Hello and welcome back to Flight Through Entirety, the only Doctor
Who podcast, which has served this country for 7 generations, but
that seems not to count for much these days.
I am Brendan.
I'm Nathan And I'm that order of pizza marinari.
You called for, which is so many great plot lines started so
similarly, didn't they?
That's not for here.
Although is it?
I think we've actually reached carry-on doctor, haven't we?
We have indeed.
And so we're carrying on up the Khyber right up to Scotland via
Sussex for Terror of the Zygons.
Hang on, what's that?
Isn't that Douglas Canfield singing that little dirgy ditty right
now?
Because, you know, it's Dougie Canfield singing when Oqui Angus is
polishing up his eyeballs.
Polishing up Broton's remote eyeballs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, on the on the 11th stagger.
Do you think there's a listener alive or indeed past who hasn't
seen this story?
Because I know our chums in Canadian haven't heard, haven't seen
it yet, have they?
Have they not?
No.
It was the last DVD to be released, wasn't it, in the DVD?
Until the Philip Morris extravaganza, which were too...
But it was certainly very late.
And people were asking, why, why is this coming so late?
It was always intended to be the last of the classic BBC range.
And then the Philip Morris rediscoveries, which we're still
promised, 16 or 17?
Well, now even Tom Spielsbury has said that he firmly believes
there is nothing left to come back.
Right.
Oh that's for another podcast.
Anyway, we talked about all this.
Back with back in around episode 15 to 20.
We're not still bitter that we don't have enough Patrick and our
lives, are we?
No, no, don't be silly.
Moving on.
Richard, terror of the Zygons is yours.
It's funny you should mention Patrick.
Isn't this actually an Avengers story that just happens to have
the doctor in it again?
Oh, hang on, it's Robert Banks Stewart.
And he'll come and do this again to us at the end of the year when
it's, do you know what the original plot of this was?
What?
It was a gaggle, Q Gareth Roberts, if we're thinking of the well
mannered war or the English way of death, or indeed, one of the
closing time.
What are some of the news stories that Gareth has written for
Shakespeare?
Shakespeare code.
That was fun, yeah.
The lodger, a lodger.
I love the lodger.
The lodger.
You know, there's trickster stories with Sarah Jane.
They look great.
Whatever happened with Sarah Jane.
Adventures.
Well, we know she's hanging around in Surrey putting on a faux
Maggie Smith accent.
This one, the original plot, was a story of a gaggle of eccentrics
faking a monster attack and an attempt for world domination
inverted commas.
If that's not a Diana Rig story, I don't know what it is.
Sounds like a robot.
Well, Pat probably makes Yeah, but Robert B. Stewart was did seem
to be a bit miffed that he'd kind of been excised from the
Avengers when Terry Nation. in fact, took over script editing in
the Tara King Linda Thorson season.
And so, and Bank Stewart was kind of given a bit of an elbow.
So maybe there are a few old plots hanging around.
But in the early days, yes, that was the vision of this, but it
soon turned into something a hell of a lot more exciting.
You know, it wasn't even called the Zygote Zygons thing with just
look at what the Zygons are, because I think this story is totally
fantastic, for 3 things.
It's the way the central cast just work together so brilliantly
and stretch themselves out in new ways.
Harry is kind of amazing in this, really, probably the best you'll
ever be, simply by being anti-hairy, you know, what a shame he
didn't get going to Zita Minor and doing a rumba with the with the
shower curtain monster that would have been right.
Could.
Could have only improved it.
He will get to come back and be evil again.
Yes, when Doctor Who reboots.
Doctor Who reboots the zombie apocalypse by having a much loved
preseasonal, you know, previous season companion who was
everything we ever wanted to be act as if he's a walking cadaver
terrible.
But to where we are, timey points.
Yes, the 2nd one is the location and the secondary cast.
I don't want to call them the extras because they shine as
brilliantly and brightly.
Oh, Duke of Fogel, you've won my heart.
Never leave me.
