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Hello, Delissa, and welcome back to Flight Through Entirety, the only Doctor Who commentary podcast that firmly believes that no Christmas can be truly festive without generous helpings of Clive Swift.

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I'm Nathan.

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I'm James.

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I'm Todd.

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Oh, and I'm a Harper Mark's cropped yellow fright wig on a singing budgie for this one.

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Oh, hi, Kalin. wonderful.

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So it's Christmas. and we are watching Voyage of the Damned.

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This will be our last episode for a little bit, but we will be back next year for our coverage.

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Well, Bondfinger, for our coverage of series 4.

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We have our Blu-ray ready to go.

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We're on the menu screen and we're going to be pressing the play button when you next hear me say the code word miserable.

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So the next time I say that word, I want you to press play.

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Oh, he's hoping this works, okay, are we ready to go?

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miserable.

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And we're off.

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I'm taking it personally, Todd.

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How about you?

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Present company excluded.

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Very confused, Richard.

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Oh, here's David, looking very glum.

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I don't remember being miserable watching this.

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I can't even remember doing a proper commentary on this, did we?

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No, no, this is it.

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We're just doing this I'll be doing it now.

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We've been doing it now. doing it now, Richard.

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Well, it does look like my apartment.

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That is my bathroom and that probably is my cat holed up in the in the wall behind the dummy.

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That's my life for the last 24 hours.

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Not a euphemism.

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What?

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Very much like the Titanic. very much like this podcast.

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So this is huge, isn't it?

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Is this Richard or Todd?

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Tods will not.

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Ratings?

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I think it was 12.8.

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No, 13.3?

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Oh, even, even, even more, I think.

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Isn't it the virtually the highest rated episode to this point, it is.

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Is that it's the highest rate.

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It's still the highest rated episode of the new series.

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Yeah And is it number one or number 3 for the week?

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It was number 2 for the week?

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After EastEnders.

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After EastEnders had broadcast straight after with an extra 600,000 or so.

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It's the 8th most watched Doctor Who story of all time.

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Wow.

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But didn't City of Deer?

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City of Death was the highest, but then there was, so it was City of Death 4 was the highest, then three, then Destiny of the Daleks 4.

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Wow.

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Oh, Bellamy Calendar.

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Arc and Space 2, but none of the other parts.

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And the web planet.

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Of course, the web planet.

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So the web planet rated better than this did.

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And you can see why.

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Oh, so it's giving away that this is the Titanic, but it's probably not the Titanic we were expecting.

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Oh.

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Yeah, because now we see we see Jimmy V there as Banacafalata.

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So suddenly there's an alien.

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Oh, and robot angels, obviously.

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But wasn't it an exciting moment for the listeners?

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Kylie Minogue.

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Soul 3.

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I just spat a piece of Christmas duck and said, what the hell are they doing not paying off Terry Jones and Douglas Adams?

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Yes, Starship Titanic, which was a...

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How did we get away with this?

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Yeah.

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So the original, the working title for this story was Starship Titanic, until someone pointed out that they were infringing on Douglas Adams's copyright.

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But just, no, seriously.

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I mean, really?

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DD, no.

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And he probably had read it, read the book at some point.

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But also, you know, like that that gay man book is about a starship Titanic that isn't a disaster.

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Well, the name Titanic, like it wasn't going to be. of course it is.

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Of course it is.

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And there's robots and things on it.

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It's Douglas Adams.

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Yeah.

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Probably robot monks.

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Voyage of the damn.

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It looks spectacular, doesn't it?

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I mean, that looks amazing.

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And that's our opening shot from Rose that the Titanic is kind of sailing in front of with the moon in the background.

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It's the 1st Doctor Who story of the new series that they upscaled into HD for broadcast.

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Director James Hall.

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I got it wrong several podcasts ago.

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Did you?

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Was it James Palmer?

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No, James Strong.

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Charles Palmer, where you said.

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Yeah, yeah.

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James Strong, isn't it?

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James Hawes.

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Oh, I thought it was James Strong.

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Seems we were both wrong.

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There you go.

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We'll come up with a few other people who directed this as well.

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Russell Toby.

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Russell Toby.

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Yes.

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So they do tell a story about Russell Tovey on the commentary, and it's Phil Collinson and Russell T. Davies guffawing in a very kind of inappropriately sexual way about a story with Russell Tovey and a jet ski.

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And his ears.

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And.

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They say you will never know what it is that we're laughing about listeners at home. think we do.

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It wasn't downhill skiing.

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So what had he been in at this point?

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Appeal to balcony.

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Was he in being human yet?

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He wasn't being him.

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Yeah, okay.

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That's where I knew him from.

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Oh, okay. have absolutely nothing but discomfort with Russell Toby on my screen.

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There is something about his, I could be horribly wrong.

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It could just be his actor's style, but I'm picking up all those people you just shouldn't date.

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Speaking of which here's one.

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Well, I can see what he's doing.

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It's actually just an older version.

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I'm not going to comment on that because I've heard stories.

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I just get that sense of a flaming narcissist, to be honest with you.

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I gay man. could be horribly wrong.

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I remember actually being a bit relieved when he left being human because the boy who replaced him was lovely.

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So the boy that replaced him as the brother of the girl from Misfits.

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And Jason cannot watch him because he looks too much like his sister.

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I was like, oh, he's very pretty.

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He's like, no.

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Don't you love how Kylie has dragged up entirely like Jodie Whitaker's grandmother, Gracie Fields.

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She does look like, I know it's she's got a period look, but look, and I love loving Kylie. she and I are only a few months different in age, that she really does look like someone's granny in this.

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Passenger 57 is Wesley Snipes reference, apparently.

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Really?

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There was a film.

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Passenger 57.

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He's passenger 57 and he tries to save a plane from hijackers.

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Yeah.

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Information.

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Well, that's another thing.

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It's like saying Chan or Tho at the, you know, at the end of each line.

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They have to say information even when they're about to kill you.

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I love this introduction because, you know, he just wanders around and sort of sees, we see enough of the characters just appearing and, you know, making it clear who they are, but he doesn't interact with them.

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So it's called It's called the Titanic, but no one knows about how the Titanic story ends.

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That is a deliberate max headroom as well.

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My God, we're showing our age, aren't we?

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And there is that...

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These robots, of course, remind us all of the robots of death.

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Yes.

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And all those calendars where we 1st saw gentlemen in swimwear in the 1980s.

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Really?

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I think some subscribed it as at the time as Herobots of Death meets the Poseidon event.

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Well, I mean, it's master race caterers.

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They all look like Harry and Christmas decorations.

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Oh hello.

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But it's, it is, I mean, this stuff too.

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That's very robots of death where, you know, the broken robots are up against the wall and everything.

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It is very definitely Russell just mining the history of the program for things that he knows work and for things that don't need lots of explanation.

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You know, like homicidal robots.

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He doesn't need to give us a science fiction explanation.

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So we can be stuffed full of turkey and alcohol and still understand what's going on.

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Couldn't they have, they have been from, from the planet Caldor, whatever.

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Maybe they are.

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So had Kylie been ill?

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Yes, this is her comeback after her cancer.

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It's her 1st action role after cancer.

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Yeah, and like I think she does look...

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She's looking fantastic in that case.

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That's so cool.

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I need to say this.

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I've been a Kylie Minogue fan since locomotion in 1987.

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Yeah, right?

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Like, and I adore her as an entertainer, as a singer.

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And I just want to say that the Australian locomotion is still the best thing ever. and SAW remake of the locomotion is a piece of crap.

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And I just need to get that off my chest.

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But I don't rate her much as an actress.

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Not a very good actress.

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And anything that she's been in, whether it be biodome or street fighter or that thing with the exploding whale or neighbours.

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This is okay in the delinquents.

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Or in the Kath and Kim Christmas special.

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She does all the right moods.

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She says all the right things.

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She hits the mark, she's doing it all, but I find that there's a lack of depth.

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I don't know whether it's her voice or there's something that I struggle with and maybe it's because I prefer as a singer and entertainer and all that sort of thing.

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And I really hated this hair, hated it. absolutely hated it at the time.

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It reminded me of the delinquent's hair.

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It's not as bad now.

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She had her wardrobe.

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But again, she is coming back from being ill.

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She does look a little bit sort of tired.

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I think, I think, though, she's not really required to act because she's required to get 13000000 people watching the episode.

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And I think just to be kind of charming and likeable.

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And I think she does manage that.

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I think she does too.

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I thought that at the time I watched this, I thought she was the worst thing you know.

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I thought she was going to be ripped to shreds by everybody.

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But in fact, everybody just loved her.

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So whenever I come back to this, I, she's so warm.

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Yeah, that's it.

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I do find I do find her much warmer and charming and every time I watch it, I like even more.

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This is my favourite Russell T. Davies Christmas special.

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Yeah, I'd have to have good reasons too.

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And I just love it.

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It's called The Voyage of the Damned.

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It's just fantastic.

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Give me a disaster anytime.

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So the Poseidon adventure has a long history of being shown on British TV at Christmas, is that right?

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basically.

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And so that's Russell is trying to recreate the Poseidon adventure here.

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I've never seen the Poseide adventure.

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Oh, here we go.

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That is so good, isn't it?

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That's Russell immediately gets them our sympathy, puts them on our side by having rich people mock them.

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Yeah.

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Also, I mean, he wrote the character of soon for Debbie Chasen.

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So have you seen her lately?

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She was going to be in... this lady.

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She was going to be a Slaveen in the Sarah Jane Adventures, Janine Slaveen in...

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No, seriously.

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In a Sarah Jane Adventures, and she said, no, no, no, I'd really like to be in Doctor Who.

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There's another thing that the Sonic Screwdriver can do.

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And she's in this, and again, I actually think Marvin and Foon are just about the best characters in this.

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And Russell is such a complete, he's bastard.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We've been saying this over the past few weeks of the actual podcast.

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How horrible he is sometimes.

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And he really genuinely makes us like these people.

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And two, Russell is a bit fat phobic, I think, sometimes.

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There's a lot of self-down things.

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Exactly right, because he's a large man and has had a gay man who's probably struggled with this.

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So there, you know, there's lots of cracks about people being fat.

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But I think the fact that they're fat makes us like them more as well.

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So, you know, like I think that's a kind of nice thing.

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I just love all the touches in this.

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All the little background pictures, all the costumes, all the details.

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It's just beautiful to sort of watch how they've decorated the whole thing.

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And here's who, Charles Palmer?

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Jeffrey Palmer.

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Jeffrey.

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His son was the director.

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I don't think he's a surgeon.

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No, but he should be.

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He should be.

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Oh look who it is.

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The famous miserable bastard.

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Mr. Copper.

243
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Hence us.

244
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He is playing to type, though.

245
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You can't, you can't, you know, dismiss his performance as being anything but very similitudinous.

246
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Did he just flash it kindly?

247
00:13:00.059 --> 00:13:01.679
tree ornament, okay.

248
00:13:01.740 --> 00:13:03.120
No, no, it's a Blake 7.

249
00:13:03.179 --> 00:13:05.399
Oh my gosh, it is food.

250
00:13:05.460 --> 00:13:06.600
This is hilarious.

251
00:13:06.659 --> 00:13:08.100
The country of UK.

252
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Yes, only... only Britain's great.

253
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Not anymore.

254
00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:16.620
Not if we can help it.

255
00:13:18.179 --> 00:13:20.580
His wife Mary.

256
00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.419
Russell always has a dig doesn't he?

257
00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:27.659
Yeah At Christmas, he can poke all us.

258
00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:28.139
Oh, dear.

259
00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.960
But even, this makes me laugh.

260
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It does.

261
00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:36.659
But even the tone of this feels very Terry Jones and riding after Douglas.

262
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Arthopedia.

263
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The interwebs.

264
00:13:48.179 --> 00:13:51.059
Oh, and here we go, Banacafalata.

265
00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.820
Because he's dressed as a Christmas conquer, isn't he?

266
00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:54.299
Yeah.

267
00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.480
Well, his relatives come back for David Tennant's last episode.

268
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Correct.

269
00:13:58.440 --> 00:13:58.860
Yeah, yeah.

270
00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.440
Or distant cousins. played by him again?

271
00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:02.940
No, the Vin Vocce.

272
00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.779
Remember the 2 green people with the spiky hands?

273
00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:08.940
And here we are on Earth.

274
00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:14.519
This is really the actual only Christmassy thing about this about this episode.

275
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Oh my goodness.

276
00:14:16.620 --> 00:14:19.620
And I've forgotten just who we're about to be introduced to.

277
00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:20.340
Yes.

278
00:14:20.340 --> 00:14:22.379
Yes, Kylie. right there.

279
00:14:24.659 --> 00:14:27.059
And there's no one around at all?

280
00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:27.899
No.

281
00:14:27.899 --> 00:14:29.519
They're all very scared.

282
00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:33.419
Yeah, now everyone leaves London after the last 2 Christmas specials.

283
00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:39.419
And that's really good as well because it doesn't work from a world building point of view.

284
00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:41.399
Like it just doesn't work, but it's wonderful.

285
00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.740
You know what this street is called?

286
00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:44.700
No.

287
00:14:44.700 --> 00:14:46.019
Donovan Street?

288
00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:46.559
Stop it.

289
00:14:46.620 --> 00:14:57.960
Like, you can't see it in the quality of the video, but they specifically hung a sign up, saying on a wall that's at Donovan Street.

290
00:14:58.019 --> 00:14:59.879
Just to troll Kylie.

291
00:15:02.220 --> 00:15:05.399
Are there any other Kylie references that we should be?

