WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-05-04 at 14:42:27 1 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:33.299 Hello and welcome back to Flight Through Entirety, the only Doctor 2 00:00:33.299 --> 00:00:36.479 Who podcast, which has served this country for 7 generations, but 3 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:38.100 that seems not to count for much these days. 4 00:00:38.460 --> 00:00:38.939 I am Brendan. 5 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.939 I'm Nathan And I'm that order of pizza marinari. 6 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:46.140 You called for, which is so many great plot lines started so 7 00:00:46.140 --> 00:00:46.920 similarly, didn't they? 8 00:00:46.979 --> 00:00:48.119 That's not for here. 9 00:00:48.179 --> 00:00:49.439 Although is it? 10 00:00:49.619 --> 00:00:53.039 I think we've actually reached carry-on doctor, haven't we? 11 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:54.179 We have indeed. 12 00:00:54.539 --> 00:00:59.100 And so we're carrying on up the Khyber right up to Scotland via 13 00:00:59.100 --> 00:01:01.320 Sussex for Terror of the Zygons. 14 00:01:01.380 --> 00:01:02.280 Hang on, what's that? 15 00:01:11.340 --> 00:01:14.640 Isn't that Douglas Canfield singing that little dirgy ditty right 16 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:14.819 now? 17 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.599 Because, you know, it's Dougie Canfield singing when Oqui Angus is 18 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:19.859 polishing up his eyeballs. 19 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:22.439 Polishing up Broton's remote eyeballs. 20 00:01:22.500 --> 00:01:24.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah, on the on the 11th stagger. 21 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.500 Do you think there's a listener alive or indeed past who hasn't 22 00:01:28.500 --> 00:01:28.980 seen this story? 23 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.700 Because I know our chums in Canadian haven't heard, haven't seen 24 00:01:32.700 --> 00:01:33.299 it yet, have they? 25 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:33.959 Have they not? 26 00:01:34.019 --> 00:01:34.379 No. 27 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:39.900 It was the last DVD to be released, wasn't it, in the DVD? 28 00:01:39.900 --> 00:01:43.560 Until the Philip Morris extravaganza, which were too... 29 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:44.640 But it was certainly very late. 30 00:01:44.700 --> 00:01:48.239 And people were asking, why, why is this coming so late? 31 00:01:48.299 --> 00:01:52.019 It was always intended to be the last of the classic BBC range. 32 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.920 And then the Philip Morris rediscoveries, which we're still 33 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:58.439 promised, 16 or 17? 34 00:01:58.500 --> 00:02:03.180 Well, now even Tom Spielsbury has said that he firmly believes 35 00:02:03.180 --> 00:02:04.620 there is nothing left to come back. 36 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:05.819 Right. 37 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:07.859 Oh that's for another podcast. 38 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.520 Anyway, we talked about all this. 39 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:15.539 Back with back in around episode 15 to 20. 40 00:02:15.780 --> 00:02:18.300 We're not still bitter that we don't have enough Patrick and our 41 00:02:18.300 --> 00:02:18.840 lives, are we? 42 00:02:18.900 --> 00:02:20.520 No, no, don't be silly. 43 00:02:20.580 --> 00:02:21.060 Moving on. 44 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:22.919 Richard, terror of the Zygons is yours. 45 00:02:22.979 --> 00:02:24.780 It's funny you should mention Patrick. 46 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.840 Isn't this actually an Avengers story that just happens to have 47 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.000 the doctor in it again? 48 00:02:30.060 --> 00:02:31.800 Oh, hang on, it's Robert Banks Stewart. 49 00:02:31.860 --> 00:02:34.259 And he'll come and do this again to us at the end of the year when 50 00:02:34.259 --> 00:02:36.240 it's, do you know what the original plot of this was? 51 00:02:36.300 --> 00:02:36.960 What? 52 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:40.979 It was a gaggle, Q Gareth Roberts, if we're thinking of the well 53 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:44.400 mannered war or the English way of death, or indeed, one of the 54 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:45.900 closing time. 55 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:48.000 What are some of the news stories that Gareth has written for 56 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:48.840 Shakespeare? 57 00:02:48.900 --> 00:02:49.560 Shakespeare code. 58 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:50.580 That was fun, yeah. 59 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:52.259 The lodger, a lodger. 60 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:53.099 I love the lodger. 61 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:53.819 The lodger. 62 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.939 You know, there's trickster stories with Sarah Jane. 63 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:57.900 They look great. 64 00:02:57.960 --> 00:02:59.460 Whatever happened with Sarah Jane. 65 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:00.180 Adventures. 66 00:03:00.300 --> 00:03:03.960 Well, we know she's hanging around in Surrey putting on a faux 67 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:05.280 Maggie Smith accent. 68 00:03:05.340 --> 00:03:08.939 This one, the original plot, was a story of a gaggle of eccentrics 69 00:03:08.939 --> 00:03:12.900 faking a monster attack and an attempt for world domination 70 00:03:12.900 --> 00:03:14.400 inverted commas. 71 00:03:14.460 --> 00:03:17.280 If that's not a Diana Rig story, I don't know what it is. 72 00:03:17.340 --> 00:03:18.840 Sounds like a robot. 73 00:03:18.900 --> 00:03:22.740 Well, Pat probably makes Yeah, but Robert B. Stewart was did seem 74 00:03:22.740 --> 00:03:24.960 to be a bit miffed that he'd kind of been excised from the 75 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.979 Avengers when Terry Nation. in fact, took over script editing in 76 00:03:28.979 --> 00:03:30.780 the Tara King Linda Thorson season. 77 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.740 And so, and Bank Stewart was kind of given a bit of an elbow. 78 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.800 So maybe there are a few old plots hanging around. 79 00:03:37.860 --> 00:03:41.099 But in the early days, yes, that was the vision of this, but it 80 00:03:41.099 --> 00:03:44.580 soon turned into something a hell of a lot more exciting. 81 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:49.800 You know, it wasn't even called the Zygote Zygons thing with just 82 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.020 look at what the Zygons are, because I think this story is totally 83 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:53.759 fantastic, for 3 things. 84 00:03:53.819 --> 00:03:57.840 It's the way the central cast just work together so brilliantly 85 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:59.699 and stretch themselves out in new ways. 86 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.939 Harry is kind of amazing in this, really, probably the best you'll 87 00:04:02.939 --> 00:04:07.439 ever be, simply by being anti-hairy, you know, what a shame he 88 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.879 didn't get going to Zita Minor and doing a rumba with the with the 89 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:13.560 shower curtain monster that would have been right. 90 00:04:13.620 --> 00:04:14.039 Could. 91 00:04:14.099 --> 00:04:15.120 Could have only improved it. 92 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:19.139 He will get to come back and be evil again. 93 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.300 Yes, when Doctor Who reboots. 94 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.680 Doctor Who reboots the zombie apocalypse by having a much loved 95 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:30.060 preseasonal, you know, previous season companion who was 96 00:04:30.060 --> 00:04:33.420 everything we ever wanted to be act as if he's a walking cadaver 97 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:34.259 terrible. 98 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:37.379 But to where we are, timey points. 99 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:41.879 Yes, the 2nd one is the location and the secondary cast. 100 00:04:41.939 --> 00:04:44.519 I don't want to call them the extras because they shine as 101 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:45.779 brilliantly and brightly. 102 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.600 Oh, Duke of Fogel, you've won my heart. 103 00:04:48.660 --> 00:04:49.680 Never leave me. 104 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:51.899 John, wouldn't it? 105 00:04:51.899 --> 00:04:53.759 is just... wouldn't you? 106 00:04:54.300 --> 00:04:56.459 Isn't he brilliant? 107 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:58.259 There's always the saturnine surly. 108 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:02.160 You realise it's broke on picking them up in his red land Range 109 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:02.519 Rover. 110 00:05:02.579 --> 00:05:07.980 Number 3 is design and especially costume design and really glam 111 00:05:07.980 --> 00:05:09.480 rock foetuses. 