John, wouldn't it?
is just... wouldn't you?
Isn't he brilliant?
There's always the saturnine surly.
You realise it's broke on picking them up in his red land Range
Rover.
Number 3 is design and especially costume design and really glam
rock foetuses.
The same sort of pink things we used to put our bath soaps on in
the 70s that had little suction cups all over the mat.
That's the little zigon foetal things.
It was zigon footpads.
That's what they.
It looks beautiful.
It was it's James Atcheson again, isn't it?
And set design is Nigel Curzon, whom we love and admired.
So it's through the deleted scene. yes It's frocking up.
You know what this was meant to be, don't you?
This was Dougie's own insertion.
Canfield's own insertion as the tail end to his very 1st unit
story invasion, where the TARDIS appears invisible in a cow
field.
Yes, that's very true.
And it was Canfield's on mage to that.
So, do you get it?
Do you get it?
It was in the novelisation, so I was always aware of the scene, but
it was never in the show.
My favourite thing about it, there's 2 great things about it, I
think.
And one is that Tom knows he's in Scotland because he's dressed
for it.
That's what he says.
I'm best for it.
And there's a little moment where Sarah and Harry are there and
they're just speculating about where they could be.
They could be anywhere in the world.
They could be in a forest in sort of eastern Europe or something.
Sussex.
Yeah, so small, aren't they?
But that's kind of nice.
I think it is a good scene.
And I think it does, it looks all right on the DVD, doesn't it?
Yeah, I had to fix it.
The colourisation is so good.
I believe it was colorised by Stuart Humphreys of Babel Colour, who
also worked on the Mind of Evil episode one colourisation, which
yeah, exactly for which we adore him.
But it's...
It's one of those things where you can see why it was cut out.
It doesn't move the plot anywhere at all.
It's just this charming character moment between these 3 people.
And I think had terror of the Zigons not been held back because it
was meant to go out immediately after Avenge of the Zigons.
I think they might have kept it if it had been the following week
because as you were saying through most of last season, Nathan
yeah, our 3 heroes go through some really horrible stuff. in that
arc of stories from arc and space through to Revenge of the
Cybermen.
So to have them land and have this little scene where they're
going, oh, where are we?
I'm dressed for Scotland.
So we're in Scotland.
It's a fun little moment, but yeah, we don't, it only adds putting
it back in.
We don't, we aren't bereft because the rest of the story is so
amazing anyway.
Although as a young viewer, I really loved that they just came
traipse and trolling out of the woods, cough, cough, together
wearing each other's clothes.
It set up a great...
Yeah, yeah.
And it's also that they might have been, they might indeed have
been a whole other adventure.
We promulgated and probably used that word because we were those
sorts of children in the playground the next day.
Remember that?
I was saying, well, what had they been?
Perhaps there'd been a whole other adventure.
Do you realise before we move into the story?
Because this is just one of the things that's just too exciting to
not take the scenic route around the banks of the loch.
Do you realise that Sir Peter Scott?
Peter Scott was a conservatist, and he was scanning the lock, as
he did, so he's something of an eccentric, released a sonar shot
of what looked like a fin, or more technically correct, a fluke of
a large sea creature in Loch Ness.
And he immediately had it, and Nathan, you can correct us on our
Latin, immediately had it declared Necetarius rhomboopterics, which
as far as I know, means something called Nessie that's got a
rhomboid fin.
Yeah, rhombo.
But then he did...
Yeah, well, we certainly never got to that bit. so it could be
declared an endangered species.
And it was a wee little thing.
It wasn't the size of, you know, because I don't honestly think
that the garrison would be able to flaunt it about, not
necessarily a bit too big.
This is Loctes isn't that...
Well yes, but it's not it's not that deep.
It's a bit too stop motion.
A bit too stop motion.
But yeah, all these really lovely, interesting things were going
on, and then, of course, this is the perfect setting, and of
course, you haven't mentioned Santa for yet, and we haven't had a
drink.
This is the winter season.
