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Hello, Delissa, and welcome back to Flight Through Entirety, the

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only Doctor Who commentary podcast that firmly believes that no

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Christmas can be truly festive without generous helpings of Clive

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Swift.

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I'm Nathan.

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I'm James.

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I'm Todd.

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Oh, and I'm a Harper Mark's cropped yellow fright wig on a singing

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budgie for this one.

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Oh, hi, Kalin. wonderful.

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So it's Christmas. and we are watching Voyage of the Damned.

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This will be our last episode for a little bit, but we will be

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back next year for our coverage.

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Well, Bondfinger, for our coverage of series 4.

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We have our Blu-ray ready to go.

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We're on the menu screen and we're going to be pressing the play

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button when you next hear me say the code word miserable.

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So the next time I say that word, I want you to press play.

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Oh, he's hoping this works, okay, are we ready to go?

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miserable.

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And we're off.

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I'm taking it personally, Todd.

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How about you?

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Present company excluded.

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Very confused, Richard.

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Oh, here's David, looking very glum.

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I don't remember being miserable watching this.

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I can't even remember doing a proper commentary on this, did we?

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No, no, this is it.

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We're just doing this I'll be doing it now.

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We've been doing it now. doing it now, Richard.

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Well, it does look like my apartment.

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That is my bathroom and that probably is my cat holed up in the in

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the wall behind the dummy.

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That's my life for the last 24 hours.

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Not a euphemism.

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What?

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Very much like the Titanic. very much like this podcast.

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So this is huge, isn't it?

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Is this Richard or Todd?

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Tods will not.

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Ratings?

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I think it was 12.8.

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No, 13.3?

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Oh, even, even, even more, I think.

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Isn't it the virtually the highest rated episode to this point, it

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is.

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Is that it's the highest rate.

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It's still the highest rated episode of the new series.

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Yeah And is it number one or number 3 for the week?

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It was number 2 for the week?

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After EastEnders.

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After EastEnders had broadcast straight after with an extra

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600,000 or so.

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It's the 8th most watched Doctor Who story of all time.

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Wow.

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But didn't City of Deer?

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City of Death was the highest, but then there was, so it was City

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of Death 4 was the highest, then three, then Destiny of the Daleks

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4.

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Wow.

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Oh, Bellamy Calendar.

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Arc and Space 2, but none of the other parts.

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And the web planet.

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Of course, the web planet.

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So the web planet rated better than this did.

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And you can see why.

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Oh, so it's giving away that this is the Titanic, but it's

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probably not the Titanic we were expecting.

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Yeah, because now we see we see Jimmy V there as Banacafalata.

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So suddenly there's an alien.

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Oh, and robot angels, obviously.

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But wasn't it an exciting moment for the listeners?

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Kylie Minogue.

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Soul 3.

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I just spat a piece of Christmas duck and said, what the hell are

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they doing not paying off Terry Jones and Douglas Adams?

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Yes, Starship Titanic, which was a...

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How did we get away with this?

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So the original, the working title for this story was Starship

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Titanic, until someone pointed out that they were infringing on

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Douglas Adams's copyright.

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But just, no, seriously.

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I mean, really?

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DD, no.

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And he probably had read it, read the book at some point.

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But also, you know, like that that gay man book is about a

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starship Titanic that isn't a disaster.

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Well, the name Titanic, like it wasn't going to be. of course it

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is.

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Of course it is.

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And there's robots and things on it.

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It's Douglas Adams.

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Probably robot monks.

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Voyage of the damn.

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It looks spectacular, doesn't it?

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I mean, that looks amazing.

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And that's our opening shot from Rose that the Titanic is kind of

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sailing in front of with the moon in the background.

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It's the 1st Doctor Who story of the new series that they upscaled

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into HD for broadcast.

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Director James Hall.

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I got it wrong several podcasts ago.

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Did you?

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Was it James Palmer?

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No, James Strong.

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Charles Palmer, where you said.

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Yeah, yeah.

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James Strong, isn't it?

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James Hawes.

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Oh, I thought it was James Strong.

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Seems we were both wrong.

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There you go.

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We'll come up with a few other people who directed this as well.

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Russell Toby.

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Russell Toby.

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Yes.

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So they do tell a story about Russell Tovey on the commentary, and

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it's Phil Collinson and Russell T. Davies guffawing in a very kind

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of inappropriately sexual way about a story with Russell Tovey and

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a jet ski.

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And his ears.

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And.

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They say you will never know what it is that we're laughing about

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listeners at home. think we do.

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It wasn't downhill skiing.

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So what had he been in at this point?

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Appeal to balcony.

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Was he in being human yet?

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He wasn't being him.

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That's where I knew him from.

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Oh, okay. have absolutely nothing but discomfort with Russell Toby

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on my screen.

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There is something about his, I could be horribly wrong.

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It could just be his actor's style, but I'm picking up all those

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people you just shouldn't date.

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Speaking of which here's one.

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Well, I can see what he's doing.

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It's actually just an older version.

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I'm not going to comment on that because I've heard stories.

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I just get that sense of a flaming narcissist, to be honest with

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you.

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I gay man. could be horribly wrong.

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I remember actually being a bit relieved when he left being human

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because the boy who replaced him was lovely.

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So the boy that replaced him as the brother of the girl from

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Misfits.

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And Jason cannot watch him because he looks too much like his

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sister.

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I was like, oh, he's very pretty.

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He's like, no.

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Don't you love how Kylie has dragged up entirely like Jodie

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Whitaker's grandmother, Gracie Fields.

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She does look like, I know it's she's got a period look, but look

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and I love loving Kylie. she and I are only a few months different

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in age, that she really does look like someone's granny in this.

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Passenger 57 is Wesley Snipes reference, apparently.

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Really?

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There was a film.

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Passenger 57.

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He's passenger 57 and he tries to save a plane from hijackers.

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Information.

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Well, that's another thing.

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It's like saying Chan or Tho at the, you know, at the end of each

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line.

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They have to say information even when they're about to kill you.

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I love this introduction because, you know, he just wanders around

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and sort of sees, we see enough of the characters just appearing

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and, you know, making it clear who they are, but he doesn't

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interact with them.

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So it's called It's called the Titanic, but no one knows about how

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the Titanic story ends.

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That is a deliberate max headroom as well.

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My God, we're showing our age, aren't we?

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And there is that...

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These robots, of course, remind us all of the robots of death.

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And all those calendars where we 1st saw gentlemen in swimwear in

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the 1980s.

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I think some subscribed it as at the time as Herobots of Death

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meets the Poseidon event.

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Well, I mean, it's master race caterers.

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They all look like Harry and Christmas decorations.

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Oh hello.

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But it's, it is, I mean, this stuff too.

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That's very robots of death where, you know, the broken robots are

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up against the wall and everything.

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It is very definitely Russell just mining the history of the

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program for things that he knows work and for things that don't

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need lots of explanation.

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You know, like homicidal robots.

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He doesn't need to give us a science fiction explanation.

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So we can be stuffed full of turkey and alcohol and still

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understand what's going on.

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Couldn't they have, they have been from, from the planet Caldor

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whatever.

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Maybe they are.

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So had Kylie been ill?

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Yes, this is her comeback after her cancer.

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It's her 1st action role after cancer.

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Yeah, and like I think she does look...

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She's looking fantastic in that case.

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That's so cool.

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I need to say this.

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I've been a Kylie Minogue fan since locomotion in 1987.

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Yeah, right?

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Like, and I adore her as an entertainer, as a singer.

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And I just want to say that the Australian locomotion is still the

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best thing ever. and SAW remake of the locomotion is a piece of

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crap.

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And I just need to get that off my chest.

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But I don't rate her much as an actress.

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Not a very good actress.

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And anything that she's been in, whether it be biodome or street

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fighter or that thing with the exploding whale or neighbours.

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This is okay in the delinquents.

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Or in the Kath and Kim Christmas special.

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She does all the right moods.

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She says all the right things.

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She hits the mark, she's doing it all, but I find that there's a

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lack of depth.

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I don't know whether it's her voice or there's something that I

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struggle with and maybe it's because I prefer as a singer and

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entertainer and all that sort of thing.

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And I really hated this hair, hated it. absolutely hated it at the

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time.

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It reminded me of the delinquent's hair.

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It's not as bad now.

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She had her wardrobe.

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But again, she is coming back from being ill.

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She does look a little bit sort of tired.

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I think, I think, though, she's not really required to act because

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she's required to get 13000000 people watching the episode.

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And I think just to be kind of charming and likeable.

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And I think she does manage that.

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I think she does too.

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I thought that at the time I watched this, I thought she was the

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worst thing you know.

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I thought she was going to be ripped to shreds by everybody.

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But in fact, everybody just loved her.

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So whenever I come back to this, I, she's so warm.

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Yeah, that's it.

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I do find I do find her much warmer and charming and every time I

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watch it, I like even more.

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This is my favourite Russell T. Davies Christmas special.

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Yeah, I'd have to have good reasons too.

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And I just love it.

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It's called The Voyage of the Damned.

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It's just fantastic.

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Give me a disaster anytime.

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British TV at Christmas, is that right?

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basically.

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And so that's Russell is trying to recreate the Poseidon adventure

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here.

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I've never seen the Poseide adventure.

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Oh, here we go.

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That is so good, isn't it?

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That's Russell immediately gets them our sympathy, puts them on

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our side by having rich people mock them.

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Yeah.

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Also, I mean, he wrote the character of soon for Debbie Chasen.

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So have you seen her lately?

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She was going to be in... this lady.

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She was going to be a Slaveen in the Sarah Jane Adventures, Janine

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Slaveen in...

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No, seriously.

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In a Sarah Jane Adventures, and she said, no, no, no, I'd really

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like to be in Doctor Who.

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There's another thing that the Sonic Screwdriver can do.

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And she's in this, and again, I actually think Marvin and Foon are

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just about the best characters in this.

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And Russell is such a complete, he's bastard.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We've been saying this over the past few weeks of the actual

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podcast.

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How horrible he is sometimes.

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And he really genuinely makes us like these people.

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And two, Russell is a bit fat phobic, I think, sometimes.

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There's a lot of self-down things.

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Exactly right, because he's a large man and has had a gay man

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who's probably struggled with this.

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So there, you know, there's lots of cracks about people being

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fat.

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But I think the fact that they're fat makes us like them more as

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well.

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So, you know, like I think that's a kind of nice thing.

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I just love all the touches in this.

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All the little background pictures, all the costumes, all the

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details.

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It's just beautiful to sort of watch how they've decorated the

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whole thing.

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And here's who, Charles Palmer?

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Jeffrey Palmer.

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Jeffrey.

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His son was the director.

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I don't think he's a surgeon.

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No, but he should be.

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He should be.

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Oh look who it is.

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The famous miserable bastard.

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Mr. Copper.

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Hence us.

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He is playing to type, though.

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You can't, you can't, you know, dismiss his performance as being

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anything but very similitudinous.

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Did he just flash it kindly?

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tree ornament, okay.

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No, no, it's a Blake 7.

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Oh my gosh, it is food.

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This is hilarious.

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The country of UK.

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Yes, only... only Britain's great.

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Not anymore.

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Not if we can help it.

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His wife Mary.

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Russell always has a dig doesn't he?

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Yeah At Christmas, he can poke all us.

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Oh, dear.

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But even, this makes me laugh.

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It does.

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But even the tone of this feels very Terry Jones and riding after

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Douglas.

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Arthopedia.

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The interwebs.

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Oh, and here we go, Banacafalata.

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Because he's dressed as a Christmas conquer, isn't he?

334
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Yeah.

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Well, his relatives come back for David Tennant's last episode.

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Correct.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Or distant cousins. played by him again?

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No, the Vin Vocce.

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Remember the 2 green people with the spiky hands?

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And here we are on Earth.

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This is really the actual only Christmassy thing about this about

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this episode.

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Oh my goodness.

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And I've forgotten just who we're about to be introduced to.

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Yes.

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Yes, Kylie. right there.

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And there's no one around at all?

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No.

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They're all very scared.

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Yeah, now everyone leaves London after the last 2 Christmas

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specials.

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And that's really good as well because it doesn't work from a

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world building point of view.

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Like it just doesn't work, but it's wonderful.

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You know what this street is called?

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No.

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Donovan Street?

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Stop it.

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Like, you can't see it in the quality of the video, but they

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specifically hung a sign up, saying on a wall that's at Donovan

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Street.

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Just to troll Kylie.

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Are there any other Kylie references that we should be?

365
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No, this is a Bernard of Cripples.

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Isn't he lovely?

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This is so great, isn't it?

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Wow.

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Just brilliant.

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And this one little bit part, they get him in.

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It's massive overcasting for this tiny part because, you know, he's

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so fantastic.

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It's again perfect for Christmas special.

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Are you saying this was not a setup for snow?

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No.

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Well, remember, remember what happens in season 4 is originally

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they'd been going to have Donna's father who had appeared in the

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last Christmas special and he was ill.

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Yeah, he was too ill.

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And so they...

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He died during the making of episode one.

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Well, episode two.

383
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So he is in episode one.

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Yeah, and they reshoot all of the bits with Bernard in them.

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So it is just this sort of wonderful, happy accident.

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Well, not for Donna's father.

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Well, no, but it's funny. how certain showrunners, this sort of

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thing happens where they don't plan things, but things happen for

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a reason and it turns out.

390
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Yes, yeah.

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Well, we had that talk, I think, with.

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Oh, he's great, isn't he?

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That's why that's why he's national treasure.

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It's all in the eyes.

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This episode is full of people who have been in Doctor Who

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before.

397
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Yeah.

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I mean, Jeffrey Palmer?

399
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Yep, yep.

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Clive Swift. and then Bernard Cribbins in vinyl.

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Golly.

402
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But we've also, haven't we done the Avengers episode?

403
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No, I'm sorry, it's curry on spying.

404
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It all feels the same thing when he's in a Barbara Eden toga and

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pantaloons.

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That was the best.

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I think it's just a terrible week, Torch.

408
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She herself is charming, but it's nice to see her playing my age.

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I've worn to her so much more.