292
00:15:05.460 --> 00:15:07.919
No, this is a Bernard of Cripples.

293
00:15:07.980 --> 00:15:08.820
Isn't he lovely?

294
00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.340
This is so great, isn't it?

295
00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:12.000
Wow.

296
00:15:12.059 --> 00:15:14.100
Just brilliant.

297
00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.440
And this one little bit part, they get him in.

298
00:15:16.500 --> 00:15:22.139
It's massive overcasting for this tiny part because, you know, he's so fantastic.

299
00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:24.899
It's again perfect for Christmas special.

300
00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.659
Are you saying this was not a setup for snow?

301
00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:28.679
No.

302
00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:38.100
Well, remember, remember what happens in season 4 is originally they'd been going to have Donna's father who had appeared in the last Christmas special and he was ill.

303
00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:39.059
Yeah, he was too ill.

304
00:15:39.179 --> 00:15:40.980
And so they...

305
00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.860
He died during the making of episode one.

306
00:15:43.980 --> 00:15:45.120
Well, episode two.

307
00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.679
So he is in episode one.

308
00:15:46.740 --> 00:15:49.019
Yeah, and they reshoot all of the bits with Bernard in them.

309
00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:53.100
So it is just this sort of wonderful, happy accident.

310
00:15:55.019 --> 00:15:57.059
Well, not for Donna's father.

311
00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:08.639
Well, no, but it's funny. how certain showrunners, this sort of thing happens where they don't plan things, but things happen for a reason and it turns out.

312
00:16:08.700 --> 00:16:09.360
Yes, yeah.

313
00:16:09.419 --> 00:16:11.639
Well, we had that talk, I think, with.

314
00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:15.779
Oh, he's great, isn't he?

315
00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.379
That's why that's why he's national treasure.

316
00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:20.399
It's all in the eyes.

317
00:16:20.460 --> 00:16:24.299
This episode is full of people who have been in Doctor Who before.

318
00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:25.620
Yeah.

319
00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:27.179
I mean, Jeffrey Palmer?

320
00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:27.899
Yep, yep.

321
00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.559
Clive Swift. and then Bernard Cribbins in vinyl.

322
00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:33.960
Golly.

323
00:16:34.259 --> 00:16:37.320
But we've also, haven't we done the Avengers episode?

324
00:16:37.379 --> 00:16:38.940
No, I'm sorry, it's curry on spying.

325
00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:44.879
It all feels the same thing when he's in a Barbara Eden toga and pantaloons.

326
00:16:44.940 --> 00:16:46.259
That was the best.

327
00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.659
I think it's just a terrible week, Torch.

328
00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.320
She herself is charming, but it's nice to see her playing my age.

329
00:16:52.379 --> 00:16:54.899
I've worn to her so much more.

330
00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:56.879
Why did you not like her?

331
00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:57.419
I don't know.

332
00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:59.639
I guess I'm just super critical of her.

333
00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:01.440
Anything new.

334
00:17:01.500 --> 00:17:02.879
Yes, we know that.

335
00:17:02.940 --> 00:17:04.259
We know that.

336
00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:06.119
No, I, but no, it's an interesting take.

337
00:17:06.180 --> 00:17:07.859
I know, I don't know.

338
00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:09.539
I just had huge high expectations.

339
00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:11.460
When I saw that here, it just put me off completely.

340
00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:12.720
Look, I agree with you.

341
00:17:12.779 --> 00:17:21.480
I remember at the time thinking that her performance was weak, but I think it does exactly what it needs to do, I think, in, you know, I think. in a 1st episode.

342
00:17:21.539 --> 00:17:23.279
I just hate that hair.

343
00:17:23.339 --> 00:17:26.339
I just wish you had the hair from the what kind of fool video clip.

344
00:17:26.460 --> 00:17:27.000
Some people would.

345
00:17:27.059 --> 00:17:28.920
Some people will know what I'm talking about anyway.

346
00:17:29.339 --> 00:17:34.380
You're right that someone like that should have had she should have had her own, you know, budget for that.

347
00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:39.059
She or just brought someone in to be her own hair and makeup person.

348
00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:41.880
Because BBC hair is not Kylie hair.

349
00:17:41.940 --> 00:17:46.799
Did you see both Murray Gold and Ben Foster in that band?

350
00:17:46.859 --> 00:17:47.759
Oh, really?

351
00:17:47.819 --> 00:17:48.359
No, really?

352
00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:48.779
Wow.

353
00:17:48.900 --> 00:17:50.940
I love this guy too.

354
00:17:51.059 --> 00:17:51.839
The horrible guy.

355
00:17:51.900 --> 00:17:53.339
He doesn't say well.

356
00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:54.240
Yeah.

357
00:17:54.299 --> 00:17:59.339
See, I thought I saw Matt Fruer in the crowd, but I can't find him on any of the lists.

358
00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.819
Matt Threwett just after we were talking about it. played Max Hedrum.

359
00:18:02.940 --> 00:18:05.279
But I know I don't think he is in there.

360
00:18:05.339 --> 00:18:08.579
The fellow playing Capricorn is superb.

361
00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:10.500
I'm getting, it's just another rhythm.

362
00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:11.519
I can see Brendan doing that.

363
00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:13.500
What?

364
00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:13.920
Doing what?

365
00:18:14.579 --> 00:18:16.619
Oh, really?

366
00:18:16.859 --> 00:18:27.240
I love him because he looks like, um, I'm just trying to think of who was that wonderful actor who was in Carol Burnett and played the boss in 9 to 5 with Lily Tomlin.

367
00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.579
Oh, I know who you're talking about, but I can't.

368
00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:30.420
Dabney Coleman.

369
00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:31.380
He looks like thank you.

370
00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.599
He looks like, how can we remember Dabney Coleman?

371
00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:34.140
It's a while ago.

372
00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.380
I love 9 to five. that he's playing Dabney Coleman?

373
00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.759
And Jeffrey Palmer's playing a bulldog because that's what he always does.

374
00:18:42.180 --> 00:18:57.359
And he's like, and even the site, even I think this, every part he's ever played has just led up to this where he's, I wish he had the white John Smith beard from the Titanic captain and because he'd look great as a Christmas.

375
00:18:57.539 --> 00:19:00.599
It's really good getting him in, isn't it?

376
00:19:00.660 --> 00:19:01.200
It's so wonderful.

377
00:19:01.259 --> 00:19:02.700
Palmer or Toby?

378
00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.500
Palmer is his Doctor Who royalty, and he's always been...

379
00:19:07.500 --> 00:19:11.640
And Russell Toby is our Roberta Toby, just rebooted.

380
00:19:11.700 --> 00:19:15.960
Well, he's future Doctor Who Royalty, I guess. he will be back.

381
00:19:16.019 --> 00:19:18.180
They promised me Erdle's men.

382
00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.339
He's reverted Toby's cousin.

383
00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:20.819
Did you know that?

384
00:19:22.500 --> 00:19:24.660
Another Doctor Who facts.

385
00:19:24.779 --> 00:19:25.799
Alternative, yes.

386
00:19:25.859 --> 00:19:26.700
Fun fact.

387
00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:31.500
So they want David Jason for the Clive Swift.

388
00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.559
No, Clive Swift is great.

389
00:19:34.619 --> 00:19:37.259
No, Clive's, no, nobody, nobody's.

390
00:19:37.259 --> 00:19:37.920
Nobody does it better.

391
00:19:37.980 --> 00:19:45.539
Yeah, well, I was going to say, nobody transmits pretty much unveiled menace and disgust like...

392
00:19:46.259 --> 00:19:51.359
He has art of disdain for absolutely everyone involved and everyone watching.

393
00:19:51.960 --> 00:20:01.380
It sort of ruins knowing what he was like in real life sort of ruins a bit of his performances in this and in keeping up appearances.

394
00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:02.700
Because you know he's playing truth.

395
00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.359
Yeah, because we know that he's really much more like Joe Bell in real life.

396
00:20:07.259 --> 00:20:11.759
Looks much more like a hyacinth bouquet in real life.

397
00:20:11.819 --> 00:20:13.440
Maybe he just doesn't...

398
00:20:13.500 --> 00:20:14.519
Yeah, I know he is, isn't he?

399
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:16.079
Was.

400
00:20:16.859 --> 00:20:19.259
Are any of these people still with us?

401
00:20:19.259 --> 00:20:20.400
Is Clive still with us?

402
00:20:20.460 --> 00:20:21.420
No, he passed away.

403
00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.220
So we're allowed to say all of this.

404
00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:24.900
Any of Russell Toby's ex-partners?

405
00:20:24.900 --> 00:20:26.099
So is that probably...

406
00:20:26.099 --> 00:20:27.119
Are we allowed to talk about that?

407
00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:29.039
You're all going to die.

408
00:20:29.220 --> 00:20:31.140
Poor old Russell.

409
00:20:31.259 --> 00:20:33.960
It's not going to be silly gate all over again.

410
00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:34.859
No.

411
00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:36.839
Although there's a lot of material.

412
00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:38.099
Rand Blunt.

413
00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:39.539
Rand Blonde in Doctor Who?

414
00:20:39.539 --> 00:20:40.619
in modern Doctor Who?

415
00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:43.680
But I guess they really needed that because the suit is so dark, you can't really see.

416
00:20:43.740 --> 00:20:47.700
But then he seems to recover from a, you know, reasonably well by the end of the episode.

417
00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:48.480
Yeah.

418
00:20:48.660 --> 00:20:50.519
I've been shot.

419
00:20:50.579 --> 00:20:52.380
But no, I'm fine.

420
00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:53.640
Yeah.

421
00:20:53.700 --> 00:20:55.200
Wow.

422
00:20:55.259 --> 00:20:59.759
Like, and quite close to, oh, well, they're aliens, so maybe his heart isn't there.

423
00:20:59.819 --> 00:21:01.019
Maybe it just sort of punctured her.

424
00:21:01.019 --> 00:21:03.539
See, that's another thing too.

425
00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.839
This is our 1st set of aliens that look exactly like human beings.

426
00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:14.880
And it was something that happened in classic Doctor Who, but in modern Doctor Who, only Galifraians, only Time Lords look like human beings.

427
00:21:15.059 --> 00:21:21.900
And this is the 1st time that we've ever done it, and they're not humans from the future or doing sort of time tourism or anything.

428
00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:24.000
They are from a completely different planet.

429
00:21:24.059 --> 00:21:30.299
And Russell realised too late that he didn't make that clear enough in dialogue.

430
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:35.640
Well, I think he wanted to do something very minor and cheap to them to make them look like aliens.

431
00:21:35.700 --> 00:21:37.440
But I think, like, who cares?

432
00:21:37.500 --> 00:21:39.359
You could make them look like Trill.

433
00:21:39.420 --> 00:21:41.160
Well, that sort of thing.

434
00:21:41.220 --> 00:21:43.380
But it would have spoiled this, I think.

435
00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:45.359
I think they did need to look like you.

436
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:46.140
Run to the left.

437
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:52.319
Yes, well, the famous panicky idiots running around trope that we need for this point in the story.

438
00:21:52.380 --> 00:21:56.220
Or just have a kind of explanation for it.

439
00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.759
Yeah, like they're wearing some sort of perception filters.

440
00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:02.220
Oh, yeah, they've been through a transformation arch.

441
00:22:02.339 --> 00:22:04.380
Hey, boomtish.

442
00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:08.579
Gentlemen and ladies, because, you know, we are all exciting.

443
00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:10.559
And trees and multiform. is exciting.

444
00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.019
How much?

445
00:22:13.019 --> 00:22:15.240
How much of season 4 had been?

446
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:16.799
There you go.

447
00:22:16.859 --> 00:22:18.299
D8?

448
00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:23.339
Do they shoot this, they shoot this with series three?

449
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:25.259
This was shot in July.

450
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:25.920
Okay.

451
00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:27.240
With season.

452
00:22:27.299 --> 00:22:27.720
Oh, okay.

453
00:22:27.779 --> 00:22:29.519
So had Catherine Tate been signed up?

454
00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:32.700
I think by that point, yes.

455
00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:33.359
Yeah.

456
00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:48.180
But David Tennant's mother died in the 1st couple of weeks of production and so that's why he kind of pops in and out of shots quite a lot, which works quite well. like me on this microphone.

457
00:22:49.440 --> 00:23:00.359
Which works quite well, but it was because he gave him like a week and a half off to be with her as she died and attend her funeral.

458
00:23:01.619 --> 00:23:04.500
Amazing that he's keeping it together, really.

459
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:07.259
Well, that was what everyone said, though.

460
00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.319
I think at the time was just how incredibly professional. was.

461
00:23:10.380 --> 00:23:15.660
If you've ever been through all of this, you're so grateful to be working because you can block that part of yourself off.

462
00:23:15.779 --> 00:23:18.240
Otherwise, you're just in the misery and stress all the time.

463
00:23:18.299 --> 00:23:21.660
It's really helped, especially acting, you get to be somebody else.

464
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:22.200
Yeah.

465
00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:22.920
Yeah.

466
00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:26.880
Oh, he's, ladies, gentlemen, and Banacafalata.

467
00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:32.640
I thought that was Matt Frewer, but the Stuart Stanley.

468
00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:33.480
I love this.

469
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.460
That is not matched for for the gentle listener.

470
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:36.839
Oh, it's not dumb.

471
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.359
This guy is great too.

472
00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:41.759
Is he about to tell us that everything is going to be fine?

473
00:23:41.819 --> 00:23:43.559
horribly tied.

474
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:46.200
The deck chairs will be rearranged.

475
00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:49.200
We're very much alive for the moment.