And as a boy, we had a very cold winter in Sydney that year, and I
remember running home from school through fields, not unlike.
Yes, we had fields even in freshwater.
And I'm thinking about the coldness of this season, and this
particular story, and it really bit in, and it won it, on that
under level, and Santa has talked about autumnal themes, being
about the internal dialogue, and being about the world inside
which is why you don't get a lot of great horror stories set on
beaches. tends to be about woodsy, colder places where the mind
turns in on itself.
This story also does a lovely thing of the silky folk, which do
sound like something Nathan would have just bought as a pet.
But these were the seals in Scottish Legend, the seals who would
occasionally assume human form, very much like the English fairy
stories.
And the fairy folk were not the little things dancing in the
bottom of your garden.
They swapped human children for their own folk who were
changelings so that they could move about in the real world as
well.
It's a perfect Zigon story. quite beautiful.
Oh, Sarah can't read mediaeval Latin in this one.
Did you notice it in the library?
pretty disappointed, actually.
But she can in the ghosts event space.
Did you all go away and listen to that?
Obviously boned up on it.
That can't be right.
That's set beforehand.
Why would anybody listen to the Ghost of Inspace?
It's almost like someone on this podcast recommend it?
There are a lot of Scottish things here.
You know what I mean?
So we recreate it.
I'm wearing tartan as we speak.
So it's weird.
We recreate the opening moment of the sea devils, don't we?
Only with a with a oil rig.
And infinitely superior music from the wonderful pen and
conductor's baton of Jeffrey Burton.
Thanks for signing Jeffrey Bergen, because that's the reason this
story ultimately works.
The costumes are beautiful, but the music is everything. and look
at seeds of doom again.
Canfield and Bergen are a winning combo, aren't they?
And we have to thank for this.
The old 1960s misunderstanding between Dougie Canfield and Dudley
Simpson, meaning Canfield never wanted to work with Simpson again
and thus didn't.
They realised there was a reason.
I thought he just wanted to put his own texture.
No, no.
Apparently, apparently there was a dinner party after Planet of
Giants because that was the thing that the 2 of them worked on.
I believe they did also work on the crusade as well.
Oh okay.
But they had a dinner party and I think Canfield asked Simpson how
much he how much money he made.
I think it was, it was a bit more presumptuous on Campfield's
part.
Apparently.
Yes, he did ask Dudley how much do you make?
And Dudley said, oh, I make this much.
But then he asked Sudley, where do you live?
And Camfield thought, well, that's a very expensive area of
London.
He's either lied to me about his wage or he's come he's come
across the money in some other way and I don't deal with people
who are dishonest.
And it turned out to be something like Dudley or his wife had
inherited the house or inherited some money to buy the house.
So, you know, there was nothing untoward going on at all, but for
some reason that really got Dougie's backup, possibly because, you
know, he was a very straight down the line, ex-military man.
Yeah, but I think also part of Canfield's brilliance and his
curmudgeonliness is his very short temper.
So that's why he was able to cut through the dross very quickly
and get things done.
It also meant he his decision was the only one where there was any
truth, which also made perhaps not the easiest of guests to deal
with.
But he and Tom got on very well.
I mean, quite similar.
Tom is very...
Yeah, but that later on, that might not have been the way when
there was no Philip Hinchcliffe to keep Tom in his box.
Yes.
As we'll get to later on.
I really can't go past the Duke of Fogel and Broton.
And I honestly believe, Nathan, you were saying earlier, that
there is no Duke of Fogel. just broton mincing about all the time
having a lovely time.
Right, from the very beginning.
It's very clear that it's because remember Angus McCrannold.
I'm not going to do that again.
Who is the terribly camp landlord of the Fox Inn, isn't it?
Hello, fox. that so much.
That's been shot.
They really should they should have really had their own little
spinoff series, shouldn't they?
with Broton and Angus running and the cable in the fox in, running
their own painting and decorating business from polishing up the
eyeballs.
