearing those stories about the Tartars.

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You know, he's really funny and he's he's not being a victim, you

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know.

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Yeah, no, this is, you're right, Todd, this is the point at which

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you really, you get something to do.

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It's not just a joke character.

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I mean, actually no.

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The end of season one, sorry, series one is where that really

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happens, but this is the moment which you fall in love with him

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isn't it?

266
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Yeah, is when he's getting shot.

267
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Well, why are they trying to actually kill them?

268
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I just want to know.

269
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I don't quite get it.

270
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Because the episode was underrunning?

271
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No, I think it is to put some Christmas menace in.

272
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So we have Santa's and we have a Christmas tree and that's some

273
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proper Christmassy menace.

274
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This is the 1st time that it's been Christmas on Doctor Who with

275
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one notable exception.

276
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And so they're having some sort of fun Christmassy stuff, but it

277
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doesn't actually fit with the rest of the plot.

278
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And it has the thinnest possible justification in dialogue with

279
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that sort of pilot fish thing that the doctor says, but it doesn't

280
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actually make any sense.

281
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I guess I don't mind them being pilot fish, like, you know, coming

282
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down to check out what's going on, but, you know, to try and do

283
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away with them.

284
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Yeah, somehow, somehow they know that Rose and Mickey have

285
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something to do with the doctor, the doctor explains that they're

286
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going to...

287
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Yeah, something and they're going to run a battery off him and

288
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stuff.

289
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But it all holds together for long enough that you don't worry

290
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about it until the episode's over. can chew on some Santas and a

291
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Christmas tree into it.

292
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Yeah.

293
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Yeah.

294
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And why not?

295
00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:44.340
It's fun.

296
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Yeah.

297
00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:46.620
Oh, here we go.

298
00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:47.460
More space time.

299
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He should have had a breath mint.

300
00:10:49.860 --> 00:10:50.700
Yeah.

301
00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.220
He's got to give up vaping.

302
00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.980
Halitosis is a terrible affection.

303
00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.340
Get off the phone, get off the phone. hilarious.

304
00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:06.600
And we're about to come up too, I think. this the sequence?

305
00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:08.279
Yeah.

306
00:11:08.340 --> 00:11:10.320
This is this...

307
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Oh, sorry.

308
00:11:11.820 --> 00:11:16.500
This is actually one of my my favourite sequence ever.

309
00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.779
With all the hoop earrings.

310
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Almost ever.

311
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Like, it's just this when it starts to spin.

312
00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:28.679
And when she says her line, I just think, I just I'm already

313
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laughing.

314
00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:32.159
That's so funny, Todd, because normally I think that I would have

315
00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:33.720
expected you to think that it was too silly.

316
00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:34.860
No, I love it.

317
00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.259
It's the ultimate Jackie moment.

318
00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.740
It's in no way real at any point.

319
00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:42.480
The whole thing is fantastic.

320
00:11:42.539 --> 00:11:43.860
This is fantastic.

321
00:11:43.860 --> 00:11:44.580
That shot straight.

322
00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:45.720
Oh, sorry, that is, yes.

323
00:11:45.779 --> 00:11:48.360
But the like for the moment you see that's not real.

324
00:11:48.419 --> 00:11:49.320
That's right.

325
00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:52.440
It's point of view shots are real.

326
00:11:52.500 --> 00:11:53.639
Oh, no, just let it.

327
00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:54.600
Shops everything up.

328
00:11:54.659 --> 00:11:55.620
It's fantastic.

329
00:11:56.700 --> 00:11:59.460
Oh, yes, you've used the chair before.

330
00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:00.419
That's very effective.

331
00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:06.779
And Noel has little, like, their little explos- explosives or

332
00:12:06.779 --> 00:12:08.879
something in the chair leg that are exploding it.

333
00:12:09.299 --> 00:12:11.519
Uh, it's so great.

334
00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:14.580
No, first, she's too...

335
00:12:14.580 --> 00:12:18.960
When's Big Finish going to give Noel his own series?

336
00:12:19.019 --> 00:12:21.899
I thought you were going to say, give the Christmas tree itself.

337
00:12:22.019 --> 00:12:22.799
That's what I thought too.

338
00:12:22.860 --> 00:12:23.940
No.

339
00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:24.600
Okay.

340
00:12:24.659 --> 00:12:26.820
Mickey and Martha, Mickey and Martha, Mickey and Martha.

341
00:12:26.940 --> 00:12:28.740
There you go. finish spinoff.

342
00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.340
There's some great acting happening here, isn't there?

343
00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.220
It's also cleverly, very close to what children will be playing at

344
00:12:38.220 --> 00:12:38.460
home.

345
00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:39.659
Oh, yeah.

346
00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.580
That is golden.

347
00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.679
Christmas tree.

348
00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.340
Oh, look at that.

349
00:12:51.659 --> 00:12:53.879
Hair trembling with emotion.

350
00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:55.320
It's got great herography.

351
00:12:55.379 --> 00:12:56.279
Yeah, yeah.

352
00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:00.840
So of course, we're going to have the outline of the Christmas

353
00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.259
tree in that wall for the rest of the episode, which is sort of

354
00:13:04.259 --> 00:13:04.679
really great.

355
00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:08.039
This is actually quite well judged too, isn't it?

356
00:13:08.100 --> 00:13:10.259
Because you don't want the doctor.

357
00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:14.700
Like the setup where we don't have the doctor for like half an

358
00:13:14.700 --> 00:13:16.679
hour is a good decision.

359
00:13:16.740 --> 00:13:17.759
I agree.

360
00:13:17.820 --> 00:13:20.159
It also shapes the entire story.

361
00:13:20.940 --> 00:13:27.059
He's absence is what causes a number of people to die.

362
00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:32.759
It's what causes Harriet Jones to make the terrible decisions she

363
00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.820
has to make because she's seen what the world could be like when

364
00:13:35.820 --> 00:13:36.659
he's not there to save them.

365
00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:41.580
And it's what destroys his relationship with her and inevitably

366
00:13:41.580 --> 00:13:44.700
ends up with her, you know, not being prime minister and then

367
00:13:44.700 --> 00:13:46.019
dying at the hand of the Daleks.

368
00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:46.919
Oh, spoilers.

369
00:13:47.700 --> 00:13:49.799
I think they watched it.

370
00:13:49.860 --> 00:13:50.639
Spoilers.

371
00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:52.679
Well, she doesn't, does she?

372
00:13:52.740 --> 00:13:54.600
She drops through a trap door and escapes on a motorbike?

373
00:13:54.659 --> 00:13:55.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

374
00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:56.159
That's cannon.

375
00:13:56.220 --> 00:13:57.299
Yeah, yeah.

376
00:13:57.299 --> 00:13:58.559
No, Russell said it was gone.

377
00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:02.220
He cartooned it in everything.

378
00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.600
Is that in the is that in the poetry book?

379
00:14:06.659 --> 00:14:06.960
Yes.

380
00:14:07.019 --> 00:14:07.620
Yeah, yeah.

381
00:14:07.980 --> 00:14:10.440
Now the Jackie moment coming up.

382
00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.440
Uh, he's so rude to James.

383
00:14:14.580 --> 00:14:18.360
David Tennant looks so different in different shots.

384
00:14:18.419 --> 00:14:22.559
Like when he's sort of rocking the giant teeth. like he looks sort

385
00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:25.379
of quite fierce, but sometimes he's got sort of a very weak sort

386
00:14:25.379 --> 00:14:25.919
of chin.

387
00:14:25.980 --> 00:14:28.019
He's very sort of odd.

388
00:14:28.620 --> 00:14:31.440
They do work together well.

389
00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:39.720
Oh, dear.

390
00:14:42.899 --> 00:14:45.419
It's most about hair.

391
00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.940
It is cheap clothing.

392
00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.299
Do you think the gurning is a Scottish doctor thing?

393
00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:52.919
No, oh, do you think?

394
00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:53.460
does it?

395
00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:53.879
He does it.

396
00:14:53.940 --> 00:14:54.960
Capaldi, does it?

397
00:14:55.019 --> 00:14:55.799
Jodie's not Scottish.

398
00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:57.299
No, she doesn't Gurn.

399
00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:58.860
She just sort of wrinkles.

400
00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:00.179
She does wrinkly nose eye acting.

401
00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:00.720
Yeah.

402
00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:04.080
She does Samantha from Bewitched.

403
00:15:04.139 --> 00:15:07.320
I was going to say, it's actually more Kenneth Williams mid

404
00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:07.320
carean.

405
00:15:07.620 --> 00:15:09.240
It's okay.

406
00:15:09.299 --> 00:15:11.820
I'm getting very intense.

407
00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:12.779
What are you saying, Tom?

408
00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.100
He's intense.

409
00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:18.059
She's getting very blue over there in the corner.

410
00:15:18.179 --> 00:15:21.539
I think Silla Gate has had very adverse reaction.

411
00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:22.259
Oh, in a good way.

412
00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:27.000
So that actually does look like Captain Jack's overcoat, doesn't

413
00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:27.179
it?

414
00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.460
No, but I think, isn't it Howard's?

415
00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:30.840
Howard's...

416
00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:32.220
A man can dream.

417
00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.480
Oh, gosh, he does look incredibly young.

418
00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:38.639
Do you remember dial-up?

419
00:15:38.700 --> 00:15:40.080
Dial-up.

420
00:15:40.139 --> 00:15:40.919
Yeah.

421
00:15:40.980 --> 00:15:41.399
Look at that.

422
00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:43.080
No one had dialup even then.

423
00:15:43.139 --> 00:15:44.700
No, we did.

424
00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.299
Oh no, that's the sea devils.

425
00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.980
It's so hard to... wade through the mists of time.

426
00:15:56.100 --> 00:15:57.419
And I really miss this.

427
00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.460
No one has really properly done this again.

428
00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.220
No, we haven't been probed in ages, have we?

429
00:16:02.340 --> 00:16:04.559
Daniel Llewellyn, what?

430
00:16:04.620 --> 00:16:07.559
Because you all are familiar with his pixie charmingness.

431
00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:08.879
No, we don't know.

432
00:16:08.940 --> 00:16:12.720
Yeah, that can be something that the viewers at home can Google

433
00:16:13.980 --> 00:16:17.519
because Alta Vista if they're out.

434
00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:18.480
That's it.

435
00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:20.159
If it's 2005.

436
00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:22.259
They can dogpile.

437
00:16:25.379 --> 00:16:28.919
Well, duck, duck, go if you don't want to be, you know, owned by

438
00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:30.779
whoever is selling your information.

439
00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:32.399
No, that's I use that.

