WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 14:17:21 1 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:48.299 Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to Flight through Entirety, the only Doctor Who podcast that's overdosed horribly on Botox this week, and we'll be waiting in this Kage at the police station until it sorts itself out. 2 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:49.979 I'm Nathan. 3 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:50.759 I'm James. 4 00:00:50.820 --> 00:00:53.820 I'm Adam, and I'm a 405 line. 5 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:58.740 Joyce Grenfall, face suck off upper mooring mast for this one. as usual. 6 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:09.719 It's London 1953, which can only mean that it's time for a delightfully domestic celebration of privileged imperialism and aristocracy. 7 00:01:09.780 --> 00:01:14.579 So please join us as we gather round in the living room to watch the Idiot's Lantern. 8 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.400 So, Adam, David Tennant's hair. 9 00:01:26.459 --> 00:01:27.180 Yes or no? 10 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:28.379 Oh, no. 11 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.480 Like, I didn't, just all around. 12 00:01:30.540 --> 00:01:32.879 Like before the 50s and after. 13 00:01:34.500 --> 00:01:40.079 I haven't had hair since the 90s, so maybe it's jealous. none of us has, really. 14 00:01:40.140 --> 00:01:43.319 I actually found the Next Time trailer a bit of a relief. 15 00:01:43.379 --> 00:01:47.700 Well, although it was because I hadn't seen it in a few years. 16 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:52.019 Like, the next time trailer, I was like, I remember his hair being way more sticky uppy. 17 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:53.819 It looked flatter than I remembered. 18 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.219 It is unfortunate. 19 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.719 It's, yeah, it hasn't aged as well as some of the other parts of the show. 20 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:05.040 We would call them coxcombs in the period. 21 00:02:05.099 --> 00:02:06.120 Or DAs. 22 00:02:06.180 --> 00:02:07.319 Yeah, ducks arse head. 23 00:02:07.379 --> 00:02:09.060 DA's or Tony Curtis. 24 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:10.020 Yes, yeah. 25 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:10.620 So, yeah. 26 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:12.000 We're all Spartacus here. 27 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.020 Yeah, it's the whole period thing. 28 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:20.219 Don't. 29 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.259 Well, actually, this just comes to it down to. 30 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:26.280 Are we codifying bits of tenant or are we actually talking about how we receive tenant? 31 00:02:26.340 --> 00:02:27.240 back on that one again. 32 00:02:27.300 --> 00:02:29.520 We have received tenants. 33 00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:39.780 I think it will turn out that a lot of these episodes have us expressing reservations for tenants performance and there's plenty of it here. 34 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:41.219 There's a lot of it. 35 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:42.599 A lot of performance. 36 00:02:42.659 --> 00:02:43.740 Yeah, yeah. 37 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:45.419 A lot of teeth, a lot of face pulling. 38 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:50.340 Do you know what I found like towards the, like the back half of the episode. 39 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:56.699 I kind of realised that, you know what, not a lot of people are fans of season three. 40 00:02:56.759 --> 00:03:01.319 And I think Tenet is only as good as who we're standing next to. 41 00:03:01.379 --> 00:03:08.400 And the back half of this episode feels a bit, yeah, because Billy Piper's gone faceless into a cupboard. 42 00:03:08.460 --> 00:03:09.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 43 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:11.340 I think that was in David's contract. 44 00:03:11.819 --> 00:03:14.759 At least my faceless billion month. 45 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.199 Billy Musket off her face in the season. 46 00:03:19.259 --> 00:03:20.400 I have heard some stories. 47 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:22.680 Oh, yeah. 48 00:03:22.740 --> 00:03:24.419 That's big. 49 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:32.099 Yeah, I think he's only as good as who he's playing off against. 50 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:36.900 Like, I think he's a great straight man, but he's annoying. as the as the comedic. 51 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:40.919 No one's called him a cypher before, but I think you're really onto something. 52 00:03:40.979 --> 00:04:02.280 I think there's some problem and, you know, again, it'll come up again and again and again, but when he is doing that accent, I think, you know, he's an incredibly skilled actor and he's very good at accents, but I do think saddled with that accent and doing that voice means that there's rarely any sort of interiority. 53 00:04:02.340 --> 00:04:03.780 It all kind of surface, I think. 54 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:07.319 I think I think that's what he's like as an actor full stop. 55 00:04:07.379 --> 00:04:21.839 I think he's just one of these people that is really good at remembering their lines, not bumping into the furniture and, you know, whatever people see beneath the surface is, well, down to people who can see things beneath the surface that aren't there. 56 00:04:21.899 --> 00:04:22.439 Right. 57 00:04:22.500 --> 00:04:32.160 There's a reason a lot of teenage girls to, you know, who were teenagers at the time still have that palpable Tony Curtis Cliff Richard slash. 58 00:04:32.699 --> 00:04:40.439 That's one of the ironic parts of this episode is where he's like, oh, yeah, your mum would love Cliff and it's like, look who's talking. 59 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:49.079 When did you ever get tied off on a rope about Kenny Everett and slashed on TV? 60 00:04:49.139 --> 00:04:52.079 You would wish for such career hypes. 61 00:04:52.259 --> 00:04:59.279 But yeah, I think he's he's talented at what he does, but it's, um, yeah, I don't know. 62 00:04:59.339 --> 00:05:01.199 All the gurning and mucking around. 63 00:05:01.259 --> 00:05:05.040 It's especially after someone with the gravitas of Eccleston. 64 00:05:05.100 --> 00:05:07.920 And this is what we're only halfway through this season. 65 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:09.839 Yeah, exactly. 66 00:05:09.899 --> 00:05:16.139 Yeah, so it's, you know, we're just sort of coming to grips with who he is as the doctor. 67 00:05:16.139 --> 00:05:24.600 And, like, I loved him when he was on, but now I kind of, I don't know, I find I find it a little bit annoying. 68 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.120 I think I'm circling back around. 69 00:05:27.180 --> 00:05:32.579 I felt the same way I loved him when he was on and then I kind of thought maybe it's my least favourite performance from a modern doctor. 70 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:38.759 And now when I watch it often, but not always, I'm relieved that it's not as bad as I feared it was going to be. 71 00:05:38.819 --> 00:05:39.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 72 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:52.259 But certainly he gets one big kind of snarling hero moment where rose comes in, sort of faceless and now suddenly it's personal, you know, despite the fact that dozens of other people are sort of faceless in a cage at the police station. 73 00:05:54.540 --> 00:05:56.100 He was and he was all right with it. 74 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:00.240 And that performance is sort of that's upsettingly terrible, I think. 75 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:15.240 Look, I think Euroslin is a great director of action and like I love all the wacky angles and it's a great looking episode, but I don't think he's ever really chosen great guest stars. 76 00:06:15.300 --> 00:06:17.699 But they do have Roncook. 77 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:19.860 Yeah, no? 78 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.319 really like him. 79 00:06:22.379 --> 00:06:33.480 I like that he under pedals because what else can you do when you've got the tenant storm in the room, the oncoming whisper. then shouts. 80 00:06:33.540 --> 00:06:34.980 I'm coming back wrong. 81 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:36.540 I really, really do like Gronkook. 82 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.100 I've seen him on stage over in the UK. 83 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:39.360 He's amazing Yeah. 84 00:06:39.779 --> 00:06:41.339 I don't know. 85 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:43.500 I liked, look, I liked some of the performers. 86 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:45.420 I like Nan, but you know, she was gone very quickly. 87 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.839 She was Megan Jones in Fury from the Deep. 88 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:49.980 Oh wow. 89 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:50.519 Yeah. 90 00:06:51.180 --> 00:06:54.360 Is she old Nan from the Game of Thrones? 91 00:06:54.420 --> 00:06:55.199 Yes. 92 00:06:55.259 --> 00:06:55.740 Yes. 93 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.399 Who, yeah, who passed away and was eulogised in the 1st episode. 94 00:06:59.459 --> 00:07:00.600 Yeah. 95 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:00.959 Wow. 96 00:07:01.019 --> 00:07:02.459 Yeah, she's great. 97 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:03.660 I loved her. 98 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:07.920 Hey, I'd, like, Derek from EastEnders gives me the heroids though. 99 00:07:07.980 --> 00:07:09.000 That's Eddie Connolly? 