Despite the fact he doesn't have a boyfriend in this one, like he
did on the Ice Warriors, he's still as campus ever, and he's
wonderful.
Campus Garrison lactic outlets, yeah.
Oh, more of that light.
Yeah, because he's already delivered the stag's head, the bugged
stag's head to the fox.
Yes.
So he's been he has been brought on for a long time.
But he is just hilarious.
And, you know, like, why does he pick them up in the car?
You know, I think he drove up.
He comes over to pick a fight with Mr. Huckleham to deliver some
valuable exposition, I think.
But otherwise, you know, he's just gone.
In the shape of a haggis.
And we have a haggis mention.
We even do in the 1st thing.
So the 1st thing the guy talks about haggis, he says Disney can
instead of doesn't know.
You know, we've got Angus Rennie playing the bagpipes upstairs.
You've got the brigadier in a kilt.
You know, it's it's, I mean, it is a kind of ludicrous theme park
version of Scotland.
Well, we've done it to the Welsh, haven't we?
We have.
With the Welsh, it was a bit more insulting because...
Nobody respects them anyway.
Well, no.
It's kind of what was coming across. about redheads again, I'm
leaving.
I think I think because there were real political concerns and
political issues that were addressed in the group.
There certainly were, but there certainly were in Scotland at the
time as well.
The North Sea gas and oil, where they were talking about
separation, just as they have done this year, and it was, and part
of that in the Scottish Parliament was how the dramas and how the
stuff we get on Scottish TV for our children completely dissembles
and makes fun of Scotland, and then this goes out.
But I do think it's only very, vaguely political in a way that
Green Death wasn't Green Death.
Green Death was very definitely political.
The kind of theme parkness of the Scotland isn't quite. not a lot
of politics in history.
Although there is world ecology, just as there was in Green Death
same thing.
Yeah, yeah.
And we even get the doctor giving us the environmental moral of
the story in the 1st episode where he chastises the brigadier for
calling him back to deal with an emergency oil, an emergency.
You need to stop powering your planet with a mineral slide, but
there's your emergency.
Start looking at hydrogen dimension in this one.
No, no, he will mention next story.
He'll mention an alternative.
Oh, it actually does mention that.
I think he mentions hydrogen because that's been in the news this
year as well. something that may well be.
And just this morning, I watched the last in the current run of
the new Thunderbirds ago, which featured the Supreme Hadron
Collider.
Wow, it's gone from large...
Isn't that just Diana Ross's new readers?
Diana Ross is a nuclear physicist.
Danger in Cincinnati.
It'll be a chain reaction if you don't watch it.
Oh, usually we only get this far off topic if there's nothing to
talk about in the story, but I think this story just has so much.
It's so big, this is the thing.
Yeah, well, let's let's go back.
Let's do your checklist.
I don't have a checklist this time.
It's not Terry Nation then. one coming up.
But let's look, because we do get hints of the aliens already.
So we don't we get the normal F1 end of episode one alien reveal
where we actually see...
Yeah, and for once it's incredibly effective.
I think it's more effective than when the Daleks turn up because
we don't know what a Zygon looks like.
We've had a few hints and grabs in there.
And also it's attacking Sarah, so there's a cliffhanger moment.
It zooms in on its face, the face is for human expectations, the
face is underdeveloped and malformed.
It's an incredibly effective cliffhanger using the old Doctor Who
trope of let's reveal the monster at the end of episode one.
It is really effective.
And of course, it's beautifully shot by Dougie Campfield.
But in the lead up to that, we actually see that the inn is being
bugged and so you get a sort of stag head eye view of what's going
on in the Fox Inn.
And you get the hands manipulating the controls.
And I have a Doctor Who club at school and we watch this a little
while ago and the kids just roared with laughter at these rubbery
hands manipulating the controls.
It really is just incredibly rude looking.
How did they respond when Tom got to it?
There's nothing of it that's real love right there.
Yeah, yeah.
And you know what?