112 00:05:09.540 --> 00:05:12.959 The same sort of pink things we used to put our bath soaps on in 113 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.000 the 70s that had little suction cups all over the mat. 114 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.899 That's the little zigon foetal things. 115 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:20.040 It was zigon footpads. 116 00:05:20.100 --> 00:05:21.000 That's what they. 117 00:05:21.060 --> 00:05:21.839 It looks beautiful. 118 00:05:21.899 --> 00:05:24.240 It was it's James Atcheson again, isn't it? 119 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:28.920 And set design is Nigel Curzon, whom we love and admired. 120 00:05:28.980 --> 00:05:32.220 So it's through the deleted scene. yes It's frocking up. 121 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:33.899 You know what this was meant to be, don't you? 122 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.000 This was Dougie's own insertion. 123 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:38.939 Canfield's own insertion as the tail end to his very 1st unit 124 00:05:38.939 --> 00:05:42.120 story invasion, where the TARDIS appears invisible in a cow 125 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:42.480 field. 126 00:05:42.540 --> 00:05:43.800 Yes, that's very true. 127 00:05:43.860 --> 00:05:46.019 And it was Canfield's on mage to that. 128 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:46.800 So, do you get it? 129 00:05:46.860 --> 00:05:47.339 Do you get it? 130 00:05:47.459 --> 00:05:51.660 It was in the novelisation, so I was always aware of the scene, but 131 00:05:51.660 --> 00:05:52.500 it was never in the show. 132 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.199 My favourite thing about it, there's 2 great things about it, I 133 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:55.439 think. 134 00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:59.220 And one is that Tom knows he's in Scotland because he's dressed 135 00:05:59.220 --> 00:05:59.759 for it. 136 00:05:59.819 --> 00:06:01.560 That's what he says. 137 00:06:01.620 --> 00:06:02.579 I'm best for it. 138 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:04.980 And there's a little moment where Sarah and Harry are there and 139 00:06:04.980 --> 00:06:06.839 they're just speculating about where they could be. 140 00:06:06.899 --> 00:06:08.339 They could be anywhere in the world. 141 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.980 They could be in a forest in sort of eastern Europe or something. 142 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:11.699 Sussex. 143 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:13.439 Yeah, so small, aren't they? 144 00:06:13.500 --> 00:06:14.699 But that's kind of nice. 145 00:06:14.819 --> 00:06:15.839 I think it is a good scene. 146 00:06:15.899 --> 00:06:18.540 And I think it does, it looks all right on the DVD, doesn't it? 147 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:19.439 Yeah, I had to fix it. 148 00:06:19.500 --> 00:06:20.699 The colourisation is so good. 149 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:25.680 I believe it was colorised by Stuart Humphreys of Babel Colour, who 150 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.540 also worked on the Mind of Evil episode one colourisation, which 151 00:06:30.540 --> 00:06:32.399 yeah, exactly for which we adore him. 152 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.699 But it's... 153 00:06:35.699 --> 00:06:38.879 It's one of those things where you can see why it was cut out. 154 00:06:38.939 --> 00:06:41.279 It doesn't move the plot anywhere at all. 155 00:06:41.339 --> 00:06:44.939 It's just this charming character moment between these 3 people. 156 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:49.139 And I think had terror of the Zigons not been held back because it 157 00:06:49.139 --> 00:06:52.139 was meant to go out immediately after Avenge of the Zigons. 158 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:55.139 I think they might have kept it if it had been the following week 159 00:06:55.139 --> 00:06:58.500 because as you were saying through most of last season, Nathan 160 00:06:58.500 --> 00:07:02.879 yeah, our 3 heroes go through some really horrible stuff. in that 161 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:07.019 arc of stories from arc and space through to Revenge of the 162 00:07:07.019 --> 00:07:07.500 Cybermen. 163 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.500 So to have them land and have this little scene where they're 164 00:07:10.500 --> 00:07:11.339 going, oh, where are we? 165 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:12.360 I'm dressed for Scotland. 166 00:07:12.420 --> 00:07:13.319 So we're in Scotland. 167 00:07:13.379 --> 00:07:18.240 It's a fun little moment, but yeah, we don't, it only adds putting 168 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:18.779 it back in. 169 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:22.800 We don't, we aren't bereft because the rest of the story is so 170 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:23.579 amazing anyway. 171 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.519 Although as a young viewer, I really loved that they just came 172 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.639 traipse and trolling out of the woods, cough, cough, together 173 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:30.839 wearing each other's clothes. 174 00:07:30.899 --> 00:07:33.000 It set up a great... 175 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:33.959 Yeah, yeah. 176 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.060 And it's also that they might have been, they might indeed have 177 00:07:36.060 --> 00:07:37.379 been a whole other adventure. 178 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.199 We promulgated and probably used that word because we were those 179 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.720 sorts of children in the playground the next day. 180 00:07:42.779 --> 00:07:43.980 Remember that? 181 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:45.000 I was saying, well, what had they been? 182 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:46.259 Perhaps there'd been a whole other adventure. 183 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.240 Do you realise before we move into the story? 184 00:07:48.300 --> 00:07:50.339 Because this is just one of the things that's just too exciting to 185 00:07:50.339 --> 00:07:52.920 not take the scenic route around the banks of the loch. 186 00:07:52.980 --> 00:07:55.500 Do you realise that Sir Peter Scott? 187 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:00.000 Peter Scott was a conservatist, and he was scanning the lock, as 188 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:03.600 he did, so he's something of an eccentric, released a sonar shot 189 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.800 of what looked like a fin, or more technically correct, a fluke of 190 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:09.899 a large sea creature in Loch Ness. 191 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.319 And he immediately had it, and Nathan, you can correct us on our 192 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:19.259 Latin, immediately had it declared Necetarius rhomboopterics, which 193 00:08:19.259 --> 00:08:22.259 as far as I know, means something called Nessie that's got a 194 00:08:22.259 --> 00:08:23.339 rhomboid fin. 195 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.620 Yeah, rhombo. 196 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:26.939 But then he did... 197 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.939 Yeah, well, we certainly never got to that bit. so it could be 198 00:08:29.939 --> 00:08:31.439 declared an endangered species. 199 00:08:31.500 --> 00:08:33.779 And it was a wee little thing. 200 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.080 It wasn't the size of, you know, because I don't honestly think 201 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:40.080 that the garrison would be able to flaunt it about, not 202 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:40.919 necessarily a bit too big. 203 00:08:40.980 --> 00:08:43.259 This is Loctes isn't that... 204 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:44.820 Well yes, but it's not it's not that deep. 205 00:08:44.940 --> 00:08:46.259 It's a bit too stop motion. 206 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.460 A bit too stop motion. 207 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.740 But yeah, all these really lovely, interesting things were going 208 00:08:49.740 --> 00:08:53.340 on, and then, of course, this is the perfect setting, and of 209 00:08:53.340 --> 00:08:55.200 course, you haven't mentioned Santa for yet, and we haven't had a 210 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:55.440 drink. 211 00:08:55.500 --> 00:08:57.659 This is the winter season. 212 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:01.799 And as a boy, we had a very cold winter in Sydney that year, and I 213 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.860 remember running home from school through fields, not unlike. 214 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:06.779 Yes, we had fields even in freshwater. 215 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:11.820 And I'm thinking about the coldness of this season, and this 216 00:09:11.820 --> 00:09:15.240 particular story, and it really bit in, and it won it, on that 217 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:19.740 under level, and Santa has talked about autumnal themes, being 218 00:09:19.740 --> 00:09:22.799 about the internal dialogue, and being about the world inside 219 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.379 which is why you don't get a lot of great horror stories set on 220 00:09:25.379 --> 00:09:29.580 beaches. tends to be about woodsy, colder places where the mind 221 00:09:29.580 --> 00:09:30.840 turns in on itself. 