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Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to Flight through Entirety

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the only Doctor Who podcast that can carry off a decorative

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vegetable.

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Well, maybe not the only one.

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I'm Nathan.

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I'm James.

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I'm Stephen.

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I'm Dan.

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Well, we've just said goodbye to Martha, and we're still a couple

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of days away from Kylie.

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So we've decided to stand around in the console room for a few

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minutes and remind ourselves how much we all love Peter Davidson.

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Keep your hats on, please.

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It's time crash.

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We've never actually really done one of these before.

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There has been one earlier children in need special, obviously

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just between the end of Series 1 and the Christmas invasion.

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Only one children in need special.

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Oh, really?

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Were there other ones?

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The 5 doctors.

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Oh, no.

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That was a really long, really special.

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That doesn't count.

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And so this aired on the sort of 17th of November, 2007.

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No, the 16th of November 2007.

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Oh, you know, I don't believe in time zones.

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And so last of the time lords was sort of end of June. that

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right?

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Or was it end of July, James?

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Okay.

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So, um, Great start.

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So what did you guys think of this?

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I had no idea it was coming for one thing, and I don't even know

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how I found out about it, and I don't know that I watched it on

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TV.

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I must have watched it on the internet.

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I've never been able to find a good way to watch it, but it just

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yeah, I was so surprised and so pleased.

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And as it goes through, it's just, I think it's just really fun.

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I really enjoyed it.

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And then they didn't even need that really lovely tear jerk a bit

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at the end where he tells him he's his doctor and I just loved

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it.

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It makes me moisten up every time.

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What about you, Stephen?

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So, as you can imagine, I keep saying on you to who, that Davison

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was my doctor, out of choice as an adolescent.

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And like Dan, I didn't know this was coming.

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I didn't even know that Davis was in it.

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This is obviously in the day before Twitter and definitely in the

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days before, you know, I dipped into fandom in any real way.

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So when things like this dropped, including, for instance, the

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Eccleston regeneration, I had no idea, I was totally unspoiled.

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So, to see, to see this and to see my favourite doctor, again, I

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couldn't tell you how much my Fannish heart squealed.

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It was just wonderful moment in time.

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It is super exciting.

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You know, Dan, you can actually watch it.

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When I was looking at the DVD, the series 4 DVD.

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DVD and the Blu-ray.

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Yeah, has time crush on it.

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It is preserved and our listeners can watch it themselves if they

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didn't catch it the 1st time.

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It is very much a sort of children in need special, isn't it?

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I mean, you know, it's it's 2 actors in the standing set with sort

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of very minimal kind of special effects or anything.

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James looks like you're bitching to say something.

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I was going to do some of your shtick.

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Um, so, I was reading um, Titus Ruditorum.

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And I thought El Santa for made a really good point, which was

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that it's like this story is an exquisitely crafted 8 minute

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sketch that works well both for people who remember the Davidson

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era.

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And for people who don't give a crap about Doctor Who. what actual

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women need.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's Moffat, isn't it?

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Like, I always sort of think that Russell's better at TV than

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Moffat in many ways in the sense that he's better at kind of

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creating something with mass audience appeal.

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But he does a very, very good job.

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I think of pitching it both for us and for the not where.

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Yeah, I think, I think the sort of the time travel, like, it's, I

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think it's, they make it pretty clear what's going on pretty

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quickly.

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Like, uh, you know, um, Tennant knows what's going on and Davison

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seems like blissfully ignorant for a few minutes.

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And then they sort of, uh, they they solve the crisis with a

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little bit of like time travel cleverness.

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Nothing like super heavy, but like a nice, simple RTD, like neat

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and tidy, understandable little time travel timey-wamey.

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And I just think it's so clever and so neat and it all gets tied

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up in a little bow.

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I think it's and it's, yeah, it's really cute.

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I had to sort of reread a transcript of it to actually work out

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like even though I've seen it a bunch of times, to actually work

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out what the threat is.

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You know what I mean?

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It's 2 tartises, right?

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It's just they've just bumped into each other or something.

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It's a whole the size of Belgium.

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Yes, no, I knew it was going to blow a hole in the universe size

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of Belgium.