It looks like when he's performing that scene that Tom actually
hasn't seen the console before because the smiley gets through his
face.
I don't think that's the doctor.
That's Tom's only going, hold on.
This looks like, okay, keep it together.
I'll keep it.
Oh, I'm having so much fun.
I'm never ordering pizza marinara.
And of course, that end of episode one.
Cliffhanger takes place in the hospital because Harry has been
shot because by Nurse Ratchet from one flew over the cooker's nest
with a Scottish accent, same difference.
It's the same part, isn't it?
Just the same actress.
And we don't quite know why he's he turns up. pretty brutal
though.
In fact, there's some really beautiful direction there because the
1st guy who was complaining about the haggis on the oil rig
stumbles up the beach, and it's just absolutely beautifully shot.
Because it's directly lifted from the Avengers story, the town of
the return.
No return.
I was just gonna say that, yeah.
Does Campfield ever direct for the Avengers?
Yes, he does. you sure he does?
I thought he did on the manager of Surrey Green.
That's not that's not Duggee.
Yes, that does look a gorgeous thing when they come up from the
beach.
But that's also been in other films, lots of World War 2 films
where there was an obsession about spies coming in from the watery
deeps, if not the cold.
It's just beautifully lit, like spectacularly lit.
That guy gets shot dead and then Harry gets shot and he gets
captured by the fabulously scary sister lamb.
And then he could...
I think she's scarier than Nurse Raction.
I think she's the scariest thing to have ever been in Doctor Who
at any time before or since.
She's really great in episode.
I think it's episode three.
That bed pan would be full of ice cubes.
You just know it.
Yes, the sheep.
I'm not changing our sheets again, Mr. Sullivan.
You've been a very nut tipper.
Oh, you do that so well.
I don't think that would have been his response.
Harry gets taken down to the spaceship and given just the most
incredible guide and tour, I hope.
Yes, yes.
Even if I jumping.
We don't, we don't talk and get visitors in here.
Don't forget exchange, then here.
Yeah, so everything shows him how to change people into other
people, shows him the scarrison, explains about the lactic fluid.
So do you like what we've done with the war?
I think the lactic fluid is worth mentioning.
I think yes, a bit too much.
What did they live on before they got to?
Because you know it was a little embryo when they like it. were
they living on?
Well, I think they probably had 600.
Is it like Yakut?
of lactic fluid or fridge?
Or powdered...
Powdered...
Powdered scarrots and lactic fluids.
But he does mention that I'd like to think it's bonded polycarbide
armour, but we don't actually know other than that's not the
Scarrison's native form.
It's been armoured as a weapon.
So I'd like to think it's just a lovely, big, never-ending story
dragon puppy type of affair.
So I'm going to put something in the show notes, which is from the
TARDIS index file, from BBC America.
And if you look up the Zygons, it actually shows a picture of the
Scarrison, sort of coming along a conveyor belt and being milked
into milk. the galaxy star.
Stop motion, though.
No, no, it's like that animation from hitchhiker, it's because
it's like a...
It's really great.
So I will put that in the show.
I will also say that in the later big finish story.
The Zigon who fell to Earth, there is another Scarrison. and Tim
Brooke Taylor, it plays his Zigon called Mims, and it's his job to
milk the Scarrison.
Brilliant.
Now, is there only a truth in that?
The mink gloves.
You've got to be terribly careful.
Is there any truth in the room, Brendan, that you used Scarrison
lactic fluid in the creation of this month's baked good?
I did indeed.
Dear listener, you will find on the website the recipe for Zygon
carrot and apple muffins.
It really did look like you were heaving into a zybron
breastplate.
Extraordinary thing and quite beautiful and yes, I can recommend
them.
Highly, okay.
I'm trying to work out what the Zygon Stinger.
You know, these costumes were even better, but they are very glam
rock, you know, pedal pushing little things, and they're gorgeous
little Capri, latex, skinny tight jeans and cork on my high plum
salts.
But then with the huge gorgeous head.