410
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Why did you not like her?

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I don't know.

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I guess I'm just super critical of her.

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Anything new.

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Yes, we know that.

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We know that.

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No, I, but no, it's an interesting take.

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I know, I don't know.

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I just had huge high expectations.

419
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When I saw that here, it just put me off completely.

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Look, I agree with you.

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I remember at the time thinking that her performance was weak, but

422
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I think it does exactly what it needs to do, I think, in, you know

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I think. in a 1st episode.

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I just hate that hair.

425
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I just wish you had the hair from the what kind of fool video

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clip.

427
00:17:26.460 --> 00:17:27.000
Some people would.

428
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Some people will know what I'm talking about anyway.

429
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You're right that someone like that should have had she should

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have had her own, you know, budget for that.

431
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She or just brought someone in to be her own hair and makeup

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person.

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Because BBC hair is not Kylie hair.

434
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Did you see both Murray Gold and Ben Foster in that band?

435
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Oh, really?

436
00:17:47.819 --> 00:17:48.359
No, really?

437
00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:48.779
Wow.

438
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I love this guy too.

439
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The horrible guy.

440
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He doesn't say well.

441
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Yeah.

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See, I thought I saw Matt Fruer in the crowd, but I can't find him

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on any of the lists.

444
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Matt Threwett just after we were talking about it. played Max

445
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Hedrum.

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But I know I don't think he is in there.

447
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The fellow playing Capricorn is superb.

448
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I'm getting, it's just another rhythm.

449
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I can see Brendan doing that.

450
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What?

451
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Doing what?

452
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Oh, really?

453
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I love him because he looks like, um, I'm just trying to think of

454
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who was that wonderful actor who was in Carol Burnett and played

455
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the boss in 9 to 5 with Lily Tomlin.

456
00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.579
Oh, I know who you're talking about, but I can't.

457
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Dabney Coleman.

458
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He looks like thank you.

459
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He looks like, how can we remember Dabney Coleman?

460
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It's a while ago.

461
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I love 9 to five. that he's playing Dabney Coleman?

462
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And Jeffrey Palmer's playing a bulldog because that's what he

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always does.

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And he's like, and even the site, even I think this, every part

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he's ever played has just led up to this where he's, I wish he had

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the white John Smith beard from the Titanic captain and because

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he'd look great as a Christmas.

468
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It's really good getting him in, isn't it?

469
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It's so wonderful.

470
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Palmer or Toby?

471
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Palmer is his Doctor Who royalty, and he's always been...

472
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And Russell Toby is our Roberta Toby, just rebooted.

473
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Well, he's future Doctor Who Royalty, I guess. he will be back.

474
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They promised me Erdle's men.

475
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He's reverted Toby's cousin.

476
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Did you know that?

477
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Another Doctor Who facts.

478
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Alternative, yes.

479
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Fun fact.

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So they want David Jason for the Clive Swift.

481
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No, Clive Swift is great.

482
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No, Clive's, no, nobody, nobody's.

483
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Nobody does it better.

484
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Yeah, well, I was going to say, nobody transmits pretty much

485
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unveiled menace and disgust like...

486
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He has art of disdain for absolutely everyone involved and

487
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everyone watching.

488
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It sort of ruins knowing what he was like in real life sort of

489
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ruins a bit of his performances in this and in keeping up

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appearances.

491
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Because you know he's playing truth.

492
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Yeah, because we know that he's really much more like Joe Bell in

493
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real life.

494
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Looks much more like a hyacinth bouquet in real life.

495
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Maybe he just doesn't...

496
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Yeah, I know he is, isn't he?

497
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Was.

498
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Are any of these people still with us?

499
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Is Clive still with us?

500
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No, he passed away.

501
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So we're allowed to say all of this.

502
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Any of Russell Toby's ex-partners?

503
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So is that probably...

504
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Are we allowed to talk about that?

505
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You're all going to die.

506
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Poor old Russell.

507
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It's not going to be silly gate all over again.

508
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No.

509
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Although there's a lot of material.

510
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Rand Blunt.

511
00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:39.539
Rand Blonde in Doctor Who?

512
00:20:39.539 --> 00:20:40.619
in modern Doctor Who?

513
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But I guess they really needed that because the suit is so dark

514
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you can't really see.

515
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But then he seems to recover from a, you know, reasonably well by

516
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the end of the episode.

517
00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:48.480
Yeah.

518
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I've been shot.

519
00:20:50.579 --> 00:20:52.380
But no, I'm fine.

520
00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:53.640
Yeah.

521
00:20:53.700 --> 00:20:55.200
Wow.

522
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Like, and quite close to, oh, well, they're aliens, so maybe his

523
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heart isn't there.

524
00:20:59.819 --> 00:21:01.019
Maybe it just sort of punctured her.

525
00:21:01.019 --> 00:21:03.539
See, that's another thing too.

526
00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.240
This is our 1st set of aliens that look exactly like human

527
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beings.

528
00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:10.380
And it was something that happened in classic Doctor Who, but in

529
00:21:10.380 --> 00:21:14.160
modern Doctor Who, only Galifraians, only Time Lords look like

530
00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:14.880
human beings.

531
00:21:15.059 --> 00:21:18.059
And this is the 1st time that we've ever done it, and they're not

532
00:21:18.059 --> 00:21:21.900
humans from the future or doing sort of time tourism or anything.

533
00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:24.000
They are from a completely different planet.

534
00:21:24.059 --> 00:21:27.480
And Russell realised too late that he didn't make that clear

535
00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.299
enough in dialogue.

536
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.900
Well, I think he wanted to do something very minor and cheap to

537
00:21:33.900 --> 00:21:35.640
them to make them look like aliens.

538
00:21:35.700 --> 00:21:37.440
But I think, like, who cares?

539
00:21:37.500 --> 00:21:39.359
You could make them look like Trill.

540
00:21:39.420 --> 00:21:41.160
Well, that sort of thing.

541
00:21:41.220 --> 00:21:43.380
But it would have spoiled this, I think.

542
00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:45.359
I think they did need to look like you.

543
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:46.140
Run to the left.

544
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:51.119
Yes, well, the famous panicky idiots running around trope that we

545
00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:52.319
need for this point in the story.

546
00:21:52.380 --> 00:21:56.220
Or just have a kind of explanation for it.

547
00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.759
Yeah, like they're wearing some sort of perception filters.

548
00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:02.220
Oh, yeah, they've been through a transformation arch.

549
00:22:02.339 --> 00:22:04.380
Hey, boomtish.

550
00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:08.579
Gentlemen and ladies, because, you know, we are all exciting.

551
00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:10.559
And trees and multiform. is exciting.

552
00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.019
How much?

553
00:22:13.019 --> 00:22:15.240
How much of season 4 had been?

554
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:16.799
There you go.

555
00:22:16.859 --> 00:22:18.299
D8?

556
00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:23.339
Do they shoot this, they shoot this with series three?

557
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:25.259
This was shot in July.

558
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:25.920
Okay.

559
00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:27.240
With season.

560
00:22:27.299 --> 00:22:27.720
Oh, okay.

561
00:22:27.779 --> 00:22:29.519
So had Catherine Tate been signed up?

562
00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:32.700
I think by that point, yes.

563
00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:33.359
Yeah.

564
00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:40.380
But David Tennant's mother died in the 1st couple of weeks of

565
00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:44.519
production and so that's why he kind of pops in and out of shots

566
00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.180
quite a lot, which works quite well. like me on this microphone.

567
00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:55.740
Which works quite well, but it was because he gave him like a week

568
00:22:55.740 --> 00:23:00.359
and a half off to be with her as she died and attend her funeral.

569
00:23:01.619 --> 00:23:04.500
Amazing that he's keeping it together, really.

570
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:07.259
Well, that was what everyone said, though.

571
00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.319
I think at the time was just how incredibly professional. was.

572
00:23:10.380 --> 00:23:13.140
If you've ever been through all of this, you're so grateful to be

573
00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:15.660
working because you can block that part of yourself off.

574
00:23:15.779 --> 00:23:18.240
Otherwise, you're just in the misery and stress all the time.

575
00:23:18.299 --> 00:23:20.940
It's really helped, especially acting, you get to be somebody

576
00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:21.660
else.

577
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:22.200
Yeah.

578
00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:22.920
Yeah.

579
00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:26.880
Oh, he's, ladies, gentlemen, and Banacafalata.

580
00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:32.640
I thought that was Matt Frewer, but the Stuart Stanley.

581
00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:33.480
I love this.

582
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.460
That is not matched for for the gentle listener.

583
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:36.839
Oh, it's not dumb.

584
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.359
This guy is great too.

585
00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:41.759
Is he about to tell us that everything is going to be fine?

586
00:23:41.819 --> 00:23:43.559
horribly tied.

587
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:46.200
The deck chairs will be rearranged.

588
00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:49.200
We're very much alive for the moment.

589
00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:52.259
Actually, I think he's terribly famous, and if I had IMDb in front

590
00:23:52.259 --> 00:23:52.559
of me.

591
00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:53.940
Who played the Great Intelligence?

592
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.440
Richard E. Grant.

593
00:23:55.500 --> 00:23:58.440
He's sort of like a younger...

594
00:23:58.559 --> 00:23:59.279
Here we go.

595
00:23:59.339 --> 00:24:00.420
Everything's going to be fine.

596
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:01.619
Let me open this door.

597
00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.740
Oh yes, no, don't do that.

598
00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:10.740
Oh, we knew he wasn't going to last, though.

599
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:11.279
No, no, no.

600
00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:12.660
It is a disaster movie.

601
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:13.740
I had a feeling.

602
00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:17.819
But we really just need Shelly Winters.

603
00:24:17.819 --> 00:24:19.019
Yeah.

604
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:21.960
Well, I guess is that well, I guess that's why we've got food

605
00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:22.200
yeah.

606
00:24:22.500 --> 00:24:29.339
What's that quote from Stephen Moffatt about Russell really loves

607
00:24:29.339 --> 00:24:34.259
to make you fall in love with a character and then melt them.

608
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:35.519
Melt them horribly.

609
00:24:35.579 --> 00:24:36.180
Yeah.

610
00:24:36.180 --> 00:24:38.579
Wickson's sleigh.

611
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:39.779
Bixton Slay.

612
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:40.619
I didn't even know his name.

613
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.420
That's fabulous.

614
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:47.519
It's a proper sort of 80s, you know, um, do you remember that guy

615
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:48.539
in Futurama?

616
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:54.059
He's like, he's basically, um, uh, thatcherous kind of...

617
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:54.839
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

618
00:24:54.900 --> 00:24:57.420
It's that that horrible sort of 80s. is a stockbroker.

619
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.720
I mean, we see him doing deals on his phone. just done a line of

620
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:02.220
coke. off screen.

621
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:05.039
Oh, look, there's more dead people out the window.

622
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:09.660
This is some super weird choice for Christmas, isn't it?

623
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:13.920
Don't you think Christmas is kind of synonymous with sort of

624
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:15.299
disaster movies and Jaws.

625
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:16.380
Yeah, I guess.

626
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:20.759
We are going to like spoiler alert off Kylie by the end of the

627
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:20.940
thing.

628
00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:22.920
I didn't know that.

629
00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:23.940
Oh, sorry, James.

630
00:25:24.539 --> 00:25:26.819
She'll be fine.

631
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:28.619
There's the little blue box.

632
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.680
It's such a shame that Clive you didn't get to go in at Astrid, I

633
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:32.220
should say.

634
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:32.700
Yeah.

635
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.440
Holden Astrid.

636
00:25:35.460 --> 00:25:40.259
Russell did consider us seeing her, but they went, oh, no, I don't

637
00:25:40.259 --> 00:25:41.700
want to get in the way of her musical career.

638
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.420
No, no, no, what I meant was, in this episode, not to actually be

639
00:25:45.420 --> 00:25:47.819
inside the Tartar console room for, like, you know, a couple of

640
00:25:47.819 --> 00:25:48.480
minutes or something.

641
00:25:48.539 --> 00:25:49.500
Would she have been up for it?

642
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.619
No, she said she was too...

643
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:54.119
She was too busy, but she is a fan.

644
00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:55.619
She's really not bad.

645
00:25:56.819 --> 00:25:58.799
She was at the time.

646
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:04.019
Wasn't she in the middle of just finishing her homecoming tour?

647
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.740
Oh, I just love it when you get those, sorry, 2006, 2007.

648
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.900
I just had Hayden Christensen in bed wank shot. with that.

649
00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:15.480
Homecoming is the one with the cybermen.

650
00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:18.180
Like she got Cybermen on stage.

651
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:19.500
Will Baker doing that.

652
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:20.880
Yeah, because Will Baker's a huge fan.

653
00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:23.579
Stunning in that and had nice hair, didn't she, Todd?

654
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:24.660
Nice hair.

655
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:30.480
Well, she seems to be dressed as a Sexy Mavellan as well. in that

656
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:32.339
in that concert tour.

657
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.140
I think Bill's trying to tell us.

658
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:36.299
She was destined to be in Doctor Who.

659
00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:39.180
I liked her to come now as Jody's grand.

660
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:40.980
I think that would be great. would be great.

661
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:41.940
Grandma.

662
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:43.500
Do the accent. doing the accent, grand.

663
00:26:44.099 --> 00:26:48.240
I'm honestly expecting, gosh, who are we getting this year, Doctor

664
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:48.539
Who?

665
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.240
Honestly expecting Susan Foreman, Ace.

666
00:26:51.299 --> 00:26:53.640
Only the upper middle class players.

667
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.460
That's why I'm on this podcast.

668
00:26:59.460 --> 00:27:02.339
I've got to say, how does everyone feel?

669
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:03.119
The lighting.

670
00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:03.779
I'm not sure.

671
00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:06.240
I mean the direction's fine, but the lighting is gorgeous in

672
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:06.480
this.

673
00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:10.859
They've done a really good amount of work getting colour palettes

674
00:27:10.859 --> 00:27:11.039
right?

675
00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:12.660
It's usually the last thing anybody gets.

676
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.240
It looks like Russell Toby had had a really hot curry.