222 00:09:30.899 --> 00:09:35.399 This story also does a lovely thing of the silky folk, which do 223 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:37.620 sound like something Nathan would have just bought as a pet. 224 00:09:37.740 --> 00:09:42.120 But these were the seals in Scottish Legend, the seals who would 225 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:46.320 occasionally assume human form, very much like the English fairy 226 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:46.740 stories. 227 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.139 And the fairy folk were not the little things dancing in the 228 00:09:49.139 --> 00:09:49.919 bottom of your garden. 229 00:09:49.980 --> 00:09:53.100 They swapped human children for their own folk who were 230 00:09:53.100 --> 00:09:56.279 changelings so that they could move about in the real world as 231 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:56.519 well. 232 00:09:56.580 --> 00:09:59.460 It's a perfect Zigon story. quite beautiful. 233 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:03.000 Oh, Sarah can't read mediaeval Latin in this one. 234 00:10:03.059 --> 00:10:04.080 Did you notice it in the library? 235 00:10:04.139 --> 00:10:05.460 pretty disappointed, actually. 236 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.320 But she can in the ghosts event space. 237 00:10:07.379 --> 00:10:08.700 Did you all go away and listen to that? 238 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:10.500 Obviously boned up on it. 239 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:11.879 That can't be right. 240 00:10:11.940 --> 00:10:12.899 That's set beforehand. 241 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:15.960 Why would anybody listen to the Ghost of Inspace? 242 00:10:16.019 --> 00:10:18.480 It's almost like someone on this podcast recommend it? 243 00:10:19.259 --> 00:10:21.659 There are a lot of Scottish things here. 244 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:22.860 You know what I mean? 245 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:24.000 So we recreate it. 246 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:25.200 I'm wearing tartan as we speak. 247 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:25.980 So it's weird. 248 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:31.139 We recreate the opening moment of the sea devils, don't we? 249 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.539 Only with a with a oil rig. 250 00:10:33.659 --> 00:10:38.100 And infinitely superior music from the wonderful pen and 251 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:40.740 conductor's baton of Jeffrey Burton. 252 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:42.960 Thanks for signing Jeffrey Bergen, because that's the reason this 253 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:43.799 story ultimately works. 254 00:10:43.860 --> 00:10:46.440 The costumes are beautiful, but the music is everything. and look 255 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:47.399 at seeds of doom again. 256 00:10:47.460 --> 00:10:50.159 Canfield and Bergen are a winning combo, aren't they? 257 00:10:50.220 --> 00:10:52.379 And we have to thank for this. 258 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:57.299 The old 1960s misunderstanding between Dougie Canfield and Dudley 259 00:10:57.299 --> 00:11:00.179 Simpson, meaning Canfield never wanted to work with Simpson again 260 00:11:00.179 --> 00:11:00.960 and thus didn't. 261 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:02.340 They realised there was a reason. 262 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.080 I thought he just wanted to put his own texture. 263 00:11:04.139 --> 00:11:04.860 No, no. 264 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.440 Apparently, apparently there was a dinner party after Planet of 265 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.840 Giants because that was the thing that the 2 of them worked on. 266 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.259 I believe they did also work on the crusade as well. 267 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:14.039 Oh okay. 268 00:11:14.100 --> 00:11:19.740 But they had a dinner party and I think Canfield asked Simpson how 269 00:11:19.740 --> 00:11:21.000 much he how much money he made. 270 00:11:21.059 --> 00:11:26.460 I think it was, it was a bit more presumptuous on Campfield's 271 00:11:26.460 --> 00:11:26.759 part. 272 00:11:26.820 --> 00:11:27.419 Apparently. 273 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:29.340 Yes, he did ask Dudley how much do you make? 274 00:11:29.340 --> 00:11:30.600 And Dudley said, oh, I make this much. 275 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.220 But then he asked Sudley, where do you live? 276 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:34.860 And Camfield thought, well, that's a very expensive area of 277 00:11:34.860 --> 00:11:35.340 London. 278 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:40.740 He's either lied to me about his wage or he's come he's come 279 00:11:40.740 --> 00:11:42.600 across the money in some other way and I don't deal with people 280 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:43.500 who are dishonest. 281 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:47.100 And it turned out to be something like Dudley or his wife had 282 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:50.759 inherited the house or inherited some money to buy the house. 283 00:11:50.820 --> 00:11:53.759 So, you know, there was nothing untoward going on at all, but for 284 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:57.360 some reason that really got Dougie's backup, possibly because, you 285 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:59.879 know, he was a very straight down the line, ex-military man. 286 00:11:59.940 --> 00:12:03.179 Yeah, but I think also part of Canfield's brilliance and his 287 00:12:03.179 --> 00:12:05.100 curmudgeonliness is his very short temper. 288 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.460 So that's why he was able to cut through the dross very quickly 289 00:12:08.460 --> 00:12:09.659 and get things done. 290 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:12.899 It also meant he his decision was the only one where there was any 291 00:12:12.899 --> 00:12:16.860 truth, which also made perhaps not the easiest of guests to deal 292 00:12:16.860 --> 00:12:17.460 with. 293 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:18.899 But he and Tom got on very well. 294 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:20.519 I mean, quite similar. 295 00:12:20.580 --> 00:12:22.320 Tom is very... 296 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.539 Yeah, but that later on, that might not have been the way when 297 00:12:24.539 --> 00:12:27.240 there was no Philip Hinchcliffe to keep Tom in his box. 298 00:12:27.299 --> 00:12:27.960 Yes. 299 00:12:28.019 --> 00:12:29.940 As we'll get to later on. 300 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.299 I really can't go past the Duke of Fogel and Broton. 301 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.460 And I honestly believe, Nathan, you were saying earlier, that 302 00:12:35.460 --> 00:12:39.059 there is no Duke of Fogel. just broton mincing about all the time 303 00:12:39.059 --> 00:12:40.559 having a lovely time. 304 00:12:40.620 --> 00:12:41.519 Right, from the very beginning. 305 00:12:41.580 --> 00:12:46.080 It's very clear that it's because remember Angus McCrannold. 306 00:12:46.139 --> 00:12:47.639 I'm not going to do that again. 307 00:12:48.299 --> 00:12:54.840 Who is the terribly camp landlord of the Fox Inn, isn't it? 308 00:12:54.899 --> 00:12:58.200 Hello, fox. that so much. 309 00:12:58.259 --> 00:12:59.700 That's been shot. 310 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.039 They really should they should have really had their own little 311 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:03.480 spinoff series, shouldn't they? 312 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:08.639 with Broton and Angus running and the cable in the fox in, running 313 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:13.019 their own painting and decorating business from polishing up the 314 00:13:13.019 --> 00:13:13.440 eyeballs. 315 00:13:13.500 --> 00:13:16.620 Despite the fact he doesn't have a boyfriend in this one, like he 316 00:13:16.620 --> 00:13:20.100 did on the Ice Warriors, he's still as campus ever, and he's 317 00:13:20.100 --> 00:13:20.279 wonderful. 318 00:13:20.340 --> 00:13:23.639 Campus Garrison lactic outlets, yeah. 319 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:25.259 Oh, more of that light. 320 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:30.600 Yeah, because he's already delivered the stag's head, the bugged 321 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.220 stag's head to the fox. 322 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:33.179 Yes. 323 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.539 So he's been he has been brought on for a long time. 324 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.659 But he is just hilarious. 325 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.059 And, you know, like, why does he pick them up in the car? 326 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:44.100 You know, I think he drove up. 327 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:46.980 He comes over to pick a fight with Mr. Huckleham to deliver some 328 00:13:46.980 --> 00:13:48.840 valuable exposition, I think. 329 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:53.519 But otherwise, you know, he's just gone. 330 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:54.539 In the shape of a haggis. 331 00:13:55.379 --> 00:13:57.840 And we have a haggis mention. 