But no, they, when they, they were going to light up the
cerebellum and the chest cavity was going to light up when they
used their stinger.
And it's such a shame we never got to see their stinger, partly A
because it caused too much heating up and B, they found the effect
to be unworkable.
So why was it unworkable?
Because the stinger looked like a penis.
Well, all they had to stop them in cursing.
All they had to do was wrap it in a clue.
Because everyone knows that if you have a monster that looks like
a penis, just wrap it in a cloak and now it looks like a penis in
a cloak.
Problem solved.
In amongst all this exposition we get, of course, we get the
Trilantic activator.
And while we're, you know, pitching at fair.
Is that the thing that sucks under, that's like a champagne cook
that sucks onto your wrist and can crawl around the table like a
Romy chest?
It does.
So what they've been doing is somehow they've been attaching it to
oil rigs where it emits...
It emits.
Wow, amazing signal.
And so the scarrison comes along and humps the leg of the oil
brick until you...
And choose it to death.
I don't think I want to go on a date with this car.
Well, yeah, aquatic creatures have some very strange mating
rituals.
There is a type of octopus, for instance. where the male tears off
its penis and hurls it at the female who inseminates herself.
I think we saw that in the state of origin.
I believe that I believe that was the cleanest, most scientific
way I could put it.
Poor bloody Scarrison, though.
It's the only one on earth, unless we take into account the one
that Big Finish later puts in.
And every time it thinks it's going for a day, it ends up with
this anorexic oil rig.
You know.
It just gets covered in oil afterwards.
A date with an oleaginous Gwyneth Paltrow.
I'm never going to turn out well, is it?
I have a terrible soft spot for this garrison because just like
those puppets in the late sort of per Tui era, they all seem to be
made out of sort of fox heads or terrier heads or something.
This one has real teeth, doesn't it?
It has real teeth. real sort of crazy rolling eyes and it just
looks like my dog Gracie.
And her podcasting debut on that trusty doctor episode.
Yes, yes.
It is like a little stop motion grace.
It's a shaved Mr. Snuffleopagus, isn't it, really?
The way it walks as well.
Yeah, see a lot of people kind of look at that and say, oh, no one
makes fun of that.
Why does everyone make fun of the dinosaurs in invasion of
dinosaurs?
And one, people do make fun of the scarous animal stop motion.
But I think the reason it doesn't come in for as much criticism
is.
They learned from the mistake of the dinosaurs.
And the dinosaurs were pretty poor puppets, whereas this is
halfway decent stop motion.
It's actually very good stock motion.
They just didn't have the time to do stop motion properly.
It's a really nicely done effect.
You know, if you don't have Harry Hausen, it's bloody good.
In episode 4, it is just a puppet and they throw the last
Trilantic activator into its mouth. and it chews really sort of
dismally.
And you really do expect Tim Brooke Taylor to come down the Grand
Garden of Bilotti in a weather balloon dressed as squid.
Now I want to see the scarrison versus kitten.
Rod and I have been making our way through the Godzillas again on
Blu-ray.
So, yeah, there's a fight I want to see.
That be amazing.
Atop the post office tower.
Botan doing voiceovers.
In fact, that scene, and we're kind of leaping ahead to episode 4
here a bit.
That scene where it appears in the World Energy Conference.
It appears in front of the photograph of just the most dismal
London office buildings by Thames in Banquet, and it just looks
like just every aspect of the scene looks so appallingly bad, and
I just couldn't stop smiling.
It was like the dinosaurs.
Hello, Sue Tech.
No, your story's not from...
It was like the dinosaurs in invasion of the dinosaurs.
I just love that so much.
I don't care that it's a terrible effect at all.
Neither does Su Tech. that's right.
And floating above the moor now, it sounds like someone's coming
in and they're bubble.
I thought it was just the telly playing up again.
Why have we got it held up from the ceiling like that?
You can never adjust the horizontal mould.
Hi guys.
And so at the end of this story, we say goodbye to Harry was Harry
Sullivan's potential fulfilled, or was it the right time for the
character to be written out?