476
00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:52.559
Actually, I think he's terribly famous, and if I had IMDb in front of me.

477
00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:53.940
Who played the Great Intelligence?

478
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.440
Richard E. Grant.

479
00:23:55.500 --> 00:23:58.440
He's sort of like a younger...

480
00:23:58.559 --> 00:23:59.279
Here we go.

481
00:23:59.339 --> 00:24:00.420
Everything's going to be fine.

482
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:01.619
Let me open this door.

483
00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.740
Oh yes, no, don't do that.

484
00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:10.740
Oh, we knew he wasn't going to last, though.

485
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:11.279
No, no, no.

486
00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:12.660
It is a disaster movie.

487
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:13.740
I had a feeling.

488
00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:17.819
But we really just need Shelly Winters.

489
00:24:17.819 --> 00:24:19.019
Yeah.

490
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.200
Well, I guess is that well, I guess that's why we've got food. yeah.

491
00:24:22.500 --> 00:24:34.259
What's that quote from Stephen Moffatt about Russell really loves to make you fall in love with a character and then melt them.

492
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:35.519
Melt them horribly.

493
00:24:35.579 --> 00:24:36.180
Yeah.

494
00:24:36.180 --> 00:24:38.579
Wickson's sleigh.

495
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:39.779
Bixton Slay.

496
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:40.619
I didn't even know his name.

497
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.420
That's fabulous.

498
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:48.539
It's a proper sort of 80s, you know, um, do you remember that guy in Futurama?

499
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:54.059
He's like, he's basically, um, uh, thatcherous kind of...

500
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:54.839
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

501
00:24:54.900 --> 00:24:57.420
It's that that horrible sort of 80s. is a stockbroker.

502
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:02.220
I mean, we see him doing deals on his phone. just done a line of coke. off screen.

503
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:05.039
Oh, look, there's more dead people out the window.

504
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:09.660
This is some super weird choice for Christmas, isn't it?

505
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:15.299
Don't you think Christmas is kind of synonymous with sort of disaster movies and Jaws.

506
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:16.380
Yeah, I guess.

507
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:20.940
We are going to like spoiler alert off Kylie by the end of the thing.

508
00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:22.920
I didn't know that.

509
00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:23.940
Oh, sorry, James.

510
00:25:24.539 --> 00:25:26.819
She'll be fine.

511
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:28.619
There's the little blue box.

512
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.220
It's such a shame that Clive you didn't get to go in at Astrid, I should say.

513
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:32.700
Yeah.

514
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.440
Holden Astrid.

515
00:25:35.460 --> 00:25:41.700
Russell did consider us seeing her, but they went, oh, no, I don't want to get in the way of her musical career.

516
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:48.480
No, no, no, what I meant was, in this episode, not to actually be inside the Tartar console room for, like, you know, a couple of minutes or something.

517
00:25:48.539 --> 00:25:49.500
Would she have been up for it?

518
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.619
No, she said she was too...

519
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:54.119
She was too busy, but she is a fan.

520
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:55.619
She's really not bad.

521
00:25:56.819 --> 00:25:58.799
She was at the time.

522
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:04.019
Wasn't she in the middle of just finishing her homecoming tour?

523
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.740
Oh, I just love it when you get those, sorry, 2006, 2007.

524
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.900
I just had Hayden Christensen in bed wank shot. with that.

525
00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:15.480
Homecoming is the one with the cybermen.

526
00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:18.180
Like she got Cybermen on stage.

527
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:19.500
Will Baker doing that.

528
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:20.880
Yeah, because Will Baker's a huge fan.

529
00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:23.579
Stunning in that and had nice hair, didn't she, Todd?

530
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:24.660
Nice hair.

531
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:32.339
Well, she seems to be dressed as a Sexy Mavellan as well. in that in that concert tour.

532
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.140
I think Bill's trying to tell us.

533
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:36.299
She was destined to be in Doctor Who.

534
00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:39.180
I liked her to come now as Jody's grand.

535
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:40.980
I think that would be great. would be great.

536
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:41.940
Grandma.

537
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:43.500
Do the accent. doing the accent, grand.

538
00:26:44.099 --> 00:26:48.539
I'm honestly expecting, gosh, who are we getting this year, Doctor Who?

539
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.240
Honestly expecting Susan Foreman, Ace.

540
00:26:51.299 --> 00:26:53.640
Only the upper middle class players.

541
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.460
That's why I'm on this podcast.

542
00:26:59.460 --> 00:27:02.339
I've got to say, how does everyone feel?

543
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:03.119
The lighting.

544
00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:03.779
I'm not sure.

545
00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:06.480
I mean the direction's fine, but the lighting is gorgeous in this.

546
00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:11.039
They've done a really good amount of work getting colour palettes, right?

547
00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:12.660
It's usually the last thing anybody gets.

548
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.240
It looks like Russell Toby had had a really hot curry.

549
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:21.240
Again, we're not allowed to say anything about Russell Dobey, are we?

550
00:27:21.299 --> 00:27:27.480
It's, I mean, this period does a lot of sort of coloured gels and things, like quite a lot.

551
00:27:27.539 --> 00:27:34.079
And, you know, think about the Tartar set and the way that that's lit as well, where everything's sort of green or orange.

552
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.119
Well, they're using a quote, isn't it?

553
00:27:36.180 --> 00:27:36.900
You're right.

554
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.779
Yes, James, because they do green and orange.

555
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:41.940
He loved that sort of colour gel thing.

556
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.599
But is it actually a physical writing effect or is it all done digital?

557
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:46.380
No that's physical.

558
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:48.599
I don't think it's peak word. don't know who it is.

559
00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:49.319
I could be wrong.

560
00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:52.740
Yeah, it costs too much and takes so much time to do it any other way.

561
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.759
Didn't he do a lot of the production design on this?

562
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:58.500
I thought he took over later.

563
00:27:58.559 --> 00:27:59.460
I could be quite wrong, though.

564
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:00.059
I don't know.

565
00:28:00.180 --> 00:28:00.720
I don't know.

566
00:28:01.019 --> 00:28:02.579
Here we go.

567
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:03.240
Here's the plan.

568
00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:04.799
Because this is still a factory.

569
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.380
It's a sort of classic.

570
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.960
It's a nylon factory.

571
00:28:10.019 --> 00:28:10.920
Okay, I believe.

572
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.339
Hershey bars and nylon stockings.

573
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.500
It's very wartime.

574
00:28:16.619 --> 00:28:18.539
Oh, here we go.

575
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:19.559
His hero moment.

576
00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:19.980
Yeah.

577
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.920
And more information than we've had about Gallifrey and everything.

578
00:28:22.980 --> 00:28:26.339
Yeah. and the doctor's age and everything like that, up to this point.

579
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:26.759
Here we go.

580
00:28:26.819 --> 00:28:29.039
Well, they're looking at a trailer.

581
00:28:29.099 --> 00:28:30.480
Oh, big explosion.

582
00:28:30.539 --> 00:28:32.099
Well timed explosion in the back.

583
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:32.759
Another one?

584
00:28:32.819 --> 00:28:35.880
See, more than more information than we've had thus far.

585
00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:39.539
Wow.

586
00:28:40.380 --> 00:28:44.279
And I have my own show.

587
00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:45.660
That's right.

588
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:47.099
I'm super famous.

589
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.140
No, I love those speeches.

590
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.059
He does it so well.

591
00:28:51.059 --> 00:28:51.480
Yeah.

592
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.200
As little children, we love them as silly grown ups, we love them.

593
00:28:55.259 --> 00:28:55.859
Is that the moon?

594
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.859
Yeah, on the side of the moon and just waiting behind the...

595
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.779
It's the earth and its associated moon.

596
00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:03.539
Yay.

597
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:09.839
You know, there was Jody does get a big speech like that in The Woman Who Fell to Earth.

598
00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:18.480
And I just, like, the Murray, you know, absolutely does all that he can to sell that big giant speech.

599
00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:25.200
But because Akinola's stuff is a little bit more kind of atmospheric and a bit less kind of grandiose.

600
00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:27.359
It just seemed to fall flat a little bit.

601
00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:32.700
But, um, but it's a very sort of new series thing.

602
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.759
And, you know, everyone's at home full of turkey.

603
00:29:35.819 --> 00:29:38.940
We all want to cheer and that's a great moment for us to cheer, I think.

604
00:29:39.059 --> 00:29:41.460
And it's our mission statement, isn't it?

605
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.259
You know, everyone gets through here alone.

606
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:44.640
How does that go?

607
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:46.980
Everyone's.

608
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.680
Some people are alive at the end, I guess.

609
00:29:49.740 --> 00:29:52.380
One, two, 2 people are alive.

610
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:53.339
Three, three.

611
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.279
I see your three, I raise it.

612
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.440
What on here?

613
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:00.599
Aren't there some people alive?

614
00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:02.279
Some people, some people last.

615
00:30:02.339 --> 00:30:04.440
Yeah, not the ones you'd choose.

616
00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:06.299
No, we'll talk about that later.

617
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:07.440
Yeah.

618
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:16.740
Well, that's super racist, David.

619
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.339
Just say his name.

620
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.299
For God's sake.

621
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:19.680
No, it's only boys.

622
00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:20.759
And Vince did this.

623
00:30:20.819 --> 00:30:21.900
Oh, okay.

624
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:22.200
Yeah.

625
00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:22.859
Yeah.

626
00:30:23.099 --> 00:30:32.460
It, I think that big set, the big ballroom set or whatever it is, you know, the big room that the fire kind of rolls through is amazingly good.

627
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:33.720
It looks great.

628
00:30:33.779 --> 00:30:41.039
And it's that thing where, you know, if you get the BBC design department to do, you know, a period thing.

629
00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:43.859
You know, that's always kind of a good.

630
00:30:43.980 --> 00:30:44.880
But I like all the sets.

631
00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:46.200
I like all the sets in this.

632
00:30:46.259 --> 00:30:47.279
That is a location.

633
00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:50.039
The bridge or this particular stairwell set.

634
00:30:50.099 --> 00:30:51.240
Yeah.

635
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.900
And that the strut that they walk across, that big room.

636
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:56.579
Like they're very good.

637
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:03.420
He's very good at creating a kind of sense of place of making them look like they're journeying from place to place.

638
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.119
It's not just space corridors.

639
00:31:06.299 --> 00:31:10.140
You know, everywhere is sort of distinctive looking.

640
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.099
Oh, just don't listen to this bit because it'll make you sad later.

641
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.859
It's sad, but it's also very funny at the same time.

642
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.539
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

643
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.660
And it's a hugely Russell detail.

644
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:25.980
But isn't it?

645
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:26.759
Yeah.

646
00:31:26.819 --> 00:31:34.380
It gives these characters character and and warmth and you just care for them so much.

647
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:35.279
These 2 are great.

648
00:31:35.819 --> 00:31:37.200
Yeah.

649
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.799
So the ballroom scene is the...

650
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.740
It's a real ballroom that they've dressed. inner dress.

651
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.859
It's the exchange building in Swansea.

652
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:47.339
Right.

653
00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:50.460
And also the coal exchange in Cardiff Bay.

654
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:51.119
Right, right.

655
00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:52.559
So that was on location.

656
00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:53.940
They were both locations.

657
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:54.240
Yeah.

658
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:59.579
Uh, deck 31 is the nylon factory?

659
00:31:59.640 --> 00:31:59.940
Yeah.

660
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.500
And...

661
00:32:01.500 --> 00:32:05.400
The street is obviously Cardiff City Centre.

662
00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:06.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

663
00:32:06.180 --> 00:32:07.980
But they actually closed it off once.

664
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:08.579
Right.

665
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:15.720
Like they, they closed down the, like, that is, that is a street, like, right in the centre of Garden.

666
00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:17.160
Doctor Who's Huge.

667
00:32:17.220 --> 00:32:19.980
It's the hugest thing possible right at this particular point.

668
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.700
And, you know, it's a Welsh export.

669
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:31.740
They usually wouldn't bother. like they would usually have people just wandering around because it was Kylie and they wanted to keep it secret.

670
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:33.299
Yeah, okay.

671
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.019
And then they ride into it that everyone's vanished because...

672
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.039
Oh, okay.

673
00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:40.619
So they do that so that...

674
00:32:40.619 --> 00:32:41.759
They can keep Cardi's secret.

675
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:42.359
Right.

676
00:32:42.420 --> 00:32:44.819
And then they have the dialogue explaining.

677
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:59.640
Well, I think around April of that year, Russell vehemently denied that she would be in it. within a like 2 days, Kylie and Will Baker had said, oh, yes, no, we're in any Christmas.

678
00:33:01.140 --> 00:33:03.539
Imagine if they couldn't have got her.

679
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.519
They have got Sanita.

680
00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:06.180
Danny?

681
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.319
Danny.

682
00:33:07.380 --> 00:33:10.740
Well, did her best.

683
00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:14.279
She approached them.

684
00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:16.200
Oh, to say she wanted to be in something?

685
00:33:16.259 --> 00:33:23.400
Yeah, Will Will Baker approached them for her and said, you know, Kylie's keen to be in Doctor Who.

686
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.579
But not Danny kind of quickly said.

687
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:31.559
I think it was at the season, sorry, the series 3 launch party.

688
00:33:31.619 --> 00:33:32.519
Oh, okay.

689
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.180
He was there and...

690
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.619
They had been working.

691
00:33:37.859 --> 00:33:40.259
They had been working on her show.

692
00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:53.400
And so he'd been in contact with them because, you know, they need to get the rights to the TARDIS sound effect and side men voices and get the cyber costume design done as well for that stage show.