332 00:13:57.899 --> 00:14:00.059 We even do in the 1st thing. 333 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:04.200 So the 1st thing the guy talks about haggis, he says Disney can 334 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:05.580 instead of doesn't know. 335 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.899 You know, we've got Angus Rennie playing the bagpipes upstairs. 336 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.240 You've got the brigadier in a kilt. 337 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:16.379 You know, it's it's, I mean, it is a kind of ludicrous theme park 338 00:14:16.379 --> 00:14:17.220 version of Scotland. 339 00:14:17.340 --> 00:14:20.399 Well, we've done it to the Welsh, haven't we? 340 00:14:20.460 --> 00:14:20.940 We have. 341 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:23.700 With the Welsh, it was a bit more insulting because... 342 00:14:23.700 --> 00:14:24.840 Nobody respects them anyway. 343 00:14:24.899 --> 00:14:25.860 Well, no. 344 00:14:25.860 --> 00:14:29.759 It's kind of what was coming across. about redheads again, I'm 345 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:30.120 leaving. 346 00:14:30.779 --> 00:14:34.500 I think I think because there were real political concerns and 347 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:36.480 political issues that were addressed in the group. 348 00:14:36.539 --> 00:14:38.580 There certainly were, but there certainly were in Scotland at the 349 00:14:38.580 --> 00:14:39.120 time as well. 350 00:14:39.179 --> 00:14:42.419 The North Sea gas and oil, where they were talking about 351 00:14:42.419 --> 00:14:45.779 separation, just as they have done this year, and it was, and part 352 00:14:45.779 --> 00:14:49.740 of that in the Scottish Parliament was how the dramas and how the 353 00:14:49.740 --> 00:14:54.840 stuff we get on Scottish TV for our children completely dissembles 354 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.539 and makes fun of Scotland, and then this goes out. 355 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:03.240 But I do think it's only very, vaguely political in a way that 356 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:04.799 Green Death wasn't Green Death. 357 00:15:04.860 --> 00:15:07.379 Green Death was very definitely political. 358 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:10.980 The kind of theme parkness of the Scotland isn't quite. not a lot 359 00:15:10.980 --> 00:15:11.940 of politics in history. 360 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.820 Although there is world ecology, just as there was in Green Death 361 00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:15.179 same thing. 362 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:16.139 Yeah, yeah. 363 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.019 And we even get the doctor giving us the environmental moral of 364 00:15:19.019 --> 00:15:22.919 the story in the 1st episode where he chastises the brigadier for 365 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:26.159 calling him back to deal with an emergency oil, an emergency. 366 00:15:26.220 --> 00:15:29.519 You need to stop powering your planet with a mineral slide, but 367 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:30.360 there's your emergency. 368 00:15:30.419 --> 00:15:32.460 Start looking at hydrogen dimension in this one. 369 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:34.080 No, no, he will mention next story. 370 00:15:34.139 --> 00:15:35.340 He'll mention an alternative. 371 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:36.779 Oh, it actually does mention that. 372 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:38.879 I think he mentions hydrogen because that's been in the news this 373 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:41.399 year as well. something that may well be. 374 00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:45.240 And just this morning, I watched the last in the current run of 375 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.779 the new Thunderbirds ago, which featured the Supreme Hadron 376 00:15:48.779 --> 00:15:49.320 Collider. 377 00:15:49.379 --> 00:15:52.860 Wow, it's gone from large... 378 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.960 Isn't that just Diana Ross's new readers? 379 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.700 Diana Ross is a nuclear physicist. 380 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:01.320 Danger in Cincinnati. 381 00:16:01.379 --> 00:16:03.539 It'll be a chain reaction if you don't watch it. 382 00:16:04.740 --> 00:16:10.679 Oh, usually we only get this far off topic if there's nothing to 383 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.080 talk about in the story, but I think this story just has so much. 384 00:16:13.139 --> 00:16:14.399 It's so big, this is the thing. 385 00:16:14.460 --> 00:16:15.899 Yeah, well, let's let's go back. 386 00:16:15.899 --> 00:16:17.639 Let's do your checklist. 387 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:19.740 I don't have a checklist this time. 388 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.139 It's not Terry Nation then. one coming up. 389 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.799 But let's look, because we do get hints of the aliens already. 390 00:16:25.860 --> 00:16:29.700 So we don't we get the normal F1 end of episode one alien reveal 391 00:16:29.700 --> 00:16:31.559 where we actually see... 392 00:16:31.620 --> 00:16:33.600 Yeah, and for once it's incredibly effective. 393 00:16:33.659 --> 00:16:36.120 I think it's more effective than when the Daleks turn up because 394 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:37.919 we don't know what a Zygon looks like. 395 00:16:37.980 --> 00:16:40.019 We've had a few hints and grabs in there. 396 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:43.860 And also it's attacking Sarah, so there's a cliffhanger moment. 397 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:49.379 It zooms in on its face, the face is for human expectations, the 398 00:16:49.379 --> 00:16:51.419 face is underdeveloped and malformed. 399 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:55.379 It's an incredibly effective cliffhanger using the old Doctor Who 400 00:16:55.379 --> 00:16:59.220 trope of let's reveal the monster at the end of episode one. 401 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:00.600 It is really effective. 402 00:17:00.659 --> 00:17:02.820 And of course, it's beautifully shot by Dougie Campfield. 403 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.180 But in the lead up to that, we actually see that the inn is being 404 00:17:06.180 --> 00:17:10.500 bugged and so you get a sort of stag head eye view of what's going 405 00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:12.059 on in the Fox Inn. 406 00:17:12.059 --> 00:17:15.059 And you get the hands manipulating the controls. 407 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.359 And I have a Doctor Who club at school and we watch this a little 408 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:23.039 while ago and the kids just roared with laughter at these rubbery 409 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:25.799 hands manipulating the controls. 410 00:17:25.859 --> 00:17:28.619 It really is just incredibly rude looking. 411 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.900 How did they respond when Tom got to it? 412 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.779 There's nothing of it that's real love right there. 413 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:34.859 Yeah, yeah. 414 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:35.819 And you know what? 415 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.420 It looks like when he's performing that scene that Tom actually 416 00:17:39.420 --> 00:17:42.420 hasn't seen the console before because the smiley gets through his 417 00:17:42.420 --> 00:17:42.599 face. 418 00:17:42.660 --> 00:17:43.740 I don't think that's the doctor. 419 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.200 That's Tom's only going, hold on. 420 00:17:46.259 --> 00:17:48.000 This looks like, okay, keep it together. 421 00:17:48.059 --> 00:17:48.900 I'll keep it. 422 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:50.759 Oh, I'm having so much fun. 423 00:17:52.259 --> 00:17:55.259 I'm never ordering pizza marinara. 424 00:17:55.740 --> 00:17:58.259 And of course, that end of episode one. 425 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:01.140 Cliffhanger takes place in the hospital because Harry has been 426 00:18:01.140 --> 00:18:05.819 shot because by Nurse Ratchet from one flew over the cooker's nest 427 00:18:05.819 --> 00:18:08.519 with a Scottish accent, same difference. 428 00:18:08.579 --> 00:18:10.799 It's the same part, isn't it? 429 00:18:10.859 --> 00:18:11.460 Just the same actress. 430 00:18:11.579 --> 00:18:15.779 And we don't quite know why he's he turns up. pretty brutal 431 00:18:15.779 --> 00:18:16.079 though. 432 00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:19.440 In fact, there's some really beautiful direction there because the 433 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.440 1st guy who was complaining about the haggis on the oil rig 434 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:27.000 stumbles up the beach, and it's just absolutely beautifully shot. 435 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.059 Because it's directly lifted from the Avengers story, the town of 436 00:18:30.059 --> 00:18:30.660 the return. 437 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:31.380 No return. 438 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:32.519 I was just gonna say that, yeah. 439 00:18:32.579 --> 00:18:34.619 Does Campfield ever direct for the Avengers? 