100 00:07:09.060 --> 00:07:09.300 Yeah. 101 00:07:09.300 --> 00:07:09.720 Yeah. 102 00:07:09.779 --> 00:07:10.439 The dad. 103 00:07:10.500 --> 00:07:14.699 It's a really, really weirdly misjudged performance. 104 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:23.879 About time says that everyone's acting like they're in a different production apart from him who's acting like he's in a school play. 105 00:07:24.660 --> 00:07:28.800 It's like Samuel Beckett was 14 and writing the book. 106 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.600 And none of the characters are actually talking to each other. 107 00:07:30.660 --> 00:07:33.959 That's the problem I find, though, with modern pieces. 108 00:07:34.019 --> 00:07:41.639 You tell me what you think, that when they try and do a period piece of 20th century, especially the BBC, They get it totally wrong. 109 00:07:41.699 --> 00:07:43.259 Adventure in time and space. 110 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:54.660 Now, I love that we love the big finish audios, and you know we've got the wonderful David Bradley back doing those with the adventures in Spoon and whatever cast, but the lovely Gemma who plays Barbara. 111 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:56.639 There's no tonal variance. 112 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:57.120 It is. 113 00:07:57.180 --> 00:07:59.040 I'm doing this as an RP person. 114 00:07:59.100 --> 00:08:04.319 And she really, look, you know, just that is not what actors have ever been. 115 00:08:04.379 --> 00:08:06.000 We actually got more naturalism back then. 116 00:08:06.060 --> 00:08:07.800 I think it's kind of the same here. 117 00:08:07.860 --> 00:08:23.459 There haven't been any RP voices on the BBC, and on the radio anyway, since 2013, when they exorcised Charlotte Green, Charlotte Green, from the news quiz, whom the fabulous Jeremy Hardy described as Sonic Viagra. 118 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:29.339 And she was saying, you know, you don't hear people like me anymore, except on this podcast. 119 00:08:30.060 --> 00:08:31.379 Yeah. 120 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:37.019 So there is that sense of, oh no, we're performing rather than giving us some naturalism. 121 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:40.679 They actually get it more right when they go back to the 19th century than they do here. 122 00:08:40.740 --> 00:08:53.820 I think here he is a big problem because he's he's such a linchpin of the story that everyone's kind of, you know, thrown out of orbit by the fact that he's so off kilter. 123 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.159 It is really important, isn't it? 124 00:08:56.220 --> 00:08:59.159 And he nearly completely obscures the points of the story. 125 00:08:59.220 --> 00:09:02.580 And as you were saying before, Adam, and he's thin. 126 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.200 I mean, there's not that much to it. 127 00:09:04.259 --> 00:09:21.360 But it's clearly about that generation that went through the war and, you know, we're getting a new sunnier future, you know, the doctor says, and we're going to be moving into a more modern Britain than the 60s and things, and that's going to be sort of Tommy's generation. 128 00:09:21.419 --> 00:09:24.480 And he's kind of left behind. 129 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:32.220 And I think there's some room to have some sympathy with him, but he is such a horrible shouty character. 130 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.620 Obviously, the script's written for us to have sympathy with him. 131 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:47.279 Yeah, like when Tommy goes off to, you know, carries suitcase at the very end and it's like, oh, so we're meant to think that there was a human inside this over the top lunacy that's been going on. 132 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.340 Yeah, I think that like that's my biggest problem with it. 133 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.159 There are things I love about this episode, though. 134 00:09:53.220 --> 00:09:55.740 Anytime I see Maureen Lipman, I get excited. 135 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:57.360 She's so great. 136 00:09:57.419 --> 00:10:01.740 Well, you know, you know that she she wanted to be in it for ages. 137 00:10:01.740 --> 00:10:05.039 And you know her, have you seen her stick over there, her Joyce Grenfell readings? 138 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:06.419 Which is where I was coming home? 139 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:12.000 She's obsessed in an unnatural lady fashion with the works of Joyce Grenfall. 140 00:10:12.059 --> 00:10:17.279 So if you remember her from the, um, um, she wasn't ever in carry on, but she was in St. 141 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:17.940 Trinians. 142 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.220 Was it no, she was in the new carry-on, wasn't she? 143 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:21.779 The one with Julian Clary? 144 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:22.799 Carry on Columbus. 145 00:10:22.860 --> 00:10:23.820 She passed by then. 146 00:10:23.940 --> 00:10:25.740 Oh, Joyce Griffith. 147 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.059 I thought you were talking about Maureen Lipman. 148 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.340 Just the Olivia Coleman. 149 00:10:30.059 --> 00:10:41.700 But yeah, she does this lovely piece and she's done this stand-up thing for years reading Grenfell's poetry, which is very funny and very much about the constraints and about just pushing gently. 150 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:42.779 She was a Christian scientist. 151 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:43.740 Wow. 152 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:44.340 Oh wow. 153 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.379 Really darkly humid as you would be. 154 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:47.580 John Crawford. 155 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:52.320 I was a Christian scientist wasn't she? 156 00:10:52.379 --> 00:10:54.059 Oh God, this is everything to me. 157 00:10:55.019 --> 00:10:57.179 Explained so much. 158 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.279 They all were suffering with appendicitis. 159 00:10:59.580 --> 00:11:03.120 That's going to give you real grit to your performance. 160 00:11:03.179 --> 00:11:07.559 But she loves this period and she's quite obsessed with this whole notion. 161 00:11:07.620 --> 00:11:08.759 And the really telling thing. 162 00:11:08.820 --> 00:11:10.740 I'd like to hear Gatus talk about this. 163 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:12.659 You would never have had a Maureen Lippman. 164 00:11:12.659 --> 00:11:14.159 No. because she's too Jewish. 165 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.279 And pronunciation is actually still not quite right. 166 00:11:17.340 --> 00:11:20.700 Just because we're the kind of people that pick on that kind of thing. 167 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.419 But that, I suppose, as a meta thing, it's quite interesting. 168 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:31.559 I love Mark Gatas's writing, I just never get to see what it is on screen because 3 quarters of it, it's always cut out. 169 00:11:31.620 --> 00:11:34.919 So all the beautiful ideas and the richness of his text. 170 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:42.299 I thought the best production of one of his scripts was the most recent one, the Empress of Mars. 171 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.759 Like, that all felt like it was there. 172 00:11:44.820 --> 00:11:47.639 I saw everything that I was expecting. 173 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:59.100 Because there's like a moment where in this one where Tommy's talking, kind of implying that, you know, he might have feelings for people and you'd like, it's as neutral as that. 174 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.039 Yeah, like you're like, what is what are you saying? 175 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:07.860 You know, in the original script, Tommy was supposed to actually have a crush on the doctor. 176 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:08.820 There you go. 177 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:10.919 Adam was written for Eccleston as well. 178 00:12:10.980 --> 00:12:14.940 Yeah, that all makes sense. season from Series one. 179 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.460 I would have said Eccles would have minded. 180 00:12:18.179 --> 00:12:23.100 And there was going to be this whole, well, you just assume that I don't dance kind of conversation. 181 00:12:24.539 --> 00:12:26.820 You're assuming that I'm straight. 182 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:28.679 Which would have been brilliant. 183 00:12:28.740 --> 00:12:30.240 Yeah, but it was all cut. 184 00:12:30.299 --> 00:12:30.960 Yeah. 185 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.179 They had to turn down the gay agenda. 186 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:36.120 This is very gay to see still though, isn't it? 187 00:12:36.179 --> 00:12:36.779 Yeah it is. 188 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:42.779 I mean, sometimes with a gator script, I feel like I can see the whiteboard in from the meeting. 189 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.120 Like, okay, we want 50s, we want the coronation. 190 00:12:48.179 --> 00:12:49.980 We want blank faced people. 191 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:51.899 Maureen Lipman on television. 192 00:12:51.960 --> 00:13:02.039 It's like there's a checklist and the episode moves through the checklist ponderously and you get to the end and you're like, okay, well, we ticked off everything. 193 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:02.879 Did anything happen? 194 00:13:02.940 --> 00:13:04.379 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 195 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:05.700 But I did, yeah. 196 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:11.879 I like the writing of the kitchen sink drama, like in the house. like it was terribly performed. 