677
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.940
Again, we're not allowed to say anything about Russell Dobey, are

678
00:27:20.940 --> 00:27:21.240
we?

679
00:27:21.299 --> 00:27:25.740
It's, I mean, this period does a lot of sort of coloured gels and

680
00:27:25.740 --> 00:27:27.480
things, like quite a lot.

681
00:27:27.539 --> 00:27:30.599
And, you know, think about the Tartar set and the way that that's

682
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.079
lit as well, where everything's sort of green or orange.

683
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.119
Well, they're using a quote, isn't it?

684
00:27:36.180 --> 00:27:36.900
You're right.

685
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.779
Yes, James, because they do green and orange.

686
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:41.940
He loved that sort of colour gel thing.

687
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.240
But is it actually a physical writing effect or is it all done

688
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:45.599
digital?

689
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:46.380
No that's physical.

690
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:48.599
I don't think it's peak word. don't know who it is.

691
00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:49.319
I could be wrong.

692
00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:52.559
Yeah, it costs too much and takes so much time to do it any other

693
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:52.740
way.

694
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.759
Didn't he do a lot of the production design on this?

695
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:58.500
I thought he took over later.

696
00:27:58.559 --> 00:27:59.460
I could be quite wrong, though.

697
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:00.059
I don't know.

698
00:28:00.180 --> 00:28:00.720
I don't know.

699
00:28:01.019 --> 00:28:02.579
Here we go.

700
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:03.240
Here's the plan.

701
00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:04.799
Because this is still a factory.

702
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.380
It's a sort of classic.

703
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.960
It's a nylon factory.

704
00:28:10.019 --> 00:28:10.920
Okay, I believe.

705
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.339
Hershey bars and nylon stockings.

706
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.500
It's very wartime.

707
00:28:16.619 --> 00:28:18.539
Oh, here we go.

708
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:19.559
His hero moment.

709
00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:19.980
Yeah.

710
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.619
And more information than we've had about Gallifrey and

711
00:28:22.619 --> 00:28:22.920
everything.

712
00:28:22.980 --> 00:28:26.160
Yeah. and the doctor's age and everything like that, up to this

713
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:26.339
point.

714
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:26.759
Here we go.

715
00:28:26.819 --> 00:28:29.039
Well, they're looking at a trailer.

716
00:28:29.099 --> 00:28:30.480
Oh, big explosion.

717
00:28:30.539 --> 00:28:32.099
Well timed explosion in the back.

718
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:32.759
Another one?

719
00:28:32.819 --> 00:28:35.880
See, more than more information than we've had thus far.

720
00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:39.539
Wow.

721
00:28:40.380 --> 00:28:44.279
And I have my own show.

722
00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:45.660
That's right.

723
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:47.099
I'm super famous.

724
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.140
No, I love those speeches.

725
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.059
He does it so well.

726
00:28:51.059 --> 00:28:51.480
Yeah.

727
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.079
As little children, we love them as silly grown ups, we love

728
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:55.200
them.

729
00:28:55.259 --> 00:28:55.859
Is that the moon?

730
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.859
Yeah, on the side of the moon and just waiting behind the...

731
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.779
It's the earth and its associated moon.

732
00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:03.539
Yay.

733
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:08.400
You know, there was Jody does get a big speech like that in The

734
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:09.839
Woman Who Fell to Earth.

735
00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:16.259
And I just, like, the Murray, you know, absolutely does all that

736
00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.480
he can to sell that big giant speech.

737
00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:21.420
But because Akinola's stuff is a little bit more kind of

738
00:29:21.420 --> 00:29:25.200
atmospheric and a bit less kind of grandiose.

739
00:29:25.259 --> 00:29:27.359
It just seemed to fall flat a little bit.

740
00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:32.700
But, um, but it's a very sort of new series thing.

741
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.759
And, you know, everyone's at home full of turkey.

742
00:29:35.819 --> 00:29:38.819
We all want to cheer and that's a great moment for us to cheer, I

743
00:29:38.819 --> 00:29:38.940
think.

744
00:29:39.059 --> 00:29:41.460
And it's our mission statement, isn't it?

745
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.259
You know, everyone gets through here alone.

746
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:44.640
How does that go?

747
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:46.980
Everyone's.

748
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.680
Some people are alive at the end, I guess.

749
00:29:49.740 --> 00:29:52.380
One, two, 2 people are alive.

750
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:53.339
Three, three.

751
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.279
I see your three, I raise it.

752
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.440
What on here?

753
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:00.599
Aren't there some people alive?

754
00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:02.279
Some people, some people last.

755
00:30:02.339 --> 00:30:04.440
Yeah, not the ones you'd choose.

756
00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:06.299
No, we'll talk about that later.

757
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:07.440
Yeah.

758
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:16.740
Well, that's super racist, David.

759
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.339
Just say his name.

760
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.299
For God's sake.

761
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:19.680
No, it's only boys.

762
00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:20.759
And Vince did this.

763
00:30:20.819 --> 00:30:21.900
Oh, okay.

764
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:22.200
Yeah.

765
00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:22.859
Yeah.

766
00:30:23.099 --> 00:30:27.960
It, I think that big set, the big ballroom set or whatever it is

767
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.799
you know, the big room that the fire kind of rolls through is

768
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:32.460
amazingly good.

769
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:33.720
It looks great.

770
00:30:33.779 --> 00:30:37.980
And it's that thing where, you know, if you get the BBC design

771
00:30:37.980 --> 00:30:41.039
department to do, you know, a period thing.

772
00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:43.859
You know, that's always kind of a good.

773
00:30:43.980 --> 00:30:44.880
But I like all the sets.

774
00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:46.200
I like all the sets in this.

775
00:30:46.259 --> 00:30:47.279
That is a location.

776
00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:50.039
The bridge or this particular stairwell set.

777
00:30:50.099 --> 00:30:51.240
Yeah.

778
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.900
And that the strut that they walk across, that big room.

779
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:56.579
Like they're very good.

780
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:01.200
He's very good at creating a kind of sense of place of making them

781
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.420
look like they're journeying from place to place.

782
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.119
It's not just space corridors.

783
00:31:06.299 --> 00:31:10.140
You know, everywhere is sort of distinctive looking.

784
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.740
Oh, just don't listen to this bit because it'll make you sad

785
00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:14.099
later.

786
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.859
It's sad, but it's also very funny at the same time.

787
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.539
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

788
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.660
And it's a hugely Russell detail.

789
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:25.980
But isn't it?

790
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:26.759
Yeah.

791
00:31:26.819 --> 00:31:33.599
It gives these characters character and and warmth and you just

792
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:34.380
care for them so much.

793
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:35.279
These 2 are great.

794
00:31:35.819 --> 00:31:37.200
Yeah.

795
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.799
So the ballroom scene is the...

796
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.740
It's a real ballroom that they've dressed. inner dress.

797
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.859
It's the exchange building in Swansea.

798
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:47.339
Right.

799
00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:50.460
And also the coal exchange in Cardiff Bay.

800
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:51.119
Right, right.

801
00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:52.559
So that was on location.

802
00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:53.940
They were both locations.

803
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:54.240
Yeah.

804
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:59.579
Uh, deck 31 is the nylon factory?

805
00:31:59.640 --> 00:31:59.940
Yeah.

806
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.500
And...

807
00:32:01.500 --> 00:32:05.400
The street is obviously Cardiff City Centre.

808
00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:06.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

809
00:32:06.180 --> 00:32:07.980
But they actually closed it off once.

810
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:08.579
Right.

811
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.660
Like they, they closed down the, like, that is, that is a street

812
00:32:12.660 --> 00:32:15.720
like, right in the centre of Garden.

813
00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:17.160
Doctor Who's Huge.

814
00:32:17.220 --> 00:32:19.980
It's the hugest thing possible right at this particular point.

815
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.700
And, you know, it's a Welsh export.

816
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:28.680
They usually wouldn't bother. like they would usually have people

817
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.380
just wandering around because it was Kylie and they wanted to keep

818
00:32:31.380 --> 00:32:31.740
it secret.

819
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:33.299
Yeah, okay.

820
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.019
And then they ride into it that everyone's vanished because...

821
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.039
Oh, okay.

822
00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:40.619
So they do that so that...

823
00:32:40.619 --> 00:32:41.759
They can keep Cardi's secret.

824
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:42.359
Right.

825
00:32:42.420 --> 00:32:44.819
And then they have the dialogue explaining.

826
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:51.599
Well, I think around April of that year, Russell vehemently denied

827
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:57.420
that she would be in it. within a like 2 days, Kylie and Will

828
00:32:57.420 --> 00:32:59.640
Baker had said, oh, yes, no, we're in any Christmas.

829
00:33:01.140 --> 00:33:03.539
Imagine if they couldn't have got her.

830
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.519
They have got Sanita.

831
00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:06.180
Danny?

832
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.319
Danny.

833
00:33:07.380 --> 00:33:10.740
Well, did her best.

834
00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:14.279
She approached them.

835
00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:16.200
Oh, to say she wanted to be in something?

836
00:33:16.259 --> 00:33:21.539
Yeah, Will Will Baker approached them for her and said, you know

837
00:33:21.539 --> 00:33:23.400
Kylie's keen to be in Doctor Who.

838
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.579
But not Danny kind of quickly said.

839
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:31.559
I think it was at the season, sorry, the series 3 launch party.

840
00:33:31.619 --> 00:33:32.519
Oh, okay.

841
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.180
He was there and...

842
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.619
They had been working.

843
00:33:37.859 --> 00:33:40.259
They had been working on her show.

844
00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:44.819
And so he'd been in contact with them because, you know, they need

845
00:33:44.819 --> 00:33:49.200
to get the rights to the TARDIS sound effect and side men voices

846
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:53.039
and get the cyber costume design done as well for that stage

847
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:53.400
show.

848
00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:57.960
So they'd been working with them anyway and I guess, you know

849
00:33:57.960 --> 00:33:58.740
because of that.

850
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.279
Russell Tovey played a cyber helmet, didn't he, at one point?

851
00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:03.660
Isn't he hand, Slater?

852
00:34:04.380 --> 00:34:07.859
Known as handles to his mate for some reason.

853
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:08.880
I can't think why.

854
00:34:08.940 --> 00:34:10.380
Can't think why.

855
00:34:10.619 --> 00:34:12.599
Don't think about it.

856
00:34:12.659 --> 00:34:16.199
I've just finished watching years and years. aged very well.

857
00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:17.820
Yeah, he has, hasn't he?

858
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.000
He does look older, but I think he looks he looks, you know, better

859
00:34:21.780 --> 00:34:22.019
himself.

860
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.239
He's embalmed. got so much gay shit on his face.

861
00:34:24.300 --> 00:34:26.159
But that's not for here.

862
00:34:26.219 --> 00:34:28.739
He's also, you know, done a lot of work.

863
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:29.880
Yeah.

864
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.639
At the gym, at the gym.

865
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:33.239
Oh okay.

866
00:34:33.300 --> 00:34:36.539
Yeah, well, I mean, they were constantly getting it. not a fan, am

867
00:34:36.539 --> 00:34:36.719
I?

868
00:34:37.019 --> 00:34:40.260
Well, they were constantly stripping him in being human.

869
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.179
Like, he, he's...

870
00:34:42.179 --> 00:34:45.239
Constantly... covered in dirt and blood.

871
00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:45.719
Yeah, yeah.

872
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.039
That's just rubbing each someone.

873
00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:48.719
We've seen Russell's sketchbook.

874
00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:49.800
I mean Russell, really?

875
00:34:49.860 --> 00:34:51.119
Really?

876
00:34:51.179 --> 00:34:53.340
Drawing your cast members in their under flimsies.

877
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:54.000
Is that appropriate?

878
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:55.980
Remember that?

879
00:34:56.039 --> 00:35:00.780
He did, you know, draw Harriet Jones escaping through a trap door

880
00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:02.820
after being shot at by Daleks.

881
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:03.780
And that's cannon.

882
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:05.519
She's not dead.

883
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.739
Yeah, with Russell Drewitt with a knickers sticking out like pooh

884
00:35:10.739 --> 00:35:11.760
bear in the rabbit hole.

885
00:35:12.539 --> 00:35:14.820
These are great, aren't they?

886
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.199
Super simple.

887
00:35:16.260 --> 00:35:17.760
Oh no, they're gorgeous.

888
00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:20.039
And I really do like it when they do them a bit cheap, but

889
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:20.519
graphic.

890
00:35:20.579 --> 00:35:26.340
So the guy doing the voice for them turns up later in under the

891
00:35:26.340 --> 00:35:27.119
lake before the flood.

892
00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:29.579
He's not the... he's Morven?

893
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.019
No, what?

894
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.119
Morbin. like Morgan?

895
00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:34.440
should I pronounce, sorry?

896
00:35:34.500 --> 00:35:35.219
The captain.

897
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.000
Oh, okay.

898
00:35:36.059 --> 00:35:37.079
I think he's the captain.

899
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.039
I can't remember.

900
00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:38.940
He dies terribly.

901
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.039
Okay, I think he's the 1st guy to die, isn't he?

902
00:35:41.099 --> 00:35:42.119
Oh, okay.

903
00:35:42.179 --> 00:35:43.500
No, I can't remember that at all.

904
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:44.820
I'm sure it's fascinating.

905
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.400
I'm sure we all really like it when it comes time to cover it.

906
00:35:48.539 --> 00:35:50.760
Well, the theme tune was good.

907
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.800
That's true.

908
00:35:53.340 --> 00:35:55.019
Oh, wow.

909
00:35:55.139 --> 00:35:56.219
Nope, he's not helping.

910
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.440
Wow.

911
00:35:58.500 --> 00:35:59.699
I'm a bastard.

912
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:00.239
Yeah.

913
00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:00.900
Yeah.

914
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.619
So I'm taking back all of the things that I said about Russell not

915
00:36:07.619 --> 00:36:09.000
being fat phobic this week.

916
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:11.880
Dear, dear.

917
00:36:12.780 --> 00:36:14.579
Oh, there you go.