440 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:36.359 Yes, he does. you sure he does? 441 00:18:36.420 --> 00:18:39.900 I thought he did on the manager of Surrey Green. 442 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:41.579 That's not that's not Duggee. 443 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.000 Yes, that does look a gorgeous thing when they come up from the 444 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:45.299 beach. 445 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.640 But that's also been in other films, lots of World War 2 films 446 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:51.180 where there was an obsession about spies coming in from the watery 447 00:18:51.180 --> 00:18:52.680 deeps, if not the cold. 448 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.220 It's just beautifully lit, like spectacularly lit. 449 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:00.059 That guy gets shot dead and then Harry gets shot and he gets 450 00:19:00.059 --> 00:19:05.819 captured by the fabulously scary sister lamb. 451 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:07.259 And then he could... 452 00:19:07.259 --> 00:19:09.000 I think she's scarier than Nurse Raction. 453 00:19:09.059 --> 00:19:11.640 I think she's the scariest thing to have ever been in Doctor Who 454 00:19:11.700 --> 00:19:13.440 at any time before or since. 455 00:19:13.500 --> 00:19:15.119 She's really great in episode. 456 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:16.140 I think it's episode three. 457 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.660 That bed pan would be full of ice cubes. 458 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:20.400 You just know it. 459 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:23.700 Yes, the sheep. 460 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.660 I'm not changing our sheets again, Mr. Sullivan. 461 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:29.819 You've been a very nut tipper. 462 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:32.160 Oh, you do that so well. 463 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:35.279 I don't think that would have been his response. 464 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:41.400 Harry gets taken down to the spaceship and given just the most 465 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:43.500 incredible guide and tour, I hope. 466 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:44.160 Yes, yes. 467 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:45.240 Even if I jumping. 468 00:19:45.299 --> 00:19:47.700 We don't, we don't talk and get visitors in here. 469 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:49.440 Don't forget exchange, then here. 470 00:19:49.500 --> 00:19:52.619 Yeah, so everything shows him how to change people into other 471 00:19:52.619 --> 00:19:56.759 people, shows him the scarrison, explains about the lactic fluid. 472 00:19:56.819 --> 00:19:59.640 So do you like what we've done with the war? 473 00:19:59.700 --> 00:20:02.579 I think the lactic fluid is worth mentioning. 474 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:04.680 I think yes, a bit too much. 475 00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:06.720 What did they live on before they got to? 476 00:20:06.779 --> 00:20:09.599 Because you know it was a little embryo when they like it. were 477 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:10.079 they living on? 478 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:11.460 Well, I think they probably had 600. 479 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:12.720 Is it like Yakut? 480 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.480 of lactic fluid or fridge? 481 00:20:15.539 --> 00:20:16.859 Or powdered... 482 00:20:16.859 --> 00:20:19.680 Powdered... 483 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:21.900 Powdered scarrots and lactic fluids. 484 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.380 But he does mention that I'd like to think it's bonded polycarbide 485 00:20:25.380 --> 00:20:27.660 armour, but we don't actually know other than that's not the 486 00:20:27.660 --> 00:20:29.579 Scarrison's native form. 487 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:31.200 It's been armoured as a weapon. 488 00:20:31.259 --> 00:20:34.740 So I'd like to think it's just a lovely, big, never-ending story 489 00:20:34.740 --> 00:20:36.720 dragon puppy type of affair. 490 00:20:36.779 --> 00:20:40.980 So I'm going to put something in the show notes, which is from the 491 00:20:40.980 --> 00:20:44.099 TARDIS index file, from BBC America. 492 00:20:44.099 --> 00:20:48.059 And if you look up the Zygons, it actually shows a picture of the 493 00:20:48.059 --> 00:20:52.200 Scarrison, sort of coming along a conveyor belt and being milked 494 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.359 into milk. the galaxy star. 495 00:20:57.420 --> 00:20:58.559 Stop motion, though. 496 00:20:58.619 --> 00:21:01.980 No, no, it's like that animation from hitchhiker, it's because 497 00:21:01.980 --> 00:21:03.779 it's like a... 498 00:21:03.779 --> 00:21:04.619 It's really great. 499 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:06.960 So I will put that in the show. 500 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:10.559 I will also say that in the later big finish story. 501 00:21:10.619 --> 00:21:15.119 The Zigon who fell to Earth, there is another Scarrison. and Tim 502 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:20.400 Brooke Taylor, it plays his Zigon called Mims, and it's his job to 503 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:21.539 milk the Scarrison. 504 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:22.500 Brilliant. 505 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:24.000 Now, is there only a truth in that? 506 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:24.779 The mink gloves. 507 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:25.980 You've got to be terribly careful. 508 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.420 Is there any truth in the room, Brendan, that you used Scarrison 509 00:21:30.420 --> 00:21:34.440 lactic fluid in the creation of this month's baked good? 510 00:21:34.500 --> 00:21:35.579 I did indeed. 511 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:36.359 I did indeed. 512 00:21:36.420 --> 00:21:41.819 Dear listener, you will find on the website the recipe for Zygon 513 00:21:41.819 --> 00:21:43.079 carrot and apple muffins. 514 00:21:43.140 --> 00:21:46.500 It really did look like you were heaving into a zybron 515 00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:47.519 breastplate. 516 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:51.359 Extraordinary thing and quite beautiful and yes, I can recommend 517 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:51.660 them. 518 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:53.279 Highly, okay. 519 00:21:54.420 --> 00:21:57.839 I'm trying to work out what the Zygon Stinger. 520 00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:01.079 You know, these costumes were even better, but they are very glam 521 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:05.339 rock, you know, pedal pushing little things, and they're gorgeous 522 00:22:05.339 --> 00:22:11.759 little Capri, latex, skinny tight jeans and cork on my high plum 523 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:12.240 salts. 524 00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:14.099 But then with the huge gorgeous head. 525 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:16.740 But no, they, when they, they were going to light up the 526 00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:19.440 cerebellum and the chest cavity was going to light up when they 527 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:20.519 used their stinger. 528 00:22:20.579 --> 00:22:23.759 And it's such a shame we never got to see their stinger, partly A 529 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.059 because it caused too much heating up and B, they found the effect 530 00:22:27.059 --> 00:22:28.680 to be unworkable. 531 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.960 So why was it unworkable? 532 00:22:31.019 --> 00:22:33.779 Because the stinger looked like a penis. 533 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:37.559 Well, all they had to stop them in cursing. 534 00:22:37.619 --> 00:22:40.079 All they had to do was wrap it in a clue. 535 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:43.740 Because everyone knows that if you have a monster that looks like 536 00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:47.400 a penis, just wrap it in a cloak and now it looks like a penis in 537 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:47.759 a cloak. 538 00:22:47.819 --> 00:22:48.660 Problem solved. 539 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.380 In amongst all this exposition we get, of course, we get the 540 00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:53.460 Trilantic activator. 541 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:55.680 And while we're, you know, pitching at fair. 542 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.019 Is that the thing that sucks under, that's like a champagne cook 543 00:22:58.019 --> 00:23:00.420 that sucks onto your wrist and can crawl around the table like a 544 00:23:00.420 --> 00:23:01.380 Romy chest? 545 00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:01.740 It does. 546 00:23:01.740 --> 00:23:04.859 So what they've been doing is somehow they've been attaching it to 547 00:23:04.859 --> 00:23:06.720 oil rigs where it emits... 548 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:07.859 It emits. 549 00:23:07.859 --> 00:23:09.599 Wow, amazing signal. 