197 00:13:11.940 --> 00:13:13.200 I thought the mum was okay. 198 00:13:13.259 --> 00:13:24.179 But the dad was so bad that everyone seemed to be, it was kind, you know, I don't know if you've ever performed with someone who's chewing the scenery, like most of the people who perform with me. 199 00:13:25.259 --> 00:13:31.320 You end up having to really temper your performance to deal with what they're doing. 200 00:13:31.379 --> 00:13:34.320 Like it's just you'd never really enjoy it. 201 00:13:34.379 --> 00:13:48.779 No one ever has a good time because it's like, well, we just have to work around this person because they can't take direction, they can't listen, or maybe the director was just like, oh, yeah, you just, I trust you to do what you're doing. which it feels like in this instance. like everyone was just doing whatever they felt like. 202 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:54.539 I wonder if that's eternal thing that's coming from tenant, and I could have been a lot cheekier with that, but I actually mean this seriously. 203 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.019 If other people are rising to the sort of level of artificiality. 204 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.360 He is the showrunner on screen anyway. 205 00:14:00.419 --> 00:14:07.559 Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess you do take your cues from the main actor, the star of the show. 206 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:20.220 But if anyone really knew what they were doing, they'd be taking their cues from Billy Piper, because the way the show has been set up in the modern era is that the doctor is the 2nd banana. 207 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:23.100 Like a doctor gets to do all the mucking around. 208 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:27.059 So our viewpoint character is the most normal one. 209 00:14:27.179 --> 00:14:32.820 Yeah. being Billy or Paul Freema or Catherine Tate. 210 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:42.960 And, you know, that was the beauty of casting someone like Catherine Tate, is that the doctor could occasionally be the viewpoint character, because she could be the lunatic for an episode and you could flip back and forth. 211 00:14:43.019 --> 00:14:47.100 But, yeah, I guess if you are taking your cues from a prize ham. 212 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.200 It's difficult not to put the glaze on. 213 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.120 And where are you placing the maraschino cherry? 214 00:14:54.419 --> 00:14:56.759 Right up the top. 215 00:14:58.259 --> 00:15:00.600 You look at... 216 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:01.559 You've really got me thinking. 217 00:15:01.620 --> 00:15:09.120 You look at how pert we would have played this, who really was a prize, poor scene, all of his years, and we're still doing navy luck. 218 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.679 And really over the top thing. when he came into Doctor Who. 219 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.240 I think he and Tennant's personality were probably not that different on set. 220 00:15:18.299 --> 00:15:21.720 You know, there is a sense of iron the entire room. 221 00:15:21.779 --> 00:15:24.659 We certainly hear that from folk who've worked on the thing. 222 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:34.259 Not a bad thing, simply the way the actors work, but pertly would have, I suspect, done a whole lot of sotto voce in this one, but might have been quite nice, especially the snarly scene. 223 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:39.779 Yeah, it feels like tenants taking his cues from, you know, Graham Williams era, Tom Baker. 224 00:15:39.899 --> 00:15:42.779 Yeah, no, I think that's it. 225 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:47.460 Because, I mean, trying to think of a Doctor Who does anger really well, and it is early Tom. 226 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:49.139 You know, he's terrific. 227 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.159 He's terrifying. 228 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.360 Also, when he's angry about something, like, just ludicrous. 229 00:15:54.419 --> 00:15:55.440 You're like, why are you angry about that? 230 00:15:58.500 --> 00:16:00.659 It's not something people get angry about, but whatever. 231 00:16:01.139 --> 00:16:03.419 You're out of space, man. 232 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:08.039 Yeah, no, it's almost certainly something that happened in the green room shortly earlier. 233 00:16:08.100 --> 00:16:09.299 Yeah, it was. 234 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:11.159 Someone nicked his fags. 235 00:16:11.820 --> 00:16:14.519 He'd been out of the pub for far too long. 236 00:16:14.580 --> 00:16:15.720 An hour. 237 00:16:24.779 --> 00:16:30.480 I had never noticed until now that they live on Florizel Street, which was the original name of Coronation Street. 238 00:16:30.539 --> 00:16:32.159 No. when it was in development. 239 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:34.259 And, you know, it's set during the coronation. 240 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:35.879 I'm like, oh, that is so cute. 241 00:16:35.940 --> 00:16:42.360 It's such a little, you know, a little delicious nugget that if you, you know, if you know coronation street. 242 00:16:42.419 --> 00:16:47.039 You're like, oh, Florizel Street, who was the prince from Sleeping Beauty, I think. 243 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:48.299 Oh I'm not sure. 244 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.519 That's what the, what's his face? 245 00:16:50.580 --> 00:16:57.600 Tony Warren named Coronation Street after Prince Florizel, because there was a picture on the wall and was like, oh, yeah, that'll do. 246 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:03.600 Pat Phoenix had played it naked on a cushion at the age of four. probably did. 247 00:17:04.019 --> 00:17:06.660 It's very gay-azy though, isn't it? 248 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.579 And that's why I love him. 249 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:13.259 Well, this whole thing is this sort of incredible love letter to early TV. 250 00:17:13.259 --> 00:17:20.700 And it says in the script that 1953 is the 1st time that something is watched by 1000000s and 1000000s of people. 251 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:25.980 It's really the birth of TV as a sort of popular medium. 252 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:36.420 And, you know, there's a sort of through line from that, obviously, to the fact that we're watching Doctor Who, the Doctor Who starts and Coronation Street starts, you know, just a very few years after this. 253 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:43.079 And what we do see on TV is sort of, apart from Muffin the Mule, obviously, is sort of... 254 00:17:43.140 --> 00:17:44.339 Which was early Jerry Anderson? 255 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:45.779 No, no. 256 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.819 Oh, no, he was the Torchy the Light boy. 257 00:17:48.059 --> 00:17:53.339 He owes his career to Roberta Tovey, who sounded exactly, was a singer. 258 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:55.259 It sounded exactly like the Dear Woman. 259 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:55.859 What was her name? 260 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.900 game with the name, who did muffin. 261 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:01.859 The mule went fat ever. forever. absolute... 262 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:02.519 Oh my lord. 263 00:18:02.579 --> 00:18:12.960 Also, it's very carry on to put muffin the mule in the script because it's basically terrible British slang now for crumpet. 264 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:23.519 Muffin the Mule is... has in later years become something other than a children's cartoon. 265 00:18:23.579 --> 00:18:24.900 With a puppet. 266 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.660 What do they do with Maureen Lippman? 267 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:29.039 Oh, too. 268 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.160 See, this is I got distracted before. 269 00:18:32.220 --> 00:18:34.319 Maureen Lippman I've loved for a very long time. 270 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:39.119 When I was a kid, I had like these tiny black and white television that I bought for $50. 271 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:41.339 I have exactly this story. 272 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:41.640 Keep going. 273 00:18:41.700 --> 00:18:42.539 Is it about agony? 274 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:42.960 Yes. 275 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:47.400 Watching it under the covers on a tiny black and white television. 276 00:18:47.460 --> 00:18:53.759 It was on very late. was on the ABC or something very late at night and it was just the most glorious show. 277 00:18:53.819 --> 00:18:55.740 There were gay people in it, which was exciting. 278 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:57.420 I was like, oh my god. 279 00:18:57.480 --> 00:18:59.400 There's gay people on the television. 280 00:18:59.460 --> 00:19:01.259 It's late at night. 281 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:03.119 So this is 80s, early 80s? 282 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:04.680 Very early. 283 00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:05.579 Yeah very early. 284 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:10.200 So it was on like, I think 11 o'clock or something, Friday night. 285 00:19:10.259 --> 00:19:15.000 She was an agony aunt at a newspaper, like she read an agony column for a newspaper. 286 00:19:15.059 --> 00:19:20.579 She's married to, I think, Simon Williams in the show from upstairs downstairs and obviously Doctor Who. 287 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:21.779 Junkie Gilmore. 288 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:31.680 She had like a sort of stoner musician friend called Andy Evil and like the 2 gay, the gay couple who were like the neighbours. 