440
00:16:32.460 --> 00:16:33.059
Do you?

441
00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:33.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

442
00:16:33.779 --> 00:16:35.100
For your private inter web.

443
00:16:35.100 --> 00:16:36.000
My private inter web.

444
00:16:36.059 --> 00:16:39.539
It's like they keep focussing on the misspelling of Guinevere.

445
00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.039
They got the...

446
00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:42.840
Look, look, we misspelled it. this book.

447
00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:45.360
Oh, dear.

448
00:16:45.419 --> 00:16:50.460
But yeah, there's not, you're not getting that frame rate on dial

449
00:16:49.980 --> 00:16:52.080
up with that animated shark.

450
00:16:52.139 --> 00:16:52.860
I can...

451
00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:54.960
Oh, used to sit there forever waiting to see.

452
00:16:55.019 --> 00:16:56.700
Is he got pants on or not?

453
00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:58.559
Load, load, load.

454
00:16:58.559 --> 00:16:59.639
To buffer first.

455
00:16:59.700 --> 00:17:02.100
Oh, load meant a very different thing back then.

456
00:17:02.340 --> 00:17:04.259
Oh, darling.

457
00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:06.000
This is a peachy podcast.

458
00:17:06.059 --> 00:17:06.480
No star.

459
00:17:06.539 --> 00:17:07.019
Oh, hello.

460
00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:10.019
Oh, has anyone else seen Bohemian Rhapsody?

461
00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.480
That's so effective?

462
00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:13.140
And look at them.

463
00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:14.759
That's so wonderful.

464
00:17:14.819 --> 00:17:15.900
Freddie hadn't been dead that long.

465
00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:16.740
I think it's cruel.

466
00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:22.259
I love the way it just smashes into the news report that we have

467
00:17:22.259 --> 00:17:22.859
aliens.

468
00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.839
Trinity Wells.

469
00:17:24.900 --> 00:17:25.500
Yeah.

470
00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.240
I miss you, Trinity.

471
00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.140
And the music...

472
00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:32.519
It still feels like an episode of the Bill.

473
00:17:32.579 --> 00:17:34.440
No, but a good thing.

474
00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:35.640
But look where we are.

475
00:17:35.700 --> 00:17:38.339
It's so wonderful rather than just being...

476
00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:39.480
No, no, no.

477
00:17:39.539 --> 00:17:41.160
That's not kind of castle.

478
00:17:41.220 --> 00:17:41.700
No, no.

479
00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:43.980
That is kind of Castle, just...

480
00:17:43.980 --> 00:17:44.579
Oh, is it really?

481
00:17:44.579 --> 00:17:46.019
Yeah, that's...

482
00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:47.039
Yeah.

483
00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:49.140
But that's so great.

484
00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.039
You know, it is that thing where Russell does something to London

485
00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:58.799
during this, you know, he puts a big auton base sort of under the

486
00:17:58.799 --> 00:17:59.759
Thames embankment.

487
00:17:59.819 --> 00:18:02.579
He puts unit thing in the Tower of London.

488
00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:03.720
I'd forgotten.

489
00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:06.900
This is the 1st return of the multicoloured berries.

490
00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:10.740
I'd forgotten that unit came back now.

491
00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.000
I always thought it was...

492
00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.880
They are briefly an alien.

493
00:18:14.940 --> 00:18:15.539
Are they?

494
00:18:15.539 --> 00:18:19.319
But they don't wear the same outfits and they don't get a speaking

495
00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:19.980
role.

496
00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.039
They just get to be electrocuted by Joseph Green.

497
00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:25.680
Yeah, this is I know who you are.

498
00:18:28.740 --> 00:18:32.519
Do you notice they're actually not bee, not pearls.

499
00:18:32.579 --> 00:18:33.900
They're stainless steel beads.

500
00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:35.940
Jones.

501
00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.539
The Le Mans 24 hours.

502
00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:40.680
She must have gotten for winning that.

503
00:18:40.740 --> 00:18:42.960
No, it's it's Benoit.

504
00:18:43.019 --> 00:18:44.880
Pearls don't look like Benoit.

505
00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:47.460
Look an Australian.

506
00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:48.299
Is that strange?

507
00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:49.019
Is that her assistant?

508
00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:50.099
Oh no, it's Daniel.

509
00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:50.880
Where is an Australian?

510
00:18:50.940 --> 00:18:51.779
Australian.

511
00:18:51.779 --> 00:18:52.500
Alex.

512
00:18:52.500 --> 00:18:53.460
Australian.

513
00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:53.819
Yes.

514
00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:55.680
It's Adam Garcia.

515
00:18:55.740 --> 00:18:56.579
Adam Garcia.

516
00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:57.720
My favourite thing.

517
00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:58.980
Oh, goodly, so it is.

518
00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:02.579
She introduces him and says, I've never had a right right hand man

519
00:19:02.579 --> 00:19:04.019
before and I quite like it.

520
00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.660
And he says, I quite like it myself.

521
00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.660
I bet you do, darling.

522
00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:18.660
Oh, and here's Sally, who gets to be Daniel Llewellyn's love

523
00:19:18.660 --> 00:19:21.059
interest in the novelisation.

524
00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:22.859
No, I just finished buying that. week.

525
00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:24.299
What did you think, young James?

526
00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:25.259
really enjoyed it.

527
00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:26.640
Yeah, I thought it was really fun.

528
00:19:26.700 --> 00:19:28.980
Was it true to the germaneness of this?

529
00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.240
It's almost word for word the same, really.

530
00:19:33.299 --> 00:19:35.940
But flesh is out a lot of the scenes.

531
00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:42.059
A lot of the descriptive text is really quite nice.

532
00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:49.680
And the minor characters, like Sally and Llewellyn get a...

533
00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.480
Yeah, they get a thing nice fleshing out.

534
00:19:51.539 --> 00:19:54.720
I like how the unit guy talks about the Martians look nothing like

535
00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:54.960
this.

536
00:19:55.019 --> 00:19:58.799
Like, it's a little nod to classic series fans. you know Thank God

537
00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:00.900
we'll never see those crappy fibreglass.

538
00:20:01.019 --> 00:20:03.180
Lizard man ever again.

539
00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.660
With heads that are not proportional to the rest of their body.

540
00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:09.839
Do we mean those Martians or to mean the ones from the

541
00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:10.500
ambassadors?

542
00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:12.480
I love the ambassadors.

543
00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:14.579
I love them.

544
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:15.420
Love them.

545
00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.339
Mamma Mia.

546
00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:18.359
Oh my goodness, it is.

547
00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.400
Bohemian Rhapsody.

548
00:20:20.460 --> 00:20:23.160
I thought you were going to be very unkind and say free to a

549
00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:23.880
nanafried.

550
00:20:24.660 --> 00:20:27.359
I didn't know Apple were reforming again.

551
00:20:27.420 --> 00:20:29.759
It's tank cartoons.

552
00:20:30.900 --> 00:20:35.759
No, they are, but they're using, you've heard about that, haven't

553
00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:35.880
you?

554
00:20:35.940 --> 00:20:38.039
This is actually the new Aberclip.

555
00:20:38.099 --> 00:20:43.079
They're using animated simulacre so that they will look like they

556
00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:44.220
did in 76.

557
00:20:44.339 --> 00:20:46.079
Oh dear, that's going to work well.

558
00:20:46.140 --> 00:20:48.359
I mean, like Grand Moft Hark and all over again.

559
00:20:48.539 --> 00:20:52.079
Look like those things on the web you're not allowed to look at

560
00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:52.859
now Tumblr's changed.

561
00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:53.880
It's what it looks like.

562
00:20:53.940 --> 00:20:56.400
Oh, ooh, that looks wrong.

563
00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:57.539
What?

564
00:20:57.539 --> 00:21:01.200
The subtitle with TARDIS spelt with a capital T. Oh, no, that's

565
00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:01.619
just a word.

566
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:03.240
I'm gonna write to my MP.

567
00:21:03.660 --> 00:21:05.519
They should know better.

568
00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:08.519
Yeah.

569
00:21:08.940 --> 00:21:11.160
It's very interesting.

570
00:21:11.220 --> 00:21:12.299
I think we've learnt a bit.

571
00:21:12.299 --> 00:21:12.900
I like all this.

572
00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.059
I like all this stuff that they're talking about the fact they're

573
00:21:15.059 --> 00:21:15.599
not translating.

574
00:21:15.660 --> 00:21:18.119
The doctor's doctor does not well.

575
00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:20.220
Therefore, this translation's not happening.

576
00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:24.359
It's all, this whole, the construction is this whole story and the

577
00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:26.940
way it builds to the moment where we need the doctor back, we want

578
00:21:26.940 --> 00:21:30.000
the doctor back, and come on, give us the doctor and then we

579
00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:31.859
finally get it, is just so clever.

580
00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.819
I think too, that it's not Chekhov's translation problem.

581
00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:39.180
You know, like we aren't there sitting waiting for it to fix

582
00:21:39.180 --> 00:21:39.839
itself.

583
00:21:39.900 --> 00:21:42.900
It just looks like it works as exposition in context.

584
00:21:43.019 --> 00:21:46.500
And so later on when the Sicrax starts speaking English it's a

585
00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:46.859
surprise.

586
00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:50.519
Can you imagine that we would have had a British Prime Minister

587
00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:53.160
that would have spoken like that to George Bush?

588
00:21:53.220 --> 00:21:58.259
Well, yes, and that indeed, there was an American president who

589
00:21:58.259 --> 00:21:59.460
would have been interested.

590
00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:01.319
Yeah, but that wasn't about him.

591
00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.559
But remember that when she's introduced, one of the things that we

592
00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:09.240
learn about her is that she voted not to do the invasion of Iraq.

593
00:22:09.299 --> 00:22:13.559
She voted against it and she said it and she even makes reference

594
00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:13.980
to it.

595
00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:15.539
And so this is, again, that.

596
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:21.000
And it's cruel of Russell to do this because we know now what's

597
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.180
going to happen to her at the end of the episode, but she's super

598
00:22:24.180 --> 00:22:24.599
likeable.

599
00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:26.940
And what that sets up in series three.

600
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:30.299
Why do you think Russell, and he's not the 1st or last time he's

601
00:22:30.299 --> 00:22:30.660
done this?

602
00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:35.160
Why does he diminish or destabilise his heroines like this?

603
00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:43.440
I actually think that I think that it's the most interesting and

604
00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:45.180
dramatic moment in the entire episode.

605
00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.119
You know, it's an episode where Earth gets invaded and lots of

606
00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.180
silly things happen, but the really, really dramatic thing is

607
00:22:51.180 --> 00:22:54.779
someone that we love, someone that we loved through 2 episodes and

608
00:22:54.779 --> 00:22:55.559
we're made to love here.