918
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.400
And the doctor asked for consent before going with going at more

919
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:18.599
Morven's bum.

920
00:36:18.659 --> 00:36:19.500
So that's a thing.

921
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.440
More than you get in many relationships.

922
00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:31.679
I mean, like, this really sells how much of a bust.

923
00:36:31.739 --> 00:36:32.579
Oh, ow.

924
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.019
How much a bastard Rixton is, you know, leaving the old man to

925
00:36:37.019 --> 00:36:40.559
prop up.

926
00:36:40.619 --> 00:36:44.460
See, there's another there's another robots of death reference.

927
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:45.360
With a hand.

928
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:45.780
Yeah, yeah.

929
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:46.980
The hand coming through the thing.

930
00:36:52.139 --> 00:36:54.360
Morphin look food.

931
00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:57.840
I just wish Capricorn had been played by Danny Minogue.

932
00:36:58.619 --> 00:37:01.260
They actually wanted Dennis Hopper.

933
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.079
Oh, oh, yeah, no, I've never kicked Dennis.

934
00:37:04.139 --> 00:37:07.320
I spent the entire 1st time I was watching this thinking that I

935
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.599
knew the guy who played Max Capricorn.

936
00:37:09.659 --> 00:37:12.539
He just looked incredibly familiar. from EastEnders?

937
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:16.739
Yeah, I think he's very good.

938
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.340
It's a, you know, the silliest possible villain, I think.

939
00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:24.119
Well, he's a rat with a gold tooth, isn't he, as we've said

940
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:24.840
previously?

941
00:37:24.900 --> 00:37:27.179
Oh, he's Roland Rat.

942
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:31.260
Maybe that's it But I've realised that Tovi, especially when

943
00:37:31.260 --> 00:37:35.280
underlip like that looks nothing so much as a waxed gerbil.

944
00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:38.400
Well, he is very sweaty in that scene. isn't it?

945
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:38.880
isn't it?

946
00:37:38.940 --> 00:37:42.119
The rodent show. forward.

947
00:37:42.179 --> 00:37:44.880
Who was the leader of the robots in robots for death?

948
00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:47.280
Miles Fothergill.

949
00:37:47.340 --> 00:37:48.420
Oh, no, Taryn Capell.

950
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.460
Why couldn't it have been Taron Cabell?

951
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:51.900
Gorgeous.

952
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.659
That would have been a bit more compelling.

953
00:37:54.780 --> 00:37:56.519
No, no, don't even try.

954
00:37:56.579 --> 00:37:58.019
Can it be old?

955
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.659
She's she doesn't. why people say she can't act.

956
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.179
I mean, it does feel like the delinquents again with the same

957
00:38:03.179 --> 00:38:07.920
frocks, but she's got a really nice way of moving and she

958
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:09.780
remembers it's the eyes first.

959
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.599
She has the Billy Hartnell school of acting appreciation.

960
00:38:12.659 --> 00:38:14.519
He says, just work with your eyes and everything.

961
00:38:14.699 --> 00:38:15.599
No, I agree with you.

962
00:38:15.659 --> 00:38:16.739
She does all the right moves.

963
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.480
She does do a lot of work on stage.

964
00:38:18.539 --> 00:38:19.380
Yeah.

965
00:38:19.380 --> 00:38:21.239
So maybe she can act on...

966
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.360
Pushing 2 chart trollies and so it's all in the face.

967
00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:25.139
Yeah, okay.

968
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.639
Tom White?

969
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:27.900
Because I was the same.

970
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.460
Why didn't we not appreciate her?

971
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.940
Is it just that as fans we had this overweening expectation of

972
00:38:32.940 --> 00:38:33.539
perfection?

973
00:38:33.659 --> 00:38:37.440
You know, this this humpy, you know, I don't know.

974
00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:39.840
Even when I watch Kylie in interviews, I'm always a little bit

975
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.460
underwhelmed and I don't know why that is.

976
00:38:41.579 --> 00:38:46.500
On stage, she's just got this energy and this and video clips.

977
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:48.059
It's just this aura.

978
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.480
Underneath, she's just probably still a nice normal sort of girl.

979
00:38:51.539 --> 00:38:53.699
Maybe that's maybe that's why she's so normal.

980
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.800
It's sort of like we expect it to be something a little bit more.

981
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:56.519
What's this?

982
00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:57.360
Oh, that's...

983
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.519
Don't spoil it, boys.

984
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:06.119
No, well, see, these 3 are the TARDest team for this episode

985
00:39:06.179 --> 00:39:06.719
really.

986
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.139
And despite the fact that he is a miserable old bastard.

987
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.239
He's actually kind of endearing.

988
00:39:12.300 --> 00:39:17.400
Oh, there is nothing like anger to enforce charm.

989
00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:20.760
We tend to, I wonder if that's not the placating nature of so many

990
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.579
of us, mammals is, and when we're faced with someone of that

991
00:39:23.579 --> 00:39:28.079
persona, we really do work a lot in the opposite direction.

992
00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:29.340
And it's the same.

993
00:39:29.340 --> 00:39:32.159
It's a parent, you know, a child with a difficult parent and it's

994
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:34.199
probably the same in audience member with someone who gives that

995
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:34.500
vibe.

996
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.739
Look, it's obvious that both Kylie and David are really acting

997
00:39:37.739 --> 00:39:41.460
their socks off here just to stomach being in a scene with him.

998
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.880
Was he really difficult on set as well?

999
00:39:44.940 --> 00:39:45.539
I don't know.

1000
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:46.079
I have no idea.

1001
00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:46.619
We know.

1002
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.059
No, all we really know is that?

1003
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:48.900
I think he's crazy.

1004
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.800
DWA interviews where he's less than charming.

1005
00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:54.659
The way he treated Benjamin Cook.

1006
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.820
But they are hilarious.

1007
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.480
Maybe he just has no time for the press, you know, he might be

1008
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:00.960
different on set.

1009
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:03.539
I hope not.

1010
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.960
That would ruin everything for you.

1011
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:07.320
Yeah, no.

1012
00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:12.119
I hope he's just as horrendous modern as we would hope.

1013
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.480
He's like, oh, here we go.

1014
00:40:15.539 --> 00:40:17.820
Yeah, this this is fantastic, isn't it?

1015
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.900
The strut, I think it's called in the script.

1016
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.300
Oh, you see, you don't need George Lucas, do you?

1017
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.219
Well, you kind of have George Lucas.

1018
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:27.840
Oh, I would die.

1019
00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:29.400
I would be gone.

1020
00:40:29.460 --> 00:40:30.119
No, that's it.

1021
00:40:30.179 --> 00:40:31.739
I could not get across that, you know?

1022
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:34.860
Everyone's just standing there going, oh, for goodness sake, it's

1023
00:40:34.860 --> 00:40:36.780
just another Ian McKellen review, isn't it?

1024
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.039
flashing his bits and bobs and singing away.

1025
00:40:41.099 --> 00:40:44.519
Oh, no, this is just this is just like, oh, my God.

1026
00:40:44.579 --> 00:40:47.880
It's just like, oh, Sean, it's nice.

1027
00:40:47.940 --> 00:40:49.559
Oh, he bloody did though, didn't he?

1028
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.659
That's so...

1029
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:54.599
Russell's not very lovely to the people that he casts himself

1030
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:55.019
doesn't he?

1031
00:40:55.139 --> 00:40:57.239
He's not loving to his apotheosi.

1032
00:40:57.300 --> 00:40:58.199
Shut up.

1033
00:40:58.260 --> 00:40:59.400
No, that's the real Clive Swift.

1034
00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:02.219
But it brings back the danger that, you know, Yeah, yeah.

1035
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:02.880
We had got comfortable.

1036
00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:06.599
We'd had to stop, you know, we'd had a chance to stop and chat.

1037
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.659
And momentarily escape from the angels of death.

1038
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:10.500
Yeah, yeah.

1039
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:15.360
Oh, no, I think that's just, it's so heartbreaking.

1040
00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:18.480
Like, it's that thing. a horrid demand won't die.

1041
00:41:18.539 --> 00:41:19.019
Yeah.

1042
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:19.679
Yeah, yeah.

1043
00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:21.420
Where's he going to go, love?

1044
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:22.019
I mean, come on.

1045
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.119
Help me?

1046
00:41:24.179 --> 00:41:25.380
Oh, it's like Utah.

1047
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:26.159
Help me.

1048
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.639
Are you equating me again?

1049
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:30.659
Never.

1050
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:31.679
Only in this moment.

1051
00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:34.019
Well, we're both up in middle class.

1052
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:34.800
Yes, Christ.

1053
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.820
I think that's going to be my sake for this episode.

1054
00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:42.960
That should inconveniently circumstance.

1055
00:41:43.019 --> 00:41:44.099
I'm sorry?

1056
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.519
Because my parents, I had no say what my parents did to me

1057
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:47.820
either.

1058
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.000
Inconveniently circumscribe. changed my mind.

1059
00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:52.019
Estrod's wonderful.

1060
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.039
She is.

1061
00:41:53.099 --> 00:41:54.840
She's got a...

1062
00:41:54.900 --> 00:41:56.880
And she would have made a lovely companion.

1063
00:41:56.940 --> 00:41:59.699
I just watched a Danny Minogue video clip.

1064
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.920
She looks so young.

1065
00:42:01.980 --> 00:42:03.179
I know it's awful.

1066
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.679
This is horrible too, isn't it?

1067
00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:08.519
Like that...

1068
00:42:09.059 --> 00:42:11.159
Oh, oh, God.

1069
00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:13.079
Oh, no.

1070
00:42:13.139 --> 00:42:17.280
I've been watching succession, the barely veiled, you know, drama

1071
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.559
of the Murdochs, and there's definitely he's in it.

1072
00:42:19.619 --> 00:42:21.059
We're all waiting for him to fall off it.

1073
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.119
Well, he's like a large adult son, isn't he now?

1074
00:42:24.179 --> 00:42:24.840
Yeah, exactly.

1075
00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:26.039
Do you want to talk to my father?

1076
00:42:26.099 --> 00:42:27.059
Well, I'm going to talk to my father.

1077
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.980
I do love how the Rupert Murdoch character leaves scenes in that.

1078
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.739
I can't say it on this podcast because we don't have the explicit

1079
00:42:34.739 --> 00:42:37.380
text, but it begins with an F and ends with off.

1080
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.719
Yes, you have.

1081
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.460
And he wheeze on carpets and things like that.

1082
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:42.059
This is fine.

1083
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:43.260
Practically every scene.

1084
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:44.760
Yeah, he has a disagreement.

1085
00:42:44.820 --> 00:42:46.739
Well, you could...

1086
00:42:46.980 --> 00:42:49.199
Oh, the doctor's company.

1087
00:42:49.260 --> 00:42:50.460
The whirring key thing.

1088
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:51.659
Still wearing key.

1089
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.880
She'll get us all killed.

1090
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.019
Yeah, he's really awful.

1091
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.059
Oh, this is the thing, isn't it?

1092
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.360
I think we're seeing Darwinian tropes in action here, huh?

1093
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:00.780
are we?

1094
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.780
Do you know that the 10th time doctor is showing more warmth to

1095
00:43:03.780 --> 00:43:09.539
Fern, Astrid, and Mr. Copper than to Deer Math from last season?

1096
00:43:09.659 --> 00:43:13.800
I'm really, it's funny you say that because I was not getting, this

1097
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.739
feels like a wholly different show and a reboot.

1098
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.380
I'm not getting anything of the last season in Tennant.

1099
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.900
Well Russell reboots the show every season.

1100
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:23.159
Yeah.

1101
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.739
Oh my God. don't know how they're still on that game trick.

1102
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.500
But tenants, persona, and performance is a different character.

1103
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.079
Well, it's a big Christmas special, isn't it?

1104
00:43:31.139 --> 00:43:35.280
And it is kind of out of continuity in the sense that, you know, it

1105
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.920
doesn't have any effect on anything that comes after it and

1106
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:39.960
nothing before it matters either.

1107
00:43:40.019 --> 00:43:42.900
Which is different from the last 2 Christmas specials.

1108
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.599
This is like a big self-contained movie.

1109
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.019
It's the longest episode so far, isn't it?

1110
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:49.559
Yeah.

1111
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:55.440
And he's also in the tux and that as a pastry is normal outfit too

1112
00:43:55.500 --> 00:43:57.239
which makes it a bit different, I think.

1113
00:43:57.300 --> 00:44:00.059
I always like him when he does Bond Light.

1114
00:44:00.179 --> 00:44:02.519
I love that tax.

1115
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.380
And you know, you know term was thinking.

1116
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.320
You know, Janet was thinking, oh, maybe I could get the part.

1117
00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:08.639
You know, I mean, you're not maybe.

1118
00:44:08.699 --> 00:44:10.199
Yeah, that could.

1119
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:11.880
That's a beautiful shot.

1120
00:44:11.940 --> 00:44:14.519
Because suddenly it looks like a cathedral, doesn't it?

1121
00:44:14.579 --> 00:44:16.619
The pipes look like organ pipes and all of that.

1122
00:44:16.739 --> 00:44:18.960
And everything's golden.

1123
00:44:19.019 --> 00:44:20.460
Danny sent them.

1124
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:21.599
She wants her career back.

1125
00:44:22.260 --> 00:44:25.199
Honey, you lost that in young talent time.

1126
00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:26.340
Hooray.

1127
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:27.659
This is great.

1128
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.639
Oh, go for it, Kylie.

1129
00:44:29.699 --> 00:44:30.119
Nice one.

1130
00:44:30.539 --> 00:44:33.780
Well, she's Australian, surely she can play cricket.

1131
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.239
Yeah, and we've all played Frisbees on the beach.

1132
00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:37.079
She knows what she's doing.

1133
00:44:37.139 --> 00:44:39.059
There are a bloody lot of them, aren't there?

1134
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.920
Oh, he's not going to come to good.

1135
00:44:40.980 --> 00:44:42.119
You can just feel it, can't you?

1136
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:43.079
No, he's gonna be great.

1137
00:44:43.139 --> 00:44:44.880
He'll end up as president of the United States.