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I just didn't quite know why.

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I do love Hitchhiker's Guide reference.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They're poorly engineered, though, these TARDIS, aren't they?

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Imagine if you blew a hole in the universe the size of Belgium

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every time you rear-ended someone, you know.

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And the way it's solved is something that Moffatt will, as is

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won't, use, again, isn't it the way that the day of the doctor is

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solved?

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Yeah, I was thinking this.

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I was actually listening to the red novelisation by Nick Briggs at

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that just the other week and it's exactly the same trick, right?

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So how do we know, or how does the doctor know that, you know, he

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has to press this boothbos Libra or whatever the case is, he

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really makes it?

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It's, uh, it's a massive cheat, but it gets away with it, even

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from like my nerdish fan sort of perspective because it makes

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sense in many ways.

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Like, if the tenant doctor doesn't remember until the Davidson

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doctor shows up, right?

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So it's not like he's in my head anyway, like walked around with

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this knowledge for, you know, 5 regenerations or whatever it is.

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It's not until he appears.

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And the Davidson doctor doesn't remember because at the moment he

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disappears, it sort of murders into the 10th doctor's timeline.

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So there's that sort of crap science around, you know, paradoxes

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and whatever else that I think the general audience can handle.

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But in the same way that he pulls the trick off in day at the

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doctor, he does the same thing here.

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And it also satisfies, you know, the hardcore nerds and their

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obsession with continuity. amazingly clever.

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I also like the way he deploys that in order to explain why

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Davison sort of fatter and balder than...

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And Wayne Colin Baker's costume.

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Is he really?

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From the regeneration, yeah.

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The extra material in the back.

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In my head, they just don't remember because they've got there's

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so much stuff happens in their life and they've got so many things

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to remember.

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And neither of them knows when it's going to happen.

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So he's just like, eh, that'll come around.

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Oh, remember at the time.

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Yeah, yeah, Davison appearing sort of jogs his memory and stuff.

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And then, uh, whether or not the science of it works, it just

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feels like a really nice Russell kind of, uh, just, just, just

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just enjoy it.

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Don't worry about it.

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It's really, it's great.

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Just going to wave my hands over here a bit.

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Where do we think this takes place for the 5th doctor then?

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Oh, no, he says he's travelling with this or in Tegan.

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Does he?

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He asks whether he's at.

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Like, there's 10 stop to ask.

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Tenant asks him.

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He doesn't answer.

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Then they go straight.

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They go straight to the master beard joke, which I think is

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possibly my favourite thing about the entire Doctor Whoever.

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And, you know, from a straight man that I appreciate that from

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Moffat. pretty good.

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I remember what the 1st time I saw it, I laughed so hard when he

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said, has he still got that rubbish beard?

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And I just thought that was so funny alone.

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And then when Tenant says, no, no, no.

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And I was like, that's the end.

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He's like, well, a wife, I just lost my wife.

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It's so good And it moves on so quickly, like it's just a little

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dig.

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I love it.

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What do we think about the music?

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There's that little Davis era stab when he's when he's figuring

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out what's going on.

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I didn't even know, I've seen it so many times, and I don't think

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I even noticed it until the last time, there's just like a little

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bit of Eddie Sinth when he's figuring out what's happening and

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it's lovely.

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Oh, yes, they're...

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I think it's a direct quote from something.

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Like, I don't think they're doing it.

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I think it is a direct quote from a...

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No, no, it's a Davison episode.

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Yeah, they've picked up the incidental music, done some filtering

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on it and sort of plonked in there.

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Yeah, I should be able to recognise it.

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And then it goes back to Murray at the end.

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Obviously, they give Murray the sort of big emotional thing.

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But I think that may even be using music cues from series 3.

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Like, I don't think they're going to hurry into, you know, bring

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the BBC orchestra in to do it.

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Yeah, do some music from probably, I think last of the time

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locks.

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Yeah, yeah. think so.

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Do you guys think it's just like 20 people in a room on a Sunday?

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making it?

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think so.

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But you know, they do give it more love than it needed to have.

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I mean, if you look at this year's children in need, which I just

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thought was beautiful where did you guys see it?

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So this is where Jody and who else is it?