609
00:22:55.619 --> 00:22:57.480
Which is an eternity in our little world.

610
00:22:57.539 --> 00:23:01.740
Yeah, because she's a good, ethical, decent person and she makes

611
00:23:01.740 --> 00:23:03.000
one wrong decision.

612
00:23:03.059 --> 00:23:04.740
And is it a wrong decision as well?

613
00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:07.019
Right, his standards, by his standards.

614
00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:11.759
And she knows too. when it happens, because I think she acts her

615
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.839
socks off in that scene.

616
00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:14.819
Oh, she's just tremendous.

617
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:18.240
Yeah, so...

618
00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:20.339
The other thing is they may not have been able to get her back

619
00:23:20.339 --> 00:23:20.819
after this.

620
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:22.920
That's how the thing she might have been off doing a lot of stuff

621
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:24.000
so...

622
00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:25.019
It's terribly popular.

623
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.799
I think he was trying to destabilise our very natures and the

624
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:32.819
whole nanny wanting that we have, the desire, the way the reason

625
00:23:32.819 --> 00:23:33.839
we built up Thatcher.

626
00:23:33.900 --> 00:23:36.240
I think he's actually telling us to stop worshipping the people we

627
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:37.079
put in charge.

628
00:23:37.140 --> 00:23:40.140
There probably is something to be said for that, you know, that

629
00:23:40.140 --> 00:23:45.000
even a politician who we love and who whose politics we agree with

630
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:46.319
is still a politician.

631
00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:48.720
Yeah, there's still sort of real politic.

632
00:23:48.779 --> 00:23:50.819
Oh, I think that's...

633
00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:53.099
It's the, I mean, Mark...

634
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.319
Marcus Aurelius said the same thing.

635
00:23:55.380 --> 00:23:59.940
You know, you do, and Caesar had, you know, whispered, had a tiny

636
00:23:59.940 --> 00:24:05.579
Daniel Llewellyn next to him saying, remember thou art but a man?

637
00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:06.539
Yeah, you'll die.

638
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:07.920
Yeah, and that.

639
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:09.779
You will.

640
00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:15.480
Oh, and that there's no reason for this scene except to show how

641
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.680
incredibly loving and wonderful Jackie.

642
00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:21.480
She's just sniffing Howard on his job.

643
00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:27.119
Oh, isn't she?

644
00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:30.539
This is when about the time, um, you remember when Billy was

645
00:24:30.539 --> 00:24:33.720
saying Rose Tyler's the most selfish character she's ever played?

646
00:24:33.779 --> 00:24:35.640
No, there's a much worse scene coming up.

647
00:24:35.700 --> 00:24:36.359
You wait.

648
00:24:36.420 --> 00:24:37.140
You wait.

649
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.059
She's horrific in it, I want to slap her.

650
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:42.000
But this is the old slap it here.

651
00:24:42.059 --> 00:24:44.940
The proper doctor wouldn't be like this. is what the kids at home

652
00:24:44.940 --> 00:24:45.420
are thinking.

653
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:46.619
Yeah, of course, yes.

654
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:50.640
If you're mourning a loss of the previous incarnation.

655
00:24:50.700 --> 00:24:53.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

656
00:24:56.460 --> 00:25:00.539
Oh, magic blue glove.

657
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:02.039
You're like my new glove.

658
00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:03.119
It's shiny and blue.

659
00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:05.579
It's a bit Michael Jackson, isn't it?

660
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.339
And the gloves, too.

661
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:08.640
Yeah.

662
00:25:10.740 --> 00:25:12.420
Who is it that says it looks like a spell?

663
00:25:12.779 --> 00:25:15.539
Yes, it's it's the scientist.

664
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:16.200
I love that.

665
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.500
Well, sci-fi fan.

666
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:20.940
He probably watches Game of Thrones.

667
00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:22.500
From the future.

668
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:23.220
Yeah.

669
00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:27.119
Now this is so inventive.

670
00:25:27.299 --> 00:25:30.480
Don't you think this is such an interesting thing to happen?

671
00:25:31.140 --> 00:25:35.880
It is very interesting and I, again, not seen anything like this

672
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:36.779
before on the show.

673
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.859
It's much more what a soap should be doing if soaps were written

674
00:25:40.859 --> 00:25:42.359
for us and not the other way around.

675
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:44.519
We're writing...

676
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:46.200
Russell is writing for soap audiences.

677
00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:48.299
Imagine if soapwriters wrote for us.

678
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:49.619
This is what we'd see.

679
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:50.160
Yeah.

680
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:54.599
Well, the thing I like about this too, is that, you know, lately

681
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.380
we've seen Doctor Who, where there's been like 2 extra characters

682
00:25:58.380 --> 00:26:01.259
on the regular cast or 3 extra characters, and it's very

683
00:26:01.259 --> 00:26:04.319
frequently that there'll just be a small number of talking parts.

684
00:26:04.380 --> 00:26:08.400
But there are a lot of talking parts here and stacks of extras. of

685
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:08.880
extras.

686
00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:09.720
Look at that.

687
00:26:09.779 --> 00:26:10.259
Yeah.

688
00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:10.980
Yeah.

689
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:15.779
It's, it sells the, uh, the scale.

690
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:17.039
Yeah, exactly.

691
00:26:17.099 --> 00:26:18.660
Of of the danger.

692
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.099
It's so good.

693
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.980
And it's happening now as we're watching too.

694
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.220
I swear that little girl in that sequence almost cracks up when

695
00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:27.000
she goes out of shot.

696
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.180
Honestly, go back rewatch it.

697
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:31.799
We're not rewinding.

698
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:32.819
Oh please.

699
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.140
We would never do anything like that.

700
00:26:37.500 --> 00:26:42.000
Oh, and the guy wearing the reindeer you know, antlers.

701
00:26:42.059 --> 00:26:45.180
It's all very convenient that absolutely none of them are like

702
00:26:45.180 --> 00:26:46.619
just in their undies or something like that.

703
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.539
Someone or nude.

704
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:50.759
Someone gets out of the shower and heads up to the roof.

705
00:26:50.819 --> 00:26:51.539
Exactly.

706
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.660
Do they make a joke about that in the novel?

707
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:55.680
I can't remember.

708
00:26:57.539 --> 00:26:59.039
Yeah.

709
00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:02.099
It's so clever. still feels like an episode of the Bill.

710
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.220
But what's interesting is the fact that not everybody's affected

711
00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:07.440
and you're trying to work out why that is at this point.

712
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.160
Oh, he's Danny. isn't he sweet?

713
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.140
Gherkin.

714
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:18.839
I'd worked that out, Nathan.

715
00:27:19.140 --> 00:27:21.359
Have a drink, too, listener.

716
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.920
It was a powerful moment at the time and it still isn't.

717
00:27:26.579 --> 00:27:32.099
This is seeing this now contrasting with what we've just viewed

718
00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:33.779
this year, with New Who.

719
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:39.059
It is closer to new who than pretty much anything we've had since

720
00:27:39.059 --> 00:27:42.299
the glory dose of Russell, isn't it?

721
00:27:42.420 --> 00:27:44.039
Season 11?

722
00:27:44.099 --> 00:27:46.980
But it still doesn't feel at all like this.

723
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.140
It's very close, but it's not quite.

724
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.039
Well, I mean, this that is hilariously ludicrous.

725
00:27:53.099 --> 00:27:57.359
Like, you know, obviously everyone in Italy is sort of clambering

726
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.279
to climb on top of the Colosseum.

727
00:27:59.339 --> 00:27:59.759
I see him.

728
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.220
They were supposed to have them on the harbour bridge and in the

729
00:28:02.220 --> 00:28:03.000
opera house.

730
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:03.539
Yeah, yeah.

731
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.819
I'm pretty sure you can't get up there.

732
00:28:05.819 --> 00:28:09.240
And I did try last year. onto the Harbour Bridge.

733
00:28:09.299 --> 00:28:11.039
No, to climb on top of the...

734
00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:11.400
Oh, yes.

735
00:28:11.460 --> 00:28:12.180
Coliseum.

736
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:12.539
Yes.

737
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:12.900
No.

738
00:28:12.900 --> 00:28:18.660
Get your hint on to the opera house with your spray can.

739
00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:18.960
No.

740
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:20.819
That was you.

741
00:28:24.779 --> 00:28:27.000
Oh, it's so good.

742
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.240
And I do think this works incredibly well.

743
00:28:30.299 --> 00:28:33.660
Russell does a great job of even being able to keep the doctor

744
00:28:33.660 --> 00:28:38.519
offscreen because this is like the Pertuy era.

745
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:39.480
Tension anticipation.

746
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.039
Well, again, it is Spearhead.

747
00:28:41.099 --> 00:28:45.119
Yeah, there's enough people around that we know and like, and he

748
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:51.299
very quickly makes us like Danny and handsome right hand man.

749
00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:56.039
You know, it is something that Russell does just incredibly well.

750
00:28:56.099 --> 00:28:57.900
The major's very pretty as well.

751
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.059
Yeah, he's pretty handsome.

752
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.200
Yeah.

753
00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:02.940
And convincing.

754
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.960
He'll be back, though.

755
00:29:04.019 --> 00:29:06.599
I'm sure that they'll bring unit back and die terribly.

756
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:07.559
Not at all.

757
00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:13.740
And all of that's so interesting too.

758
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:14.880
All of it.

759
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.660
Intriguing.

760
00:29:15.779 --> 00:29:19.259
Such a, you know, a strange thing to do.

761
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.079
It's an audience that's grown up with Agatha Christie.

762
00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:25.980
So we like little pieces at a time and then we rationalise it as

763
00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:29.940
we go and post-rationalize it when she was a messy, messy woman.

764
00:29:29.940 --> 00:29:33.359
They used to throw a dinner out of a creation, just, you know

765
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.839
throw everything in and then fib and play around with the facts.

766
00:29:36.900 --> 00:29:39.599
But the human mind likes doing this and Russell knows we do.

767
00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:43.319
I think too, it shows you how to do exposition.

768
00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:47.460
You know, you don't just have one character just flop a whole, you

769
00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:51.359
know, speech of exposition in particular.

770
00:29:51.420 --> 00:29:54.059
No, I'm not thinking about anything in particular right now, but

771
00:29:54.059 --> 00:29:57.180
this is exposition happening in a scene full of lots of

772
00:29:57.180 --> 00:29:59.880
interesting people where we get character stuff at the same time

773
00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:01.920
conversational between people.