289 00:19:31.740 --> 00:19:35.099 That was the 1st gay people that I remember ever seeing on TV. 290 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:35.819 It was so good. 291 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:37.980 I've never been able to find it. 292 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:39.420 No, same. 293 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:46.140 And like, I remember there was an episode that completely destroyed me where when she gave birth. 294 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:46.980 Did you ever see that one? 295 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:47.880 I don't remember. 296 00:19:47.940 --> 00:19:57.779 Anyway, she has a baby and she names it after someone and like the husband comes in and goes, oh, we should call it so-and-so and she's like, oh, he'd love that. 297 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.660 And then she realises, oh, he's died, hasn't he? 298 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:01.740 And you're like, no. 299 00:20:02.940 --> 00:20:04.680 It is, yeah. 300 00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:06.720 He's taken an overdose. 301 00:20:06.779 --> 00:20:10.380 They try and wake him up in the shower and it's like, it's very funny and it's hilarious. 302 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:11.640 And then you get to the very end of the episode. 303 00:20:11.700 --> 00:20:14.819 You're like, you've just torn my heart out of my chest. 304 00:20:14.940 --> 00:20:16.259 I love it. 305 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:18.180 She was amazing. was really good. 306 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:19.319 And so I knew... 307 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.799 Sounds like a Russell T. Davies. really does, doesn't it? 308 00:20:22.859 --> 00:20:25.079 He would have like, I'm an old person. 309 00:20:25.140 --> 00:20:27.059 He would have probably been a teenager, but yeah. 310 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.039 Yeah, it was a long time ago. 311 00:20:29.099 --> 00:20:32.220 Also, they don't repeat things in England, so it would have been on and then never seen again. 312 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:33.839 But yeah, it was my favourite. 313 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:34.740 I loved it so much. 314 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:42.539 And she's, and then when I lived in the UK in the early 90s, she was on TV all the time, she did ads for BT, you know, their Telstra. 315 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:44.279 So she was always on the television. 316 00:20:44.339 --> 00:20:47.099 There was a sitcom called all at number 20. 317 00:20:47.579 --> 00:20:49.740 I want to say, something like that. something like that. 318 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:56.039 Yeah, I mean, I think she's marvellous, and I do remember being incredibly excited that she was going to do Doctor Who. 319 00:20:56.099 --> 00:20:57.720 And she's, of course, she's such a big star. 320 00:20:57.779 --> 00:20:58.920 Like she's huge. 321 00:20:58.980 --> 00:21:03.599 So yeah, it was very exciting, even though all of her scenes were done in a cupboard, like 3 books later. 322 00:21:03.660 --> 00:21:04.559 Yeah, yeah. 323 00:21:04.619 --> 00:21:06.240 In one morning. 324 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:09.779 They were actually filmed at Alexandra Palace. 325 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:10.440 Oh, wow. 326 00:21:10.500 --> 00:21:19.319 See, this is this is something that I feel with the old, older, now I love that we're talking about old Doctor Who and older Doctor Who. 327 00:21:19.380 --> 00:21:33.059 But with this series, like I feel like season 11 has done something that these were never really good at, which is explore the history of something and really give you a sense of what was happening, what was going on. 328 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:40.740 This you get a sense that, yes, the coronation was fun and yeah, it's at Alexandra Palace, but to find out any of that stuff, you have to go online and research it yourself. 329 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:42.119 Yeah, it was kind of background. 330 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.299 Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's like it's just colour. 331 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:53.759 But, you know, I have enjoyed that in season 11 when you get King James and the witch burning, you're like, oh, yeah, this is this is really what it was like. 332 00:21:53.819 --> 00:21:55.440 This is filling its original remix. 333 00:21:55.500 --> 00:21:57.359 Yeah, you're learning things. 334 00:21:57.420 --> 00:22:01.440 Whereas this, it's just like, oh, yeah, that's where they made TV and I'm like, what? 335 00:22:01.500 --> 00:22:02.160 Alexandra Palace? 336 00:22:02.220 --> 00:22:02.759 Why are they going? 337 00:22:02.819 --> 00:22:03.900 a big antenna there? 338 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:12.900 Like, it's, I don't know, I felt like it was giving lip service to history as opposed to like just really throwing us in the middle of it. 339 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:27.480 I think that series 11 is the 1st time that like Doctor Who doesn't do that, when it goes back to the past in the new era, it is, I think, about time calls it, kind of theme park, Britain, or Heritage Park, Britain, you know, where it just hits the beats. 340 00:22:27.539 --> 00:22:30.599 These are the things that we know about the 1950s. 341 00:22:30.660 --> 00:22:41.640 And because we don't know that much about the 1950s in Britain, we have to have all these sort of Elvis, Ed Sullivan references at the beginning just to put us in the right sort of time frame. weirdly inappropriate. 342 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:48.359 Also, I love that he he knows when they've gone to, but he's missed continents by quite... 343 00:22:48.420 --> 00:22:49.920 Well, it makes a change. 344 00:22:49.980 --> 00:22:57.359 Normally it's he's the wrong, you know, there's one digit wrong in the date, you know. like tooth and claw earlier in the year. 345 00:22:57.420 --> 00:22:58.920 It meant to be the 70s. 346 00:22:58.980 --> 00:23:05.160 The original the original script had Elvis in it. 347 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:11.099 Um, was set later um, during, like, the birth of... 348 00:23:11.099 --> 00:23:13.319 So, kind of, for 3 years later. 349 00:23:13.380 --> 00:23:18.180 And so the wire wasn't the wire. 350 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:19.980 It was a living song. 351 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:23.039 Oh, yeah, that's hard to dramatise. 352 00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:24.900 Oh, yeah, everything. 353 00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:28.980 You could have just been day and night chasing. 354 00:23:28.980 --> 00:23:33.420 See, this sounds like a virgin new adventure. 355 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:34.380 It really doesn't. 356 00:23:35.700 --> 00:23:38.759 It was called Mr. Sandman. 357 00:23:39.539 --> 00:23:40.740 Or Sonic. 358 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:42.480 Oh, that episode happened. 359 00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:46.259 It took it like 10 years. 360 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:53.460 And again, it was difficult to dramatise. yeah But he never lets something go. 361 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.059 No, his his recycle bin is obviously very full. 362 00:23:57.299 --> 00:23:59.279 Just delete it, mate. 363 00:24:00.420 --> 00:24:02.279 Build a bridge. 364 00:24:02.339 --> 00:24:02.819 Move on. 365 00:24:03.779 --> 00:24:07.259 But yeah, I liked that it was at the coronation. 366 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:14.880 Like, that gave me a sense, you know, but again, it's this has been a problem of many episodes this season. 367 00:24:14.940 --> 00:24:19.859 Like, you know, obviously you've got coming up the terrible 2012 Olympics. 368 00:24:19.980 --> 00:24:31.079 But yeah, like the coronation, you're like, oh, it was a big party and everyone was excited and it's like, it's a handful of people in a room watching TV and then it's a handful of people standing at a chess or table with some bunting. 369 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:34.200 All duplicated by CGI. 370 00:24:34.259 --> 00:24:38.099 There's lots of people who look identical to one another at the party. 371 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:42.299 It makes me think of that French and Saunders on the Titanic when they're... 372 00:24:42.299 --> 00:24:43.920 They're like told to don't do too much. 373 00:24:43.980 --> 00:24:45.779 They're like, I'm kind of away for baby. 374 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.200 Iceberg iceberg person, but they're dead baby. 375 00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:57.059 In fact, it pissed down at the coronation and all of the street parties were cancelled. 376 00:24:57.059 --> 00:24:58.799 Everyone was watching. 377 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:00.960 Thats why everyone remembers watching TV. 378 00:25:01.019 --> 00:25:11.220 Yeah, so that's another, you know, like, I feel like, you know, paying lip service to history, you miss out on the verisimilitude of what is what England was really like. 379 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:15.420 Like, bad enough you're filming it in Wales and trying to make it be London. 380 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:26.880 That, I believe, but then can't you go the extra step and I don't know, we could have done without Derek from EastEnders screaming at people and had a bit more excitement about the coronation. 381 00:25:26.940 --> 00:25:29.700 I did love that they had the actual coronation on the television. 382 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.059 Like that is a nightmare footage to get cleared. 383 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:34.259 Right, okay. 384 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:35.339 I know for a fact. 385 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:39.240 From having had contact with the palace. 386 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:44.519 For just a photo of mum in her chair. 