WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-05-04 at 14:45:21 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.000 Are we still trying to get back to unit HQ? 2 00:00:31.739 --> 00:00:35.820 Hello and welcome back to Flight Through Entirety, the only Doctor 3 00:00:35.820 --> 00:00:39.000 Who podcast coming to you live from the Disorientation Centre. 4 00:00:39.060 --> 00:00:39.659 I'm Brendan. 5 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:40.560 I'm Nathan. 6 00:00:40.619 --> 00:00:44.219 And I'm that thing that Tom Baker pulled out of the console that 7 00:00:44.219 --> 00:00:46.740 he left in the priory because I have no idea where we are. 8 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:47.340 Where are we? 9 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:54.000 We are in some sort of mysterious forest, not designed by Roger 10 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:55.259 Murray Leach on this occasion. 11 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:56.700 It's the Android Invasion. 12 00:00:56.759 --> 00:00:57.539 Oh, it'll be terrible. 13 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.959 So this one's mine as well. 14 00:01:07.019 --> 00:01:10.739 And it's Terry Nation. is your favourite... 15 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:13.079 Bring out the avocado mousse. 16 00:01:13.140 --> 00:01:14.099 I feel somebody's going to die. 17 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:19.319 I always thought that was, you know, special sauce from a Mac. 18 00:01:19.379 --> 00:01:21.000 You didn't use canned avocado. 19 00:01:21.060 --> 00:01:22.379 Was there such a thing? 20 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:27.239 So I had my checklists when we were doing the 70s Harry Nation 21 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:28.079 Dalek story. 22 00:01:28.140 --> 00:01:29.280 I love your checklist. 23 00:01:29.340 --> 00:01:29.939 Can we do one again? 24 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:32.879 I don't really have a checklist here, although there isn't a 25 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:34.560 radiated planet, so I might mention. 26 00:01:34.620 --> 00:01:40.560 I made a few notes of some Terry tropes and he's like, oh, I do 27 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.299 want to say one thing about Terry. 28 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:44.459 And that is that is reliable. 29 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.579 I really liked his stuff in the 1960s. 30 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.659 I, like, a huge fan of Keys of Marinace? 31 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:51.900 Yep. 32 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:55.500 Even we have come round to He's America. 33 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:57.420 Oh, I always like his... 34 00:01:57.420 --> 00:02:02.819 I like his 3 Dalek stories, 4 Dalek stories, which have like... 35 00:02:02.819 --> 00:02:04.200 Well, 3.5, really, all right. 36 00:02:04.260 --> 00:02:06.359 But they have they're different from each other. 37 00:02:06.420 --> 00:02:07.560 They have increasing stakes. 38 00:02:07.620 --> 00:02:11.039 He does, you know, rely on the same tropes, but he can keep he can 39 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:11.879 keep the story going. 40 00:02:11.939 --> 00:02:14.159 I don't feel comfortable without a plague. 41 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.639 We get a plague in this one. 42 00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:21.960 So since Keith of Marinus, this is his only non-dalek story. 43 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.960 And it's the 2nd last story that he will ever write for the 44 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:25.319 program. 45 00:02:25.379 --> 00:02:29.340 He'll come back in 1979 to do Destiny of the Daleks, which is just 46 00:02:29.340 --> 00:02:30.539 you know, terrible. 47 00:02:30.539 --> 00:02:31.680 Dusting off the Daleks, yeah. 48 00:02:31.740 --> 00:02:34.800 But, you know, like I think his stories have been quite enjoyable 49 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:40.080 at times and sometimes sort of terribly camp, but this one's a bit 50 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:41.159 terrible. really, isn't it? 51 00:02:41.219 --> 00:02:43.020 I really like it. 52 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.860 This is another example of something I mentioned last week where 53 00:02:46.860 --> 00:02:50.819 the Holmes Hingecliff stories will often have one NAF episode 54 00:02:50.819 --> 00:02:53.460 followed by 3 really good ones or 3 really good episodes followed 55 00:02:53.460 --> 00:02:54.120 by a NAF one. 56 00:02:54.180 --> 00:02:55.319 I think this one is in the latter. 57 00:02:55.379 --> 00:02:57.180 The last episode really lets it down. 58 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.419 I'm going to start off, um, just by mentioning some terry, you 59 00:03:00.419 --> 00:03:01.379 give us the terry tropes? 60 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:02.879 Surprisingly few. 61 00:03:02.939 --> 00:03:03.840 Okay. 62 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.020 Compared to, say, Planet of the Daleks, or even Genesis of the 63 00:03:07.020 --> 00:03:08.759 Daleks had a lot more terry tropes. 