693
00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:58.740
So they'd been working with them anyway and I guess, you know, because of that.

694
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.279
Russell Tovey played a cyber helmet, didn't he, at one point?

695
00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:03.660
Isn't he hand, Slater?

696
00:34:04.380 --> 00:34:07.859
Known as handles to his mate for some reason.

697
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:08.880
I can't think why.

698
00:34:08.940 --> 00:34:10.380
Can't think why.

699
00:34:10.619 --> 00:34:12.599
Don't think about it.

700
00:34:12.659 --> 00:34:16.199
I've just finished watching years and years. aged very well.

701
00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:17.820
Yeah, he has, hasn't he?

702
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.019
He does look older, but I think he looks he looks, you know, better. himself.

703
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.239
He's embalmed. got so much gay shit on his face.

704
00:34:24.300 --> 00:34:26.159
But that's not for here.

705
00:34:26.219 --> 00:34:28.739
He's also, you know, done a lot of work.

706
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:29.880
Yeah.

707
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.639
At the gym, at the gym.

708
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:33.239
Oh okay.

709
00:34:33.300 --> 00:34:36.719
Yeah, well, I mean, they were constantly getting it. not a fan, am I?

710
00:34:37.019 --> 00:34:40.260
Well, they were constantly stripping him in being human.

711
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.179
Like, he, he's...

712
00:34:42.179 --> 00:34:45.239
Constantly... covered in dirt and blood.

713
00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:45.719
Yeah, yeah.

714
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.039
That's just rubbing each someone.

715
00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:48.719
We've seen Russell's sketchbook.

716
00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:49.800
I mean Russell, really?

717
00:34:49.860 --> 00:34:51.119
Really?

718
00:34:51.179 --> 00:34:53.340
Drawing your cast members in their under flimsies.

719
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:54.000
Is that appropriate?

720
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:55.980
Remember that?

721
00:34:56.039 --> 00:35:02.820
He did, you know, draw Harriet Jones escaping through a trap door after being shot at by Daleks.

722
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:03.780
And that's cannon.

723
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:05.519
She's not dead.

724
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:11.760
Yeah, with Russell Drewitt with a knickers sticking out like pooh bear in the rabbit hole.

725
00:35:12.539 --> 00:35:14.820
These are great, aren't they?

726
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.199
Super simple.

727
00:35:16.260 --> 00:35:17.760
Oh no, they're gorgeous.

728
00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:20.519
And I really do like it when they do them a bit cheap, but graphic.

729
00:35:20.579 --> 00:35:27.119
So the guy doing the voice for them turns up later in under the lake before the flood.

730
00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:29.579
He's not the... he's Morven?

731
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.019
No, what?

732
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.119
Morbin. like Morgan?

733
00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:34.440
should I pronounce, sorry?

734
00:35:34.500 --> 00:35:35.219
The captain.

735
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.000
Oh, okay.

736
00:35:36.059 --> 00:35:37.079
I think he's the captain.

737
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.039
I can't remember.

738
00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:38.940
He dies terribly.

739
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.039
Okay, I think he's the 1st guy to die, isn't he?

740
00:35:41.099 --> 00:35:42.119
Oh, okay.

741
00:35:42.179 --> 00:35:43.500
No, I can't remember that at all.

742
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:44.820
I'm sure it's fascinating.

743
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.400
I'm sure we all really like it when it comes time to cover it.

744
00:35:48.539 --> 00:35:50.760
Well, the theme tune was good.

745
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.800
That's true.

746
00:35:53.340 --> 00:35:55.019
Oh, wow.

747
00:35:55.139 --> 00:35:56.219
Nope, he's not helping.

748
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.440
Wow.

749
00:35:58.500 --> 00:35:59.699
I'm a bastard.

750
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:00.239
Yeah.

751
00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:00.900
Yeah.

752
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:09.000
So I'm taking back all of the things that I said about Russell not being fat phobic this week.

753
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:11.880
Dear, dear.

754
00:36:12.780 --> 00:36:14.579
Oh, there you go.

755
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:18.599
And the doctor asked for consent before going with going at more Morven's bum.

756
00:36:18.659 --> 00:36:19.500
So that's a thing.

757
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.440
More than you get in many relationships.

758
00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:31.679
I mean, like, this really sells how much of a bust.

759
00:36:31.739 --> 00:36:32.579
Oh, ow.

760
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:40.559
How much a bastard Rixton is, you know, leaving the old man to prop up.

761
00:36:40.619 --> 00:36:44.460
See, there's another there's another robots of death reference.

762
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:45.360
With a hand.

763
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:45.780
Yeah, yeah.

764
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:46.980
The hand coming through the thing.

765
00:36:52.139 --> 00:36:54.360
Morphin look food.

766
00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:57.840
I just wish Capricorn had been played by Danny Minogue.

767
00:36:58.619 --> 00:37:01.260
They actually wanted Dennis Hopper.

768
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.079
Oh, oh, yeah, no, I've never kicked Dennis.

769
00:37:04.139 --> 00:37:09.599
I spent the entire 1st time I was watching this thinking that I knew the guy who played Max Capricorn.

770
00:37:09.659 --> 00:37:12.539
He just looked incredibly familiar. from EastEnders?

771
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:16.739
Yeah, I think he's very good.

772
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.340
It's a, you know, the silliest possible villain, I think.

773
00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:24.840
Well, he's a rat with a gold tooth, isn't he, as we've said previously?

774
00:37:24.900 --> 00:37:27.179
Oh, he's Roland Rat.

775
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:35.280
Maybe that's it But I've realised that Tovi, especially when underlip like that looks nothing so much as a waxed gerbil.

776
00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:38.400
Well, he is very sweaty in that scene. isn't it?

777
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:38.880
isn't it?

778
00:37:38.940 --> 00:37:42.119
The rodent show. forward.

779
00:37:42.179 --> 00:37:44.880
Who was the leader of the robots in robots for death?

780
00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:47.280
Miles Fothergill.

781
00:37:47.340 --> 00:37:48.420
Oh, no, Taryn Capell.

782
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.460
Why couldn't it have been Taron Cabell?

783
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:51.900
Gorgeous.

784
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.659
That would have been a bit more compelling.

785
00:37:54.780 --> 00:37:56.519
No, no, don't even try.

786
00:37:56.579 --> 00:37:58.019
Can it be old?

787
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.659
She's she doesn't. why people say she can't act.

788
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:09.780
I mean, it does feel like the delinquents again with the same frocks, but she's got a really nice way of moving and she remembers it's the eyes first.

789
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.599
She has the Billy Hartnell school of acting appreciation.

790
00:38:12.659 --> 00:38:14.519
He says, just work with your eyes and everything.

791
00:38:14.699 --> 00:38:15.599
No, I agree with you.

792
00:38:15.659 --> 00:38:16.739
She does all the right moves.

793
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.480
She does do a lot of work on stage.

794
00:38:18.539 --> 00:38:19.380
Yeah.

795
00:38:19.380 --> 00:38:21.239
So maybe she can act on...

796
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.360
Pushing 2 chart trollies and so it's all in the face.

797
00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:25.139
Yeah, okay.

798
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.639
Tom White?

799
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:27.900
Because I was the same.

800
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.460
Why didn't we not appreciate her?

801
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:33.539
Is it just that as fans we had this overweening expectation of perfection?

802
00:38:33.659 --> 00:38:37.440
You know, this this humpy, you know, I don't know.

803
00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:41.460
Even when I watch Kylie in interviews, I'm always a little bit underwhelmed and I don't know why that is.

804
00:38:41.579 --> 00:38:46.500
On stage, she's just got this energy and this and video clips.

805
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:48.059
It's just this aura.

806
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.480
Underneath, she's just probably still a nice normal sort of girl.

807
00:38:51.539 --> 00:38:53.699
Maybe that's maybe that's why she's so normal.

808
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.800
It's sort of like we expect it to be something a little bit more.

809
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:56.519
What's this?

810
00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:57.360
Oh, that's...

811
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.519
Don't spoil it, boys.

812
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:06.719
No, well, see, these 3 are the TARDest team for this episode. really.

813
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.139
And despite the fact that he is a miserable old bastard.

814
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.239
He's actually kind of endearing.

815
00:39:12.300 --> 00:39:17.400
Oh, there is nothing like anger to enforce charm.

816
00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:28.079
We tend to, I wonder if that's not the placating nature of so many of us, mammals is, and when we're faced with someone of that persona, we really do work a lot in the opposite direction.

817
00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:29.340
And it's the same.

818
00:39:29.340 --> 00:39:34.500
It's a parent, you know, a child with a difficult parent and it's probably the same in audience member with someone who gives that vibe.

819
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:41.460
Look, it's obvious that both Kylie and David are really acting their socks off here just to stomach being in a scene with him.

820
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.880
Was he really difficult on set as well?

821
00:39:44.940 --> 00:39:45.539
I don't know.

822
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:46.079
I have no idea.

823
00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:46.619
We know.

824
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.059
No, all we really know is that?

825
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:48.900
I think he's crazy.

826
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.800
DWA interviews where he's less than charming.

827
00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:54.659
The way he treated Benjamin Cook.

828
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.820
But they are hilarious.

829
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.960
Maybe he just has no time for the press, you know, he might be different on set.

830
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:03.539
I hope not.

831
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.960
That would ruin everything for you.

832
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:07.320
Yeah, no.

833
00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:12.119
I hope he's just as horrendous modern as we would hope.

834
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.480
He's like, oh, here we go.

835
00:40:15.539 --> 00:40:17.820
Yeah, this this is fantastic, isn't it?

836
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.900
The strut, I think it's called in the script.

837
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.300
Oh, you see, you don't need George Lucas, do you?

838
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.219
Well, you kind of have George Lucas.

839
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:27.840
Oh, I would die.

840
00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:29.400
I would be gone.

841
00:40:29.460 --> 00:40:30.119
No, that's it.

842
00:40:30.179 --> 00:40:31.739
I could not get across that, you know?

843
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:36.780
Everyone's just standing there going, oh, for goodness sake, it's just another Ian McKellen review, isn't it?

844
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.039
flashing his bits and bobs and singing away.

845
00:40:41.099 --> 00:40:44.519
Oh, no, this is just this is just like, oh, my God.

846
00:40:44.579 --> 00:40:47.880
It's just like, oh, Sean, it's nice.

847
00:40:47.940 --> 00:40:49.559
Oh, he bloody did though, didn't he?

848
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.659
That's so...

849
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:55.019
Russell's not very lovely to the people that he casts himself, doesn't he?

850
00:40:55.139 --> 00:40:57.239
He's not loving to his apotheosi.

851
00:40:57.300 --> 00:40:58.199
Shut up.

852
00:40:58.260 --> 00:40:59.400
No, that's the real Clive Swift.

853
00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:02.219
But it brings back the danger that, you know, Yeah, yeah.

854
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:02.880
We had got comfortable.

855
00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:06.599
We'd had to stop, you know, we'd had a chance to stop and chat.

856
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.659
And momentarily escape from the angels of death.

857
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:10.500
Yeah, yeah.

858
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:15.360
Oh, no, I think that's just, it's so heartbreaking.

859
00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:18.480
Like, it's that thing. a horrid demand won't die.

860
00:41:18.539 --> 00:41:19.019
Yeah.

861
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:19.679
Yeah, yeah.

862
00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:21.420
Where's he going to go, love?

863
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:22.019
I mean, come on.

864
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.119
Help me?

865
00:41:24.179 --> 00:41:25.380
Oh, it's like Utah.

866
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:26.159
Help me.

867
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.639
Are you equating me again?

868
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:30.659
Never.

869
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:31.679
Only in this moment.

870
00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:34.019
Well, we're both up in middle class.

871
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:34.800
Yes, Christ.

872
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.820
I think that's going to be my sake for this episode.

873
00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:42.960
That should inconveniently circumstance.

874
00:41:43.019 --> 00:41:44.099
I'm sorry?

875
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.820
Because my parents, I had no say what my parents did to me either.

876
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.000
Inconveniently circumscribe. changed my mind.

877
00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:52.019
Estrod's wonderful.

878
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.039
She is.

879
00:41:53.099 --> 00:41:54.840
She's got a...

880
00:41:54.900 --> 00:41:56.880
And she would have made a lovely companion.

881
00:41:56.940 --> 00:41:59.699
I just watched a Danny Minogue video clip.

882
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.920
She looks so young.

883
00:42:01.980 --> 00:42:03.179
I know it's awful.

884
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.679
This is horrible too, isn't it?

885
00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:08.519
Like that...

886
00:42:09.059 --> 00:42:11.159
Oh, oh, God.

887
00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:13.079
Oh, no.

888
00:42:13.139 --> 00:42:19.559
I've been watching succession, the barely veiled, you know, drama of the Murdochs, and there's definitely he's in it.

889
00:42:19.619 --> 00:42:21.059
We're all waiting for him to fall off it.

890
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.119
Well, he's like a large adult son, isn't he now?

891
00:42:24.179 --> 00:42:24.840
Yeah, exactly.

892
00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:26.039
Do you want to talk to my father?

893
00:42:26.099 --> 00:42:27.059
Well, I'm going to talk to my father.

894
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.980
I do love how the Rupert Murdoch character leaves scenes in that.

895
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:37.380
I can't say it on this podcast because we don't have the explicit text, but it begins with an F and ends with off.

896
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.719
Yes, you have.

897
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.460
And he wheeze on carpets and things like that.

898
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:42.059
This is fine.

899
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:43.260
Practically every scene.

900
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:44.760
Yeah, he has a disagreement.