387 00:25:44.700 --> 00:25:54.599 So yeah, it's, you know, I guess the BBC owns a decent copyright of it, but she's a fan. 388 00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:55.440 She is a fan. 389 00:25:55.500 --> 00:26:02.759 Apparently she got the series one box set for Christmas. in 2005 or something like that. took it up to Balmont. 390 00:26:03.299 --> 00:26:09.480 That's how I always feel a bit bad about tooth and claw where the doctor makes it very clear that they're all werewolves. 391 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:10.559 That's RTT. 392 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.599 She probably had a laugh, looked side eyes at Philip. 393 00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.740 Oh my God, I forgot the best story about Philip. 394 00:26:20.099 --> 00:26:22.079 Is it repeatable? 395 00:26:22.259 --> 00:26:28.200 He got lost in the River Caves ride at Sydney Lunar Park. 396 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.099 Which is a ride that you just sit in until the end. 397 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:33.180 Right. 398 00:26:33.299 --> 00:26:34.980 And he got off halfway through. 399 00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.200 And they could find his way out. 400 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.460 How gloriously, Philip, is that? 401 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.740 Getting lost on a ride, you don't get off. 402 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.299 Terrifying tiny children passing by. 403 00:26:48.420 --> 00:26:50.880 Oh, it was in... 404 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.400 It was in, I think, 45. 405 00:26:53.579 --> 00:26:55.259 So like it was, yeah, it was before. 406 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:59.160 Before, like it was a sign of things to come, obviously. 407 00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:01.200 Yeah, before he went quite, quite mad. 408 00:27:01.259 --> 00:27:01.680 Yeah. 409 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:02.039 Yeah. 410 00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:04.859 There's always one foot there, wasn't it? 411 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:05.460 Hell, yeah. 412 00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:06.599 I love him. 413 00:27:06.660 --> 00:27:28.859 He's ridiculous We talked about Britain and its the time and how it was reflected, but we're only seeing, as Russell likes to do, It's starting to grate on me that it's always so suburban. 414 00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:30.960 It's not even at the scale of urban. 415 00:27:31.019 --> 00:27:32.640 So there's a lot of other things happening. 416 00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:42.599 I've been reading again about Diana Dawes, the power that she had in 1953 is a bigger film star, more highly paid than a cabinet minister. 417 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:46.859 Looked like Marilyn Monroe, but actually was a star before Monroe. 418 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:48.240 They're all based on Gene Harlow. 419 00:27:48.299 --> 00:27:53.940 Well, and any drag queen, Rhonda, Virtual, any drag queen you would care to sign. 420 00:27:54.000 --> 00:28:07.200 So there was a polarity in Britain, that there were also figures of great height and silliness and and also a celebratory notion of, well, what do you want to call it, capitalism? 421 00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:08.640 Do you want to call it sexuality? 422 00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:16.140 Do you want to call it the burgeoning after the festival of Britain in 51 where I want to see a story set in that with a space needle in that? 423 00:28:16.140 --> 00:28:17.819 gorgeous. 424 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:21.000 And it looks like Dalek City, off the back of TV21. 425 00:28:21.180 --> 00:28:25.079 But yeah, so the scale that he always brings it down to. 426 00:28:25.140 --> 00:28:27.059 I get that because he loves it's a soap. 427 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.400 So, Doctor Who is now a soap, and admits to make it relatable. 428 00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:33.599 But again, look, this is my problem with Mark Gadis. 429 00:28:33.660 --> 00:28:37.019 It's being let loose in a lolly shop, but you've only got 30 seconds. 430 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:41.339 So you throw everything in the bag and then you've got to sit down and work out what's going to make it on screen. 431 00:28:41.460 --> 00:28:42.299 Adam said it. 432 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.519 I don't know that we ever actually get. 433 00:28:44.579 --> 00:28:47.339 Well, you get a lot of rumination afterwards, don't you? 434 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:48.839 Because you haven't really had a full feed. 435 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.440 So again, with this one, ironic, given how many times we hear the word hungry. 436 00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:53.039 Yeah, yeah. 437 00:28:55.259 --> 00:28:57.599 Paradise Towers again, isn't it? 438 00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:02.759 I think Paradise Towers is a lot more successful at actually setting a mood in a small environment. 439 00:29:02.819 --> 00:29:03.240 Thank you. 440 00:29:03.299 --> 00:29:05.759 Because that's exactly a parallel that I'd be looking at. 441 00:29:05.819 --> 00:29:08.279 I get much more of a sense of, it's J.G. Ballard. 442 00:29:08.339 --> 00:29:11.160 We talked about it, much more of a sense of world than I get here. 443 00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:28.740 Yeah, I mean, I kind of, I don't know, thinking about the kitchen sink drama part of it, like the, well, it's a lounge room sitting around the television drama, but the, you know, there's just a couple of moments where I was like, yeah, I get what's going on here, but you haven't really addressed why. 444 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:46.019 Like, there's a brief moment of I didn't fight a war for this, which is where, so men were emasculated by the fact that they came back from war and all the women were working and they all had jobs and they were all, you know, like John Crawford, Mildred Pierce was sort of the type of woman that was on screen. 445 00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:54.119 So they were replaced very quickly by a Diana Dawes and Marilyn Monroe's trying to make women seem subservient and keeping house. 446 00:29:54.180 --> 00:30:02.880 And, you know, women wouldn't have done that easily given that they had the run of the country for, you know, the last 5 or 6 years. 447 00:30:02.940 --> 00:30:11.099 So the fact that the woman is such a milk toast, like she just sort of puts up with this ranting, screaming behaviour. 448 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.640 So when she throws him out, it feels so out of character. 449 00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:19.980 I think that's a failure in not only performance, but writing because she has no dialogue. 450 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.740 Apart from, no, don't. 451 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:28.019 Like, she sounds like Jackie O. Stop it, guys. 452 00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.059 Kyle, you can't say that. 453 00:30:35.220 --> 00:30:38.940 I've got to cover my ass with the broadcasting authority. 454 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.759 There's no room on the sofa for anyone else. 455 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:46.440 But yeah, I think there was a reason for all this behaviour. 456 00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:51.539 There was a reason men were put at the head of the household all of a sudden and made the breadwinners. 457 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:57.539 Like that was the cultural necessity because there were all these men come back from war with no jobs to do. 458 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:03.420 So it was like, well, you go and do your wife's job. she can stay home and that was something that happened. 459 00:31:03.539 --> 00:31:10.380 But also this weird Union flag Union Jack business that comes out of nowhere. 460 00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:13.559 Like, I mean, it's it's fascinating and you learn something. 461 00:31:13.619 --> 00:31:17.160 You didn't know that last season when she was hanging from a barrack. 462 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:25.619 It's like when I found out the red ensign, the Australian red flag, that's only so flown at sea. 463 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:31.440 Before, you know, the craziness of the Australian flag, like either the red or blue were fine. 464 00:31:31.500 --> 00:31:33.299 You could fly them anywhere in Australia. 465 00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:34.319 They were both our flag. 466 00:31:34.380 --> 00:31:38.400 And then one day it was decided, yeah, the red one can just be for the sailors. 467 00:31:40.019 --> 00:31:42.720 I love finding out things about flags. 468 00:31:42.779 --> 00:31:44.700 Well, that line. 469 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:55.500 In fact, it's one of my favourite moments is where Billy yells at Mr. Connolly for, you know, only an idiot hangs the union flag upside down, which is just tremendously great. 470 00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:02.940 And then she sort of ducks out a frame and runs off as if, you know, she's going to be grabbed by a sort of a cartoon hunter or something. 471 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:06.180 Because there's a lot of Looney Tunes, Chuck Jones direction. 472 00:32:06.180 --> 00:32:07.980 Yeah, they're really troping the interrupt. 473 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:09.059 We said trope. 474 00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:10.980 That little, yeah, that. 475 00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:11.279 Yeah. 476 00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:12.779 I mean, that is sort of fun. 477 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:20.279 I think too, with Mr. Connolly's generation, they're about to be replaced culturally as well. 478 00:32:20.339 --> 00:32:23.579 And so he's looking into his own obsolescence, I think. 