774
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.859
Yeah, and they're finding it out.

775
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:05.880
They're finding it out.

776
00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:06.539
They don't know it.

777
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:08.099
So it's interesting.

778
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:09.299
And engaging.

779
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:10.799
I love this.

780
00:30:10.859 --> 00:30:13.200
The Queen's speech has been cancelled.

781
00:30:13.259 --> 00:30:15.539
Because they're all on the roof.

782
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:30.599
Just her look off camera and then her sort of slightly sort of

783
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.000
shamefaced, you know, they're on the roof.

784
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:39.660
See, subtle touches that Russell does, that you just, the mind of

785
00:30:39.660 --> 00:30:40.079
a genius.

786
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.440
Oh, look, preliminary reports indicate genetic link.

787
00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:45.119
Did you see on the Chiron down the bottom?

788
00:30:45.180 --> 00:30:47.700
And now I'm...

789
00:30:47.700 --> 00:30:51.000
Message to these. this is so great.

790
00:30:51.059 --> 00:30:53.160
And the music is doing now.

791
00:30:53.220 --> 00:30:56.099
It's always, I think it's, I don't know whether her teeth are that

792
00:30:56.099 --> 00:30:58.319
far forward or her tongue's always pushing in that way.

793
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.039
I think there's things going on in that woman's mouth.

794
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:03.480
The teeth are regenerating as we speak.

795
00:31:03.539 --> 00:31:06.599
They're actually forcing their way out of her gums.

796
00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:07.680
She needs to make more room for it.

797
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:09.119
Maybe that's it.

798
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:14.279
Oh, and having her pixelated for on a TV screen, making that

799
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.000
appeal, like giving that distance between her and us.

800
00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:21.180
And here is where Rose is utterly horrific.

801
00:31:21.660 --> 00:31:24.960
And Jackie's, the look on Jackie's face is so funny because she's

802
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.299
not putting up with any of Rose's crap here.

803
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.339
Because the doctor's gone.

804
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.519
He's left me There are 3000000000 people about to jump to their

805
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.839
deaths, but we're really worried about how the doctors left you.

806
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.000
And look, she's still a child.

807
00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:40.680
Come on, do we see Camille's face?

808
00:31:40.740 --> 00:31:41.519
I'm sorry.

809
00:31:41.579 --> 00:31:43.380
Oh, sorry, it's his. sorry.

810
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.099
But I'm sorry.

811
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.279
I don't care in this rewatch.

812
00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:51.240
But now, it's lucky nobody just sort of...

813
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.740
Accidentally... on the edge.

814
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.460
Oh, and so look at them, look at extras running around in the

815
00:31:59.460 --> 00:32:00.059
background.

816
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.140
Remember when we used to have that?

817
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:03.299
So great.

818
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.099
Like any a year ago.

819
00:32:05.579 --> 00:32:10.200
It does look this year had some beautifully expensive moments, but

820
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.240
this does actually look like it had a larger budget.

821
00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:14.460
Yeah, I wonder about that too.

822
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.420
I think there's a small scale to series 11.

823
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:19.500
Definitely.

824
00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:24.359
Yeah. in the casting and we got some very cardboard episodes.

825
00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:28.140
It's very simple nonsets in some cases, but this is the magic

826
00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:32.880
flying coral poo. invading the East End credits.

827
00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:39.779
That's right We don't have the rights to that.

828
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.079
A giant blown up crap. 8 seconds.

829
00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:45.779
It is like a giant blown up crab, isn't it, James?

830
00:32:46.259 --> 00:32:48.599
Look at all these young people.

831
00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:51.000
What are you young people doing on my show?

832
00:32:51.420 --> 00:32:53.819
I won't be so young anymore.

833
00:32:54.900 --> 00:32:56.880
It looks great too.

834
00:32:56.940 --> 00:32:59.819
They do a great job of making all the spaceships look completely

835
00:32:59.819 --> 00:33:02.460
different for the whole RTD era.

836
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.640
There's a real care to make everything look really distinctive.

837
00:33:05.700 --> 00:33:10.380
It's almost as good as the axe on...

838
00:33:10.500 --> 00:33:11.460
Yeah.

839
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:12.539
I was going to say.

840
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.220
Yes, the albino...

841
00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:17.099
That weird slug ass thing.

842
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:17.940
Yeah, yeah, yes.

843
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.000
I always thought it would be paperfish.

844
00:33:21.059 --> 00:33:22.740
A paper fish.

845
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:23.400
Oh, yeah, yeah.

846
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.059
Finally, Rose decides to do something.

847
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.220
Yeah, hide, mind you.

848
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:32.759
Yeah, no.

849
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:34.980
She's still got time in the TARDIS.

850
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.339
She's still got time for some self-pity, though, in a crisis.

851
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:42.359
Oh, dear.

852
00:33:44.099 --> 00:33:46.440
Don't shout at Camille.

853
00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:51.299
With all the extra things inside him, I wonder if he's heavier

854
00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:53.220
than normal, gentlemen.

855
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.819
Maybe he's still got bits of Eccleston inside him.

856
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:57.599
Ew.

857
00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:05.519
I loved his little, he's got a compact eye pack.

858
00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:08.460
You know, because this is pre-Iphone, like 2 years, pretty

859
00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:09.000
iPhone.

860
00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:12.000
He's got a little handheld computer.

861
00:34:12.059 --> 00:34:14.639
Other handheld computers are also available.

862
00:34:14.699 --> 00:34:15.420
Yeah.

863
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:17.519
Not anymore.

864
00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:21.900
She's a Blake 7 fan.

865
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.420
That's how she knows it's called a teleport. should have been a

866
00:34:24.420 --> 00:34:24.840
trans man.

867
00:34:24.900 --> 00:34:26.760
That actually felt very enterprised, didn't it?

868
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.639
And again, we're in Wookiehole.

869
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:35.099
No, we're not really, but we are in a cave.

870
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.559
A little bit or Mary terms wardrobe.

871
00:34:37.619 --> 00:34:39.960
I think this was Wookiehole. think it is.

872
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:41.460
Really?

873
00:34:41.460 --> 00:34:42.900
Is that?

874
00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:44.340
I thought it was just a set.

875
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.500
They do all look a bit Lala Ward, don't they?

876
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:48.000
There's Lala now.

877
00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:50.760
She's really let herself go.

878
00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:55.019
It's so well designed as well because that the face looks like, you

879
00:34:55.019 --> 00:35:01.500
know, um, the, uh, medical diagrams of the, the muscles of the

880
00:35:01.500 --> 00:35:01.920
human body.

881
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:03.659
Yeah, the bodyworks show.

882
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:03.960
Yeah.

883
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:04.320
Yeah.

884
00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:06.360
Oh, God, Jackie, you're hilarious.

885
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.840
Normally Russell just says, pick an animal, stick its head on a

886
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.039
person, call it a day.

887
00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:14.699
You know, job well done, but these look great.

888
00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:17.340
He really does, doesn't he?

889
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:18.119
He does.

890
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.159
Pig rhino thing.

891
00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:21.780
Yeah, cats.

892
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:22.440
That's it.

893
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.420
Fish rhino people. fish.

894
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:25.079
Yes, that's it.

895
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.159
Oh, and he's so brave.

896
00:35:29.219 --> 00:35:31.019
So brave and young.

897
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.079
It's not going to go well.

898
00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:36.239
See, that's a cave, Todd. not a set.

899
00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:37.139
Is it?

900
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:37.800
Yeah, yeah.

901
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:40.920
I think they've done something to maybe that's a set.

902
00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:44.639
I'm not quite sure, but certainly there's bits of this shot on

903
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:45.599
location in a cave.

904
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.420
Oh, and his brown eyes.

905
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:48.900
Look at him.

906
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.280
It's not going to go well.

907
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.059
No.

908
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.659
Oh, blessed.

909
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:55.199
Bye-bye.

910
00:35:55.260 --> 00:35:59.400
Oh, mind you, I think in other situations, Danny had been right up

911
00:35:59.400 --> 00:35:59.699
for that.

912
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.139
Oh, dear.

913
00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:03.239
Ask Sally about that.

914
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:10.320
It's, it's also the thing about, oh, well, you can't just have

915
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.960
alien shooting people with guns in New Doctor Who.

916
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:18.300
So there's always an interesting way of killing people, you know

917
00:36:18.300 --> 00:36:20.940
so this one leaves a threat.

918
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.460
Yes. who you are.

919
00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:28.500
So good.

920
00:36:28.619 --> 00:36:29.340
That is so good.

921
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:33.360
But it's also the fact that, you know, people are don't, like

922
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:34.800
there has now been some deaths.

923
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.260
Yeah, it makes the danger real. proper ones.

924
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:37.619
Yeah.

925
00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:39.119
Sorry, it was Clearwell Caves.

926
00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:40.739
Yeah, they are caves.

927
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:41.579
Yeah, that's cool.

928
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.760
I said to think it was the other one because the space is too

929
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:45.059
big.

930
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:50.219
Like, you know, the, the, Yeah, I think that the, the floor

931
00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:51.719
likewise, the floor so regular.

932
00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:54.659
Yeah, that's probably why I'm thinking it might have been a sense

933
00:36:54.659 --> 00:36:58.139
but yeah, because it's a cave that's been made.

934
00:36:58.139 --> 00:36:58.559
Yeah, yeah.

935
00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:59.940
Tourist walk.

936
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:00.599
Well, yeah, yeah.

937
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.280
It's been made safe for tourist walking.

938
00:37:02.340 --> 00:37:06.480
Also, it's a it's a, you know, giant rock spaceship.

939
00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:09.539
Suspend your disbelief for God's sake.

940
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:10.079
Okay, sorry.

941
00:37:11.820 --> 00:37:15.840
Well, why is the dog, why is the Tartus now a circus tent?

942
00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:16.619
mollusc.

943
00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:20.639
Someone's turned the light to the seahorse.

944
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.860
Someone's turned the lights up.

945
00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:27.539
Well, think about how yellow it was. in the last scene that we

946
00:37:27.539 --> 00:37:28.139
were in here.

947
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.840
That's a lovely pretty shell pink.

948
00:37:30.900 --> 00:37:31.559
Yeah.

949
00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:32.400
Yeah.

950
00:37:32.460 --> 00:37:38.400
Do you think that's because it's like it's the brand new light of

951
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:38.639
day?

952
00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:42.780
Like as in, you know, suddenly, 0 gosh, we're awake and we have to

953
00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:45.659
deal with the hangover.

954
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:46.440
Maybe.

955
00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:50.159
I get the impression that if we paid closer attention, we would

956
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.440
learn that different directors directed it.