My space time bubble seems to be passing through some sort of
strange matter.
Maybe antimatter.
I guess I'll see you guys on the other side.
Evil Harry.
Yeah, we get this one.
What of Demi Harry's birthday last year?
Really?
She looks really good in this one, didn't she?
Ian Marta getting a chance to be evil.
This is also Ian Martin's last story as a regular.
And I think this story is the biggest one that proves we could
have easily kept him on.
I know he was brought in to be the muscle, but because of his
quality as an actor, He really rises above that and we could, and
we could have kept him.
And the rapport with Tom as well as with Liz, it's a perfect
triumvirate.
Normally threesomes on screen.
Don't tend to work out that well, whether it's why, again, the
Avengers, you just have a man and a woman in most of those
series.
But the 3 part, 300 game is perfect.
You know who was really pushing to keep him and wanted him to stay
in the series.
Douglas Canfield.
And do you know who kept insisting?
Not once, not twice, but exactly.
Three knocks. 3 times he had the chance. 3 times he said, no, no
no.
And he's the 1st one to come now and say, I really wish we'd kept
him on.
Don't you love, right at the end, and sorry to jump forward, but
it's much like we do on this with this story as well.
So yes, they've seen the monster off at World ecology HQ or, you
know, BBC television centre beside the Thames.
Isn't it the same point of focus that Janet Fielding finally says
you can all bugger off at the end of resurrection, resuscitation
genuflection.
No, it is a different location.
It just feels the same gray, miserable 70s.
We forget how miserable 70s London was, but watch Doctor Who.
And then they all hot footed up on the train, no less, because we
know what a unit budget is just to see the doctor off in
Scotland.
Okay, the Duke of Fogel's got to go home.
Although somehow, where's he being all this time?
But the brigadier and Harry and Sarah all go up with the doctor
just I suppose just to see the doctor off because the TARDIS is up
there.
At what point does Harry decide there's no way I'm ever going back
again?
Is it one she's got his old clover on?
So I'm never going back.
Does he wear his?
Yeah, yeah, he's lucky.
He's back in full dress.
He's back in his full drag.
This is no doctor. be catching the train.
And I just think that's such a shame.
If the brig, because the brig was offered as well.
If the brig and Harry had stuck around, they soon would have made
mincemeat out of his old Su Tech, wouldn't they?
It's only been one episode long.
The brigadier went and got other work, didn't he?
He thought that he was pretty much over because remember this is
the last story of season 12, really.
That's right.
So this is his 2nd story of the year. like he's been doing the
last couple of times.
He's been doing that since sort of season 9 where unit stories top
and tail the thing.
I still think that it's strange that Sarah decides to get back in
the Tartar after the horrendous time that she's had in season 12
not making a lot of sense.
But she clearly loves the doctor and that's it.
You know, and he looks a bit forlorn when she says that she's not
going to go with him.
And so, you know, she decides to do that.
I also think this is a much better story for Sarah than the last
three.
She's a lot more proactive.
She gets a lot more to do.
She gets a few heroic moments as well.
I think it's just a bit less horrendous too.
I think that the present-day earth unit thing.
I don't know whether Holmes is sort of pulling back.
There's fewer Nazis in it.
You know, there's less torture. you know, like it's just generally
a little bit more fun than what we've been having.
Yeah.
The thing I really, really love about Sarah in this story.
And I only noticed it the last time I watched it.
When Evil Harry turns up and takes the Trilantic activator...
When Evil Harry takes up and turns up and takes the Trilantic
activator and Sarah goes after him, it's Sarah leading Sergeant
Benton and the unit troops.
I love that scene.
Yeah, come on, and they run after it.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like that scene in the new series where Eccleston is facing
down all the army blokes and they hear a scream and he's like
defence patent, tell them, move, move, move, and they all fall in
behind.
They all fall in behind Sarah, which is amazing and it's shot so
well by Campfield as well.