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So it's Mandeep and Tosin and Jody.

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And they've got a little girl on stage who's who's sort of talking

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to them on like they're huge on this big screen.

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America, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. in America shooting and then the sort of screen opens

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and then they come out and the little girl goes crazy and stuff

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and it's all like and they only needed to do that.

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And there's a Matt Smith one, isn't there, where he's sort of

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changing clothes and you see how hairy his back is, which is sort

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of surprising and a bit.

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I'm searching in what way?

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I don't know.

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In my pants.

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But, you know, that's all you'd need to do.

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And so the idea that they give it, you know, like a title and

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opening credits and they put Peter Davison in the opening credits

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and they make it like they sell it as a proper episode, I think.

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And I think that's lovely.

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Yeah.

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I had no idea that the little girl thing was a children in need.

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That made me like, I lost it when I watched that.

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It was just so adorable.

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You could tell how much Jody loved it, how much she enjoyed it.

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It made you moisten up.

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Oh, big time.

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Oh, it's just like, there was a puddle.

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Huge puddle.

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So Graham Harper's directing?

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Yeah, yeah, this is Graham Harper.

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Oh, okay, all right.

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So that's, again, you know, they're giving it more love than it

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really needs to have or really, you know, absolutely need it.

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It's much better than it ought to be.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They can get away with something a lot less elaborate and a lot

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less kind of pseudo-canonical.

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I also like too, that they do try and make it a proper episode.

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Like it ends with the, you know, the end of Last of the Time

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Lords.

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Or, you know, it clearly takes place in between sort of

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heartbeats.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Something weird happens with it.

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Such a beautiful little cheat, isn't it?

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So like go from the end to the last of the time lords where you

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see the Titanic crashing through and you're expecting, obviously

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you know, to go into for each of the time, but obviously this is

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sort of like a sneak little cutaway, but it also hearkens back to

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the beginning of series 3, doesn't it, with the runaway bride?

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And it's just like a lovely, uh, yeah, just, you know, Moffatt

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obviously, sort of playing with the, the narrative sort of

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structures of Doctor Who, when hearkening back to, um, to, you

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know, previously in, in series 3, just on, um, use of the

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director.

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It's really lovely to have, you know, maybe maybe the most famous

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director from Davidson's maybe his best story back as well.

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I think that's a nice little nod back to 1983.

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Yeah, isn't it?

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I hadn't really thought of that, but of course, Graham Harper had

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directed stories for both of them.

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How do we think Pete comes across?

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He does 2 things, which I really, which I really love, and I

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endear him to me massively in this story.

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At 1st he reacts to David Tennant, like kind of like I do and like

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that we all do.

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Is there something wrong with you?

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the way he tells me now that he's his father-in-law as well.

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Yeah exactly.

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Let's try not to think too much about that.

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And he sort of chastises him for just babbling on about everything

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that's happens to be in front of him.

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And he gets so, he's almost like a grumpy dad.

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Like, I remember when my dad got really mad when I changed

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anything about our computer, like the desktop or whatever, and he

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gets mad at, he gets mad at tenant for changing the desktop thing

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saying you fiddled with the things.

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You've changed it.

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I don't understand it anymore.

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Do you know what I think is really lovely is that we always

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remember Jameson as the kind doctor, but I think Nathan, you said

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this many times in the past as well.

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He's actually not.

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And when he's compared against Tennant, who's, you know, perhaps

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you know, pub, you know, to the public at least, the most loveable

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loveable doctor, I think he's closer to Hartnall than he is to

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Tennant, and there's that, um, you know, almost like, oh, actually

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yeah, that's right.

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Peter Davidson's doctor was, you know, sometimes a stringent and

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acerbic and bit of a smart Alec, and it's, it sort of reminded me

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of, of something that maybe isn't so pronounced or well remembered

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about the 5th doctrine.

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It's so that he's impatient, I think.

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Exasperating.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I love it.

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It's my favourite thing about him. he's playing it on a different

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level here.

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You know, he's playing it as a sketch.

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He has to play the guy who doesn't know what's going on, which is

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a sort of very different kind of role from what he had as a

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doctor.