957
00:37:52.500 --> 00:37:55.079
I had it lit in different ways.

958
00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:55.800
Oh, it is.

959
00:37:55.860 --> 00:37:56.159
Yeah.

960
00:37:59.219 --> 00:38:01.079
And for specific reasons.

961
00:38:01.139 --> 00:38:06.960
I mean, Russell talks about that in, um, What's his book called?

962
00:38:07.019 --> 00:38:08.159
The Writer's Tale.

963
00:38:08.219 --> 00:38:08.880
I'm pretty sure.

964
00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:10.559
Available at all good bookshops.

965
00:38:10.619 --> 00:38:12.900
And that there was a specific reason for it.

966
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:18.480
You know, they list it with, with, um, David, they listed it very

967
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:22.559
different way from, from Chris to try and make it.

968
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.079
Oh, good. buggering off again.

969
00:38:25.139 --> 00:38:29.280
Like in the same way they did with Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi.

970
00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:30.059
Yeah, yeah.

971
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.460
Well, they redesigned it for Capaldi, though.

972
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:33.000
Yeah.

973
00:38:33.059 --> 00:38:34.860
Put in more round things.

974
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:36.300
Love the round things.

975
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:43.980
It still looks like a giant ovapositor in space, that's not rose's

976
00:38:43.980 --> 00:38:44.460
mouth.

977
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:45.900
Mickey.

978
00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:46.860
The big mollusc.

979
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:51.840
Oh, it's not going to go well, do you?

980
00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:54.000
No, don't open the door, sweetie.

981
00:38:54.059 --> 00:38:55.199
No one look at the scanner.

982
00:38:55.260 --> 00:38:56.639
Oh.

983
00:38:57.179 --> 00:39:00.539
Oh, you see, they've got a telly instead of a scanner.

984
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:01.440
Back in the old days.

985
00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:02.579
This would never have happened.

986
00:39:03.659 --> 00:39:07.199
It does take her a while to notice that she's not on the estate

987
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:07.380
though.

988
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:13.079
I just love it's the fact that Chucky's tea and Mickey dropping

989
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:13.500
the tea.

990
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.079
Just assist the doctor.

991
00:39:16.139 --> 00:39:21.420
Like it's just, it's a series of, um, you know, coincidences or

992
00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:21.960
whatever.

993
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.119
Also, it's not a sort of space thing.

994
00:39:24.179 --> 00:39:25.079
Do you know what I mean?

995
00:39:25.139 --> 00:39:28.260
Like he gives it a kind of slightly sciency explanation, but he

996
00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:31.860
also says a nice good cup of tea, you know, and that's nice and

997
00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:33.840
that's sort of humane, you know.

998
00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:39.300
Oh, and look at this.

999
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.159
Look at what she calls Rose.

1000
00:39:41.219 --> 00:39:42.539
My precious.

1001
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.280
We've really given the compressor a workout.

1002
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:51.960
Sorry.

1003
00:39:55.380 --> 00:39:58.619
Why is there just this blue thing under?

1004
00:39:58.619 --> 00:40:00.119
It's a tea.

1005
00:40:00.179 --> 00:40:01.260
It's to reheat the tea.

1006
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.420
It's the t vaporiser.

1007
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:04.139
Yeah, yeah.

1008
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:06.599
Oh, doesn't he look young?

1009
00:40:06.659 --> 00:40:07.739
It's too much with his hair.

1010
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.019
How am I feeling about tenant?

1011
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:11.639
Well, I've already seen him do gurney.

1012
00:40:11.699 --> 00:40:14.460
No, it was refreshing anew and we loved him, didn't we?

1013
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.079
him from the 1st moment.

1014
00:40:16.139 --> 00:40:17.219
I think so.

1015
00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:21.599
I remember thinking, you know, that Eccleston is the kind of

1016
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.559
doctor you do when you're not sure of what's going to happen

1017
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:26.760
whether it's going to be good.

1018
00:40:26.820 --> 00:40:30.300
And once you know that it's huge, you can have a much more

1019
00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:31.260
traditional doctor.

1020
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.619
You can go for, you know, someone slightly zanier and gobier and

1021
00:40:37.619 --> 00:40:39.840
stuff and the audience is going to stay with you.

1022
00:40:39.900 --> 00:40:42.480
And I think that that will eventually have a bad effect on series

1023
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:42.840
two.

1024
00:40:42.900 --> 00:40:46.380
Yes, but at this moment, they were riding such a way.

1025
00:40:46.500 --> 00:40:46.980
Yeah.

1026
00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:50.820
And again, confidence is your best friend. certainly in the early

1027
00:40:50.820 --> 00:40:54.360
days of walking on the stage that the audience will believe

1028
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:55.019
anything you do.

1029
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:56.760
No, she's stepping up here.

1030
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:00.599
I always find it quite cringy when she strings all these things

1031
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.940
together because it's all like, oh, no, no.

1032
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.239
It's so embarrassing and she's trying her best to do it.

1033
00:41:06.300 --> 00:41:09.659
She's doing a really crap job of, you know, the doctor's big

1034
00:41:09.659 --> 00:41:13.679
speech at the end of, um, I know, it's a bit, don't fluff your

1035
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:14.280
lines.

1036
00:41:15.179 --> 00:41:18.960
But she didn't say she did say shadow thing because I'm going to

1037
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:20.940
get all nerdy and go, oh, yes, they've got power.

1038
00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:24.539
I always thought the Shadow Proclamation was a document.

1039
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.519
Yeah, well it should be, shouldn't it?

1040
00:41:26.579 --> 00:41:30.719
Yeah, but eventually it's those weirdo women who...

1041
00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:31.320
Yeah, yeah.

1042
00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:33.179
Who meet Donna in the stolen earth.

1043
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:34.440
Yeah, Okdravans.

1044
00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:35.099
Yeah.

1045
00:41:35.340 --> 00:41:38.099
Drive instead of really let themselves go.

1046
00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:39.960
Why haven't we got driving spec?

1047
00:41:40.019 --> 00:41:41.579
Moffatt mentions them.

1048
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:42.900
We're doing them now.

1049
00:41:43.500 --> 00:41:46.679
We've heard rumours, dear audience.

1050
00:41:46.739 --> 00:41:49.019
You might have seen the New Year's special by the time this comes

1051
00:41:49.019 --> 00:41:49.260
out.

1052
00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:50.639
No, you won't have.

1053
00:41:50.699 --> 00:41:55.199
My money's on it being Dardex for the new year.

1054
00:41:55.260 --> 00:41:56.820
Yeah, Bantral, so I'm going for.

1055
00:41:56.940 --> 00:42:00.119
Yeah, I just think if we're saying that Beeb has not been entirely

1056
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.280
delighted, although I don't see why they're not delighted by the

1057
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:03.179
viewing figures.

1058
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.780
What was what was Brendan's latest suggestion on day eight?

1059
00:42:06.780 --> 00:42:08.219
Oscar Botchobee.

1060
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:09.840
Oh.

1061
00:42:10.139 --> 00:42:13.019
You should really check that out on the YouTubes.

1062
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:14.880
Tubes of you.

1063
00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:15.840
Is he doing it on YouTube?

1064
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:17.159
Yes, he is.

1065
00:42:17.219 --> 00:42:17.940
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1066
00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:20.099
And now he's speaking English.

1067
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.559
And you see, I feel like a 90s kink party.

1068
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:26.699
And as she's working out and you're working at out, you kind of

1069
00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:27.659
realise, 0 my goodness.

1070
00:42:28.139 --> 00:42:29.519
Yeah.

1071
00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:34.500
And again, you know, like in case there, people at home who are

1072
00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:37.800
slower on the uptake than other people, it still gets explained.

1073
00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:39.059
It's fantastic.

1074
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.599
And now this shot with the music that's building.

1075
00:42:42.659 --> 00:42:44.219
Yeah, yeah.

1076
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.199
No, where they all turn around, don't they?

1077
00:42:46.260 --> 00:42:47.639
And then the camera moves, here it comes.

1078
00:42:47.699 --> 00:42:48.659
Yeah, they can.

1079
00:42:48.659 --> 00:42:49.440
She turns around.

1080
00:42:49.500 --> 00:42:51.179
Camera closes in.

1081
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:52.920
They get out of the way.

1082
00:42:52.980 --> 00:42:53.760
Ta-da.

1083
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:58.019
The problem with those Wincy pyjamas is there's no fly.

1084
00:42:58.380 --> 00:43:00.539
It's just a bit of string.

1085
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.519
Well, that's safe, isn't it?

1086
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.820
And he's been watching Buffy while he's been in the Tartars.

1087
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:06.480
Did you miss me?

1088
00:43:06.539 --> 00:43:08.579
Yes, very buffy.

1089
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.519
Where are we doing the Buffy podcast?

1090
00:43:11.579 --> 00:43:12.539
We are doing it now.

1091
00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:16.619
Oh, I've never noticed all that bakle light on the back wall as

1092
00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:16.800
well.

1093
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:18.900
So it's a theme.

1094
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:26.280
Oh, it is, this is your life.

1095
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.039
He's so happy as well.

1096
00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:33.599
Yeah, he sells happy so much better than Eccleston.

1097
00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:37.500
Well, I think he's been happy in his own personal life, you see.

1098
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.119
But I also think that the people here on set are happy now after

1099
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:46.500
last year's kind of cluster, you know, dumpster fire.

1100
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:47.400
Ginger?

1101
00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:48.840
Yeah, you're not the fire.

1102
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.079
Dobster.

1103
00:43:52.139 --> 00:43:52.920
We're not going there.

1104
00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:53.340
No.

1105
00:43:59.579 --> 00:44:05.340
And of course, he had been in Casanova with Russell T. Davis, which

1106
00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:06.480
is why he gets the job.

1107
00:44:06.539 --> 00:44:10.440
It's his audition piece for this in the way that the 2nd coming is

1108
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:11.880
for Eccleston.

1109
00:44:11.940 --> 00:44:18.239
And the reason that he's sexy in Casanova is the way he speaks.

1110
00:44:18.300 --> 00:44:21.900
Like he's he's just so confident and so goppy.

1111
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:26.760
Um, you know, and so in his 1st proper scene, that's all he does.

1112
00:44:26.820 --> 00:44:28.079
He just doesn't stop talking.

1113
00:44:28.139 --> 00:44:30.000
And he is super charming.

1114
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.099
Where did they get all their kit from?

1115
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:42.719
Does Eric Roberts advise them?

1116
00:44:43.139 --> 00:44:45.659
On wardrobe and symptoms.

1117
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:46.139
Yeah.

1118
00:44:46.139 --> 00:44:49.860
Oh, bless.