901
00:42:44.820 --> 00:42:46.739
Well, you could...

902
00:42:46.980 --> 00:42:49.199
Oh, the doctor's company.

903
00:42:49.260 --> 00:42:50.460
The whirring key thing.

904
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:51.659
Still wearing key.

905
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.880
She'll get us all killed.

906
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.019
Yeah, he's really awful.

907
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.059
Oh, this is the thing, isn't it?

908
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.360
I think we're seeing Darwinian tropes in action here, huh?

909
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:00.780
are we?

910
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:09.539
Do you know that the 10th time doctor is showing more warmth to Fern, Astrid, and Mr. Copper than to Deer Math from last season?

911
00:43:09.659 --> 00:43:16.739
I'm really, it's funny you say that because I was not getting, this feels like a wholly different show and a reboot.

912
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.380
I'm not getting anything of the last season in Tennant.

913
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.900
Well Russell reboots the show every season.

914
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:23.159
Yeah.

915
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.739
Oh my God. don't know how they're still on that game trick.

916
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.500
But tenants, persona, and performance is a different character.

917
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.079
Well, it's a big Christmas special, isn't it?

918
00:43:31.139 --> 00:43:39.960
And it is kind of out of continuity in the sense that, you know, it doesn't have any effect on anything that comes after it and nothing before it matters either.

919
00:43:40.019 --> 00:43:42.900
Which is different from the last 2 Christmas specials.

920
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.599
This is like a big self-contained movie.

921
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.019
It's the longest episode so far, isn't it?

922
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:49.559
Yeah.

923
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:57.239
And he's also in the tux and that as a pastry is normal outfit too. which makes it a bit different, I think.

924
00:43:57.300 --> 00:44:00.059
I always like him when he does Bond Light.

925
00:44:00.179 --> 00:44:02.519
I love that tax.

926
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.380
And you know, you know term was thinking.

927
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.320
You know, Janet was thinking, oh, maybe I could get the part.

928
00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:08.639
You know, I mean, you're not maybe.

929
00:44:08.699 --> 00:44:10.199
Yeah, that could.

930
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:11.880
That's a beautiful shot.

931
00:44:11.940 --> 00:44:14.519
Because suddenly it looks like a cathedral, doesn't it?

932
00:44:14.579 --> 00:44:16.619
The pipes look like organ pipes and all of that.

933
00:44:16.739 --> 00:44:18.960
And everything's golden.

934
00:44:19.019 --> 00:44:20.460
Danny sent them.

935
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:21.599
She wants her career back.

936
00:44:22.260 --> 00:44:25.199
Honey, you lost that in young talent time.

937
00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:26.340
Hooray.

938
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:27.659
This is great.

939
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.639
Oh, go for it, Kylie.

940
00:44:29.699 --> 00:44:30.119
Nice one.

941
00:44:30.539 --> 00:44:33.780
Well, she's Australian, surely she can play cricket.

942
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.239
Yeah, and we've all played Frisbees on the beach.

943
00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:37.079
She knows what she's doing.

944
00:44:37.139 --> 00:44:39.059
There are a bloody lot of them, aren't there?

945
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.920
Oh, he's not going to come to good.

946
00:44:40.980 --> 00:44:42.119
You can just feel it, can't you?

947
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:43.079
No, he's gonna be great.

948
00:44:43.139 --> 00:44:44.880
He'll end up as president of the United States.

949
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.139
Yeah. end up as Chris North.

950
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.980
Oh, no, he's gonna off himself now, is he?

951
00:44:56.340 --> 00:44:57.780
Wow.

952
00:44:57.840 --> 00:44:59.219
Yes, he will.

953
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:00.059
Shazam.

954
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.900
Well, he's not legally permitted to marry Kylie at this point in human history.

955
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:08.880
So, um, He's just going to create an impulse.

956
00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:09.780
No, not just it.

957
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:11.880
No, well they have that, which I thought was kind of good.

958
00:45:11.940 --> 00:45:19.079
She, you know, they flirt slightly and he says that he can't get married or she says I know that cyborgs can't get married right now.

959
00:45:19.139 --> 00:45:20.219
Not right now.

960
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:20.639
Yeah.

961
00:45:20.699 --> 00:45:22.739
Like, no, they've changed the law.

962
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:23.699
You can get married everything.

963
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.900
Oh, have they?

964
00:45:24.900 --> 00:45:25.860
They have changed the law.

965
00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:26.340
Okay.

966
00:45:26.940 --> 00:45:29.699
When does the law change in Britain, do you know?

967
00:45:30.300 --> 00:45:34.380
You mean the marriage law or the civil partnership?

968
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.440
So partnerships 2007, I think.

969
00:45:37.500 --> 00:45:38.219
Okay.

970
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:38.699
Yeah.

971
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.320
It was about 10 years into Blair.

972
00:45:43.380 --> 00:45:43.800
Right.

973
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.840
Oh, dear.

974
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.820
Well, he's he's been in a whole bunch of Doctor Who's, hasn't he?

975
00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:55.800
The hands don't lie, Kylie.

976
00:45:57.059 --> 00:45:59.219
Old man hands.

977
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.000
When did that happen?

978
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.519
Yeah, Jimmy V was...

979
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:04.019
Actually, they look quite young, actually.

980
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.840
He was the pig in Aliens of London.

981
00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:09.420
He was the monster Melhoun.

982
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:09.719
Yeah.

983
00:46:09.780 --> 00:46:10.380
Oh.

984
00:46:10.380 --> 00:46:15.239
He was the Scofox Blitzer in The Caretaker.

985
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:17.099
Terrible, terrible Gareth Roberts episode.

986
00:46:17.219 --> 00:46:18.900
And he also played the grass.

987
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:19.619
Yes.

988
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:20.579
Grosk.

989
00:46:20.579 --> 00:46:21.719
The grosk and the grosk?

990
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.500
In Attack of the Grass and the Sarah Jane Adventures.

991
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.139
He's also played a Slithine, I believe.

992
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.840
Look, he's got a cafe that is thing.

993
00:46:31.260 --> 00:46:33.179
Ah yeah, okay.

994
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.239
Oh wow.

995
00:46:36.300 --> 00:46:40.860
He's got both things at once from both hands and both in both news.

996
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:41.340
Oh.

997
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.519
I think Russell's actually having a go at Australians.

998
00:46:44.579 --> 00:46:47.099
We're the only people that play Frisbees on the beach, aren't we?

999
00:46:47.460 --> 00:46:49.920
Oh, security protocol.

1000
00:46:49.980 --> 00:46:52.199
He's trying all these different numbers, isn't he?

1001
00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:55.860
One.

1002
00:46:55.860 --> 00:46:57.840
42.

1003
00:46:58.019 --> 00:47:01.559
I do remember at the same time. yet another Douglas Adams reference.

1004
00:47:01.619 --> 00:47:02.400
Yeah, exactly.

1005
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.380
Oh, clever.

1006
00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:13.079
We're so engrossed with this.

1007
00:47:13.139 --> 00:47:13.619
I know.

1008
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.800
I know, and I had to run off because I locked my husband out of the house.

1009
00:47:17.940 --> 00:47:20.280
It's a standard thing we do.

1010
00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:20.940
Yes.

1011
00:47:20.940 --> 00:47:22.800
It's a Sunday.

1012
00:47:23.699 --> 00:47:25.500
It is the plan.

1013
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:33.300
I kind of wish Max Capricorn had been Taran Capel.

1014
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:35.340
Well, because no one cares.

1015
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:36.300
Do you know what I mean?

1016
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.159
Exactly, it's just been his name.

1017
00:47:38.219 --> 00:47:41.519
And I guess... and fanny nun nungs. fanny nung nungs.

1018
00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:45.059
No, but again, I guess...

1019
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.559
Oh no, no, don't do that, darling.

1020
00:47:46.619 --> 00:47:47.340
You don't need to do that.

1021
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:52.860
I do have a problem with his next shot because she jumps 1st and she's away and then it's there and then...

1022
00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:54.059
Oh, and then she...

1023
00:47:54.059 --> 00:47:55.079
Oh, no.

1024
00:47:55.139 --> 00:47:57.239
That's not how things fall.

1025
00:47:57.300 --> 00:47:57.780
I know.

1026
00:47:57.780 --> 00:48:00.360
But gravity's doing weird thing.

1027
00:48:00.420 --> 00:48:02.340
Okay, yes, no, it is a gravity thing.

1028
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:03.179
Yeah.

1029
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:08.519
So I guess this foreshadows what Kylie's going to do a bit later, I guess.

1030
00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:10.739
With a forklift truck.

1031
00:48:11.219 --> 00:48:29.219
And I was wondering whether Max Capricorn, because he is the rich guy who owns the whole kind of thing. that we can have one rich guy survive provided we kill off another rich guy, you know, just because this is a Russell story and...

1032
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.079
Well, also, there's not just one rich guy.

1033
00:48:31.139 --> 00:48:34.440
It's a whole ship of rich guys, but they're like Sith.

1034
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.199
It's only one.

1035
00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:38.519
No, you have a couple.

1036
00:48:38.579 --> 00:48:40.320
There can only be a master in it.

1037
00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:40.860
That's right.

1038
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:41.460
And a slave.

1039
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.260
It does go like that.

1040
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.599
Hi, Russell, Toby.

1041
00:48:46.739 --> 00:48:50.820
I also like that everything's a fleshy blue light, if you need to get out of something.

1042
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.820
Are there any other references?

1043
00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:58.079
Because I'm really just getting the humour is Terry Jones and Douglas Adams.

1044
00:48:58.139 --> 00:48:59.579
Naughty Russell.

1045
00:49:00.300 --> 00:49:01.920
Back to my thing.

1046
00:49:01.980 --> 00:49:12.539
Well, I mean, he's stealing from a whole heap of things. sort of knock about comedy humour tends to be very, very Monty Python, very Douglas Adams-y kind of thing.

1047
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:18.960
You know, it's always funny, sort of overly long names and weirdly named characters with funny heads.

1048
00:49:19.019 --> 00:49:24.599
Well, also that thing that Mr. Copper does about getting the history of Earth wrong is from the end of the world.

1049
00:49:24.659 --> 00:49:32.219
So Kylie is now, or Astrid is now, auditioning, saying, oh, well, look, can I come with you?

1050
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.599
And I think when you ask, that's not a very, doesn't end very well.

1051
00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:38.219
Yes.

1052
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.199
Like Linda with a Y.

1053
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:52.139
Well, in fact, the other thing too is that we know at home that they're only really ever going to get Kylie, like Catherine Tate, she's only ever going to do a Christmas special, so there's no chance she'll ever actually.

1054
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.980
So I think at this point we know that something terrible will happen to her.

1055
00:49:56.219 --> 00:49:57.599
Yeah.

1056
00:49:57.659 --> 00:50:04.860
Or maybe she meets Russell Tovey and sees how handsome he is and they go off together and, you know, then she realises he's gay.

1057
00:50:04.980 --> 00:50:07.559
Yeah, she's a big disappointment.

1058
00:50:08.099 --> 00:50:11.820
And what they he'd love her because she's Kylie.

1059
00:50:11.940 --> 00:50:13.260
Yeah, well, that's it.

1060
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:15.780
All gay men love Kylie.

1061
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.119
That is the law.

1062
00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:19.380
Apart from my husband.

1063
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:20.219
Really?

1064
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.320
He prefers Danny.

1065
00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:24.599
Hey, should be on this podcast.

1066
00:50:24.659 --> 00:50:26.820
This is so glorious.

1067
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:27.900
This is cute.

1068
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:28.860
It's really cute.

1069
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.119
And it's another well-timed explosion in the background.

1070
00:50:33.179 --> 00:50:37.800
Getting to kiss all of your companions will want to be companions.

1071
00:50:37.860 --> 00:50:38.519
Oh, yeah.

1072
00:50:38.579 --> 00:50:39.599
It's rule.

1073
00:50:39.659 --> 00:50:40.559
It's a rule.

1074
00:50:40.619 --> 00:50:44.760
So, you know, if you did have Kylie as a companion, wouldn't you?

1075
00:50:44.820 --> 00:50:49.320
Well, I think that's a that's kind of a sweet kiss of encouragement, though.

1076
00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:53.460
I don't think that's quite the DNA sample thing that we got with mastery.

1077
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:54.179
Kiss of death.

1078
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:55.079
The kiss of death.

1079
00:50:56.219 --> 00:50:58.019
I do like that.

1080
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.059
I just took a DNA sample turns out 100% that bitch.

1081
00:51:07.019 --> 00:51:08.400
Sorry.

1082
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.099
Hooray.

1083
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:12.480
Okay, we're exploding them.

1084
00:51:12.539 --> 00:51:13.679
Oh, and he's kind of joining in.

1085
00:51:13.739 --> 00:51:16.559
Horrible Brixton is part of the team.

1086
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.599
Oh.

1087
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.320
Yeah, that's really not going to work.

1088
00:51:28.500 --> 00:51:30.480
It's a ridiculous.

1089
00:51:30.539 --> 00:51:32.219
The whole 3 questions thing.

1090
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:33.539
It is.

1091
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:38.880
You've been programmed to kill us, but there's an easy loophole in your programming.

1092
00:51:38.940 --> 00:51:40.500
But again, it's Christmas.

1093
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:41.219
Do you know what I mean?

1094
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:42.420
Like, we can just paper over it.

1095
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:43.980
Who cares, I think, at this point.

1096
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.260
Does he accidentally ask, Oh no, he does get to ask the right question, right, doesn't he?