550 00:23:09.660 --> 00:23:13.559 And so the scarrison comes along and humps the leg of the oil 551 00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:15.119 brick until you... 552 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:16.200 And choose it to death. 553 00:23:16.259 --> 00:23:18.480 I don't think I want to go on a date with this car. 554 00:23:18.539 --> 00:23:22.740 Well, yeah, aquatic creatures have some very strange mating 555 00:23:22.740 --> 00:23:23.160 rituals. 556 00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:27.660 There is a type of octopus, for instance. where the male tears off 557 00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:33.240 its penis and hurls it at the female who inseminates herself. 558 00:23:33.299 --> 00:23:35.160 I think we saw that in the state of origin. 559 00:23:36.660 --> 00:23:39.180 I believe that I believe that was the cleanest, most scientific 560 00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:40.079 way I could put it. 561 00:23:40.140 --> 00:23:41.579 Poor bloody Scarrison, though. 562 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:44.700 It's the only one on earth, unless we take into account the one 563 00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:46.019 that Big Finish later puts in. 564 00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:49.200 And every time it thinks it's going for a day, it ends up with 565 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:50.759 this anorexic oil rig. 566 00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:51.839 You know. 567 00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:54.480 It just gets covered in oil afterwards. 568 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.740 A date with an oleaginous Gwyneth Paltrow. 569 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:00.359 I'm never going to turn out well, is it? 570 00:24:00.420 --> 00:24:04.740 I have a terrible soft spot for this garrison because just like 571 00:24:04.740 --> 00:24:08.400 those puppets in the late sort of per Tui era, they all seem to be 572 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.579 made out of sort of fox heads or terrier heads or something. 573 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:13.140 This one has real teeth, doesn't it? 574 00:24:13.140 --> 00:24:15.960 It has real teeth. real sort of crazy rolling eyes and it just 575 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.539 looks like my dog Gracie. 576 00:24:18.660 --> 00:24:21.599 And her podcasting debut on that trusty doctor episode. 577 00:24:21.660 --> 00:24:22.799 Yes, yes. 578 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:24.720 It is like a little stop motion grace. 579 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.599 It's a shaved Mr. Snuffleopagus, isn't it, really? 580 00:24:27.660 --> 00:24:28.559 The way it walks as well. 581 00:24:28.619 --> 00:24:32.579 Yeah, see a lot of people kind of look at that and say, oh, no one 582 00:24:32.579 --> 00:24:33.240 makes fun of that. 583 00:24:33.299 --> 00:24:35.940 Why does everyone make fun of the dinosaurs in invasion of 584 00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:36.480 dinosaurs? 585 00:24:36.539 --> 00:24:39.660 And one, people do make fun of the scarous animal stop motion. 586 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:42.779 But I think the reason it doesn't come in for as much criticism 587 00:24:42.779 --> 00:24:43.140 is. 588 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:46.440 They learned from the mistake of the dinosaurs. 589 00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:49.079 And the dinosaurs were pretty poor puppets, whereas this is 590 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:50.460 halfway decent stop motion. 591 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:52.500 It's actually very good stock motion. 592 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.660 They just didn't have the time to do stop motion properly. 593 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:56.339 It's a really nicely done effect. 594 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.000 You know, if you don't have Harry Hausen, it's bloody good. 595 00:25:00.059 --> 00:25:03.299 In episode 4, it is just a puppet and they throw the last 596 00:25:03.299 --> 00:25:07.380 Trilantic activator into its mouth. and it chews really sort of 597 00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:08.039 dismally. 598 00:25:08.099 --> 00:25:12.180 And you really do expect Tim Brooke Taylor to come down the Grand 599 00:25:12.180 --> 00:25:16.500 Garden of Bilotti in a weather balloon dressed as squid. 600 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:20.579 Now I want to see the scarrison versus kitten. 601 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.039 Rod and I have been making our way through the Godzillas again on 602 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:23.640 Blu-ray. 603 00:25:23.700 --> 00:25:25.259 So, yeah, there's a fight I want to see. 604 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:26.519 That be amazing. 605 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.059 Atop the post office tower. 606 00:25:30.059 --> 00:25:31.920 Botan doing voiceovers. 607 00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:34.680 In fact, that scene, and we're kind of leaping ahead to episode 4 608 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:35.279 here a bit. 609 00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:37.980 That scene where it appears in the World Energy Conference. 610 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.980 It appears in front of the photograph of just the most dismal 611 00:25:40.980 --> 00:25:44.819 London office buildings by Thames in Banquet, and it just looks 612 00:25:44.819 --> 00:25:49.859 like just every aspect of the scene looks so appallingly bad, and 613 00:25:49.859 --> 00:25:51.779 I just couldn't stop smiling. 614 00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:53.460 It was like the dinosaurs. 615 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:55.140 Hello, Sue Tech. 616 00:25:55.740 --> 00:25:59.460 No, your story's not from... 617 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:03.359 It was like the dinosaurs in invasion of the dinosaurs. 618 00:26:03.420 --> 00:26:04.440 I just love that so much. 619 00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:06.779 I don't care that it's a terrible effect at all. 620 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:08.819 Neither does Su Tech. that's right. 621 00:26:09.059 --> 00:26:13.200 And floating above the moor now, it sounds like someone's coming 622 00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:14.279 in and they're bubble. 623 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.700 I thought it was just the telly playing up again. 624 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.859 Why have we got it held up from the ceiling like that? 625 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.380 You can never adjust the horizontal mould. 626 00:26:22.619 --> 00:26:24.299 Hi guys. 627 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:29.099 And so at the end of this story, we say goodbye to Harry was Harry 628 00:26:29.099 --> 00:26:34.140 Sullivan's potential fulfilled, or was it the right time for the 629 00:26:34.140 --> 00:26:36.240 character to be written out? 630 00:26:36.299 --> 00:26:39.839 My space time bubble seems to be passing through some sort of 631 00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:40.619 strange matter. 632 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.079 Maybe antimatter. 633 00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:46.559 I guess I'll see you guys on the other side. 634 00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:48.180 Evil Harry. 635 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:49.380 Evil Harry. 636 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:50.819 Yeah, we get this one. 637 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.380 What of Demi Harry's birthday last year? 638 00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:53.700 Really? 639 00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:55.319 She looks really good in this one, didn't she? 640 00:26:55.980 --> 00:26:59.039 Ian Marta getting a chance to be evil. 641 00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:02.039 This is also Ian Martin's last story as a regular. 642 00:27:02.099 --> 00:27:05.819 And I think this story is the biggest one that proves we could 643 00:27:05.819 --> 00:27:07.200 have easily kept him on. 644 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.400 I know he was brought in to be the muscle, but because of his 645 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.599 quality as an actor, He really rises above that and we could, and 646 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:16.200 we could have kept him. 647 00:27:16.259 --> 00:27:19.380 And the rapport with Tom as well as with Liz, it's a perfect 648 00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:20.339 triumvirate. 649 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.140 Normally threesomes on screen. 650 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.799 Don't tend to work out that well, whether it's why, again, the 651 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.019 Avengers, you just have a man and a woman in most of those 652 00:27:28.019 --> 00:27:28.440 series. 653 00:27:28.500 --> 00:27:31.559 But the 3 part, 300 game is perfect. 654 00:27:31.619 --> 00:27:34.500 You know who was really pushing to keep him and wanted him to stay 655 00:27:34.500 --> 00:27:35.279 in the series. 656 00:27:35.339 --> 00:27:36.359 Douglas Canfield. 657 00:27:36.420 --> 00:27:38.039 And do you know who kept insisting? 658 00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:40.019 Not once, not twice, but exactly. 