1119
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:50.880
What was that?

1120
00:44:53.940 --> 00:44:55.500
I don't know, is he?

1121
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.239
I don't think the audience has decided yet.

1122
00:44:57.780 --> 00:45:02.159
I do like the way Russell gives us real-time audience

1123
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.019
participation sussing out this.

1124
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.420
It really is perfectly written as an introduction piece.

1125
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.599
And introducing the idea that the doctor can change as well.

1126
00:45:09.659 --> 00:45:11.159
Because, of course, you're right.

1127
00:45:11.219 --> 00:45:12.659
There are people watching this if not.

1128
00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:13.619
No.

1129
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.119
They've never been through this.

1130
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:18.659
They know, they knew that Christopher Eckleston was the ninth

1131
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.880
doctor, but they never experienced what it's like.

1132
00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:24.840
Do you know my greatest disappointment for this episode so far is

1133
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.500
that this whole scene was used as the direct inspiration for

1134
00:45:28.500 --> 00:45:30.000
Jody's Tartar set?

1135
00:45:31.019 --> 00:45:34.800
You're a very observant man, Richard. true.

1136
00:45:34.860 --> 00:45:37.800
And it's, you know, probably something they might have wanted to

1137
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:38.280
reconsider.

1138
00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:40.019
Tasting blood, tasting dirt.

1139
00:45:40.139 --> 00:45:40.559
What's next?

1140
00:45:40.619 --> 00:45:41.519
Yeah, yeah.

1141
00:45:41.579 --> 00:45:43.500
Matt Smith does it as well.

1142
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.239
They're constantly licking and eating things.

1143
00:45:45.300 --> 00:45:48.179
Oh, he's been up for that for years, that mucky pop.

1144
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.880
I love this because I never saw it coming.

1145
00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:55.980
The big red button.

1146
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.519
Like, you know, having to, like, pushing the button.

1147
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.400
Yeah, it really is just a threat, you know?

1148
00:46:02.460 --> 00:46:03.179
Yeah.

1149
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:09.000
Yeah And again, it's because he knows what's going on.

1150
00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:10.440
Like, yeah.

1151
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:11.099
Yeah.

1152
00:46:11.340 --> 00:46:15.960
So he can come back and he Rose tries to talk her way out of it

1153
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.340
but fails, but he comes in and just immediately kills it.

1154
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:20.940
Yeah, yeah.

1155
00:46:21.059 --> 00:46:22.920
He's a doctor.

1156
00:46:23.219 --> 00:46:28.500
Yeah, he's not yet the doctor, like in traits and that sort of

1157
00:46:28.500 --> 00:46:29.880
thing, but he is the doctor doing what he's doing.

1158
00:46:29.940 --> 00:46:30.719
Yeah, yeah.

1159
00:46:30.780 --> 00:46:31.199
Yeah.

1160
00:46:31.260 --> 00:46:33.360
Well, we're still learning like what the doctors like.

1161
00:46:33.420 --> 00:46:37.320
But I think, you know, there are times later on where I will

1162
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:41.820
confess to saying that I find Tenant Shtick a bit tiresome

1163
00:46:41.820 --> 00:46:42.239
sometimes.

1164
00:46:42.300 --> 00:46:46.139
I think his performance gets more and more mannered the longer he

1165
00:46:46.139 --> 00:46:46.559
goes on.

1166
00:46:46.619 --> 00:46:47.820
He got bored.

1167
00:46:47.940 --> 00:46:48.659
Maybe.

1168
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:49.199
Yeah.

1169
00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:51.960
Although no true fan would ever get bored playing the doctor.

1170
00:46:52.019 --> 00:46:55.380
Well, yeah, but it's still an acting job, I think, you know.

1171
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.599
And he, you play it as another doctor.

1172
00:46:57.659 --> 00:47:01.980
Yeah I think I think that he does, he does so well here.

1173
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:03.599
Oh my god.

1174
00:47:03.659 --> 00:47:07.679
This is the 1st pop culture reference that the doctor has done

1175
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.420
since 1970.

1176
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:10.440
Really?

1177
00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:11.280
Don't you think?

1178
00:47:11.340 --> 00:47:12.780
This is it's a big call.

1179
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:14.400
I could be wrong.

1180
00:47:14.460 --> 00:47:15.300
It's hilarious.

1181
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.500
Because Pertry says, what did you expect a flying saucer with

1182
00:47:19.500 --> 00:47:20.519
Batman at the controls?

1183
00:47:20.579 --> 00:47:25.619
He does say that, but then but then Davison also channels Delia

1184
00:47:25.619 --> 00:47:28.500
Smith with those with a well-cooked meal.

1185
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:29.639
That's right.

1186
00:47:29.699 --> 00:47:33.179
But it is the 1st time the doctor refers to pop culture at all.

1187
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:34.860
Uh, doesn't Billy?

1188
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.500
No, but there are moments of it, aren't there?

1189
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:38.519
But it's interface.

1190
00:47:38.579 --> 00:47:40.139
Yeah, but no TV movies.

1191
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:41.460
None of the stuff that we're watching.

1192
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:44.760
You know, this is a new thing for the doctor to do. sustained all

1193
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:45.480
knowledge of this.

1194
00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:47.460
He'll do Shakespeare.

1195
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.320
He's going to do it again in about 5 minutes. is true.

1196
00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:53.159
Although Arthur Dent is real in this universe, isn't he?

1197
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.179
Yeah, yeah.

1198
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.219
Why is Earth still here, though?

1199
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:57.539
Point.

1200
00:47:58.619 --> 00:48:00.900
It's a multiverse.

1201
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.840
Earth still exists in...

1202
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.199
No, not at the end of, don't they collapse all of the earth and

1203
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.519
destroy them at the end of one of the books?

1204
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:10.199
It's great.

1205
00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:11.219
We have a sword fight here.

1206
00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:15.539
A la Pertwee or Tom.

1207
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.059
Yeah, Tom does that great one, which they forget to put any music

1208
00:48:18.059 --> 00:48:18.480
over.

1209
00:48:18.539 --> 00:48:21.000
That's right, in Androids of Tara.

1210
00:48:21.059 --> 00:48:21.719
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1211
00:48:21.780 --> 00:48:22.199
Yeah.

1212
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.099
But again, it's swashbuckling hero stuff.

1213
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:27.539
It's wonderful Ooh.

1214
00:48:30.659 --> 00:48:31.619
He is rude.

1215
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:33.300
His best is PJ's.

1216
00:48:34.139 --> 00:48:36.539
Thank God they've got them sewn up.

1217
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.460
That's what we think.

1218
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:41.400
The equal eyed viewer, however.

1219
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.380
This is great too.

1220
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.219
There's one incredibly great shot in this in this fight.

1221
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.699
That one where they're really tiny in the frame and there's

1222
00:48:53.699 --> 00:48:56.820
nothing but the sky behind them and they're moving along the

1223
00:48:56.820 --> 00:48:57.119
shot.

1224
00:48:57.179 --> 00:48:58.139
I think it's so good.

1225
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.739
All this can direct, although the shots are a little tight, but

1226
00:49:01.739 --> 00:49:02.460
yeah.

1227
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.579
No, I think whores is a really, really good director.

1228
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.820
We had him last year with the empty child, I think.

1229
00:49:12.539 --> 00:49:15.239
Oh, and a bit of slow-mo there.

1230
00:49:15.300 --> 00:49:17.940
Yeah. is underrunning.

1231
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:19.440
That's it.

1232
00:49:19.500 --> 00:49:21.599
By a second.

1233
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.880
Oh, I expect that to happen.

1234
00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:28.440
And it's never going to come back into play.

1235
00:49:28.500 --> 00:49:28.980
No.

1236
00:49:28.980 --> 00:49:29.519
Look at that.

1237
00:49:29.579 --> 00:49:30.659
No, they don't, do they?

1238
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:35.639
And my skin tone's been affected by it.

1239
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:36.900
I've gone off CGZ.

1240
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.400
This is very messianic.

1241
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.119
For someone who's so adamant.

1242
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.639
See, there he's talking and there's people behind him.

1243
00:49:47.699 --> 00:49:48.960
Right?

1244
00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:52.199
And then he's got no one behind him. there's a shock problem

1245
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:53.280
between that.

1246
00:49:53.340 --> 00:49:54.960
It's looking slightly up.

1247
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:56.639
I don't know.

1248
00:49:56.699 --> 00:49:57.719
I don't think that's right.

1249
00:49:57.780 --> 00:49:58.860
That's right.

1250
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.420
I love that.

1251
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.099
Catch the right end.

1252
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:08.579
Good.

1253
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:11.460
Oh, no, I've lost another hand.

1254
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.320
Let's regrow another one.

1255
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:18.420
Sylvester caught the right end of the red hot poker in the candy

1256
00:50:18.420 --> 00:50:18.659
kitchen.

1257
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:20.519
You're right.

1258
00:50:20.579 --> 00:50:22.860
This is a lovely little homage to silver as well.

1259
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:25.920
I can see silver doing all of this.

1260
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:27.059
But he's not doing the accent.

1261
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:28.139
No.

1262
00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:28.920
No, really?

1263
00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:29.340
he's not.

1264
00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:31.559
Which, in those days, you didn't have to.

1265
00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:34.619
Although, what did Russell say?

1266
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.920
You didn't want them ricocheting all the way up and down the M4?

1267
00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:38.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1268
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.639
Oh, they weren't going to do a tour of the regions with the

1269
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:42.239
various doctors.

1270
00:50:42.300 --> 00:50:44.340
I didn't know that it was Russell's idea.

1271
00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:47.699
As great as this is in the in a moment.

1272
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.880
I don't quite understand why they have this magic button that just

1273
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.539
happens to open up the edge of the spaceship to...

1274
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:55.260
It was just one of that.

1275
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:56.280
It was one of the hatches.

1276
00:50:56.340 --> 00:50:59.880
No, if you look at it, it's just on the on the edge near the near

1277
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:00.539
the airlock.

1278
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.059
So again, just like that one, it's just an airlock knob.

1279
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.559
I can forgive a knob.

1280
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.659
But you know, he makes stuff up, though.

1281
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:10.679
He's a fan boy.

1282
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:15.480
I think I've mentioned before his commentary with Moffat and

1283
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.159
Davies on...

1284
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:18.360
Is it Forrester of the Dead?

1285
00:51:18.420 --> 00:51:19.320
No, it's the 1st one.

1286
00:51:19.380 --> 00:51:20.880
So is a set Zuma?

1287
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.019
It's a Mandarin.

1288
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:23.039
Mandarin, okay.