1138
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.139
Yeah. end up as Chris North.

1139
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.980
Oh, no, he's gonna off himself now, is he?

1140
00:44:56.340 --> 00:44:57.780
Wow.

1141
00:44:57.840 --> 00:44:59.219
Yes, he will.

1142
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:00.059
Shazam.

1143
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.119
Well, he's not legally permitted to marry Kylie at this point in

1144
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:03.900
human history.

1145
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:08.880
So, um, He's just going to create an impulse.

1146
00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:09.780
No, not just it.

1147
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:11.880
No, well they have that, which I thought was kind of good.

1148
00:45:11.940 --> 00:45:15.360
She, you know, they flirt slightly and he says that he can't get

1149
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.900
married or she says I know that cyborgs can't get married right

1150
00:45:18.900 --> 00:45:19.079
now.

1151
00:45:19.139 --> 00:45:20.219
Not right now.

1152
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:20.639
Yeah.

1153
00:45:20.699 --> 00:45:22.739
Like, no, they've changed the law.

1154
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:23.699
You can get married everything.

1155
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.900
Oh, have they?

1156
00:45:24.900 --> 00:45:25.860
They have changed the law.

1157
00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:26.340
Okay.

1158
00:45:26.940 --> 00:45:29.699
When does the law change in Britain, do you know?

1159
00:45:30.300 --> 00:45:34.380
You mean the marriage law or the civil partnership?

1160
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.440
So partnerships 2007, I think.

1161
00:45:37.500 --> 00:45:38.219
Okay.

1162
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:38.699
Yeah.

1163
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.320
It was about 10 years into Blair.

1164
00:45:43.380 --> 00:45:43.800
Right.

1165
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.840
Oh, dear.

1166
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.820
Well, he's he's been in a whole bunch of Doctor Who's, hasn't he?

1167
00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:55.800
The hands don't lie, Kylie.

1168
00:45:57.059 --> 00:45:59.219
Old man hands.

1169
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.000
When did that happen?

1170
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.519
Yeah, Jimmy V was...

1171
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:04.019
Actually, they look quite young, actually.

1172
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.840
He was the pig in Aliens of London.

1173
00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:09.420
He was the monster Melhoun.

1174
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:09.719
Yeah.

1175
00:46:09.780 --> 00:46:10.380
Oh.

1176
00:46:10.380 --> 00:46:15.239
He was the Scofox Blitzer in The Caretaker.

1177
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:17.099
Terrible, terrible Gareth Roberts episode.

1178
00:46:17.219 --> 00:46:18.900
And he also played the grass.

1179
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:19.619
Yes.

1180
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:20.579
Grosk.

1181
00:46:20.579 --> 00:46:21.719
The grosk and the grosk?

1182
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.500
In Attack of the Grass and the Sarah Jane Adventures.

1183
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.139
He's also played a Slithine, I believe.

1184
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.840
Look, he's got a cafe that is thing.

1185
00:46:31.260 --> 00:46:33.179
Ah yeah, okay.

1186
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.239
Oh wow.

1187
00:46:36.300 --> 00:46:40.380
He's got both things at once from both hands and both in both

1188
00:46:40.380 --> 00:46:40.860
news.

1189
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:41.340
Oh.

1190
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.519
I think Russell's actually having a go at Australians.

1191
00:46:44.579 --> 00:46:47.099
We're the only people that play Frisbees on the beach, aren't we?

1192
00:46:47.460 --> 00:46:49.920
Oh, security protocol.

1193
00:46:49.980 --> 00:46:52.199
He's trying all these different numbers, isn't he?

1194
00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:55.860
One.

1195
00:46:55.860 --> 00:46:57.840
42.

1196
00:46:58.019 --> 00:47:01.139
I do remember at the same time. yet another Douglas Adams

1197
00:47:01.139 --> 00:47:01.559
reference.

1198
00:47:01.619 --> 00:47:02.400
Yeah, exactly.

1199
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.380
Oh, clever.

1200
00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:13.079
We're so engrossed with this.

1201
00:47:13.139 --> 00:47:13.619
I know.

1202
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.559
I know, and I had to run off because I locked my husband out of

1203
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:16.800
the house.

1204
00:47:17.940 --> 00:47:20.280
It's a standard thing we do.

1205
00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:20.940
Yes.

1206
00:47:20.940 --> 00:47:22.800
It's a Sunday.

1207
00:47:23.699 --> 00:47:25.500
It is the plan.

1208
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:33.300
I kind of wish Max Capricorn had been Taran Capel.

1209
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:35.340
Well, because no one cares.

1210
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:36.300
Do you know what I mean?

1211
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.159
Exactly, it's just been his name.

1212
00:47:38.219 --> 00:47:41.519
And I guess... and fanny nun nungs. fanny nung nungs.

1213
00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:45.059
No, but again, I guess...

1214
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.559
Oh no, no, don't do that, darling.

1215
00:47:46.619 --> 00:47:47.340
You don't need to do that.

1216
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.739
I do have a problem with his next shot because she jumps 1st and

1217
00:47:49.739 --> 00:47:52.860
she's away and then it's there and then...

1218
00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:54.059
Oh, and then she...

1219
00:47:54.059 --> 00:47:55.079
Oh, no.

1220
00:47:55.139 --> 00:47:57.239
That's not how things fall.

1221
00:47:57.300 --> 00:47:57.780
I know.

1222
00:47:57.780 --> 00:48:00.360
But gravity's doing weird thing.

1223
00:48:00.420 --> 00:48:02.340
Okay, yes, no, it is a gravity thing.

1224
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:03.179
Yeah.

1225
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:08.280
So I guess this foreshadows what Kylie's going to do a bit later, I

1226
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:08.519
guess.

1227
00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:10.739
With a forklift truck.

1228
00:48:11.219 --> 00:48:15.780
And I was wondering whether Max Capricorn, because he is the rich

1229
00:48:15.780 --> 00:48:21.599
guy who owns the whole kind of thing. that we can have one rich

1230
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:26.039
guy survive provided we kill off another rich guy, you know, just

1231
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.219
because this is a Russell story and...

1232
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.079
Well, also, there's not just one rich guy.

1233
00:48:31.139 --> 00:48:34.440
It's a whole ship of rich guys, but they're like Sith.

1234
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.199
It's only one.

1235
00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:38.519
No, you have a couple.

1236
00:48:38.579 --> 00:48:40.320
There can only be a master in it.

1237
00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:40.860
That's right.

1238
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:41.460
And a slave.

1239
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.260
It does go like that.

1240
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.599
Hi, Russell, Toby.

1241
00:48:46.739 --> 00:48:50.400
I also like that everything's a fleshy blue light, if you need to

1242
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:50.820
get out of something.

1243
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.820
Are there any other references?

1244
00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:57.179
Because I'm really just getting the humour is Terry Jones and

1245
00:48:57.179 --> 00:48:58.079
Douglas Adams.

1246
00:48:58.139 --> 00:48:59.579
Naughty Russell.

1247
00:49:00.300 --> 00:49:01.920
Back to my thing.

1248
00:49:01.980 --> 00:49:06.780
Well, I mean, he's stealing from a whole heap of things. sort of

1249
00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:10.980
knock about comedy humour tends to be very, very Monty Python, very

1250
00:49:10.980 --> 00:49:12.539
Douglas Adams-y kind of thing.

1251
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:17.280
You know, it's always funny, sort of overly long names and weirdly

1252
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:18.960
named characters with funny heads.

1253
00:49:19.019 --> 00:49:21.840
Well, also that thing that Mr. Copper does about getting the

1254
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.599
history of Earth wrong is from the end of the world.

1255
00:49:24.659 --> 00:49:31.199
So Kylie is now, or Astrid is now, auditioning, saying, oh, well

1256
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:32.219
look, can I come with you?

1257
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.360
And I think when you ask, that's not a very, doesn't end very

1258
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:36.599
well.

1259
00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:38.219
Yes.

1260
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.199
Like Linda with a Y.

1261
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.159
Well, in fact, the other thing too is that we know at home that

1262
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.880
they're only really ever going to get Kylie, like Catherine Tate

1263
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:50.639
she's only ever going to do a Christmas special, so there's no

1264
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.139
chance she'll ever actually.

1265
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.440
So I think at this point we know that something terrible will

1266
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:55.980
happen to her.

1267
00:49:56.219 --> 00:49:57.599
Yeah.

1268
00:49:57.659 --> 00:50:01.559
Or maybe she meets Russell Tovey and sees how handsome he is and

1269
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.860
they go off together and, you know, then she realises he's gay.

1270
00:50:04.980 --> 00:50:07.559
Yeah, she's a big disappointment.

1271
00:50:08.099 --> 00:50:11.820
And what they he'd love her because she's Kylie.

1272
00:50:11.940 --> 00:50:13.260
Yeah, well, that's it.

1273
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:15.780
All gay men love Kylie.

1274
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.119
That is the law.

1275
00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:19.380
Apart from my husband.

1276
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:20.219
Really?

1277
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.320
He prefers Danny.

1278
00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:24.599
Hey, should be on this podcast.

1279
00:50:24.659 --> 00:50:26.820
This is so glorious.

1280
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:27.900
This is cute.

1281
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:28.860
It's really cute.

1282
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.119
And it's another well-timed explosion in the background.

1283
00:50:33.179 --> 00:50:37.320
Getting to kiss all of your companions will want to be

1284
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:37.800
companions.

1285
00:50:37.860 --> 00:50:38.519
Oh, yeah.

1286
00:50:38.579 --> 00:50:39.599
It's rule.

1287
00:50:39.659 --> 00:50:40.559
It's a rule.

1288
00:50:40.619 --> 00:50:44.760
So, you know, if you did have Kylie as a companion, wouldn't you?

1289
00:50:44.820 --> 00:50:48.480
Well, I think that's a that's kind of a sweet kiss of

1290
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:49.320
encouragement, though.

1291
00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:52.920
I don't think that's quite the DNA sample thing that we got with

1292
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:53.460
mastery.

1293
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:54.179
Kiss of death.

1294
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:55.079
The kiss of death.

1295
00:50:56.219 --> 00:50:58.019
I do like that.

1296
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.059
I just took a DNA sample turns out 100% that bitch.

1297
00:51:07.019 --> 00:51:08.400
Sorry.

1298
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.099
Hooray.

1299
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:12.480
Okay, we're exploding them.

1300
00:51:12.539 --> 00:51:13.679
Oh, and he's kind of joining in.

1301
00:51:13.739 --> 00:51:16.559
Horrible Brixton is part of the team.

1302
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.599
Oh.

1303
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.320
Yeah, that's really not going to work.

1304
00:51:28.500 --> 00:51:30.480
It's a ridiculous.

1305
00:51:30.539 --> 00:51:32.219
The whole 3 questions thing.

1306
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:33.539
It is.

1307
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:38.280
You've been programmed to kill us, but there's an easy loophole in

1308
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:38.880
your programming.

1309
00:51:38.940 --> 00:51:40.500
But again, it's Christmas.

1310
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:41.219
Do you know what I mean?

1311
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:42.420
Like, we can just paper over it.

1312
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:43.980
Who cares, I think, at this point.

1313
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:51.239
Does he accidentally ask, Oh no, he does get to ask the right

1314
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:52.260
question, right, doesn't he?

1315
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:57.119
He's not like, do you remember Homer asking a, the, you know, a

1316
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.380
Pooh takes him to the Quickie Mart guy?

1317
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:02.519
entirely differently.

1318
00:52:02.579 --> 00:52:03.659
No, it doesn't.

1319
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:06.599
I really did.

1320
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.239
And then I had pictures of Winnie the Pooh without your pants on

1321
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:11.219
stuck in the rabbit hole again and we're back to this.

1322
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.960
Well, that was...

1323
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:13.860
With more of an early on.

1324
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.300
Well, I just see Russell Toby.

1325
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.619
If they ever do an x-rated stage version of AA Milm, I can really

1326
00:52:19.619 --> 00:52:23.099
see Toby with a massive jar of honey, a red t-shirt, nothing

1327
00:52:23.099 --> 00:52:23.400
else.

1328
00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:24.059
Yeah.

1329
00:52:24.059 --> 00:52:25.619
Can you get a duper?

1330
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:26.940
think I've seen that video.

1331
00:52:27.300 --> 00:52:30.420
David looks really young in those close-ups.

1332
00:52:30.539 --> 00:52:33.000
He looks like he's gurning.

1333
00:52:33.059 --> 00:52:35.880
I just love all the little nods to Eccleston without any of the

1334
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:36.960
actual gravitast.

1335
00:52:37.019 --> 00:52:38.099
Oh, she does a pulse.

1336
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:41.699
But you have to think, you know, that just felt like a big can of

1337
00:52:41.699 --> 00:52:42.719
impulse.

1338
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.179
That whole thing of, you know, you run after a woman in Martin

1339
00:52:45.179 --> 00:52:46.980
Place and give her flowers, but the opposite.

1340
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.139
Do you know that that very 1st video clip has impulse in it?

1341
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:52.739
That's right.

1342
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.360
She had some sores, didn't she?

1343
00:52:54.420 --> 00:52:57.420
Thank you for picking up on my such subtle reverence there, Todd

1344
00:52:57.420 --> 00:53:00.119
which must have been unconscious because I've totally forgotten

1345
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:00.659
till you told me.

1346
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:01.440
I remember.

1347
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:02.639
It is Blake City.

1348
00:53:02.699 --> 00:53:03.239
It is, isn't it?

1349
00:53:03.300 --> 00:53:03.900
It really is.

1350
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:05.280
Oh my golly gosh.

1351
00:53:05.340 --> 00:53:06.840
And absolutely, deliberately.

1352
00:53:06.900 --> 00:53:08.460
Abso more.

1353
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.559
Oh, I wish we'd had a Paul Darrow, Laura.

1354
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:14.400
Well, in fact, you have to have Jan Chappell, someone in this

1355
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:14.639
thing.

1356
00:53:14.699 --> 00:53:18.659
You know, some knobbly old creaky old thespe wannabe that, no, not

1357
00:53:18.659 --> 00:53:19.199
hard times.