479 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:34.559 And you've got Tommy, and we've said before, Tommy's speech is like upsettingly vague and very on the nose as well. 480 00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:38.039 Like, just even the use of the word fascism to describe. 481 00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:44.220 I think what you're saying about it being set later is where that speech comes from, because that feels very out of place in 53. 482 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:44.819 Yeah. 483 00:32:44.819 --> 00:32:50.819 Like 53 was very much about conformity and that kind of change hadn't started to happen. 484 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:55.079 Like the kind of wave of youth feeling empowered. 485 00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:59.460 Like, you know, like they don't only just got out of of rationing. 486 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.319 So no one felt empowered. 487 00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:01.980 Everyone was hungry. 488 00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:07.920 Actually, that's a good point because Murray Gold's score is an acronistic. should not be coming in for another 4 years. 489 00:33:08.579 --> 00:33:11.220 They were listening just to listening to Sweet. 490 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:16.500 They were still, yeah. it was all it was all Sinatra and and and, you know, that kind of thing. 491 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:20.160 We have to wait until Vicki comes along for sort of proper youth culture. 492 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.400 That's really what we're looking forward to. 493 00:33:23.460 --> 00:33:29.039 But yeah, like the fact that the Beatles are 10 years off and he's talking like they've been around for 5 years. 494 00:33:29.099 --> 00:33:32.759 It feels very, you know, out of place. 495 00:33:32.819 --> 00:33:38.519 But yeah, I can see if it's, if it was written intending to be much later in the 50s or early 60s. 496 00:33:38.579 --> 00:33:42.839 And rock and roller didn't hit the UK until much later in the US as well. 497 00:33:42.900 --> 00:33:44.700 We had it earlier than they did. 498 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:45.119 Yeah. 499 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.920 Well, we're at very small country, and it takes telling 3 people about something for it to become important. 500 00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:50.460 It's huge. 501 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.819 There were actually only 3 people in the country. 502 00:33:53.819 --> 00:33:54.599 Yeah, that's true. 503 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.059 They were all menzies. 504 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.019 But yeah, I felt like it's just, I mean, we're analysing it to death. 505 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:08.159 It's a bit of fluff television and it's it's not the strongest episode in the season. 506 00:34:08.219 --> 00:34:15.480 And it has come off the back of a fairly powerful 2 parter, which has its own flaws. 507 00:34:15.539 --> 00:34:20.519 But yeah, it just feels like a, it's just like, oh, I don't know. 508 00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:22.800 It's like when you're in a plane waiting to land. 509 00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:28.199 I'm going to get to something good next because the next 2 episodes are amazing. 510 00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:28.800 Yeah. 511 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.420 Well, think about the long game. 512 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:41.460 That's where we were this time last year, which again, like ends up in retrospect, having more to do with the season, but like seemed at the time to be sort of filler. 513 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:45.420 I think this looks more interesting than that. 514 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:48.480 But there's really much less to it. 515 00:34:48.599 --> 00:35:03.420 I mean, yeah, the thing with the long game, though, is, and this is one of the problems with this episode, I think, is that the long game, you've got some of the best actors working in Britain. like Anna Maxwell Martin. you've got Simon Pegg, you... 516 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.460 Tams and Greg, for God's sake. 517 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:10.260 Just a little cameo. and what's her face that's now in Black Lightning. 518 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.900 And it's like, it's all about the performances and they're great performances. 519 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:28.380 Whereas all the performances in this, uh, just in search of something in the script that's not there, like looking for subtext that's not there, or obliterating it with shouting and carry on. 520 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:43.199 It's, I feel like this is probably the weakest Euros Lynn episode, and he's a great director of action and a director of the camera, but I think he's just, he does have fear her later in the year. 521 00:35:43.260 --> 00:35:50.519 Yeah, I know In fact, there was there was one time, I mean, they brought this forward in the running. 522 00:35:50.579 --> 00:35:56.880 They were nearly going to have, like, fear her and this, like, consecutively, and they're so similar. 523 00:35:56.940 --> 00:36:00.360 Like they both have, you know, angry, abusive fathers. 524 00:36:00.420 --> 00:36:07.500 They both have a big media event, which is going to cause sort of widespread havoc and chaos. 525 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.460 They have people translated into sort of some kind of visual medium. 526 00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.980 It ends with a big party in the street. 527 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:14.820 Like it's the same. 528 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:31.380 Also, it's the, I think both of these episodes we get to see why, why the tenant and Piper team is such a team, because when you take one part away, what's left is kind of just flapping around in the breeze. 529 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.900 Yeah, you have some time without the doctor, don't you? 530 00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:34.739 Yeah. 531 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:35.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 532 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:36.659 He turns into a drawing. 533 00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:37.079 Yeah. 534 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:38.820 So it is. 535 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.440 It's the reverse. 536 00:36:40.500 --> 00:36:44.099 Yeah, it's essentially the same story, but flipped around. 537 00:36:44.099 --> 00:36:50.159 And yeah, just as tenants quite annoying when Rose isn't around. 538 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.400 Yeah, Rose is quite annoying when the doctor's not around. 539 00:36:53.460 --> 00:36:59.639 I actually do think she gets a good moment in this episode, though, where, you know, she and the doctor are separated. 540 00:36:59.699 --> 00:37:08.519 He goes off to chase the police and she investigates the television, then does her funny line to Connolly and then goes and speaks to Mr. Magpie. 541 00:37:08.579 --> 00:37:11.519 Yeah, but that's this is what I mean though. 542 00:37:11.579 --> 00:37:19.559 Like, you know, when you've got them, they can be separate in the same episode because you'll cut back and forth between them and you, they're still both there. 543 00:37:19.619 --> 00:37:22.920 But when only one of them is in charge of the story. 544 00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:32.219 It's like, eh, like Tommy's meant to be being fulfilling the rose role and, you know, he's a nice enough kid, I'm sure, but he's a little bit dull. 545 00:37:32.460 --> 00:37:36.480 He's like 29 or something when he's... 546 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:42.000 I thought he was like a 30-year-old doing the sort of squeaky keen Simpsons. 547 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.880 I assume anyone attractive on television is 29. 548 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.000 Just to make me feel better about myself. 549 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.500 You know, they actually originally wanted Nicholas Holt to... 550 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:53.699 Oh, he'd have been grown. 551 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:54.599 Is he too young? 552 00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:55.800 He was too young at the time. 553 00:37:55.860 --> 00:37:58.500 He was 17 and he would have been playing a 17 year old. 554 00:37:58.619 --> 00:38:02.219 Oh, no, the 17 thing is more about the amount of days. 555 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.320 Yeah, because he's a minor and therefore. 556 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:05.579 Yeah, it wouldn't have worked. 557 00:38:05.579 --> 00:38:06.539 You're going to have a parent. 558 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:07.139 It's expensive. 559 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:07.800 Yeah. 560 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.579 It just wouldn't have worked with the amount you needed to be in the episode. 561 00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:11.880 Yeah. 562 00:38:11.940 --> 00:38:13.500 Oh, that's frustrating. 563 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:14.340 It would have been really good. 564 00:38:14.699 --> 00:38:18.119 Even up against Ed Connolly, though? 565 00:38:18.179 --> 00:38:19.019 Yeah. 566 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.500 Well, see, I reckon he, this is an, oh, no, maybe he couldn't. 567 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.440 I watched EastEnders a lot and there's a kid in that who is dreadful. 