659 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.740 Three knocks. 3 times he had the chance. 3 times he said, no, no 660 00:27:43.740 --> 00:27:43.920 no. 661 00:27:43.980 --> 00:27:47.339 And he's the 1st one to come now and say, I really wish we'd kept 662 00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:47.880 him on. 663 00:27:47.940 --> 00:27:50.880 Don't you love, right at the end, and sorry to jump forward, but 664 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:54.299 it's much like we do on this with this story as well. 665 00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.799 So yes, they've seen the monster off at World ecology HQ or, you 666 00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:00.960 know, BBC television centre beside the Thames. 667 00:28:01.019 --> 00:28:04.500 Isn't it the same point of focus that Janet Fielding finally says 668 00:28:04.500 --> 00:28:09.240 you can all bugger off at the end of resurrection, resuscitation 669 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:10.740 genuflection. 670 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:11.759 No, it is a different location. 671 00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:14.099 It just feels the same gray, miserable 70s. 672 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.579 We forget how miserable 70s London was, but watch Doctor Who. 673 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.779 And then they all hot footed up on the train, no less, because we 674 00:28:21.779 --> 00:28:24.599 know what a unit budget is just to see the doctor off in 675 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:25.140 Scotland. 676 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.700 Okay, the Duke of Fogel's got to go home. 677 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.619 Although somehow, where's he being all this time? 678 00:28:28.859 --> 00:28:32.700 But the brigadier and Harry and Sarah all go up with the doctor 679 00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:36.000 just I suppose just to see the doctor off because the TARDIS is up 680 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:36.180 there. 681 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.960 At what point does Harry decide there's no way I'm ever going back 682 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:40.380 again? 683 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:41.880 Is it one she's got his old clover on? 684 00:28:41.940 --> 00:28:43.500 So I'm never going back. 685 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:44.880 Does he wear his? 686 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:45.660 Yeah, yeah, he's lucky. 687 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:46.559 He's back in full dress. 688 00:28:46.619 --> 00:28:47.940 He's back in his full drag. 689 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.740 This is no doctor. be catching the train. 690 00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.140 And I just think that's such a shame. 691 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.180 If the brig, because the brig was offered as well. 692 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.059 If the brig and Harry had stuck around, they soon would have made 693 00:28:57.059 --> 00:28:59.940 mincemeat out of his old Su Tech, wouldn't they? 694 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.200 It's only been one episode long. 695 00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:04.500 The brigadier went and got other work, didn't he? 696 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.799 He thought that he was pretty much over because remember this is 697 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.779 the last story of season 12, really. 698 00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:10.500 That's right. 699 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.119 So this is his 2nd story of the year. like he's been doing the 700 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:15.900 last couple of times. 701 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.619 He's been doing that since sort of season 9 where unit stories top 702 00:29:19.619 --> 00:29:20.460 and tail the thing. 703 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:25.500 I still think that it's strange that Sarah decides to get back in 704 00:29:25.500 --> 00:29:28.680 the Tartar after the horrendous time that she's had in season 12 705 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:29.940 not making a lot of sense. 706 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.460 But she clearly loves the doctor and that's it. 707 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.299 You know, and he looks a bit forlorn when she says that she's not 708 00:29:36.299 --> 00:29:38.519 going to go with him. 709 00:29:38.579 --> 00:29:40.859 And so, you know, she decides to do that. 710 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:46.140 I also think this is a much better story for Sarah than the last 711 00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:46.559 three. 712 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:48.359 She's a lot more proactive. 713 00:29:48.420 --> 00:29:49.680 She gets a lot more to do. 714 00:29:49.740 --> 00:29:52.500 She gets a few heroic moments as well. 715 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.019 I think it's just a bit less horrendous too. 716 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.599 I think that the present-day earth unit thing. 717 00:29:57.660 --> 00:30:01.140 I don't know whether Holmes is sort of pulling back. 718 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.819 There's fewer Nazis in it. 719 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.180 You know, there's less torture. you know, like it's just generally 720 00:30:06.180 --> 00:30:08.279 a little bit more fun than what we've been having. 721 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:09.180 Yeah. 722 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:13.019 The thing I really, really love about Sarah in this story. 723 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.240 And I only noticed it the last time I watched it. 724 00:30:15.299 --> 00:30:23.759 When Evil Harry turns up and takes the Trilantic activator... 725 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:28.200 When Evil Harry takes up and turns up and takes the Trilantic 726 00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:32.579 activator and Sarah goes after him, it's Sarah leading Sergeant 727 00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:33.660 Benton and the unit troops. 728 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:34.920 I love that scene. 729 00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:36.240 Yeah, come on, and they run after it. 730 00:30:36.299 --> 00:30:37.140 Yeah, exactly. 731 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.960 It's like that scene in the new series where Eccleston is facing 732 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:43.259 down all the army blokes and they hear a scream and he's like 733 00:30:43.259 --> 00:30:46.140 defence patent, tell them, move, move, move, and they all fall in 734 00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:46.440 behind. 735 00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:51.000 They all fall in behind Sarah, which is amazing and it's shot so 736 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.019 well by Campfield as well. 737 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.460 Everyone's running towards the camera. 738 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:54.180 It's comic book. 739 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.720 It's dynamic, but it's also restrengthening Sarah's character 740 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.359 after she has been poorly treated the last few stories. 741 00:31:00.420 --> 00:31:03.839 Well, thank goodness that will never happen again. 742 00:31:03.900 --> 00:31:07.079 I actually think Harry's pretty sidelined here apart from getting 743 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.920 to be evil, Harry, because he is shot in episode one and he really 744 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:12.660 only rejoins them in episode four. 745 00:31:12.779 --> 00:31:15.539 And, you know, I was thinking, that's never happened to a Doctor 746 00:31:15.539 --> 00:31:19.920 Who companion before, but it's happened in a Camfield story, it 747 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.119 happened to Jamie. 748 00:31:21.180 --> 00:31:23.039 Jamie gets shot at the end of the invasion. 749 00:31:23.099 --> 00:31:26.579 Oh, he has like a whole episode off or 2 episodes, or the rest of 750 00:31:26.579 --> 00:31:31.500 the story off. get shot in episode 7 and yeah, only gets shown in 751 00:31:31.500 --> 00:31:36.240 a film sequence of episode 8 because Fraser had a week off. 752 00:31:36.299 --> 00:31:41.160 Canfield kind of likes killing or maiming the regular cast. 753 00:31:41.220 --> 00:31:42.180 I mean look at Inferno. 754 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.599 I do think it is a little bit of a shame not to mention Sandra 755 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.839 again, given that I think that he has the best way of 756 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.420 understanding Broton and Broton's plan. 757 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.619 So Broton's plan is to take over the world by disrupting the world 758 00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:56.640 energy conference. 759 00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:58.500 Stanbridge House. 760 00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.319 And he does that by just being a bond villain. 