1358
00:53:19.260 --> 00:53:21.780
They could have just wheeled them in in a chair and just creaked

1359
00:53:21.780 --> 00:53:22.739
them across the set.

1360
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.360
Yeah, they didn't have to do anything.

1361
00:53:24.420 --> 00:53:25.980
I'd have like Su Lin.

1362
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:27.599
She would have been good in this crisis.

1363
00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:29.340
Please send me to Tech 31.

1364
00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:33.539
I need I need to get ready for my close up fall off.

1365
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:34.380
Spoilers.

1366
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.679
Do you know who I'd actually really love to see again, and he's

1367
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:38.159
still working?

1368
00:53:38.219 --> 00:53:39.000
Michael Keating.

1369
00:53:39.059 --> 00:53:39.539
Villa.

1370
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:42.119
I would just love him to guess him one of these things.

1371
00:53:42.179 --> 00:53:44.460
He could play Bernard Cribben's, you know, love slave or

1372
00:53:44.460 --> 00:53:44.699
something.

1373
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.340
I mean, you know, he's always playing the past.

1374
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.380
He's always playing.

1375
00:53:49.380 --> 00:53:50.699
But I never thought I'd hear.

1376
00:53:50.699 --> 00:53:52.440
Bernard...

1377
00:53:52.500 --> 00:53:53.219
Don't even fight.

1378
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:54.840
We just worked...

1379
00:53:54.900 --> 00:53:58.440
Well, except in some of those scenes in Daleks Invasion Earth 2150

1380
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:02.039
AD. I love those old-fashioned talky things.

1381
00:54:02.099 --> 00:54:06.179
It reminds me of horror horror fame rock. what Oh, yes, the

1382
00:54:06.179 --> 00:54:06.780
speaking tubes.

1383
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:07.920
Yeah, yes.

1384
00:54:07.980 --> 00:54:12.539
Oh, there's Kylie having a moment as Hayden Christensen in the big

1385
00:54:12.539 --> 00:54:13.019
sheets as well.

1386
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:18.599
There's a lot of that transition, you know, transcendent gasping

1387
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:19.800
going on in this, isn't there?

1388
00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:21.300
Beautiful lighting again.

1389
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:22.860
Physical effects.

1390
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.860
Do you know, I'd forgotten how good this looked.

1391
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:30.539
I've got to say, I remember it being a bit thin, but I'm getting

1392
00:54:30.539 --> 00:54:31.019
heaps.

1393
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:35.579
I think it's really well plotted as well because you've got, again

1394
00:54:35.579 --> 00:54:41.219
you've got that, um, uh, you know, we establish the, the teleport

1395
00:54:41.219 --> 00:54:47.099
bracelets, um, we have, when, when Morvin falls down the shaft

1396
00:54:47.099 --> 00:54:50.340
Foon says, no, no, no, there has to be some science fiction reason

1397
00:54:50.340 --> 00:54:51.599
why he's still alive.

1398
00:54:51.659 --> 00:54:54.480
All prefiguring what happens to Kylie.

1399
00:54:54.539 --> 00:54:58.380
But that all came about towards the end of the scripting process.

1400
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:02.460
Initially, she wasn't wearing the teleport bracelet.

1401
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:09.000
Brian Minchin suggested to him to Russell that they needed to be

1402
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.860
away for the doctor to try and save her.

1403
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.219
And so the teleport bracelet thing was something he came up with

1404
00:55:14.219 --> 00:55:20.579
so that they could have the whole Kylie being Stardust Kissy Kissy

1405
00:55:20.579 --> 00:55:21.480
thing at the end.

1406
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.559
Originally, she just...

1407
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:27.119
It falls off the edge and it's terribly tragic.

1408
00:55:27.179 --> 00:55:29.519
You don't get that extra 10 minutes.

1409
00:55:29.579 --> 00:55:31.920
Why are they killing Kylie at Christmas?

1410
00:55:32.099 --> 00:55:34.260
such a strange choice.

1411
00:55:36.179 --> 00:55:38.340
He's not just a little too dark.

1412
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.440
To just kill Carly at Christmas.

1413
00:55:40.500 --> 00:55:43.980
He had to bring her back for one last stop before blowing her

1414
00:55:43.980 --> 00:55:44.159
off.

1415
00:55:44.219 --> 00:55:45.480
Yeah, so to speak.

1416
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.820
It's like he's in a war machine.

1417
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:49.440
Yeah, yeah.

1418
00:55:49.500 --> 00:55:50.340
That's a nice thought.

1419
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:54.960
I was just picking up the rise of the sideman stuff again, but I

1420
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.400
mean, these are all Doctor Who.

1421
00:55:56.460 --> 00:55:57.960
Tropes, can I say?

1422
00:55:58.019 --> 00:55:59.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1423
00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:04.260
I mean, this is, you know, like, it's, it's shorthand for Doctor

1424
00:56:04.260 --> 00:56:04.920
Who Villa.

1425
00:56:04.980 --> 00:56:08.460
It's what the people who don't normally watch Doctor Who, but are

1426
00:56:08.460 --> 00:56:11.340
tuning in for Christmas because they're being forced to by their

1427
00:56:11.340 --> 00:56:14.699
children or whatever that they can easily identify. actually a

1428
00:56:14.699 --> 00:56:17.820
massive 1979 microwave, isn't it, Charlie Wheels?

1429
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:19.559
That is glorious.

1430
00:56:19.619 --> 00:56:20.159
That is gorgeous.

1431
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:26.940
So, do you remember those rumours at the time that Astrid was

1432
00:56:26.940 --> 00:56:28.019
actually part of the TARDIS?

1433
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.960
Well, because her name is an anagram of TARDIS?

1434
00:56:31.019 --> 00:56:34.920
Well, her name is, yeah, her name is, is an anagram of TARDIS?

1435
00:56:34.980 --> 00:56:39.000
Peth is the Welsh word for thing.

1436
00:56:39.059 --> 00:56:41.699
She's a name of the artist thing.

1437
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:42.480
Thingy.

1438
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:44.460
I think initially her name was going to be Peth.

1439
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:45.840
That was the first to be Peth.

1440
00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:46.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1441
00:56:46.860 --> 00:56:48.119
Well, thing.

1442
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.719
Sorry, it's like Tegan Javanka.

1443
00:56:51.780 --> 00:56:54.539
Wasn't she going to be a banker?

1444
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.480
Oh.

1445
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:01.739
Where's that steak?

1446
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:04.679
Chug, chug, chug.

1447
00:57:04.739 --> 00:57:05.340
Oh, I get it.

1448
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.099
He's the Christmas little steam train toys.

1449
00:57:08.219 --> 00:57:10.019
Yeah, he does.

1450
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.480
He does look like something that you would sort of, you know

1451
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:16.380
repeatedly sort of push along the ground before letting it go and

1452
00:57:16.380 --> 00:57:20.340
then and all the angels are based on Val Kilmer because that's

1453
00:57:20.340 --> 00:57:24.599
pretty much what he's doing with his career. sitting getting a

1454
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.239
facial back to Russell Tovey.

1455
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:33.900
Oh, I also like the glassy eye and the bad tooth that if you

1456
00:57:33.900 --> 00:57:34.500
really want to know.

1457
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:35.940
God, he does have a gold tooth.

1458
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:36.840
No, no.

1459
00:57:36.900 --> 00:57:41.219
And the, and the light that the, the glint off the tooth is real.

1460
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:45.780
It's not a special effect on the on the promotional videos.

1461
00:57:45.780 --> 00:57:48.179
It actually happens in real life, any comments on it.

1462
00:57:48.659 --> 00:57:50.639
But it is a special effect.

1463
00:57:50.699 --> 00:57:52.079
Oh, it is, especially...

1464
00:57:52.139 --> 00:57:52.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1465
00:57:52.739 --> 00:57:53.519
It's not supposed to be.

1466
00:57:53.579 --> 00:57:54.840
But they get this.

1467
00:57:54.900 --> 00:57:57.539
I mean, you can't do everything, anything except physically.

1468
00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:59.039
It costs so much. oh that's cute.

1469
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:00.420
That's very cute.

1470
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.119
Oh, you are, yes.

1471
00:58:03.179 --> 00:58:03.840
Loser.

1472
00:58:03.900 --> 00:58:07.320
Telling a narcissist, he's a narcissist is the best way to get

1473
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:08.579
them to lose their guard.

1474
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:10.019
It's quite...

1475
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.179
The truth is, yeah, no, the truth will always come.

1476
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.659
They cannibalise the John Lumick's cyberchair?

1477
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:16.320
Yeah, yeah.

1478
00:58:16.380 --> 00:58:17.639
Yeah, well, Richard was saying that earlier.

1479
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.059
Those are the same tubes.

1480
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.360
Very same tube, still damp.

1481
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:30.119
You don't want to destroy yet another Dyson to make a...

1482
00:58:30.179 --> 00:58:31.199
They very expensive.

1483
00:58:31.260 --> 00:58:32.639
Very expensive, darling.

1484
00:58:32.699 --> 00:58:36.119
And yet none of this actually looks expensive, even though it's

1485
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.820
gold and they put a lot of work.

1486
00:58:38.940 --> 00:58:41.639
It really does feel like something school did, didn't it, didn't

1487
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:42.539
they, on the last day of term?

1488
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:44.639
We got to do a Doctor Who Christmas show.

1489
00:58:44.699 --> 00:58:46.679
It is every Doctor Who Christmas show.

1490
00:58:46.739 --> 00:58:47.880
That's also very Christmasy, isn't it?

1491
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:48.599
It is.

1492
00:58:48.659 --> 00:58:49.079
It is.

1493
00:58:49.139 --> 00:58:50.460
And it's Christmas Panto.

1494
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:51.960
And even the villain you want to explain.

1495
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:52.920
Where everyone dies.

1496
00:58:52.980 --> 00:58:54.900
Put sauce on and give him a lick, don't you?

1497
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.579
He's just lovely, chubby, chunky Christmas pudding of a thing

1498
00:58:59.579 --> 00:59:00.119
isn't he?

1499
00:59:00.179 --> 00:59:02.099
In his own, you know, Bain Marie.

1500
00:59:02.099 --> 00:59:03.420
Of his existence.

1501
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:04.260
Doggle, doggle.

1502
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.840
Oh, no, not Kylie.

1503
00:59:06.900 --> 00:59:07.739
Come on, Kylie.

1504
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:08.460
Don't do it.

1505
00:59:08.460 --> 00:59:10.860
So Kylie is Beryl Reed for this.

1506
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.559
Kylie is...

1507
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:15.480
I was going to say Sigourney Weaver, but I had to keep it within

1508
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:16.139
context.

1509
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:18.059
Yes, Sigourney Reed.

1510
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:23.579
She is Beryl Reeder, Sigourney Weaver with the forklift suit

1511
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:23.940
right.

1512
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:25.860
Get away from her, you bitch.

1513
00:59:27.659 --> 00:59:30.179
Come on, Kylie, you can do it.

1514
00:59:30.780 --> 00:59:34.079
That's the name that's the name of her wig.

1515
00:59:34.139 --> 00:59:35.519
The gorny weave.

1516
00:59:36.659 --> 00:59:39.659
Oh, that really almost...

1517
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.000
I like how there's actually dialogue there to show.

1518
00:59:42.659 --> 00:59:44.940
Brake lines have been cut, so she has to die.

1519
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.760
Oh, so she can't break.

1520
00:59:47.820 --> 00:59:48.360
Here we go.

1521
00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:48.780
Yes.

1522
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:50.820
So the signposted.

1523
00:59:51.900 --> 00:59:53.880
Oh, Kylie.

1524
00:59:54.420 --> 00:59:56.159
Charlene.

1525
00:59:56.219 --> 00:59:58.619
Get off the forklift.

1526
00:59:58.679 --> 00:59:59.579
Oh, jeez.

1527
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:00.420
Doctor.

1528
01:00:00.420 --> 01:00:02.340
She's really good.

1529
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:03.420
No, she's wonderful.

1530
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:05.340
But Kylie, wonderful.

1531
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:06.360
I love you.

1532
01:00:06.420 --> 01:00:08.159
Yes, yes.

1533
01:00:08.219 --> 01:00:10.559
But come on, she cooked.

1534
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:11.400
That Jason Donovan.

1535
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:12.840
Yeah, poor old Jason.

1536
01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:16.079
Oh, they should have got Jason Donovan to play Max Capitol.

1537
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.019
There's his career.

1538
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.840
But seriously, come on.

1539
01:00:21.900 --> 01:00:24.300
And she maybe has to just sort of jump out.

1540
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:26.400
Yeah, how did she get out of that thing?

1541
01:00:26.460 --> 01:00:28.980
Do we have to lose everybody?

1542
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:30.059
Yeah.

1543
01:00:30.059 --> 01:00:33.360
Yeah, she could have jumped at the last 2nd and grabbed hold of

1544
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:33.599
something.

1545
01:00:33.659 --> 01:00:37.500
Yeah, other Doctor Who stars. have done things like that.

1546
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:40.679
And now on Star occasions.

1547
01:00:40.739 --> 01:00:45.840
Yeah, but like, you know, you give David Tennant the chance to do

1548
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.019
some acting, you, you know, all of that sort of thing.

1549
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:52.320
Like, I can see why he chooses to do it, rather than, you know

1550
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.840
like, you know, she reaches out ahead and then we have a

1551
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:57.960
fascinating scene of him pulling her...

1552
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.119
Him burning, spitting.

1553
01:01:00.179 --> 01:01:00.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1554
01:01:01.019 --> 01:01:05.460
See, these, these fabulously operatic and absurdly ridiculous

1555
01:01:05.460 --> 01:01:08.400
montage of, you know, everything going to hell.

1556
01:01:09.420 --> 01:01:11.760
Then he's James Bondman.

1557
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:13.440
Yeah, this is awesome isn't it?

1558
01:01:13.500 --> 01:01:17.940
Like a ridiculous lo-mo fades, giant flavour.

1559
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:21.960
You know they're wanting him to go. if Daniel decides to go home.

1560
01:01:22.019 --> 01:01:23.159
We've got David.