568 00:38:29.940 --> 00:38:32.579 And he's like a big theatre star. 569 00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:39.780 He's a great singer and he spent like a year doing episodes with Timothy West playing his grandfather. 570 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:45.059 And I'm like, how do you go to work every day with Timothy West and not learn anything. 571 00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:49.619 Like, he was just abominable. 572 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:55.679 I'm like, there is this powerhouse, this talented, incredible performer in front of you every day. 573 00:38:55.739 --> 00:39:01.800 And he's known to be generous on set, with younger, with ingenue performers, with ageing juveniles. 574 00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.219 No, he's really known to be generous. 575 00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:09.360 Yeah, this kid, other than filling out his jeans well, was doing that. 576 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.480 Have you heard the David Tennant, Jodie Whittaker podcast? 577 00:39:15.539 --> 00:39:18.360 David No. the podcast interviewing Jodie Whittaker. 578 00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:20.699 I worry about him doing a podcast. 579 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.199 Does anyone get a word? 580 00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:23.579 No, no, no, it's really good. 581 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.760 It's Olivia Coleman, then, will be Goldberg. 582 00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:30.300 And as we record, we've just had Jodie Whittaker. 583 00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:33.059 And she talks about working with Peter O'Toole, who... 584 00:39:33.179 --> 00:39:34.139 Oh, yes, when she was a kid. 585 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:42.239 Yeah, and she spent her whole time asking him what was it like to be in King Ralph talking about how great King Ralph was. 586 00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.300 And he was like, what? 587 00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.460 Oh dear, I love her even more. 588 00:39:53.099 --> 00:39:55.380 I've worked with Olivia. 589 00:39:55.739 --> 00:39:57.719 I don't care about it. 590 00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:03.900 But yeah, I think, I don't know, it's... 591 00:40:03.900 --> 00:40:07.260 He's like, yeah, he was not good at EastEnders. 592 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.039 He's very annoying. 593 00:40:11.219 --> 00:40:14.880 I want to say that the whole problem with the episode is him. 594 00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:17.400 And it radiates outwards. 595 00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:22.019 I think, too, that it kind of doesn't have much ambition to say anything. 596 00:40:22.019 --> 00:40:24.719 And Gatus does atmosphere. 597 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:37.559 And, you know, there's a very sort of league of gentlemen feel to the faceless grandma, you know, knocking on the floor upstairs, you know, like David upstairs in the local shop sort of thing and she's turned into a monster. 598 00:40:37.619 --> 00:40:38.579 We don't know what it is. 599 00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:42.539 I mean, that's super atmospheric and that works very well. 600 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.539 And they're set pieces, but there's nothing very much to say. 601 00:40:45.599 --> 00:41:06.780 And it is, you know, you've got this sort of central thing where television is becoming a mass, you know, a form of mass entertainment, which is going to change the landscape of the world and change, you know, people and you've got the grandmother warning us that it turns your brains to mush and makes them leak out of your ears. 602 00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:24.539 And if only it had had something to say about that, you know, like if the wire had been successful in some way, not taking people's faces or something, but, you know, if we'd had a sort of comedy beat at the end where the reason that we all sit staring at this thing for hours every day. 603 00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:27.179 She did much better when she moved to Baltimore and got her own show. 604 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.920 I mean, look, the Beta Max bit at the end. 605 00:41:31.980 --> 00:41:33.480 I found hilarious and cute. 606 00:41:33.659 --> 00:41:40.619 I like the label where he's written something in Gallifrey and on it and has crossed it out because he's taped something else. 607 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.780 Maybe she did succeed because Magpie Electricals exist. 608 00:41:45.780 --> 00:41:46.380 I know. 609 00:41:46.380 --> 00:41:47.039 Forever. 610 00:41:47.099 --> 00:41:48.059 I know. 611 00:41:48.059 --> 00:41:48.659 In the new series. 612 00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:56.699 I kind of like, that's another one of those weird things where the production team are doing something that the writers don't seem to notice or care about. 613 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.199 I think they bring it back about 6 or 7 times. 614 00:42:01.260 --> 00:42:02.400 Yeah, it keeps coming back. 615 00:42:02.460 --> 00:42:08.820 It works very well in the beast below because obviously that's, you know, theme park Britain heritage thing. 616 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:13.199 And they also write into the animation of Power of the Daleks. 617 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:14.039 Oh, yeah. 618 00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:17.039 But that's what I mean. 619 00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:18.480 It's like it's not written into these things. 620 00:42:18.539 --> 00:42:21.360 It's just kind of sticky taped on. 621 00:42:21.420 --> 00:42:25.679 But like, you know, the same orange jumpsuit being used for 14 things. 622 00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:26.940 It's like, oh yeah, we made one. 623 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.260 We'll keep using it and we'll keep the stupid logo on it that means it came from this place. 624 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.460 Even when someone's wearing it, that shoe and have the logo. 625 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:53.880 Yeah, there are a few times where I think the foot was off the pedal, especially in the Moffatt years where like he'd written the episode and he was happy to do interviews about the show, but I think he was very much not paying attention to the actual production as it was going on. 626 00:42:53.940 --> 00:42:57.900 In contrast with Russell, who all over it. 627 00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:06.840 Yeah, like, you know, that Russell wouldn't even let them, wouldn't let like a book or a big finish episode go out that was vaguely similar. 628 00:43:06.900 --> 00:43:14.760 Whereas, you know, you get Moffat episodes that you're like, this is the same plot as a thing I just listened to like 2 weeks ago. 629 00:43:14.820 --> 00:43:23.820 Well, this is the same plot as a thing from that book that, you know, that comic story and you're like, wouldn't you have said, oh, no to that? 630 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:25.019 If you'd read it. 631 00:43:25.739 --> 00:43:29.460 So it has meant that we've got some great big finish. 632 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:30.300 Oh, yeah. 633 00:43:30.300 --> 00:43:34.500 In the meantime. because he wasn't as controlling. 634 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:35.639 Yes. 635 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.260 Instead of getting, what was it? 636 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.739 Mr. Stream in that lost audio. 637 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:46.380 Like, it was supposed to be the master, the master and tractators, like, lost story that you finished it. 638 00:43:46.380 --> 00:43:48.420 And he was like, no, no, you can't have the master. 639 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.000 So the character is just called Mr. Stream. 640 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.280 I think or Professor Stream or something. 641 00:43:53.340 --> 00:43:55.260 Well, they could have just postponed. 642 00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:57.659 Yes. 643 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:03.000 Yeah, I mean, that, but I kind of like that Russell was that hands-on. 644 00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:11.219 Yeah, I just felt like there's being hands off and then, I don't know, I think the Metabulous thing was the thing that made me go, oh, yeah, you're not there. 645 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.980 See, my theory is busy over it, Sherlock. 646 00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:20.519 My theory is that John Pertley's doctor can't pronounce the names of planets, which is... 647 00:44:20.579 --> 00:44:21.300 That's it. 648 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.920 And so he gets metabolis wrong and he gets spiral on that. yeah that's right. 649 00:44:40.980 --> 00:44:49.679 I didn't think it was worth noting the return of the insufficiently executed villain from the dawn of time. 650 00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:54.539 They were a big staple, obviously, of the late 70s. 651 00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.260 It's our 1st one of the new series and there'll be another one next week. 652 00:44:58.320 --> 00:44:59.219 Oh, yeah. 653 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:07.079 Look, I have to say, I did enjoy the scariness of it. 654 00:45:07.139 --> 00:45:11.099 It's just that it didn't pay off with anything that's scary. 655 00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:11.699 Yeah. 656 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:16.139 Like the chanting of hungry, the face is being pulled into the television. 