1097
00:51:52.320 --> 00:52:01.380
He's not like, do you remember Homer asking a, the, you know, a Pooh takes him to the Quickie Mart guy?

1098
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:02.519
entirely differently.

1099
00:52:02.579 --> 00:52:03.659
No, it doesn't.

1100
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:06.599
I really did.

1101
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:11.219
And then I had pictures of Winnie the Pooh without your pants on stuck in the rabbit hole again and we're back to this.

1102
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.960
Well, that was...

1103
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:13.860
With more of an early on.

1104
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.300
Well, I just see Russell Toby.

1105
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:23.400
If they ever do an x-rated stage version of AA Milm, I can really see Toby with a massive jar of honey, a red t-shirt, nothing else.

1106
00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:24.059
Yeah.

1107
00:52:24.059 --> 00:52:25.619
Can you get a duper?

1108
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:26.940
think I've seen that video.

1109
00:52:27.300 --> 00:52:30.420
David looks really young in those close-ups.

1110
00:52:30.539 --> 00:52:33.000
He looks like he's gurning.

1111
00:52:33.059 --> 00:52:36.960
I just love all the little nods to Eccleston without any of the actual gravitast.

1112
00:52:37.019 --> 00:52:38.099
Oh, she does a pulse.

1113
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.719
But you have to think, you know, that just felt like a big can of impulse.

1114
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:46.980
That whole thing of, you know, you run after a woman in Martin Place and give her flowers, but the opposite.

1115
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.139
Do you know that that very 1st video clip has impulse in it?

1116
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:52.739
That's right.

1117
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.360
She had some sores, didn't she?

1118
00:52:54.420 --> 00:53:00.659
Thank you for picking up on my such subtle reverence there, Todd, which must have been unconscious because I've totally forgotten till you told me.

1119
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:01.440
I remember.

1120
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:02.639
It is Blake City.

1121
00:53:02.699 --> 00:53:03.239
It is, isn't it?

1122
00:53:03.300 --> 00:53:03.900
It really is.

1123
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:05.280
Oh my golly gosh.

1124
00:53:05.340 --> 00:53:06.840
And absolutely, deliberately.

1125
00:53:06.900 --> 00:53:08.460
Abso more.

1126
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.559
Oh, I wish we'd had a Paul Darrow, Laura.

1127
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:14.639
Well, in fact, you have to have Jan Chappell, someone in this thing.

1128
00:53:14.699 --> 00:53:19.199
You know, some knobbly old creaky old thespe wannabe that, no, not hard times.

1129
00:53:19.260 --> 00:53:22.739
They could have just wheeled them in in a chair and just creaked them across the set.

1130
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.360
Yeah, they didn't have to do anything.

1131
00:53:24.420 --> 00:53:25.980
I'd have like Su Lin.

1132
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:27.599
She would have been good in this crisis.

1133
00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:29.340
Please send me to Tech 31.

1134
00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:33.539
I need I need to get ready for my close up fall off.

1135
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:34.380
Spoilers.

1136
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:38.159
Do you know who I'd actually really love to see again, and he's still working?

1137
00:53:38.219 --> 00:53:39.000
Michael Keating.

1138
00:53:39.059 --> 00:53:39.539
Villa.

1139
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:42.119
I would just love him to guess him one of these things.

1140
00:53:42.179 --> 00:53:44.699
He could play Bernard Cribben's, you know, love slave or something.

1141
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.340
I mean, you know, he's always playing the past.

1142
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.380
He's always playing.

1143
00:53:49.380 --> 00:53:50.699
But I never thought I'd hear.

1144
00:53:50.699 --> 00:53:52.440
Bernard...

1145
00:53:52.500 --> 00:53:53.219
Don't even fight.

1146
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:54.840
We just worked...

1147
00:53:54.900 --> 00:54:02.039
Well, except in some of those scenes in Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 AD. I love those old-fashioned talky things.

1148
00:54:02.099 --> 00:54:06.780
It reminds me of horror horror fame rock. what Oh, yes, the speaking tubes.

1149
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:07.920
Yeah, yes.

1150
00:54:07.980 --> 00:54:13.019
Oh, there's Kylie having a moment as Hayden Christensen in the big sheets as well.

1151
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:19.800
There's a lot of that transition, you know, transcendent gasping going on in this, isn't there?

1152
00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:21.300
Beautiful lighting again.

1153
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:22.860
Physical effects.

1154
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.860
Do you know, I'd forgotten how good this looked.

1155
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:31.019
I've got to say, I remember it being a bit thin, but I'm getting heaps.

1156
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:51.599
I think it's really well plotted as well because you've got, again, you've got that, um, uh, you know, we establish the, the teleport bracelets, um, we have, when, when Morvin falls down the shaft, Foon says, no, no, no, there has to be some science fiction reason why he's still alive.

1157
00:54:51.659 --> 00:54:54.480
All prefiguring what happens to Kylie.

1158
00:54:54.539 --> 00:54:58.380
But that all came about towards the end of the scripting process.

1159
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:02.460
Initially, she wasn't wearing the teleport bracelet.

1160
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:10.860
Brian Minchin suggested to him to Russell that they needed to be away for the doctor to try and save her.

1161
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:21.480
And so the teleport bracelet thing was something he came up with so that they could have the whole Kylie being Stardust Kissy Kissy thing at the end.

1162
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.559
Originally, she just...

1163
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:27.119
It falls off the edge and it's terribly tragic.

1164
00:55:27.179 --> 00:55:29.519
You don't get that extra 10 minutes.

1165
00:55:29.579 --> 00:55:31.920
Why are they killing Kylie at Christmas?

1166
00:55:32.099 --> 00:55:34.260
such a strange choice.

1167
00:55:36.179 --> 00:55:38.340
He's not just a little too dark.

1168
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.440
To just kill Carly at Christmas.

1169
00:55:40.500 --> 00:55:44.159
He had to bring her back for one last stop before blowing her off.

1170
00:55:44.219 --> 00:55:45.480
Yeah, so to speak.

1171
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.820
It's like he's in a war machine.

1172
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:49.440
Yeah, yeah.

1173
00:55:49.500 --> 00:55:50.340
That's a nice thought.

1174
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:56.400
I was just picking up the rise of the sideman stuff again, but I mean, these are all Doctor Who.

1175
00:55:56.460 --> 00:55:57.960
Tropes, can I say?

1176
00:55:58.019 --> 00:55:59.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1177
00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:04.920
I mean, this is, you know, like, it's, it's shorthand for Doctor Who Villa.

1178
00:56:04.980 --> 00:56:17.820
It's what the people who don't normally watch Doctor Who, but are tuning in for Christmas because they're being forced to by their children or whatever that they can easily identify. actually a massive 1979 microwave, isn't it, Charlie Wheels?

1179
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:19.559
That is glorious.

1180
00:56:19.619 --> 00:56:20.159
That is gorgeous.

1181
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:28.019
So, do you remember those rumours at the time that Astrid was actually part of the TARDIS?

1182
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.960
Well, because her name is an anagram of TARDIS?

1183
00:56:31.019 --> 00:56:34.920
Well, her name is, yeah, her name is, is an anagram of TARDIS?

1184
00:56:34.980 --> 00:56:39.000
Peth is the Welsh word for thing.

1185
00:56:39.059 --> 00:56:41.699
She's a name of the artist thing.

1186
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:42.480
Thingy.

1187
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:44.460
I think initially her name was going to be Peth.

1188
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:45.840
That was the first to be Peth.

1189
00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:46.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1190
00:56:46.860 --> 00:56:48.119
Well, thing.

1191
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.719
Sorry, it's like Tegan Javanka.

1192
00:56:51.780 --> 00:56:54.539
Wasn't she going to be a banker?

1193
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.480
Oh.

1194
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:01.739
Where's that steak?

1195
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:04.679
Chug, chug, chug.

1196
00:57:04.739 --> 00:57:05.340
Oh, I get it.

1197
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.099
He's the Christmas little steam train toys.

1198
00:57:08.219 --> 00:57:10.019
Yeah, he does.

1199
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:27.239
He does look like something that you would sort of, you know, repeatedly sort of push along the ground before letting it go and then and all the angels are based on Val Kilmer because that's pretty much what he's doing with his career. sitting getting a facial back to Russell Tovey.

1200
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:34.500
Oh, I also like the glassy eye and the bad tooth that if you really want to know.

1201
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:35.940
God, he does have a gold tooth.

1202
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:36.840
No, no.

1203
00:57:36.900 --> 00:57:41.219
And the, and the light that the, the glint off the tooth is real.

1204
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:45.780
It's not a special effect on the on the promotional videos.

1205
00:57:45.780 --> 00:57:48.179
It actually happens in real life, any comments on it.

1206
00:57:48.659 --> 00:57:50.639
But it is a special effect.

1207
00:57:50.699 --> 00:57:52.079
Oh, it is, especially...

1208
00:57:52.139 --> 00:57:52.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1209
00:57:52.739 --> 00:57:53.519
It's not supposed to be.

1210
00:57:53.579 --> 00:57:54.840
But they get this.

1211
00:57:54.900 --> 00:57:57.539
I mean, you can't do everything, anything except physically.

1212
00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:59.039
It costs so much. oh that's cute.

1213
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:00.420
That's very cute.

1214
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.119
Oh, you are, yes.

1215
00:58:03.179 --> 00:58:03.840
Loser.

1216
00:58:03.900 --> 00:58:08.579
Telling a narcissist, he's a narcissist is the best way to get them to lose their guard.

1217
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:10.019
It's quite...

1218
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.179
The truth is, yeah, no, the truth will always come.

1219
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.659
They cannibalise the John Lumick's cyberchair?

1220
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:16.320
Yeah, yeah.

1221
00:58:16.380 --> 00:58:17.639
Yeah, well, Richard was saying that earlier.

1222
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.059
Those are the same tubes.

1223
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.360
Very same tube, still damp.

1224
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:30.119
You don't want to destroy yet another Dyson to make a...

1225
00:58:30.179 --> 00:58:31.199
They very expensive.

1226
00:58:31.260 --> 00:58:32.639
Very expensive, darling.

1227
00:58:32.699 --> 00:58:38.820
And yet none of this actually looks expensive, even though it's gold and they put a lot of work.

1228
00:58:38.940 --> 00:58:42.539
It really does feel like something school did, didn't it, didn't they, on the last day of term?

1229
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:44.639
We got to do a Doctor Who Christmas show.

1230
00:58:44.699 --> 00:58:46.679
It is every Doctor Who Christmas show.

1231
00:58:46.739 --> 00:58:47.880
That's also very Christmasy, isn't it?

1232
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:48.599
It is.

1233
00:58:48.659 --> 00:58:49.079
It is.

1234
00:58:49.139 --> 00:58:50.460
And it's Christmas Panto.

1235
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:51.960
And even the villain you want to explain.

1236
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:52.920
Where everyone dies.

1237
00:58:52.980 --> 00:58:54.900
Put sauce on and give him a lick, don't you?

1238
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.119
He's just lovely, chubby, chunky Christmas pudding of a thing, isn't he?

1239
00:59:00.179 --> 00:59:02.099
In his own, you know, Bain Marie.

1240
00:59:02.099 --> 00:59:03.420
Of his existence.

1241
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:04.260
Doggle, doggle.

1242
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.840
Oh, no, not Kylie.

1243
00:59:06.900 --> 00:59:07.739
Come on, Kylie.

1244
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:08.460
Don't do it.

1245
00:59:08.460 --> 00:59:10.860
So Kylie is Beryl Reed for this.

1246
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.559
Kylie is...

1247
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.139
I was going to say Sigourney Weaver, but I had to keep it within context.

1248
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:18.059
Yes, Sigourney Reed.

1249
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:23.940
She is Beryl Reeder, Sigourney Weaver with the forklift suit. right.

1250
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:25.860
Get away from her, you bitch.

1251
00:59:27.659 --> 00:59:30.179
Come on, Kylie, you can do it.

1252
00:59:30.780 --> 00:59:34.079
That's the name that's the name of her wig.

1253
00:59:34.139 --> 00:59:35.519
The gorny weave.

1254
00:59:36.659 --> 00:59:39.659
Oh, that really almost...

1255
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.000
I like how there's actually dialogue there to show.

1256
00:59:42.659 --> 00:59:44.940
Brake lines have been cut, so she has to die.

1257
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.760
Oh, so she can't break.

1258
00:59:47.820 --> 00:59:48.360
Here we go.

1259
00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:48.780
Yes.

1260
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:50.820
So the signposted.

1261
00:59:51.900 --> 00:59:53.880
Oh, Kylie.

1262
00:59:54.420 --> 00:59:56.159
Charlene.

1263
00:59:56.219 --> 00:59:58.619
Get off the forklift.

1264
00:59:58.679 --> 00:59:59.579
Oh, jeez.

1265
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:00.420
Doctor.

1266
01:00:00.420 --> 01:00:02.340
She's really good.

1267
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:03.420
No, she's wonderful.

1268
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:05.340
But Kylie, wonderful.

1269
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:06.360
I love you.

1270
01:00:06.420 --> 01:00:08.159
Yes, yes.

1271
01:00:08.219 --> 01:00:10.559
But come on, she cooked.

1272
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:11.400
That Jason Donovan.

1273
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:12.840
Yeah, poor old Jason.

1274
01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:16.079
Oh, they should have got Jason Donovan to play Max Capitol.

1275
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.019
There's his career.

1276
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.840
But seriously, come on.

1277
01:00:21.900 --> 01:00:24.300
And she maybe has to just sort of jump out.

1278
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:26.400
Yeah, how did she get out of that thing?