1561
01:01:23.219 --> 01:01:24.659
Shirley.

1562
01:01:24.780 --> 01:01:26.219
And you know what?

1563
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:26.760
No.

1564
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:27.300
No.

1565
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:31.139
It's Pierce Brosnan's...

1566
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.000
Yeah, slightly smaller attache case.

1567
01:01:33.059 --> 01:01:36.119
And it's like watching, I'm not watching this and going, what is

1568
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:36.420
going on?

1569
01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:38.760
Oh, really?

1570
01:01:38.820 --> 01:01:42.179
There were a number of complaints at the time because of because

1571
01:01:42.179 --> 01:01:44.820
of the messianic imagery here.

1572
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:48.000
I just thought it was because it just felt like I'm heaven 17 from

1573
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:49.380
1987 groups.

1574
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:49.860
Sorry?

1575
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.260
Well, they don't own angels.

1576
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.420
But it's a heaven 17 video clip.

1577
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:57.960
Temptation.

1578
01:01:59.820 --> 01:02:03.300
But this is also Blake, and it's also Milton.

1579
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:04.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1580
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:09.300
I actually kind of like that the doctor is the fallen one. but

1581
01:02:09.300 --> 01:02:12.840
constantly attempting to ascend because the doctor is the one

1582
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:14.880
that's fallen from grace for the time lords.

1583
01:02:14.940 --> 01:02:17.880
He is the 1st, well, at least he's the most notable outcast, who's

1584
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:19.500
constantly seeking redemption.

1585
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:23.280
You punched a hole in my floor and now my doors are open.

1586
01:02:23.340 --> 01:02:24.599
Russell Tovey.

1587
01:02:24.659 --> 01:02:27.420
I have to say that I do love that trope where you only have to

1588
01:02:27.420 --> 01:02:31.619
kill the leader to disable all of the...

1589
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:32.519
Oh, here we go.

1590
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.039
Only it worked in politics.

1591
01:02:35.099 --> 01:02:36.719
I do love how he gets to say this.

1592
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:44.340
He doesn't he has said before that he would like to meet someone

1593
01:02:44.340 --> 01:02:47.280
called Alonso, like in series 2 or something.

1594
01:02:47.340 --> 01:02:48.300
Right, he did.

1595
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:49.139
He did.

1596
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:54.420
Now, again, because Russell is a terrible person, the... the

1597
01:02:54.420 --> 01:03:02.039
original plan had been for it to destroy... to crash... to crash

1598
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:02.760
just missing it.

1599
01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:04.619
Who vetoed that?

1600
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:05.460
I don't know.

1601
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.619
But he does get to go back and have a do over.

1602
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:08.639
Julie.

1603
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:10.500
Julie said no, I remember.

1604
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.440
Yeah, and then he decided to do it anyway.

1605
01:03:13.500 --> 01:03:14.460
Later next year.

1606
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:16.619
Well, well, yes, in the next season.

1607
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:17.400
Yeah.

1608
01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:21.179
That's our Poseidon adventure moment.

1609
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:24.480
I just thought, you know, killing Kylie and then destroying

1610
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.539
Buckingham Palace probably a pit much for Christmas Day.

1611
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:31.320
Although what they drain the Tiber, the Tiber, for God's sake, they

1612
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:32.699
drain...

1613
01:03:33.179 --> 01:03:35.340
I have a Latin teacher, shut up.

1614
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.099
Carry on up for Thames.

1615
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:39.480
Oh, no, that's the kiber.

1616
01:03:39.539 --> 01:03:41.820
So they drained the Thames last year.

1617
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:44.820
And what if they done?

1618
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.320
They've destroyed Big Ben.

1619
01:03:46.380 --> 01:03:48.719
They've destroyed the Girk and like it would have been just

1620
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:54.659
another London landmark for Russell to destroy, but...

1621
01:03:54.659 --> 01:03:59.760
They also talking to Clarence house, apparently, about getting

1622
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:03.300
destroying the Charles to do a cameo because he's a huge fan.

1623
01:04:03.420 --> 01:04:04.260
Is he?

1624
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:04.679
Yes.

1625
01:04:04.739 --> 01:04:05.579
Oh okay.

1626
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.059
Because no one was so upper middle class.

1627
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:12.300
And so this is, of course, Doctor Who royalty as well, because

1628
01:04:12.300 --> 01:04:13.559
Jessica Martin.

1629
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:16.980
Jessica Martin who played Mags in Greatest Show in the Galaxy.

1630
01:04:16.980 --> 01:04:18.000
No way.

1631
01:04:18.059 --> 01:04:18.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1632
01:04:19.019 --> 01:04:23.639
And he's back on Big Finish playing exactly the same character.

1633
01:04:23.699 --> 01:04:27.119
And also recently wrote a comic strip about her character.

1634
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:31.139
I'd have to have seen the queen turn into a werewolf in this.

1635
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:32.280
That'll never happen.

1636
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:33.119
That's canon.

1637
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.699
We have established that she is a werewolf.

1638
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:37.920
He really wanted it to fly through it.

1639
01:04:37.980 --> 01:04:40.380
No, I don't think the nation would have loved him for that.

1640
01:04:40.500 --> 01:04:43.559
But he does get to destroy it later, so it's fine.

1641
01:04:43.619 --> 01:04:44.760
It's a great choice.

1642
01:04:44.820 --> 01:04:47.340
Which isn't it wonderful?

1643
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:48.480
And that's Yamato.

1644
01:04:48.539 --> 01:04:51.179
That is Star Blazers...

1645
01:04:51.179 --> 01:04:52.920
Utris and Kanya Mato.

1646
01:04:52.980 --> 01:04:56.099
I mean, we'll get there next year, but the fact...

1647
01:04:56.099 --> 01:04:56.579
Thank you.

1648
01:04:56.579 --> 01:04:57.300
Happy Christmas.

1649
01:04:57.539 --> 01:04:59.280
Merry Christmas.

1650
01:04:59.340 --> 01:05:00.840
I like her rollers.

1651
01:05:01.500 --> 01:05:04.019
But she uses Daimlers normally.

1652
01:05:04.380 --> 01:05:06.360
It's a dad joke.

1653
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:07.500
It's Christmas.

1654
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:09.360
And there he goes.

1655
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:11.519
He's happy playing every partner.

1656
01:05:11.579 --> 01:05:15.179
Now I get why the can they all open their mouths any wider?

1657
01:05:15.179 --> 01:05:16.440
Every single one of them.

1658
01:05:16.500 --> 01:05:18.239
I'll kiss.

1659
01:05:18.300 --> 01:05:19.320
Go on, go and produce.

1660
01:05:19.380 --> 01:05:20.880
Oh, that was acting.

1661
01:05:22.019 --> 01:05:25.920
Even Russell still got a bit, you know, happening there.

1662
01:05:28.980 --> 01:05:30.480
And there goes Max.

1663
01:05:30.539 --> 01:05:32.280
Hooray, he exploded.

1664
01:05:35.340 --> 01:05:37.739
Oh, gosh, Doctor Who looks great at this time, doesn't it?

1665
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:38.699
It does, doesn't it?

1666
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:39.059
Yeah.

1667
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:43.199
Really, this episode has much more budget than it ought to have.

1668
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.960
Yeah, well, you know, like I can see them saving up for this.

1669
01:05:46.019 --> 01:05:48.960
This is their big... their biggest Christmas special ever.

1670
01:05:49.019 --> 01:05:49.559
Yeah.

1671
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:53.099
They wanted to be and it was and it's still, you know, their

1672
01:05:53.099 --> 01:05:54.119
highest rating episode.

1673
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:56.159
Oh there we go.

1674
01:05:56.219 --> 01:05:58.380
He does remember that a whole bunch of people got killed.

1675
01:05:58.500 --> 01:06:02.219
I just thoroughly enjoyed this yet again.

1676
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:04.380
Shouldn't it have been called a transmit?

1677
01:06:04.500 --> 01:06:07.260
No, no, it's...

1678
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:09.119
No, because it's a Blake 7 reference.

1679
01:06:09.179 --> 01:06:09.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1680
01:06:09.900 --> 01:06:11.099
A Blake 7...

1681
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:17.940
He's doing exactly what exactly what Foon was doing early on.

1682
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:18.840
Yeah.

1683
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:21.659
Yeah, it's wonderful.

1684
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:22.320
Name that.

1685
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:25.260
It's a pretty straightforward plot, but it's like all of the

1686
01:06:25.260 --> 01:06:26.460
points are quite well seated.

1687
01:06:26.579 --> 01:06:28.199
It's a good standard old.

1688
01:06:28.260 --> 01:06:29.639
Yeah, Doctor Who bit of fun.

1689
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:34.440
Oh, and of course, because it's Christmas, she comes back as the

1690
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:36.719
spirit of BBC ratings.

1691
01:06:38.099 --> 01:06:41.820
As a BBC one ident at Christmas.

1692
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:42.420
Yes.

1693
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:44.760
Oh, and ethicles and...

1694
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:45.840
I do like that.

1695
01:06:45.900 --> 01:06:49.139
It just shows her warmth that she's still regarded and still

1696
01:06:49.139 --> 01:06:51.059
popular and still, you know, earning over there.

1697
01:06:51.179 --> 01:06:54.900
She wouldn't have done so well had she stayed in Australia because

1698
01:06:54.900 --> 01:06:56.699
we know what she...

1699
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.219
She's a grease monkey.

1700
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:00.059
Oh.

1701
01:07:00.539 --> 01:07:02.519
Stop me from falling.

1702
01:07:02.579 --> 01:07:05.940
Oh, isn't that a reference to one of her songs?

1703
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:08.699
I've made a few during this podcast.

1704
01:07:08.699 --> 01:07:10.320
Under my breath.

1705
01:07:10.380 --> 01:07:12.659
We'll see people pick up on that.

1706
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:14.519
Stop even falling.

1707
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.760
It's actually a reference to this episode because it was recorded

1708
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:18.179
later.

1709
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:18.960
Yeah.

1710
01:07:19.500 --> 01:07:21.599
Isn't that off golden?

1711
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:22.920
anyway.

1712
01:07:23.219 --> 01:07:26.039
She becomes she becomes Stardust.

1713
01:07:26.099 --> 01:07:29.340
I had this dream where the stardust was scooped up by the

1714
01:07:29.340 --> 01:07:33.300
celestial toy maker, and reconfigured into a real Kylie, and then

1715
01:07:33.300 --> 01:07:35.880
the doctor would, uh, go and rescue her.

1716
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:38.699
In another Christmas special, would meet her again versus the

1717
01:07:38.699 --> 01:07:39.780
celestial toy maker.

1718
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:40.679
What a wonderful idea.

1719
01:07:40.739 --> 01:07:46.920
Or she turns into... puddle... a puddly lesbian.

1720
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.119
Oh, that could be a thing.

1721
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:50.820
And makes out with Bill.

1722
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:52.739
Oh, here we go.

1723
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.619
Oh my lord, it's Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore.

1724
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.099
But he's, like, he's so much the romantic lead.

1725
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:06.480
He is so, like, I, you know, I know that you don't like the doctor

1726
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:10.260
snogging the companion structured, but I don't mind that here

1727
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:12.000
think we've heard that.

1728
01:08:12.059 --> 01:08:13.320
Oh, there she does.

1729
01:08:13.380 --> 01:08:16.140
She is the Tardis-ish thing really is.

1730
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.079
And even Mr. Upper Middle Class is even sad.

1731
01:08:19.140 --> 01:08:20.100
Yeah, yeah.

1732
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.340
You kind of think out of this, he might actually be redeemed in

1733
01:08:23.340 --> 01:08:23.760
some way.

1734
01:08:23.819 --> 01:08:25.439
There was this next line.

1735
01:08:25.500 --> 01:08:27.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah. to show that he's still a horrible person.

1736
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.680
But he was showing sort of upset and slight embarrassment when the

1737
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.439
doctor was refusing, you know, the doctor's so clearly in denial

1738
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:39.659
about how she can't be saved and there's a shot of Rickston or

1739
01:08:39.659 --> 01:08:41.579
whatever his name is looking kind of sad.

1740
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.199
I believe it's Prixton.

1741
01:08:43.260 --> 01:08:44.579
Yes, quiet.

1742
01:08:45.300 --> 01:08:47.460
Thank you, don't talk.

1743
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:51.119
Lovely shots. lovely montage.

1744
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:54.720
Charles Palmer's really knocking it out of the park today.

1745
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.159
I know, it's Graham Harper.

1746
01:08:59.220 --> 01:08:59.460
Sorry.

1747
01:09:00.180 --> 01:09:01.979
Graham Harper.

1748
01:09:01.979 --> 01:09:03.659
That was time crash.

1749
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:05.340
Isn't it Peter Moffin?

1750
01:09:07.140 --> 01:09:09.359
It's Ron Jones.

1751
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:11.579
He's learned how to direct.

1752
01:09:12.060 --> 01:09:16.079
I thought it was Warris Hussein. would like to see that.

1753
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:21.720
Oh, So he's going to abandon his home planet of Stowe.

1754
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:24.239
And run off in an all time.

1755
01:09:24.300 --> 01:09:25.079
Why is he going to jail?

1756
01:09:25.140 --> 01:09:25.859
I can't remember.

1757
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.800
Because he perjured himself, basically.

1758
01:09:28.859 --> 01:09:31.260
Because he lied on his resume.

1759
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:33.899
He ate his way through an entire primary school.

1760
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:36.000
I don't know.

1761
01:09:36.060 --> 01:09:39.600
I don't know how Frank Thring, as Frank Thring would say, a

1762
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:40.439
primary is.

1763
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:43.020
Nobody even has to go for a medical checkup or anything because

1764
01:09:43.020 --> 01:09:45.899
then they'll have to go to unit or something, won't he?

1765
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:47.279
And he's got 8 hearts.

1766
01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:51.420
Oh, there's a happy ending.

1767
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:54.960
And like he's he's selling this as if they've attended it's going

1768
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.779
to be hugely, the doctor's going to be hugely impressed by this

1769
01:09:57.779 --> 01:09:58.439
happy ending.