Everyone's running towards the camera.
It's comic book.
It's dynamic, but it's also restrengthening Sarah's character
after she has been poorly treated the last few stories.
Well, thank goodness that will never happen again.
I actually think Harry's pretty sidelined here apart from getting
to be evil, Harry, because he is shot in episode one and he really
only rejoins them in episode four.
And, you know, I was thinking, that's never happened to a Doctor
Who companion before, but it's happened in a Camfield story, it
happened to Jamie.
Jamie gets shot at the end of the invasion.
Oh, he has like a whole episode off or 2 episodes, or the rest of
the story off. get shot in episode 7 and yeah, only gets shown in
a film sequence of episode 8 because Fraser had a week off.
Canfield kind of likes killing or maiming the regular cast.
I mean look at Inferno.
I do think it is a little bit of a shame not to mention Sandra
again, given that I think that he has the best way of
understanding Broton and Broton's plan.
So Broton's plan is to take over the world by disrupting the world
energy conference.
Stanbridge House.
And he does that by just being a bond villain.
He thinks that the way to take over the world, he's clearly been
watching the Bond films on television during his time under the
loch, and he's decided that the best way of taking over the world
is to be sort of terribly suave, um, to dress very nicely, to look
superficially helpful and charming, but really to have, you know, a
secret, a secret tunnel in your study that's operated by moving a
book, uh, and then, and then to, uh, you know, deviously uh
arrange to blow up an entire building in London.
So it's a crummy plan.
You know what I mean?
I'd like to think that like Vivian Faye, and we don't see all the
other portraits of the previous dukes, but I would like to think
that it's actually just been brought on all these 700 years, which
doesn't seem to count for much.
I mean, it's really, well, I sort of built that, you know, that
again, the crummy revolving young Frankenstein bookcase and the
whole, the whole setup.
No, no, it's just been him the whole time.
Why else would he want to announce?
He's so subtle and so, um, so careful and with how they secrete
themselves and yet he wants to look. look, it's a monster and
announce themselves to a world of colleague. a world ecology get
together.
He really does.
I think move into his part a bit too much.
He does believe that I think he was actually going to ruin the
world at all.
I think Mike Yates would have been right up there with him, waving
a tentacle from the balcony.
Yeah, I think.
And I think possibly his favourite Bond film would be the spy who
loved me because there's lots of aquatic action in it.
Not fun to ball, because it's just silly.
No, not fun.
Stromberg is a kind of terrible bond villain.
Yeah, Stromberg is pretty bad.
Yeah.
He won't even shake tentacles.
And you know, come to think of it, around this time, being that
this story is set in 1980 or 1981.
So we just had Moonraker and for your eyes only is hot on its
heels.
Why could we be dropping all these bond references?
don't know.
I can't begin to say how good this is other than, if you haven't
seen it, Please don't be led by this podcast.
Just watch it.
And if it's been terribly confusing.
You won't be confused by watching it itself.
It makes a lot more sense than we do.
And I'm sure Richard will heartily approve of this.
This is one of the target novels which has been recently reprinted
by BBC books.
Unfortunately, they have modified the original cover, the original
cover, looks rather like a Looney Tunes cartoon with the doctor's
face in the middle of concentric, colourful circles.
Good will. with a huge target.
Right here, somewhere too.
Yes.
But yeah, do track it down if you can.
Well, dear listeners, we could go on about this story for at least
another 26 episodes, but that's all the time we have today for
Terror of the Zygons.
We will be back next week to discuss what is regarded as one of
the classics of the Hindecliff era, if not Doctor Who overall.
No, we're doing Planet of Evil next week.
Oh, damn, I always get these story orders mixed up.
I thought we were on Pyramids of Mars.
No, it is Planet of Evil next week, and you know what that means?
Chest hair.
It's chest hair and it's it's Paul Morrow.
And it's, oh, God, please, please just come back.
Come back, everyone for that. jungles.
It's got jungles.
If nothing else, it's got jungle.
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