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He's not quite like the way he played it originally.

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But I just think, you know, he's so spectacular and we were so

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lucky to have him as the doctor for those few years.

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I just love that he, the tenant starts immediately doing his tenet

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thing and sort of babbling and going really fast and being quite

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funny and charismatic.

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And Davison just finds it super annoying about as annoying as I do

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sometimes.

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I just love that he reacts that way.

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Again, it's what the war doctor does.

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Like Moffatt will use this again.

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And it's the war doctor who is clearly standing in for the posh

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classic series doctors going, you know, who are you babbling

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children waving your enormous sonic screwdrivers around?

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and say timey, whimey, you know.

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And so, um, here I was actually on rewatch, just a little bit

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surprised to see Peter Davis and agree to join in with the timey

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whimey, but, you know, nevertheless.

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And then there's how it ends.

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And I'm going to quote El Sandra for now, James.

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Take a drink, Dylan.

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There's no way that that speech makes any sense within the sort of

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narrative or within the way that living as the doctor would work.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, there's a little bit I loved being you or whatever.

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I got these things off you.

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But that kind of doesn't really make any sense.

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And the only way it really does make sense is as David Tennant and

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Stephen Moffatt, saying to Peter Davison how much they loved him

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as the doctor and how much sort of future, sort of versions of the

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doctor, you know, depend on it.

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You know, we always say Troughton is the doctor who created the

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role, but the 1st word the doctor says in the new series is run

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and the only doctor who's really ever run has been Peter

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Davidson.

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You know, he runs, he has the sneakers.

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You know, that that idea that he's a youngish hero, very, very

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bright, but still really young and lively.

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That's that's Davison.

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Even to the point where they, where they like straight up just

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point out the influences.

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There's like the squeaky voice, the uh, the trainers and the being

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young and the, um, the, uh, which is just so, so sweet, the way

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they, the way they, he says those lines is just beautifully

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directed and perfectly timed and it's just really lovely.

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I love the Brainy Specks line because it's, it just reminds me of

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how much Janet Fielding used to mock Peter Davison for wearing

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them.

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I think I read somewhere, possibly...

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El Sandoval.

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Peter Davidson is the 1st modern doctor, really.

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He's the 1st doctor as young man.

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He really is the template for most of the new series.

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Yeah.

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In, in, in, the doctor is sort of action hero running around

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hectically trying to save the world.

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He's much more in the mould of David Tennant and Matt Smith than

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any other doctor is.

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If you think about Lazarus experiment this year.

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And you've got, you know, the doctor leaping over consoles and all

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of that kind of thing.

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Like there's not a single other doctor that you can imagine doing

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anything like that in the classic series apart from Pete.

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No, absolutely not.

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And to the point where I sometimes think, do we have tenant in the

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tuxedo and, you know, subsequent doctors in the tuxedo, because

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there's that promo shot of Peter Davison addressed as Bond, for

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the, on the, uh, shoots.

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Like he casts quite a long shadow into knew who, I think, Davidson

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and I think it's right that, you know, he's celebrated and

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remembered in that way.

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I think another thing that's like really touching around this, and

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this is, uh, never could never have been intended at the time, but

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it's like what, um, I guess the tenant um, legacy is as well.

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Like, obviously, it's, what, 10 years or so since, um, since, um

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you know, left the role.

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But it's almost as though, you know, people will be looking back

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on the tenant era in the same way that, you know, when we were in

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the midst of the tending era, we looked back at the Davison era

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through this and there's something quite lovely about that.

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The passing of time is, uh, is sort of captured in that moment, but

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also, yeah, it's also something that, you know, continues and is

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still relevant.

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I still, I still look at that and I, you know, also watched it the

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other day and the most heartbreaking thing was the realisation

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that, 0 my god, this is 12 years ago.

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My life has changed irrevocably.

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And the young, the, you know, the, the old doctor and the young

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doctor, it's almost as though like, you know, I'm looking back to

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when I was, you know, 20 something and a skinny young idiot and

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you know, there's something really touching about that portrayal

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between the tools and, you know, it is definitely, you know, as we

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say, Moffat and and tenet talking to Davidson as their favourite

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doctor, but I think it does also speak to the way that we all

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change.