1770
01:09:58.500 --> 01:09:59.220
Hooray.

1771
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:00.479
Rickston's rich.

1772
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:05.399
I didn't really want a redemption from Rickston, but I guess

1773
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:06.180
that's the point of Christmas.

1774
01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:08.279
No, no, we don't, we don't. don't get a redemption.

1775
01:10:08.340 --> 01:10:12.239
He gets rich and learns nothing and is still a deeply horrible

1776
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:12.899
bastard.

1777
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:13.680
But he's still here.

1778
01:10:13.739 --> 01:10:14.760
Yeah, yeah.

1779
01:10:14.819 --> 01:10:18.359
But I mean, then we get this bit of dialogue here about that, don't

1780
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:18.479
we?

1781
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:20.460
That's the point of Christmas.

1782
01:10:21.180 --> 01:10:24.239
You have to make...

1783
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:25.739
Make fun with people you hate.

1784
01:10:27.060 --> 01:10:29.159
And David's doing it now.

1785
01:10:31.859 --> 01:10:34.020
Ironic, that's a good line.

1786
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:35.460
I played Rickston Slade was lovely.

1787
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.100
And this lovely old man was a bust.

1788
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:42.359
You're going to be on Blake 7.

1789
01:10:43.739 --> 01:10:45.539
A slave.

1790
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:49.140
And also they don't treat their guests very well in the 4th

1791
01:10:49.140 --> 01:10:49.560
season.

1792
01:10:49.619 --> 01:10:54.960
No, under no circumstances, agree to repair the spaceship's

1793
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:55.140
engine.

1794
01:10:55.260 --> 01:11:00.359
Did you see Pitt Madley's one where he spliced Tom into that

1795
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:00.659
moment.

1796
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.300
So you've got Avon saying doctor, you have a minute.

1797
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:04.439
No, this is Bulls Tom.

1798
01:11:04.500 --> 01:11:05.399
That woman, the doctor.

1799
01:11:05.460 --> 01:11:06.779
Yeah, Dr. Blackton.

1800
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.479
You've got yes in a minute and poor Tom.

1801
01:11:09.539 --> 01:11:12.600
Again, it's, it's, um, it's snow.

1802
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:19.319
Great France and great Germany. here we go No, no, it's just

1803
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:20.159
France and great.

1804
01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:21.060
And Germany.

1805
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:22.319
Only Britain is great, yeah.

1806
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:24.479
But give us 10 years.

1807
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:27.300
And we'll do something about that.

1808
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:33.659
So this is snow and it is fake, not real snow. again. again.

1809
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:34.439
Okay.

1810
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:36.720
So the Christmas invasion, it's the ballast of snow.

1811
01:11:36.779 --> 01:11:40.380
It's the, the, it's all, yeah, it's the ballast from the sheep.

1812
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:44.460
Christmas Invasion, it's all burned up... isn't it?

1813
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:45.239
Yes.

1814
01:11:45.300 --> 01:11:46.619
Well, at least they're consistent.

1815
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:47.159
Yeah.

1816
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.680
And this one, it's Clive's Clive Swift standard.

1817
01:11:49.739 --> 01:11:52.920
Oh, atmospheric exciting.

1818
01:11:52.979 --> 01:11:54.180
Exmospheric excitation.

1819
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.119
I'm just going to press this buttonless. just conveniently inside

1820
01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:58.199
the Tartar store.

1821
01:11:59.460 --> 01:12:01.260
Oh, well.

1822
01:12:01.260 --> 01:12:05.460
Say, this is our last good Christmas special for a while, spoiler.

1823
01:12:05.939 --> 01:12:07.619
Okay, sorry.

1824
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:11.880
I'm being horrible I can't even remember what next year's one is

1825
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:13.079
at the end of season four.

1826
01:12:13.140 --> 01:12:14.340
It involves a king.

1827
01:12:14.460 --> 01:12:16.500
No, still nowhere.

1828
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:17.340
The next doctor.

1829
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.500
Oh, I didn't.

1830
01:12:19.619 --> 01:12:20.159
Oh, okay.

1831
01:12:20.220 --> 01:12:22.020
That felt terribly sad.

1832
01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:25.199
I don't think anyone redeems what happens possibly in season 4

1833
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:25.859
spoilers.

1834
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:27.960
I don't think it's possible to go.

1835
01:12:28.020 --> 01:12:31.800
I mean, this one, it sort of has moments to go forward and it's a

1836
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:33.539
lightness of touch, even though there's a sadness.

1837
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:37.199
You know, when he gives him a 1000000 pounds, at the time, I

1838
01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:37.920
thought, that's not enough.

1839
01:12:37.979 --> 01:12:39.539
Yeah, I was thinking that too.

1840
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.960
He sets up a whole charitable foundation and pays for something

1841
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:43.859
later on.

1842
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:44.819
What does he pay for?

1843
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:49.079
It would have been nice for $10 million.

1844
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:53.520
It's not even enough to buy a small flat in London.

1845
01:12:53.579 --> 01:12:56.159
Yes, the Mr. Copper Foundation does something really good in

1846
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:56.760
season four.

1847
01:12:56.819 --> 01:12:59.100
Yeah, it's in stolen Earther Journey's end or something.

1848
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:00.659
There's some reference too.

1849
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:01.199
Yeah, yeah.

1850
01:13:01.260 --> 01:13:02.640
Harriet Jones mentions it, I think.

1851
01:13:02.699 --> 01:13:04.680
Well, we'll get there eventually.

1852
01:13:07.739 --> 01:13:10.079
Maybe he invests it in...

1853
01:13:10.140 --> 01:13:11.699
This is card of copper.

1854
01:13:12.180 --> 01:13:14.159
It's a copper foundation.

1855
01:13:14.220 --> 01:13:15.600
Spotify.

1856
01:13:16.020 --> 01:13:18.720
He's actually a terrible industrialist.

1857
01:13:18.779 --> 01:13:20.760
He's destroying the planet.

1858
01:13:23.819 --> 01:13:24.960
And a door.

1859
01:13:25.020 --> 01:13:26.460
A dog.

1860
01:13:27.300 --> 01:13:28.979
Oh, door.

1861
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:36.060
You're doing Todd Stick. without even realising it.

1862
01:13:36.060 --> 01:13:39.479
And this is actually a lovely...

1863
01:13:39.539 --> 01:13:40.560
I have a kitchen for the French.

1864
01:13:41.340 --> 01:13:43.260
No, that comes later.

1865
01:13:43.380 --> 01:13:45.840
He's dancing to a Kylie Minogue song.

1866
01:13:45.899 --> 01:13:47.399
The ultra modern Spatoon.

1867
01:13:47.460 --> 01:13:49.859
Why couldn't we have had a Kylie song at the end of Christmas

1868
01:13:49.859 --> 01:13:50.159
Kylie?

1869
01:13:53.220 --> 01:13:54.600
No, that's nice.

1870
01:13:54.659 --> 01:13:56.279
There's some nice final shots here.

1871
01:13:56.340 --> 01:13:57.479
They really are beautiful.

1872
01:13:57.539 --> 01:14:03.000
And there's just beautiful emotion from both of them and Mr. Copper

1873
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:04.140
you know, David's great.

1874
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:05.220
And the music here is beautiful.

1875
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:06.060
There she goes.

1876
01:14:06.060 --> 01:14:08.100
Off to see the celestial toy maker.

1877
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:10.560
Off to sea to the celestial toy.

1878
01:14:10.619 --> 01:14:13.079
Oh, that's not going to go well for anyone.

1879
01:14:16.260 --> 01:14:18.239
That's it, isn't it?

1880
01:14:18.300 --> 01:14:19.260
I know, it does facts.

1881
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:20.819
And it tumbles off into the tents.

1882
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:26.880
Well, or Cardiff Bay.

1883
01:14:26.939 --> 01:14:28.020
Whatever it is.

1884
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:30.180
The Ghost of Adjoc is shot that.

1885
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:31.260
That has just come down.

1886
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:33.000
Oh, I forgot that, wasn't it?

1887
01:14:33.060 --> 01:14:33.779
I've forgotten that too.

1888
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:34.619
Oh, wow.

1889
01:14:34.619 --> 01:14:37.739
And the ghost of Matthew Waterhouse who's still in the fluid link

1890
01:14:37.739 --> 01:14:38.100
somewhere.

1891
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:39.779
Oh here we go.

1892
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:41.039
Oh, so comedian.

1893
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:44.819
Clearly, we do have a fair amount in the can by the time this...

1894
01:14:44.939 --> 01:14:45.359
Yeah we did.

1895
01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:47.279
By the time it airs, yes.

1896
01:14:47.340 --> 01:14:50.819
No, but I meant when they were, yeah, this was shot. sort of 5

1897
01:14:50.819 --> 01:14:51.960
months before it was broadcast.

1898
01:14:52.020 --> 01:14:55.979
Like, you know, the traditional Christmas special shot in July.

1899
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:56.760
Yeah, yeah.

1900
01:14:56.819 --> 01:14:57.960
The hottest time of the year.

1901
01:14:58.020 --> 01:14:59.340
Yeah.

1902
01:14:59.340 --> 01:15:01.020
Well, we could saw that last year, certainly.

1903
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:03.000
Oh wow.

1904
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:06.300
There's actually a lot in this trailer, isn't there?

1905
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:06.899
Yeah, yeah.

1906
01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:09.840
They're from the 1st two, channel 4 recording blocks.

1907
01:15:09.899 --> 01:15:11.579
Yeah, the 1st 5 episodes.

1908
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:13.680
Donna's got real Liz Sladden.

1909
01:15:13.739 --> 01:15:15.119
We saw Agatha Christie in there?

1910
01:15:15.180 --> 01:15:16.140
Yeah, we did.

1911
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:16.800
That's much later.

1912
01:15:16.859 --> 01:15:19.380
Though the Agatha Christie episode was supposed to be broadcasted

1913
01:15:19.380 --> 01:15:23.220
the very, like, you know, episode 3 or 4 at some and was pushed

1914
01:15:23.220 --> 01:15:23.760
way back.

1915
01:15:23.819 --> 01:15:25.859
It's like the 1st 7 episodes.

1916
01:15:26.579 --> 01:15:29.460
But they already had that in the can, is what I'm saying. was

1917
01:15:29.460 --> 01:15:30.840
supposed to be brought across the team was pushed back.

1918
01:15:30.899 --> 01:15:31.920
Macononey?

1919
01:15:31.979 --> 01:15:35.340
Has anyone seen and you just, oh, yes, that's the same face.

1920
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:37.319
That's a great way to end it too.

1921
01:15:37.380 --> 01:15:41.159
With a vicar saying what an entertaining evening.

1922
01:15:41.220 --> 01:15:43.260
It has been very entertaining.

1923
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:43.979
Yeah, it really has.

1924
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.220
It really has been. was much better than it ought to be.

1925
01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:48.600
Oh no, I agree.

1926
01:15:48.659 --> 01:15:49.680
I think it's really really great.

1927
01:15:49.739 --> 01:15:53.159
And there's a lovely, jolly rollicking pace, which I don't

1928
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:53.760
remember.

1929
01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:54.960
This titles, my gosh.

1930
01:15:55.020 --> 01:15:56.279
Lots of titles.

1931
01:15:56.340 --> 01:15:59.579
No, I don't remember it being that rap at all that well that

1932
01:15:59.579 --> 01:15:59.939
tight.

1933
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:02.279
No.

1934
01:16:02.340 --> 01:16:06.479
And we say as we say farewell to Russell Toby.

1935
01:16:06.539 --> 01:16:06.899
Yeah.

1936
01:16:07.500 --> 01:16:09.000
All right.

1937
01:16:09.060 --> 01:16:10.920
Well, I think we might wind it up.

1938
01:16:10.979 --> 01:16:11.819
What do you think?

1939
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:13.800
Any final thoughts, gentlemen?

1940
01:16:13.859 --> 01:16:15.600
Kali was great.

1941
01:16:15.659 --> 01:16:16.680
Kali's lovely.

1942
01:16:16.739 --> 01:16:18.840
Best Russell Christmas special.

1943
01:16:18.899 --> 01:16:19.619
Hands down.

1944
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:20.699
Yeah, I think that's fair.

1945
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:24.239
And the forcemeat stuffing award goes to Russell too.

1946
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:26.819
I like Russell Toby.

1947
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:30.359
I didn't comment on the new version of the theme, wasn't it

1948
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:30.539
great?

1949
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:31.439
No, loved it.

1950
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.500
Actually notice this.

1951
01:16:34.500 --> 01:16:34.859
No.

1952
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:36.720
Doesn't feel that much different, does it?

1953
01:16:36.779 --> 01:16:38.340
No, it's a lot more orchestrated.

1954
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:39.479
A bit boomier.

1955
01:16:39.539 --> 01:16:40.199
Yeah, yeah.

1956
01:16:40.260 --> 01:16:41.399
More violins.

1957
01:16:41.460 --> 01:16:42.600
All right.

1958
01:16:42.659 --> 01:16:45.119
Well, dear listener, that's all we have time for this week.

1959
01:16:45.180 --> 01:16:48.840
We'll be back early next year with our coverage of series 4 and

1960
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:52.619
back ridiculously soon for our series 12 coverage on Jody and

1961
01:16:52.619 --> 01:16:53.100
Taterra.

1962
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:56.460
In the meantime, you can find us wherever you get your podcasts

1963
01:16:56.460 --> 01:16:59.640
and you can keep up with us at Flight through Entirety on Facebook

1964
01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:03.000
at FTE Podcast on Twitter, and on our website, Flight through

1965
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:06.239
Entirety.com, where you'll find links to our other podcasts

1966
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:08.340
Bondfinger, and Jody into Terra.

1967
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:12.119
Until next time, may your Christmas be joyous and somewhat less

1968
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:15.779
final than Astrid Peth's was in 2007.

1969
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.300
Thank you very much for listening and good night.

1970
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:19.079
Good night.

1971
01:17:19.140 --> 01:17:19.619
See you soon.

1972
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:20.159
Good then.