1289
00:51:23.099 --> 00:51:27.300
And they mock Russell relentlessly.

1290
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.179
That's awesome.

1291
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.179
And there is... a little bit of Venio Morricone there too.

1292
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:40.619
So the no 2nd chances thing is foreshadowing what he's going to do

1293
00:51:40.619 --> 00:51:43.139
to Harriet. isn't it?

1294
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:44.579
Yeah, you know.

1295
00:51:44.699 --> 00:51:48.599
And then spend the next 4 years giving everybody 2nd chances.

1296
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:52.679
Yeah, well, sometimes he gives people 1st chances, but then he's

1297
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.420
quite happy for them to...

1298
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.960
And, you know, like again, we've mentioned series 11 a couple of

1299
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:03.179
times and clearly series 11 is a reaction against this kind of, you

1300
00:52:03.179 --> 00:52:09.960
know, arrogant judgemental version of the doctor. which, you know

1301
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:10.860
persists, I think.

1302
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.360
It did keep going back to that well.

1303
00:52:15.539 --> 00:52:17.460
Yeah, yeah.

1304
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.699
Oh, look.

1305
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:25.860
I do want to know, though, why they bugger off and not just whack

1306
00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:29.039
them dead, whack them all them dead, because really they're

1307
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:29.820
beastly aliens.

1308
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.820
Oh, but there is, they do talk about honour and stuff.

1309
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:33.539
Yeah, yeah.

1310
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:34.860
They're just Klingons.

1311
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:35.940
They're actually better than us.

1312
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:40.679
Well, yes, Achilles. straight after saying, I agree not to...

1313
00:52:40.739 --> 00:52:41.340
Yes, that's true.

1314
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:43.860
Adam gets a hug.

1315
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:44.880
Good point.

1316
00:52:45.900 --> 00:52:47.760
Oh, teeth.

1317
00:52:47.820 --> 00:52:50.340
Pearls, teeth, teeth, pearls.

1318
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:51.659
Oh, bless.

1319
00:52:51.659 --> 00:52:52.139
Plunk.

1320
00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:58.139
Uh...

1321
00:52:58.139 --> 00:52:59.039
Oh, enjoy the moment.

1322
00:52:59.099 --> 00:52:59.880
It's not going to last.

1323
00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:01.980
No, it's really, really not going to last.

1324
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.820
And is he goading her into doing it?

1325
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:12.059
This is the same speech that we get at the beginning of Spearhead

1326
00:53:12.059 --> 00:53:12.480
from Space?

1327
00:53:12.539 --> 00:53:13.619
It really is.

1328
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:14.400
Yeah.

1329
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:14.760
Yeah.

1330
00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:17.400
But like, why is he doing that?

1331
00:53:17.460 --> 00:53:18.480
What's it?

1332
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.039
Because that's another reason.

1333
00:53:20.099 --> 00:53:21.539
It is a trigger.

1334
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:22.980
Yeah, it is a true guy.

1335
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:23.940
And she responds to it.

1336
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.599
She says, you know, like, she says, look at her react.

1337
00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:29.280
But then look at him looking at her.

1338
00:53:29.340 --> 00:53:31.739
Like how are you going to react to this?

1339
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:33.420
He is trialling her.

1340
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:34.559
He's testing her.

1341
00:53:34.619 --> 00:53:36.659
It's a Caucasian chalk, you do it.

1342
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:38.760
Will you do it?

1343
00:53:38.820 --> 00:53:40.019
is basically what he's saying.

1344
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.980
And she lets him down, which is why he destroys her.

1345
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.639
Oh, Camille.

1346
00:53:50.699 --> 00:53:53.039
Doesn't he look like his action figure?

1347
00:53:55.980 --> 00:53:57.960
Oh, look.

1348
00:53:58.019 --> 00:54:00.059
And they all hug.

1349
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:01.559
Look, it's so beautiful.

1350
00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:02.699
Noel gets a hug.

1351
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:05.280
It's the changing then relationship from that point.

1352
00:54:05.340 --> 00:54:07.260
But have a look at this too.

1353
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:13.260
Like before she makes the decision, she looks over at them and

1354
00:54:13.260 --> 00:54:20.699
sees what she's excluding herself from, she knows that in order to

1355
00:54:20.699 --> 00:54:24.300
protect that, she has to make this decision, but she knows that

1356
00:54:24.300 --> 00:54:26.340
that means she's excluded from it as well.

1357
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:28.500
Like she's making...

1358
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:32.039
And also, he's done that in the past, the hypocrite.

1359
00:54:32.099 --> 00:54:32.820
Yeah, yeah.

1360
00:54:32.820 --> 00:54:35.340
She's so upset there.

1361
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:36.059
Yeah.

1362
00:54:36.059 --> 00:54:38.280
Zigons. magic word.

1363
00:54:38.340 --> 00:54:39.659
Look what you did to them, doctor.

1364
00:54:39.780 --> 00:54:41.880
Very happy to do so too.

1365
00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:45.420
It's the Death Star.

1366
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.360
Although I was shocked as a little boy, I have to say, because, you

1367
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.300
know, being a 1000000 years old, that does actually look quite

1368
00:54:51.300 --> 00:54:52.260
sexy on the Blu-ray.

1369
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:53.280
The planet killer?

1370
00:54:53.340 --> 00:54:54.239
Yes, that's the one.

1371
00:54:54.300 --> 00:54:55.019
But to.

1372
00:54:56.579 --> 00:54:59.159
And bodies, look, there are bodies.

1373
00:54:59.219 --> 00:54:59.699
Bodies?

1374
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:01.139
No, they're rock something?

1375
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.900
They did actually CG some bodies floating away.

1376
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:04.860
Yeah, yeah.

1377
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:10.320
Yeah.

1378
00:55:10.380 --> 00:55:11.400
Now.

1379
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.400
Wow.

1380
00:55:14.460 --> 00:55:17.519
And the great thing about it is too, that neither one of them's

1381
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:18.960
obviously right or wrong, I think.

1382
00:55:19.019 --> 00:55:23.219
I mean, the problem is too, that she starts off being better than

1383
00:55:23.219 --> 00:55:27.119
Tony Blair, you know, Russell kills Tony Blair for his support for

1384
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:32.159
the invasion of Iraq, um, and replaces him with her.

1385
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.559
And now she's Margaret Thatcher.

1386
00:55:34.619 --> 00:55:39.780
You know, bombing aircraft carriers as they retreat in the

1387
00:55:39.780 --> 00:55:41.280
Falklands War.

1388
00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:43.860
She doesn't she's exactly the right person to be in this job

1389
00:55:43.860 --> 00:55:45.539
because she doesn't want to be doing it.

1390
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:46.500
Yeah.

1391
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:50.400
And how easy for him, O war doctor of the future?

1392
00:55:50.460 --> 00:55:52.739
That's right, to say this now.

1393
00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:55.380
People in glass houses.

1394
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:56.099
Yes.

1395
00:55:56.099 --> 00:55:58.440
Glass turtles, so, so, so.

1396
00:55:58.559 --> 00:55:59.460
Another.

1397
00:55:59.460 --> 00:56:00.719
Oh, but then she got all.

1398
00:56:00.780 --> 00:56:04.139
No, actually, I think it's when she makes it personal.

1399
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.800
Yeah, but and then he gets all hissy and turny.

1400
00:56:07.860 --> 00:56:10.260
But if he has a bitchy little face, hasn't he?

1401
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:11.159
This is the bitchy doctor.

1402
00:56:11.219 --> 00:56:12.960
But look at the scene here.

1403
00:56:13.019 --> 00:56:15.599
Like if you look how it's acted and you didn't know what they were

1404
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:17.579
saying, who would the villain be?

1405
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:19.860
You know, it's clearly tenant.

1406
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.199
Like she's so sad. otherwise.

1407
00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:25.860
But yeah, no, it's 10 at 10 is the one that's being aggressive and

1408
00:56:25.860 --> 00:56:26.460
dominating.

1409
00:56:26.460 --> 00:56:28.199
His whole body language is hawk.

1410
00:56:28.260 --> 00:56:30.360
She's a good person that's made a poor decision.

1411
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.340
Maybe she's made a poor decision.

1412
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:33.179
Maybe, yeah.

1413
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.420
By the standards of this alien.

1414
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:40.619
Okay, I want to know which looks like Pat, who he tells?

1415
00:56:40.739 --> 00:56:42.239
Yeah, that's it.

1416
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.880
Then he gets on Facebook and tells all of his friends.

1417
00:56:44.940 --> 00:56:46.920
Don't you think Harriet looks tired?

1418
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:48.719
Like, how does that get out?

1419
00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:54.719
Or it's actually just her response to not knowing that creates the

1420
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:55.619
entire situation.

1421
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:59.400
She gets so stressed by it that she starts behaving around.

1422
00:56:59.460 --> 00:57:00.059
Oh, maybe.

1423
00:57:00.179 --> 00:57:01.679
So he never says anything.

1424
00:57:01.739 --> 00:57:03.840
Yeah I like that. keep that.

1425
00:57:03.900 --> 00:57:04.619
Just the whisper.

1426
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:05.219
Yeah.

1427
00:57:05.340 --> 00:57:07.019
Yeah, yeah.

1428
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.840
And I also like, too, I can bring it down with one word.

1429
00:57:09.900 --> 00:57:13.079
I don't believe you, but once he says 6 words and actually becomes

1430
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:13.679
believable.

1431
00:57:13.860 --> 00:57:15.960
And there she's just left.

1432
00:57:16.019 --> 00:57:17.460
See, he's walking off.

1433
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.199
Texting his mates.

1434
00:57:19.260 --> 00:57:20.039
Wardrobe.

1435
00:57:20.099 --> 00:57:21.780
Mary James wardrobe.

1436
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.719
In the novelisation, she sort of stumbled.

1437
00:57:24.780 --> 00:57:27.300
She stumbles after him screaming, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1438
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:27.840
Yeah.

1439
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:28.199
Yeah.

1440
00:57:28.260 --> 00:57:30.420
What's he going to do with that blue frock?

1441
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:31.860
He's got a lot of frock, hasn't he?

1442
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:32.460
Well, we know now.

1443
00:57:32.579 --> 00:57:33.179
Yeah, yeah.

1444
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:33.659
Yeah.

1445
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.480
Oh, it wouldn't have been lovely if he'd done a big Casanova?

1446
00:57:36.539 --> 00:57:36.900
No.

1447
00:57:36.900 --> 00:57:37.860
The Beatles.

1448
00:57:38.099 --> 00:57:42.059
Hugo's outfit from a twin dilemma.