1279
01:00:26.460 --> 01:00:28.980
Do we have to lose everybody?

1280
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:30.059
Yeah.

1281
01:00:30.059 --> 01:00:33.599
Yeah, she could have jumped at the last 2nd and grabbed hold of something.

1282
01:00:33.659 --> 01:00:37.500
Yeah, other Doctor Who stars. have done things like that.

1283
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:40.679
And now on Star occasions.

1284
01:00:40.739 --> 01:00:49.019
Yeah, but like, you know, you give David Tennant the chance to do some acting, you, you know, all of that sort of thing.

1285
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:57.960
Like, I can see why he chooses to do it, rather than, you know, like, you know, she reaches out ahead and then we have a fascinating scene of him pulling her...

1286
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.119
Him burning, spitting.

1287
01:01:00.179 --> 01:01:00.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1288
01:01:01.019 --> 01:01:08.400
See, these, these fabulously operatic and absurdly ridiculous montage of, you know, everything going to hell.

1289
01:01:09.420 --> 01:01:11.760
Then he's James Bondman.

1290
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:13.440
Yeah, this is awesome isn't it?

1291
01:01:13.500 --> 01:01:17.940
Like a ridiculous lo-mo fades, giant flavour.

1292
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:21.960
You know they're wanting him to go. if Daniel decides to go home.

1293
01:01:22.019 --> 01:01:23.159
We've got David.

1294
01:01:23.219 --> 01:01:24.659
Shirley.

1295
01:01:24.780 --> 01:01:26.219
And you know what?

1296
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:26.760
No.

1297
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:27.300
No.

1298
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:31.139
It's Pierce Brosnan's...

1299
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.000
Yeah, slightly smaller attache case.

1300
01:01:33.059 --> 01:01:36.420
And it's like watching, I'm not watching this and going, what is going on?

1301
01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:38.760
Oh, really?

1302
01:01:38.820 --> 01:01:44.820
There were a number of complaints at the time because of because of the messianic imagery here.

1303
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:49.380
I just thought it was because it just felt like I'm heaven 17 from 1987 groups.

1304
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:49.860
Sorry?

1305
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.260
Well, they don't own angels.

1306
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.420
But it's a heaven 17 video clip.

1307
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:57.960
Temptation.

1308
01:01:59.820 --> 01:02:03.300
But this is also Blake, and it's also Milton.

1309
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:04.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1310
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:14.880
I actually kind of like that the doctor is the fallen one. but constantly attempting to ascend because the doctor is the one that's fallen from grace for the time lords.

1311
01:02:14.940 --> 01:02:19.500
He is the 1st, well, at least he's the most notable outcast, who's constantly seeking redemption.

1312
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:23.280
You punched a hole in my floor and now my doors are open.

1313
01:02:23.340 --> 01:02:24.599
Russell Tovey.

1314
01:02:24.659 --> 01:02:31.619
I have to say that I do love that trope where you only have to kill the leader to disable all of the...

1315
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:32.519
Oh, here we go.

1316
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.039
Only it worked in politics.

1317
01:02:35.099 --> 01:02:36.719
I do love how he gets to say this.

1318
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:47.280
He doesn't he has said before that he would like to meet someone called Alonso, like in series 2 or something.

1319
01:02:47.340 --> 01:02:48.300
Right, he did.

1320
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:49.139
He did.

1321
01:02:49.199 --> 01:03:02.760
Now, again, because Russell is a terrible person, the... the original plan had been for it to destroy... to crash... to crash... just missing it.

1322
01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:04.619
Who vetoed that?

1323
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:05.460
I don't know.

1324
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.619
But he does get to go back and have a do over.

1325
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:08.639
Julie.

1326
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:10.500
Julie said no, I remember.

1327
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.440
Yeah, and then he decided to do it anyway.

1328
01:03:13.500 --> 01:03:14.460
Later next year.

1329
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:16.619
Well, well, yes, in the next season.

1330
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:17.400
Yeah.

1331
01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:21.179
That's our Poseidon adventure moment.

1332
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:27.539
I just thought, you know, killing Kylie and then destroying Buckingham Palace probably a pit much for Christmas Day.

1333
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:32.699
Although what they drain the Tiber, the Tiber, for God's sake, they drain...

1334
01:03:33.179 --> 01:03:35.340
I have a Latin teacher, shut up.

1335
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.099
Carry on up for Thames.

1336
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:39.480
Oh, no, that's the kiber.

1337
01:03:39.539 --> 01:03:41.820
So they drained the Thames last year.

1338
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:44.820
And what if they done?

1339
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.320
They've destroyed Big Ben.

1340
01:03:46.380 --> 01:03:54.659
They've destroyed the Girk and like it would have been just another London landmark for Russell to destroy, but...

1341
01:03:54.659 --> 01:04:03.300
They also talking to Clarence house, apparently, about getting... destroying the Charles to do a cameo because he's a huge fan.

1342
01:04:03.420 --> 01:04:04.260
Is he?

1343
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:04.679
Yes.

1344
01:04:04.739 --> 01:04:05.579
Oh okay.

1345
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.059
Because no one was so upper middle class.

1346
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:13.559
And so this is, of course, Doctor Who royalty as well, because Jessica Martin.

1347
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:16.980
Jessica Martin who played Mags in Greatest Show in the Galaxy.

1348
01:04:16.980 --> 01:04:18.000
No way.

1349
01:04:18.059 --> 01:04:18.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1350
01:04:19.019 --> 01:04:23.639
And he's back on Big Finish playing exactly the same character.

1351
01:04:23.699 --> 01:04:27.119
And also recently wrote a comic strip about her character.

1352
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:31.139
I'd have to have seen the queen turn into a werewolf in this.

1353
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:32.280
That'll never happen.

1354
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:33.119
That's canon.

1355
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.699
We have established that she is a werewolf.

1356
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:37.920
He really wanted it to fly through it.

1357
01:04:37.980 --> 01:04:40.380
No, I don't think the nation would have loved him for that.

1358
01:04:40.500 --> 01:04:43.559
But he does get to destroy it later, so it's fine.

1359
01:04:43.619 --> 01:04:44.760
It's a great choice.

1360
01:04:44.820 --> 01:04:47.340
Which isn't it wonderful?

1361
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:48.480
And that's Yamato.

1362
01:04:48.539 --> 01:04:51.179
That is Star Blazers...

1363
01:04:51.179 --> 01:04:52.920
Utris and Kanya Mato.

1364
01:04:52.980 --> 01:04:56.099
I mean, we'll get there next year, but the fact...

1365
01:04:56.099 --> 01:04:56.579
Thank you.

1366
01:04:56.579 --> 01:04:57.300
Happy Christmas.

1367
01:04:57.539 --> 01:04:59.280
Merry Christmas.

1368
01:04:59.340 --> 01:05:00.840
I like her rollers.

1369
01:05:01.500 --> 01:05:04.019
But she uses Daimlers normally.

1370
01:05:04.380 --> 01:05:06.360
It's a dad joke.

1371
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:07.500
It's Christmas.

1372
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:09.360
And there he goes.

1373
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:11.519
He's happy playing every partner.

1374
01:05:11.579 --> 01:05:15.179
Now I get why the can they all open their mouths any wider?

1375
01:05:15.179 --> 01:05:16.440
Every single one of them.

1376
01:05:16.500 --> 01:05:18.239
I'll kiss.

1377
01:05:18.300 --> 01:05:19.320
Go on, go and produce.

1378
01:05:19.380 --> 01:05:20.880
Oh, that was acting.

1379
01:05:22.019 --> 01:05:25.920
Even Russell still got a bit, you know, happening there.

1380
01:05:28.980 --> 01:05:30.480
And there goes Max.

1381
01:05:30.539 --> 01:05:32.280
Hooray, he exploded.

1382
01:05:35.340 --> 01:05:37.739
Oh, gosh, Doctor Who looks great at this time, doesn't it?

1383
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:38.699
It does, doesn't it?

1384
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:39.059
Yeah.

1385
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:43.199
Really, this episode has much more budget than it ought to have.

1386
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.960
Yeah, well, you know, like I can see them saving up for this.

1387
01:05:46.019 --> 01:05:48.960
This is their big... their biggest Christmas special ever.

1388
01:05:49.019 --> 01:05:49.559
Yeah.

1389
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:54.119
They wanted to be and it was and it's still, you know, their highest rating episode.

1390
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:56.159
Oh there we go.

1391
01:05:56.219 --> 01:05:58.380
He does remember that a whole bunch of people got killed.

1392
01:05:58.500 --> 01:06:02.219
I just thoroughly enjoyed this yet again.

1393
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:04.380
Shouldn't it have been called a transmit?

1394
01:06:04.500 --> 01:06:07.260
No, no, it's...

1395
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:09.119
No, because it's a Blake 7 reference.

1396
01:06:09.179 --> 01:06:09.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1397
01:06:09.900 --> 01:06:11.099
A Blake 7...

1398
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:17.940
He's doing exactly what exactly what Foon was doing early on.

1399
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:18.840
Yeah.

1400
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:21.659
Yeah, it's wonderful.

1401
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:22.320
Name that.

1402
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:26.460
It's a pretty straightforward plot, but it's like all of the points are quite well seated.

1403
01:06:26.579 --> 01:06:28.199
It's a good standard old.

1404
01:06:28.260 --> 01:06:29.639
Yeah, Doctor Who bit of fun.

1405
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:36.719
Oh, and of course, because it's Christmas, she comes back as the spirit of BBC ratings.

1406
01:06:38.099 --> 01:06:41.820
As a BBC one ident at Christmas.

1407
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:42.420
Yes.

1408
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:44.760
Oh, and ethicles and...

1409
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:45.840
I do like that.

1410
01:06:45.900 --> 01:06:51.059
It just shows her warmth that she's still regarded and still popular and still, you know, earning over there.

1411
01:06:51.179 --> 01:06:56.699
She wouldn't have done so well had she stayed in Australia because we know what she...

1412
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.219
She's a grease monkey.

1413
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:00.059
Oh.

1414
01:07:00.539 --> 01:07:02.519
Stop me from falling.

1415
01:07:02.579 --> 01:07:05.940
Oh, isn't that a reference to one of her songs?

1416
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:08.699
I've made a few during this podcast.

1417
01:07:08.699 --> 01:07:10.320
Under my breath.

1418
01:07:10.380 --> 01:07:12.659
We'll see people pick up on that.

1419
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:14.519
Stop even falling.

1420
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:18.179
It's actually a reference to this episode because it was recorded later.

1421
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:18.960
Yeah.

1422
01:07:19.500 --> 01:07:21.599
Isn't that off golden?

1423
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:22.920
anyway.

1424
01:07:23.219 --> 01:07:26.039
She becomes she becomes Stardust.

1425
01:07:26.099 --> 01:07:35.880
I had this dream where the stardust was scooped up by the celestial toy maker, and reconfigured into a real Kylie, and then the doctor would, uh, go and rescue her.

1426
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:39.780
In another Christmas special, would meet her again versus the celestial toy maker.

1427
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:40.679
What a wonderful idea.

1428
01:07:40.739 --> 01:07:46.920
Or she turns into... puddle... a puddly lesbian.

1429
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.119
Oh, that could be a thing.

1430
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:50.820
And makes out with Bill.

1431
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:52.739
Oh, here we go.

1432
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.619
Oh my lord, it's Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore.

1433
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.099
But he's, like, he's so much the romantic lead.

1434
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:12.000
He is so, like, I, you know, I know that you don't like the doctor snogging the companion structured, but I don't mind that here. think we've heard that.

1435
01:08:12.059 --> 01:08:13.320
Oh, there she does.

1436
01:08:13.380 --> 01:08:16.140
She is the Tardis-ish thing really is.

1437
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.079
And even Mr. Upper Middle Class is even sad.

1438
01:08:19.140 --> 01:08:20.100
Yeah, yeah.

1439
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.760
You kind of think out of this, he might actually be redeemed in some way.

1440
01:08:23.819 --> 01:08:25.439
There was this next line.

1441
01:08:25.500 --> 01:08:27.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah. to show that he's still a horrible person.

1442
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:41.579
But he was showing sort of upset and slight embarrassment when the doctor was refusing, you know, the doctor's so clearly in denial about how she can't be saved and there's a shot of Rickston or whatever his name is looking kind of sad.

1443
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.199
I believe it's Prixton.

1444
01:08:43.260 --> 01:08:44.579
Yes, quiet.

1445
01:08:45.300 --> 01:08:47.460
Thank you, don't talk.

1446
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:51.119
Lovely shots. lovely montage.

1447
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:54.720
Charles Palmer's really knocking it out of the park today.

1448
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.159
I know, it's Graham Harper.

1449
01:08:59.220 --> 01:08:59.460
Sorry.

1450
01:09:00.180 --> 01:09:01.979
Graham Harper.

1451
01:09:01.979 --> 01:09:03.659
That was time crash.

1452
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:05.340
Isn't it Peter Moffin?

1453
01:09:07.140 --> 01:09:09.359
It's Ron Jones.

1454
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:11.579
He's learned how to direct.

1455
01:09:12.060 --> 01:09:16.079
I thought it was Warris Hussein. would like to see that.

1456
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:21.720
Oh, So he's going to abandon his home planet of Stowe.

1457
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:24.239
And run off in an all time.

1458
01:09:24.300 --> 01:09:25.079
Why is he going to jail?

1459
01:09:25.140 --> 01:09:25.859
I can't remember.

1460
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.800
Because he perjured himself, basically.

1461
01:09:28.859 --> 01:09:31.260
Because he lied on his resume.