761 00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:04.440 He thinks that the way to take over the world, he's clearly been 762 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:08.160 watching the Bond films on television during his time under the 763 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.339 loch, and he's decided that the best way of taking over the world 764 00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:16.500 is to be sort of terribly suave, um, to dress very nicely, to look 765 00:32:16.500 --> 00:32:19.980 superficially helpful and charming, but really to have, you know, a 766 00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.700 secret, a secret tunnel in your study that's operated by moving a 767 00:32:23.700 --> 00:32:28.559 book, uh, and then, and then to, uh, you know, deviously uh 768 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.900 arrange to blow up an entire building in London. 769 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.339 So it's a crummy plan. 770 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.299 You know what I mean? 771 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.119 I'd like to think that like Vivian Faye, and we don't see all the 772 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:39.240 other portraits of the previous dukes, but I would like to think 773 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.440 that it's actually just been brought on all these 700 years, which 774 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:44.759 doesn't seem to count for much. 775 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.019 I mean, it's really, well, I sort of built that, you know, that 776 00:32:49.019 --> 00:32:52.859 again, the crummy revolving young Frankenstein bookcase and the 777 00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:53.940 whole, the whole setup. 778 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.680 No, no, it's just been him the whole time. 779 00:32:55.740 --> 00:32:57.960 Why else would he want to announce? 780 00:32:58.019 --> 00:33:03.119 He's so subtle and so, um, so careful and with how they secrete 781 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.700 themselves and yet he wants to look. look, it's a monster and 782 00:33:05.700 --> 00:33:08.640 announce themselves to a world of colleague. a world ecology get 783 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:09.000 together. 784 00:33:09.059 --> 00:33:09.960 He really does. 785 00:33:10.019 --> 00:33:13.440 I think move into his part a bit too much. 786 00:33:13.500 --> 00:33:15.900 He does believe that I think he was actually going to ruin the 787 00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:16.259 world at all. 788 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.019 I think Mike Yates would have been right up there with him, waving 789 00:33:19.019 --> 00:33:20.339 a tentacle from the balcony. 790 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.960 Yeah, I think. 791 00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:24.839 And I think possibly his favourite Bond film would be the spy who 792 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:27.299 loved me because there's lots of aquatic action in it. 793 00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:29.640 Not fun to ball, because it's just silly. 794 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.079 No, not fun. 795 00:33:31.140 --> 00:33:33.539 Stromberg is a kind of terrible bond villain. 796 00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:34.500 Yeah, Stromberg is pretty bad. 797 00:33:34.619 --> 00:33:35.279 Yeah. 798 00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:37.019 He won't even shake tentacles. 799 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.980 And you know, come to think of it, around this time, being that 800 00:33:40.980 --> 00:33:43.500 this story is set in 1980 or 1981. 801 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:49.079 So we just had Moonraker and for your eyes only is hot on its 802 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:49.440 heels. 803 00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:51.720 Why could we be dropping all these bond references? 804 00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:52.140 don't know. 805 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:56.940 I can't begin to say how good this is other than, if you haven't 806 00:33:56.940 --> 00:33:59.640 seen it, Please don't be led by this podcast. 807 00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:00.180 Just watch it. 808 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.339 And if it's been terribly confusing. 809 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.200 You won't be confused by watching it itself. 810 00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:05.700 It makes a lot more sense than we do. 811 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:09.179 And I'm sure Richard will heartily approve of this. 812 00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.480 This is one of the target novels which has been recently reprinted 813 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.639 by BBC books. 814 00:34:14.699 --> 00:34:17.340 Unfortunately, they have modified the original cover, the original 815 00:34:17.340 --> 00:34:20.940 cover, looks rather like a Looney Tunes cartoon with the doctor's 816 00:34:20.940 --> 00:34:23.639 face in the middle of concentric, colourful circles. 817 00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:26.099 Good will. with a huge target. 818 00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:27.420 Right here, somewhere too. 819 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:28.079 Yes. 820 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.659 But yeah, do track it down if you can. 821 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.460 Well, dear listeners, we could go on about this story for at least 822 00:34:44.460 --> 00:34:47.760 another 26 episodes, but that's all the time we have today for 823 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:48.900 Terror of the Zygons. 824 00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:53.340 We will be back next week to discuss what is regarded as one of 825 00:34:53.340 --> 00:34:56.699 the classics of the Hindecliff era, if not Doctor Who overall. 826 00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:58.679 No, we're doing Planet of Evil next week. 827 00:34:58.739 --> 00:35:01.260 Oh, damn, I always get these story orders mixed up. 828 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:02.460 I thought we were on Pyramids of Mars. 829 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.619 No, it is Planet of Evil next week, and you know what that means? 830 00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:05.820 Chest hair. 831 00:35:06.179 --> 00:35:10.199 It's chest hair and it's it's Paul Morrow. 832 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.559 And it's, oh, God, please, please just come back. 833 00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:15.539 Come back, everyone for that. jungles. 834 00:35:15.539 --> 00:35:16.440 It's got jungles. 835 00:35:16.500 --> 00:35:18.840 If nothing else, it's got jungle. 836 00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:19.980 So please do come back. 837 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:24.000 Do check us out on Twitter, FTE podcast, flight through entirety 838 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:26.639 com, and flight through entirety on Facebook and iTunes. 839 00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:28.199 So you know what I'm going to mention at this point. 840 00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:31.019 Please review us on iTunes because I'm incredibly needy. 841 00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.199 But until then, thank you very much for listening and good night. 842 00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:34.980 Good night. 843 00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:35.400 Good night. 844 00:35:35.460 --> 00:35:37.619 I promise we'll get better if you review us, I promise. 845 00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.119 It's fun doing that. 846 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.239 This Amazon, this is our motherfuckers. 847 00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.480 It's recorded on July 5th. 848 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:59.400 The next episode will be released on August 2nd. 849 00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:06.840 Actually, I haven't tested myself yet. 850 00:36:06.900 --> 00:36:07.320 How am I? 851 00:36:07.380 --> 00:36:07.860 How am I? 852 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:08.280 How am I? 853 00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:08.820 I'm okay. 854 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:09.360 All right. 855 00:36:09.420 --> 00:36:10.260 Am I okay? 856 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.880 Um... am I on? 857 00:36:14.940 --> 00:36:16.079 You are not on. 858 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:17.699 Oh, that could have been bad. 859 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:18.780 Okay, go again. 860 00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:20.519 And here we are. 861 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.639 Welcome back to Flight through Entirety, the only Doctor Who 862 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.340 podcast. where I don't get to say this thing. 863 00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.860 Very radio, isn't it? 864 00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:35.880 We shall release the doctor now, commentary on bondfinger.com on 865 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.139 August first.