1449
00:57:42.539 --> 00:57:44.519
Carving a turkey.

1450
00:57:44.579 --> 00:57:46.679
I love this so much.

1451
00:57:46.739 --> 00:57:51.539
I want you to interrupt everyone. absolutely fantastic.

1452
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:52.679
I do love song for 10.

1453
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:54.539
Yeah, yeah.

1454
00:57:54.539 --> 00:57:57.059
And he's doing, yeah, she got to have a Tom Scarf.

1455
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.400
Why don't we ever have songs anymore?

1456
00:57:59.460 --> 00:58:01.260
I loved it when Russell did it.

1457
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:04.260
We had like maybe 2 in the Moffatt era and they were such sort of

1458
00:58:04.260 --> 00:58:05.820
middle-aged white guys.

1459
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:07.380
Of those awful ties.

1460
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.059
Who has he ever worn a tie like?

1461
00:58:09.659 --> 00:58:11.579
Or covers.

1462
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.820
It's a good outfit.

1463
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:15.420
I think so too.

1464
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:15.960
Yeah.

1465
00:58:16.019 --> 00:58:16.739
Yeah.

1466
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.079
It's very designed, but I'm so young.

1467
00:58:19.139 --> 00:58:22.440
Yeah, it is ridiculously young, isn't it?

1468
00:58:22.500 --> 00:58:23.039
All that hair.

1469
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.980
He's only in his early 30s in this, isn't he?

1470
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.940
34?

1471
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.519
Yeah, something...

1472
00:58:29.579 --> 00:58:30.900
I think your room's 34.

1473
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:32.219
That's beautiful too, isn't it?

1474
00:58:32.340 --> 00:58:33.420
We didn't see enough of that.

1475
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:34.619
Oh, wow.

1476
00:58:34.619 --> 00:58:36.239
It's a console room with the green screen in the middle.

1477
00:58:36.300 --> 00:58:38.400
It's great to see another room.

1478
00:58:38.460 --> 00:58:39.000
Yep.

1479
00:58:39.059 --> 00:58:40.260
Oh, here she is.

1480
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:41.940
Oh, she's all recovered now.

1481
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:46.139
And she's just fancying him. that's right That's not going to end

1482
00:58:46.380 --> 00:58:46.860
well is it?

1483
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:52.380
And of course, this pays off. at the end of World War 3 where she

1484
00:58:52.380 --> 00:58:55.679
invites him to dinner with her family and he says, I don't do

1485
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:55.920
that.

1486
00:58:55.980 --> 00:59:00.900
And so there's, you know, this doctor isn't just a new actor.

1487
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.300
It's a character, like there's a character change.

1488
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.940
He's been he's been healed.

1489
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.219
Where are the stories coming from?

1490
00:59:08.579 --> 00:59:11.820
They also, um, the whole glasses thing.

1491
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:17.039
Um, they, in the book, it's because he's actually got bad

1492
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:17.639
eyesight.

1493
00:59:17.699 --> 00:59:21.719
Like they, um, who, was it Jenny Colgan?

1494
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:27.480
Yeah, she's like, he, he, he looked, he looked at the screen and

1495
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:28.440
it was a bit fuzzy.

1496
00:59:28.500 --> 00:59:29.699
That's odd.

1497
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:33.840
This is so beautiful in the snow and then...

1498
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:34.739
In the gnome.

1499
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:36.780
It's all burning.

1500
00:59:36.780 --> 00:59:38.340
The background there.

1501
00:59:39.539 --> 00:59:42.659
That's such a gloriously English thing, isn't it?

1502
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:43.619
The bad Christmas jumper.

1503
00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:45.840
I didn't know about those things.

1504
00:59:45.900 --> 00:59:49.320
Till last couple of years when everybody seems to have them.

1505
00:59:49.380 --> 00:59:51.900
Very Bridget Jones diary.

1506
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.760
And they're mostly Doctor Who ones now.

1507
00:59:53.820 --> 00:59:54.360
Yeah.

1508
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.119
It is a great little outfit.

1509
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:01.739
At the time, I thought, meh, but no, certainly seeing what we've

1510
01:00:01.739 --> 01:00:02.519
had since, I like it.

1511
01:00:02.579 --> 01:00:04.619
And he looks great in it too.

1512
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:10.199
Like even without the big coat, because he's so skinny, like it

1513
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:11.940
just looks like a...

1514
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:13.019
Yeah, scruffy mod.

1515
01:00:13.139 --> 01:00:14.099
Yeah.

1516
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.699
And again, you know, Russell always talks about having a distinct

1517
01:00:17.699 --> 01:00:19.980
silhouette for the doctor.

1518
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.380
You know, you should be able to know it's the doctor even, you

1519
01:00:22.380 --> 01:00:23.159
know, in long shot.

1520
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.199
Or in the dark.

1521
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:25.800
Or in the dark.

1522
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.860
I love Noel and Camille in the background.

1523
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.300
Talk, just watching him have that conversation about her going

1524
01:00:36.300 --> 01:00:36.719
with him.

1525
01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:37.440
Yeah.

1526
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:43.920
It's hard too, because Noel would have loved to have had

1527
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.300
continuing work on the series.

1528
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:45.960
You just know it.

1529
01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:48.900
Here I am sucking it up.

1530
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.659
Other offers I'm available for other offers.

1531
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.059
He's also such a bloody good actor.

1532
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:54.719
Yeah.

1533
01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:57.719
Oh, well, he's done tremendously well and absolutely deserves to

1534
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:02.400
have. his own lick back sticker set.

1535
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:07.139
Fans can adhere.

1536
01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:10.079
I love that detail as well Creepy hands.

1537
01:01:10.139 --> 01:01:12.179
He has got creepy child hands.

1538
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:13.800
He does.

1539
01:01:13.860 --> 01:01:15.480
Creepy, wrinkly child hands.

1540
01:01:16.739 --> 01:01:18.239
Teeth.

1541
01:01:19.860 --> 01:01:24.000
It's very Russell too, to have the beautiful meteors and the

1542
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.699
snowfall be, you know, burning up dead bodies.

1543
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:32.760
Like he's, he's sort of cynical and horrible deep down on some

1544
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:33.119
level.

1545
01:01:33.179 --> 01:01:34.380
Oh, yeah.

1546
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:34.739
Yeah.

1547
01:01:34.739 --> 01:01:35.280
Yeah.

1548
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:39.539
That way, let's get that way, let's smile at each other.

1549
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:40.920
Yes, hold hands.

1550
01:01:40.980 --> 01:01:42.059
Crane shot.

1551
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:46.500
Yeah, this is going to turn out well. one crane shot in this

1552
01:01:46.500 --> 01:01:48.179
episode, we can't afford to remount.

1553
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.500
Imagine that.

1554
01:01:52.500 --> 01:01:56.039
We're going to have a lot of fun this season, imagining what...

1555
01:01:56.039 --> 01:02:00.360
Sarah, imagining what it would have been like if we'd had Eccles

1556
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:01.139
for all of these.

1557
01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:03.659
Quite exciting.

1558
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.960
And some of them are quite late, didn't they?

1559
01:02:07.019 --> 01:02:10.079
Well, that was from like episode 11 or something.

1560
01:02:10.139 --> 01:02:14.159
I don't think Eccles would have sold the joy of working with

1561
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:18.900
Elizabeth Sladen. in the same way that because he wasn't a fan in

1562
01:02:18.900 --> 01:02:19.920
the way that DOVID was.

1563
01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:20.519
That's true.

1564
01:02:20.579 --> 01:02:24.840
Whereas, I'm in tears for half that episode because it's your

1565
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:25.500
childhood coming back.

1566
01:02:26.219 --> 01:02:29.400
Oh, that was gripping. awesome.

1567
01:02:29.460 --> 01:02:30.900
It was wonderful.

1568
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:31.559
Yeah.

1569
01:02:31.980 --> 01:02:34.860
Really great introduction to...

1570
01:02:34.860 --> 01:02:36.059
I don't remember that being so good.

1571
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:37.199
Yeah.

1572
01:02:37.260 --> 01:02:38.699
Yeah, it's rusty.

1573
01:02:38.699 --> 01:02:41.340
I remember at the time going, I want more of the doctor in this

1574
01:02:41.340 --> 01:02:45.059
than feeling a bit cheated, but I honestly feel now and have felt

1575
01:02:45.059 --> 01:02:48.840
over the years just the whole buildup and the little titbits and

1576
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:51.659
it's just what was required.

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01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:56.280
Yeah, and if you do it, you can't just do it for, you know, you

1578
01:02:56.280 --> 01:03:00.059
have to really go the whole hog and have him absent for like 40

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minutes or whatever.

1580
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You have to do it properly.

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So they give us enough of a taste at the beginning.

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So we get, you know, because we are watching to see what the new

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01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:10.559
doctor's going to be like.

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01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:15.300
So we did get that, but then keeping him off screen, I think, for

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the most of us, the right decision.

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I think we're gonna wind up.

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The 1st of many brilliantly excellent Christmas specials, so I

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01:03:26.340 --> 01:03:28.920
hope you're far less sober than we are.

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Well, dear listener, that's all we have time for this week.

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We'll be back next year with our coverage of series two, starting

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with new Earth.

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01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:41.280
If you want to hear our searing hot take on the New Year's Day

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01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:42.659
episode of Doctor Who.

1594
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.780
We plan to record and release a new episode of Jody into Terror

1595
01:03:45.780 --> 01:03:47.159
very soon after it airs.

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01:03:47.219 --> 01:03:50.880
So that's Jody Interterra.com, Jody Interterra on Apple Podcasts

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01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.099
and at Jody Interterra on Twitter.

1598
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:55.920
And don't forget, over on Bondfinger.

1599
01:03:55.980 --> 01:03:58.440
You can find commentaries on every film in the James Bond

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01:03:58.440 --> 01:03:59.039
franchise.

1601
01:03:59.099 --> 01:04:00.360
That's bondfinger.com.

1602
01:04:00.420 --> 01:04:03.719
Bondfinger on Facebook and Apple Podcast and at Bondfingercast on

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01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:07.019
Twitter, and we're hoping to bring you thrilling new Bondfinger

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01:04:07.019 --> 01:04:09.420
content sometime over the next few weeks.

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01:04:09.539 --> 01:04:13.619
Until next time, may you and your loved ones have a very Merry

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01:04:13.619 --> 01:04:16.860
Christmas and a delightful and prosperous New Year.

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01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:18.599
We'll see you in 2019.

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01:04:18.900 --> 01:04:21.059
Thank you very much for listening and good night.

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01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:22.320
See you soon.

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Good night.

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Stay warm.