1462
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:33.899
He ate his way through an entire primary school.

1463
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:36.000
I don't know.

1464
01:09:36.060 --> 01:09:40.439
I don't know how Frank Thring, as Frank Thring would say, a primary is.

1465
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:45.899
Nobody even has to go for a medical checkup or anything because then they'll have to go to unit or something, won't he?

1466
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:47.279
And he's got 8 hearts.

1467
01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:51.420
Oh, there's a happy ending.

1468
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:58.439
And like he's he's selling this as if they've attended it's going to be hugely, the doctor's going to be hugely impressed by this happy ending.

1469
01:09:58.500 --> 01:09:59.220
Hooray.

1470
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:00.479
Rickston's rich.

1471
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:06.180
I didn't really want a redemption from Rickston, but I guess that's the point of Christmas.

1472
01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:08.279
No, no, we don't, we don't. don't get a redemption.

1473
01:10:08.340 --> 01:10:12.899
He gets rich and learns nothing and is still a deeply horrible bastard.

1474
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:13.680
But he's still here.

1475
01:10:13.739 --> 01:10:14.760
Yeah, yeah.

1476
01:10:14.819 --> 01:10:18.479
But I mean, then we get this bit of dialogue here about that, don't we?

1477
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:20.460
That's the point of Christmas.

1478
01:10:21.180 --> 01:10:24.239
You have to make...

1479
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:25.739
Make fun with people you hate.

1480
01:10:27.060 --> 01:10:29.159
And David's doing it now.

1481
01:10:31.859 --> 01:10:34.020
Ironic, that's a good line.

1482
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:35.460
I played Rickston Slade was lovely.

1483
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.100
And this lovely old man was a bust.

1484
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:42.359
You're going to be on Blake 7.

1485
01:10:43.739 --> 01:10:45.539
A slave.

1486
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:49.560
And also they don't treat their guests very well in the 4th season.

1487
01:10:49.619 --> 01:10:55.140
No, under no circumstances, agree to repair the spaceship's engine.

1488
01:10:55.260 --> 01:11:00.659
Did you see Pitt Madley's one where he spliced Tom into that moment.

1489
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.300
So you've got Avon saying doctor, you have a minute.

1490
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:04.439
No, this is Bulls Tom.

1491
01:11:04.500 --> 01:11:05.399
That woman, the doctor.

1492
01:11:05.460 --> 01:11:06.779
Yeah, Dr. Blackton.

1493
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.479
You've got yes in a minute and poor Tom.

1494
01:11:09.539 --> 01:11:12.600
Again, it's, it's, um, it's snow.

1495
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:20.159
Great France and great Germany. here we go No, no, it's just France and great.

1496
01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:21.060
And Germany.

1497
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:22.319
Only Britain is great, yeah.

1498
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:24.479
But give us 10 years.

1499
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:27.300
And we'll do something about that.

1500
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:33.659
So this is snow and it is fake, not real snow. again. again.

1501
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:34.439
Okay.

1502
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:36.720
So the Christmas invasion, it's the ballast of snow.

1503
01:11:36.779 --> 01:11:40.380
It's the, the, it's all, yeah, it's the ballast from the sheep.

1504
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:44.460
Christmas Invasion, it's all burned up... isn't it?

1505
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:45.239
Yes.

1506
01:11:45.300 --> 01:11:46.619
Well, at least they're consistent.

1507
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:47.159
Yeah.

1508
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.680
And this one, it's Clive's Clive Swift standard.

1509
01:11:49.739 --> 01:11:52.920
Oh, atmospheric exciting.

1510
01:11:52.979 --> 01:11:54.180
Exmospheric excitation.

1511
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:58.199
I'm just going to press this buttonless. just conveniently inside the Tartar store.

1512
01:11:59.460 --> 01:12:01.260
Oh, well.

1513
01:12:01.260 --> 01:12:05.460
Say, this is our last good Christmas special for a while, spoiler.

1514
01:12:05.939 --> 01:12:07.619
Okay, sorry.

1515
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:13.079
I'm being horrible I can't even remember what next year's one is at the end of season four.

1516
01:12:13.140 --> 01:12:14.340
It involves a king.

1517
01:12:14.460 --> 01:12:16.500
No, still nowhere.

1518
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:17.340
The next doctor.

1519
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.500
Oh, I didn't.

1520
01:12:19.619 --> 01:12:20.159
Oh, okay.

1521
01:12:20.220 --> 01:12:22.020
That felt terribly sad.

1522
01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:25.859
I don't think anyone redeems what happens possibly in season 4 spoilers.

1523
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:27.960
I don't think it's possible to go.

1524
01:12:28.020 --> 01:12:33.539
I mean, this one, it sort of has moments to go forward and it's a lightness of touch, even though there's a sadness.

1525
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:37.920
You know, when he gives him a 1000000 pounds, at the time, I thought, that's not enough.

1526
01:12:37.979 --> 01:12:39.539
Yeah, I was thinking that too.

1527
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:43.859
He sets up a whole charitable foundation and pays for something later on.

1528
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:44.819
What does he pay for?

1529
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:49.079
It would have been nice for $10 million.

1530
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:53.520
It's not even enough to buy a small flat in London.

1531
01:12:53.579 --> 01:12:56.760
Yes, the Mr. Copper Foundation does something really good in season four.

1532
01:12:56.819 --> 01:12:59.100
Yeah, it's in stolen Earther Journey's end or something.

1533
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:00.659
There's some reference too.

1534
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:01.199
Yeah, yeah.

1535
01:13:01.260 --> 01:13:02.640
Harriet Jones mentions it, I think.

1536
01:13:02.699 --> 01:13:04.680
Well, we'll get there eventually.

1537
01:13:07.739 --> 01:13:10.079
Maybe he invests it in...

1538
01:13:10.140 --> 01:13:11.699
This is card of copper.

1539
01:13:12.180 --> 01:13:14.159
It's a copper foundation.

1540
01:13:14.220 --> 01:13:15.600
Spotify.

1541
01:13:16.020 --> 01:13:18.720
He's actually a terrible industrialist.

1542
01:13:18.779 --> 01:13:20.760
He's destroying the planet.

1543
01:13:23.819 --> 01:13:24.960
And a door.

1544
01:13:25.020 --> 01:13:26.460
A dog.

1545
01:13:27.300 --> 01:13:28.979
Oh, door.

1546
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:36.060
You're doing Todd Stick. without even realising it.

1547
01:13:36.060 --> 01:13:39.479
And this is actually a lovely...

1548
01:13:39.539 --> 01:13:40.560
I have a kitchen for the French.

1549
01:13:41.340 --> 01:13:43.260
No, that comes later.

1550
01:13:43.380 --> 01:13:45.840
He's dancing to a Kylie Minogue song.

1551
01:13:45.899 --> 01:13:47.399
The ultra modern Spatoon.

1552
01:13:47.460 --> 01:13:50.159
Why couldn't we have had a Kylie song at the end of Christmas, Kylie?

1553
01:13:53.220 --> 01:13:54.600
No, that's nice.

1554
01:13:54.659 --> 01:13:56.279
There's some nice final shots here.

1555
01:13:56.340 --> 01:13:57.479
They really are beautiful.

1556
01:13:57.539 --> 01:14:04.140
And there's just beautiful emotion from both of them and Mr. Copper, you know, David's great.

1557
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:05.220
And the music here is beautiful.

1558
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:06.060
There she goes.

1559
01:14:06.060 --> 01:14:08.100
Off to see the celestial toy maker.

1560
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:10.560
Off to sea to the celestial toy.

1561
01:14:10.619 --> 01:14:13.079
Oh, that's not going to go well for anyone.

1562
01:14:16.260 --> 01:14:18.239
That's it, isn't it?

1563
01:14:18.300 --> 01:14:19.260
I know, it does facts.

1564
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:20.819
And it tumbles off into the tents.

1565
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:26.880
Well, or Cardiff Bay.

1566
01:14:26.939 --> 01:14:28.020
Whatever it is.

1567
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:30.180
The Ghost of Adjoc is shot that.

1568
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:31.260
That has just come down.

1569
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:33.000
Oh, I forgot that, wasn't it?

1570
01:14:33.060 --> 01:14:33.779
I've forgotten that too.

1571
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:34.619
Oh, wow.

1572
01:14:34.619 --> 01:14:38.100
And the ghost of Matthew Waterhouse who's still in the fluid link somewhere.

1573
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:39.779
Oh here we go.

1574
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:41.039
Oh, so comedian.

1575
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:44.819
Clearly, we do have a fair amount in the can by the time this...

1576
01:14:44.939 --> 01:14:45.359
Yeah we did.

1577
01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:47.279
By the time it airs, yes.

1578
01:14:47.340 --> 01:14:51.960
No, but I meant when they were, yeah, this was shot. sort of 5 months before it was broadcast.

1579
01:14:52.020 --> 01:14:55.979
Like, you know, the traditional Christmas special shot in July.

1580
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:56.760
Yeah, yeah.

1581
01:14:56.819 --> 01:14:57.960
The hottest time of the year.

1582
01:14:58.020 --> 01:14:59.340
Yeah.

1583
01:14:59.340 --> 01:15:01.020
Well, we could saw that last year, certainly.

1584
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:03.000
Oh wow.

1585
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:06.300
There's actually a lot in this trailer, isn't there?

1586
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:06.899
Yeah, yeah.

1587
01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:09.840
They're from the 1st two, channel 4 recording blocks.

1588
01:15:09.899 --> 01:15:11.579
Yeah, the 1st 5 episodes.

1589
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:13.680
Donna's got real Liz Sladden.

1590
01:15:13.739 --> 01:15:15.119
We saw Agatha Christie in there?

1591
01:15:15.180 --> 01:15:16.140
Yeah, we did.

1592
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:16.800
That's much later.

1593
01:15:16.859 --> 01:15:23.760
Though the Agatha Christie episode was supposed to be broadcasted the very, like, you know, episode 3 or 4 at some and was pushed way back.

1594
01:15:23.819 --> 01:15:25.859
It's like the 1st 7 episodes.

1595
01:15:26.579 --> 01:15:30.840
But they already had that in the can, is what I'm saying. was supposed to be brought across the team was pushed back.

1596
01:15:30.899 --> 01:15:31.920
Macononey?

1597
01:15:31.979 --> 01:15:35.340
Has anyone seen and you just, oh, yes, that's the same face.

1598
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:37.319
That's a great way to end it too.

1599
01:15:37.380 --> 01:15:41.159
With a vicar saying what an entertaining evening.

1600
01:15:41.220 --> 01:15:43.260
It has been very entertaining.

1601
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:43.979
Yeah, it really has.

1602
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.220
It really has been. was much better than it ought to be.

1603
01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:48.600
Oh no, I agree.

1604
01:15:48.659 --> 01:15:49.680
I think it's really really great.

1605
01:15:49.739 --> 01:15:53.760
And there's a lovely, jolly rollicking pace, which I don't remember.

1606
01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:54.960
This titles, my gosh.

1607
01:15:55.020 --> 01:15:56.279
Lots of titles.

1608
01:15:56.340 --> 01:15:59.939
No, I don't remember it being that rap at all that well that tight.

1609
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:02.279
No.

1610
01:16:02.340 --> 01:16:06.479
And we say as we say farewell to Russell Toby.

1611
01:16:06.539 --> 01:16:06.899
Yeah.

1612
01:16:07.500 --> 01:16:09.000
All right.

1613
01:16:09.060 --> 01:16:10.920
Well, I think we might wind it up.

1614
01:16:10.979 --> 01:16:11.819
What do you think?

1615
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:13.800
Any final thoughts, gentlemen?

1616
01:16:13.859 --> 01:16:15.600
Kali was great.

1617
01:16:15.659 --> 01:16:16.680
Kali's lovely.

1618
01:16:16.739 --> 01:16:18.840
Best Russell Christmas special.

1619
01:16:18.899 --> 01:16:19.619
Hands down.

1620
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:20.699
Yeah, I think that's fair.

1621
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:24.239
And the forcemeat stuffing award goes to Russell too.

1622
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:26.819
I like Russell Toby.

1623
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:30.539
I didn't comment on the new version of the theme, wasn't it great?

1624
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:31.439
No, loved it.

1625
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.500
Actually notice this.

1626
01:16:34.500 --> 01:16:34.859
No.

1627
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:36.720
Doesn't feel that much different, does it?

1628
01:16:36.779 --> 01:16:38.340
No, it's a lot more orchestrated.

1629
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:39.479
A bit boomier.

1630
01:16:39.539 --> 01:16:40.199
Yeah, yeah.

1631
01:16:40.260 --> 01:16:41.399
More violins.

1632
01:16:41.460 --> 01:16:42.600
All right.

1633
01:16:42.659 --> 01:16:45.119
Well, dear listener, that's all we have time for this week.

1634
01:16:45.180 --> 01:16:53.100
We'll be back early next year with our coverage of series 4 and back ridiculously soon for our series 12 coverage on Jody and Taterra.

1635
01:16:53.159 --> 01:17:08.340
In the meantime, you can find us wherever you get your podcasts and you can keep up with us at Flight through Entirety on Facebook, at FTE Podcast on Twitter, and on our website, Flight through Entirety.com, where you'll find links to our other podcasts, Bondfinger, and Jody into Terra.

1636
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:15.779
Until next time, may your Christmas be joyous and somewhat less final than Astrid Peth's was in 2007.

1637
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.300
Thank you very much for listening and good night.

1638
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:19.079
Good night.

1639
01:17:19.140 --> 01:17:19.619
See you soon.

1640
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:20.159
Good then.