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And what's that line from, you know, the last episode um, of Matt

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Smith?

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where all different people in the end.

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It just as long as we remember who we were.

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That sort of came to mind when I was watching this again.

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Steve, even 12 years later, Steve, you're still more beautiful

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than David Tennant.

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Better you've still got better hair.

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At least some of us do.

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I was going to say, in fact that it's really Moffat's 1st go at

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characterising the different regenerations of the doctor as

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different stages of development and where he does that thing about

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how you try and be all old and important, which is what you do

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when you're young.

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You know, the reason that Arnold is sort of crotchety and sort of

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pompous and stuff, which, of course, he isn't, is because he's

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young, you know, and he's trying to see him grown up.

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And I think that's gorgeous.

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I think that's absolutely superb.

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That's also that strange, like, reflective thing where he talks

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about being young and getting old when, in fact, almost, you know

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in my mind, doctors kind of get progressively younger.

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I know it's not like exact, but they just seem to get

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progressively younger up until tenant.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, for a very brief moment, this story was the highest

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rated episode of the new series.

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Oh really?

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Yeah, so at our, because people are tuning into too many need

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anyway.

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Children need only average 9.60000 viewers.

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This gained another 1000000.5 viewers.

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And then it'll be knocked off by Kylie and...

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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So for again, 29 days or something, it was the highest rated

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documentary story of the 21st century.

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I just think it's like a really fun little adventure.

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A nice little nod to Davison.

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And it would have all been fine without, even without that bit at

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the end where you get, they get all lovey-dovey about you and my

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doctor and snap and all that.

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It would have been great without it, but when they put it in, it

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just like, it just elevates the thing and makes it, makes it

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wonderful to me.

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Weldy listener, it looks like we've got a fairly extensive cleanup

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job ahead of us, so we'll be off, and we'll see you again at

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Christmas for Voyage of the Damned.

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In the meantime, you can find us wherever you get your podcasts

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podcasts, Bondfinger and Jody Interterterra.

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And Stephen and Dan, where can people find you?

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Well, you can find us at Twitter at New to Who podcast.

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Yeah, you can find pretty much all of our podcast episodes at

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Until next time, may you keep zooming around space and time, saving

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planets, fighting monsters, and being, well, let's be honest

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pretty sort of marvellous.

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Thank you very much for listening and good night.

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Good night.

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Good seeing you.

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What?

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That was Flight through Entirety, starring Nathan Bottomley, James

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Selwood, and Stephen and Dan from New to Who.

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Theme arrangement by Cameron Lamb, Strings performance by Jane

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Orberg.

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This episode, remember who we were, was recorded on the 10th of

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December 2019, and released on the 22nd of December.

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This episode is 3 times as long as the story it describes, which

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makes me think that we've undersold some important stories in the

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past.

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So look forward in the new year to a rerelease of our Daleks

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Masterplan episode, which will clock in at 5 hours.

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And sometimes there are bits where we're talking about the episode

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but we're kind of flagging a bit or whatever, and I just sort of

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think, okay, the energy's not right for the main show.

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I'm going put it at the end.

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Much like most of the things.

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James says on this podcast.

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Please, please feel free to take out my wank about the Baker Davis

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and ratings.

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I always get that wrong.

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Oh, no, no. just sort of cut it so that we all look as smart as

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possible.

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Yes, that's what...

494
00:24:06.420 --> 00:24:08.400
But no one quite as smart as Nathan.

495
00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:09.660
Well, no.

496
00:24:09.660 --> 00:24:11.579
I'll come back in and record.

497
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.519
Re-record my bit, so that's something smarter.

498
00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:17.519
James didn't know I did that.

499
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:18.539
I did.

500
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:19.019
Oh, okay.

501
00:24:19.019 --> 00:24:20.039
You just told me.

502
00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:22.619
Insert some witty jokes and like, yeah, yeah.

503
00:24:22.619 --> 00:24:24.059
Cut in laughter from somewhere else.

504
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:25.559
Ouch, James, yeah.

505
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:27.660
All right, here goes.

506
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.759
Well, dear listener, it looks like we've got a fairly extensive.