657 00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:24.000 All of that was really was really effective, but I want to be able to get to the end of the episode and be afraid to turn the television on. 658 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:24.599 Yeah. 659 00:45:24.659 --> 00:45:29.159 Whereas this I was like, meh, it's something that Doctor Who in this era does. 660 00:45:29.219 --> 00:45:36.480 I think I remember being tentative walking down the street not wanting to put my hand on any solo bins, you know, like after series one. 661 00:45:36.539 --> 00:45:38.880 And it should have done that, should it? 662 00:45:38.940 --> 00:45:40.320 It should have made kids to turn. 663 00:45:40.739 --> 00:45:46.500 It should be like the exploding bubble wrap, which I thought was ludicrous, but terrifying. 664 00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:52.920 And the same with, you know, well, I had the same problem with bubble wrap from Ark in Space. 665 00:45:53.400 --> 00:46:00.059 But also, like, just, you know, Moffatt managed to make us terrified of graveyards, statues. 666 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:07.559 Like, it's Doctor Who can be terrifying, make the mundane, terrifying, and we should all be afraid to turn the television on. 667 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:16.800 And it's almost like as a television show, that's a bold choice to make, but they kind of, yeah, I felt like it just didn't get there in the end. 668 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:46.440 Well, they listener, we've finally got our faces back, and they're all looking a bit hairy, and we remember. 669 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.019 So we'll be back next week to settle down with a mortgage and some carpets in the impossible planet. 670 00:46:52.139 --> 00:46:59.880 In the meantime, you can find us at FlightthroughEntirety.com, flights through entirety on Facebook and Apple Podcasts, and at FTE podcast on Twitter. 671 00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:06.300 You can also find more up-to-the-minute takes on Doctor Who at Jody Intaterra, which is at Jodyintaterra.com. 672 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.599 Jody interterra on Apple Podcasts and at Jody interterra on Twitter. 673 00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:18.659 And, of course, there's our James Bond commentary podcast, Bondfinger, which is at Bondfinger.com, Bondfinger on Facebook and Apple Podcasts. and at Bondfingercast on Twitter. 674 00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:20.400 Where can people find you, Adam? 675 00:47:20.460 --> 00:47:27.960 At Adam Richard on Twitter and the Instagram and fabulous Adam Richard on the Facebook, the faeces book. 676 00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:33.719 And I have a monthly newsletter that I've been writing monthly, supposedly. 677 00:47:34.980 --> 00:47:37.679 You can get like Adamricard.com. 678 00:47:37.739 --> 00:47:38.519 Brilliant. 679 00:47:38.579 --> 00:47:39.119 Awesome. 680 00:47:39.179 --> 00:47:40.380 All right. 681 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:44.699 Until next time, may all your evil nemeses be sufficiently executed enough. 682 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.380 Thank you very much for listening and good night. 683 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:46.980 Good night. 684 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:47.579 Bye. 685 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:56.760 That was Flight through Entirety, starring Nathan Bottomley, James Selwood, Richard Stone, and special guest star Adam Richard. 686 00:47:56.820 --> 00:48:00.539 Theme arrangement by Cameron Lamb, strings performance by Jane Orberg. 687 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:06.840 This episode, put a glaze on, was recorded on the 17th of February 2019 and released on the 28th of April. 688 00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:21.059 The wire was, undoubtedly, a particularly evil villain, but I can't help thinking that we'll all be really feeling her absence when it comes time for the coronation of King Charles III. 689 00:48:24.179 --> 00:48:25.980 Okay, I think that's good. 690 00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:27.360 It didn't get there in the end. 691 00:48:27.420 --> 00:48:28.800 That's the actually... 692 00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.119 Exactly. 693 00:48:30.179 --> 00:48:32.460 That's really our takeaway. 694 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:34.980 There's so much good stuff in it. 695 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:40.860 It just, you know, at the end, I'm like, oh, well, I've got some lolly rappers. don't feel the best afterwards. 696 00:48:44.940 --> 00:48:46.440 All right. 697 00:48:46.500 --> 00:48:47.099 What do you think? 698 00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:48.239 It's a really good one. 699 00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:51.539 It's a, that's probably the name of the I think it'll be fun. 700 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.360 I'm still thinking something about berinas. 701 00:48:57.420 --> 00:49:00.659 You can pop that in later when you do this asylum of the dart. 702 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.820 Marina and the Dale. 703 00:49:02.820 --> 00:49:05.880 Marina and the Dale. 704 00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:07.320 Sorry. 705 00:49:07.500 --> 00:49:09.780 Delta and the Barina. 706 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:10.320 No, sorry. 707 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:12.780 Okay. 708 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.920 So, yeah, the title would probably be something you said. 709 00:49:16.980 --> 00:49:18.119 Oh, don't Yeah, no. 710 00:49:18.179 --> 00:49:24.059 It's usually something the guest, the guest says, at least on their 1st view. 711 00:49:24.179 --> 00:49:25.320 Did you use the seatball? 712 00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:26.820 No, that was you. 713 00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.400 Thus evil. 714 00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:31.800 There you go. 715 00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.199 I didn't use the scene. 716 00:49:34.380 --> 00:49:36.360 What, coronation? 717 00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.159 Yeah, I do say coronation. 718 00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:40.440 I love Florence El Street. 719 00:49:40.500 --> 00:49:44.699 If you ever want to watch, it's far superior to an adventure in time and space. 720 00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.760 The road to Coronation Street is a brilliant. 721 00:49:48.059 --> 00:49:49.920 I have it on my... the same kind of thing. 722 00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:50.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 723 00:49:50.820 --> 00:49:54.059 It's about Tony Warren creating Coronation Street. 724 00:49:54.179 --> 00:49:54.659 And it is. 725 00:49:54.659 --> 00:50:02.519 And it's got Cat Slainer from EastEnders as Pat Phoenix and she is brilliant. 726 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.260 And Enos Sharples is old, mate, from open all hours. 727 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.599 Oh, not Linda Berlin? 728 00:50:09.659 --> 00:50:09.840 Yes. 729 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:10.440 Linda Barron. 730 00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:11.940 Well, we own her. 731 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:12.719 The other baron. 732 00:50:12.780 --> 00:50:14.760 The other one. we own. 733 00:50:14.820 --> 00:50:15.179 We own. 734 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:15.780 Yeah, 3 times. 735 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.079 When was the last time we watched the Gunfighters? 736 00:50:19.139 --> 00:50:21.300 Because, you know, she sings, she's in action. 737 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.280 Yeah, yeah, she sings the theme. not really funny. 738 00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:24.360 It's great. 739 00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:25.380 Oh, no, it's superb. 740 00:50:26.219 --> 00:50:29.519 Dodo's hat of accents. 741 00:50:29.579 --> 00:50:30.420 Yeah. 742 00:50:30.420 --> 00:50:32.820 I think she's Dota's at her best in that one. 743 00:50:32.820 --> 00:50:33.960 That is her best one, I think. 744 00:50:34.019 --> 00:50:35.039 Do you know what I've noticed? 745 00:50:35.099 --> 00:50:37.860 I've been watching Game of Thrones from the beginning with the other half. 746 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:45.360 And I had never realised that, um, oh, mate, little finger from queer folk. 747 00:50:45.420 --> 00:50:46.920 He... 748 00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:48.059 Gillan? 749 00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.699 Gillan, he dips into the hat of accents. 750 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.980 Like when you're watching week to week, it's fine. 751 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.719 When you're watching more than one back to back, you're like, oh, you're from somewhere different this way. 752 00:50:57.780 --> 00:51:00.719 Like, he's like, he's all over. 753 00:51:00.780 --> 00:51:03.300 One moment, one moment, he's from Manchester. 754 00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:04.559 The next moment he's from Wales. 755 00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:06.179 Seriously. 756 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:07.500 But isn't he Irish, actually? 757 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:08.699 Yeah, in reality? 758 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:09.000 Yeah. 759 00:51:09.059 --> 00:51:10.559 So, yeah, one way. 760 00:51:10.619 --> 00:51:16.679 Yeah, he's he's seriously, he moves around. was the thing? 761 00:51:16.739 --> 00:51:19.619 rattling up and down the end. 762 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:26.940 That reminds me of, um, it's, uh, when Pierce Brosnan says to Mrs. Duff, your accent's a bit muddled. 763 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:27.960 Oh, yes, like you're tan. 764 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.539 There should be someone on set, always saying that to Pierce.