64 00:03:08.819 --> 00:03:12.300 Of course, we've got the plague, the virus, check, check. 65 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:16.860 We have an opening where there is someone acting mysterious who 66 00:03:16.860 --> 00:03:17.580 then dies. 67 00:03:17.580 --> 00:03:19.740 Check. 68 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:25.080 We have an examination of that body kickstarting mystery about the 69 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:25.620 plot. 70 00:03:25.740 --> 00:03:28.979 And we have a companion who twists their ankle. 71 00:03:29.219 --> 00:03:31.680 That's him but tailoring. 72 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.259 Almost twister. 73 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:35.580 So plague and radiation? 74 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:36.719 Oh, yeah. 75 00:03:36.780 --> 00:03:39.599 Sorry, we do have the radiation as well, which is a terry thing. 76 00:03:39.659 --> 00:03:43.860 But he tries to do something a little differently with it because 77 00:03:43.860 --> 00:03:47.400 as opposed to the Daleks or Destiny of the Daleks, where the 78 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:50.819 radiation is debilitating and slowly wears down the crew. 79 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:52.740 Here, it doesn't really do anything. 80 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:53.219 No, no. 81 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.800 The doctor mentions, oh, there is a higher level of radiation. 82 00:03:55.860 --> 00:03:58.500 It's not too much to worry about if we're not in it too long. 83 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.819 It's, I think it's a clue that he overlooks and I think it also 84 00:04:02.819 --> 00:04:05.159 kind of motivates what the kraals are going to do. 85 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.219 So this is Terry Nation. 86 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.400 It's also Barry Letts directing, as you can tell, from the sort of 87 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.460 appalling CSO that gets used, for instance, in a... 88 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:16.259 He loves to see also. too bad. 89 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.379 What about Guy Craford's CSO cockpit? 90 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.180 I'm sorry, that's pretty terrible. 91 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:23.579 That is pretty good of pain. 92 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.459 They could have stuck him against a flat in the cargo hold. 93 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:27.959 For the listener at home. 94 00:04:28.019 --> 00:04:29.759 When is a cockpit not a cockpit? 95 00:04:29.819 --> 00:04:32.339 It's when Barry Lance is directing? 96 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.879 So when Patrick McNee was forced to stand in front of the sign 97 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:40.920 saying cock in during the new Avengers title sequence, which 98 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:42.000 premiered this year. 99 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:44.939 He did do. 100 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:46.439 We're looking forward to the podcast. 101 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:47.639 Put up a screen grab of that. 102 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:53.759 Genesis, I think, is heavily written by Bob Holmes, rewritten by 103 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:54.300 Bob Holmes. 104 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:55.019 How much is that? 105 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.800 Well, I never touched on that because it is the best Dialect story 106 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:00.000 ever because they're hardly in it. 107 00:05:00.060 --> 00:05:03.240 Well, I was trying to think of it, actually, because it did have a 108 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:04.500 big list of Terry tropes. 109 00:05:04.620 --> 00:05:07.620 I did look back, you know, trying to find some interviews and 110 00:05:07.620 --> 00:05:09.300 stuff that suggested that this was the case. 111 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:13.800 But all I could get was just a report where Holmes and maybe 112 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:17.459 Terrence Dix is Terrence Dix's commissioning stories for season 12 113 00:05:17.459 --> 00:05:18.959 or he's somehow involved. 114 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.079 Yeah, Terence Dixon Barry Letts came up with the concept of going 115 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:23.279 back to the Dalek's origin. 116 00:05:23.339 --> 00:05:28.199 And didn't they complain to Terry that he'd just done the same 117 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:28.500 thing? 118 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:30.899 you know, like we bought this script twice. 119 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.439 I think they kind of did the thing that Ian Hendry did to writers 120 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.959 on the Avengers, where he would call them all hacks, which got 121 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.300 them terribly wild on, so they wrote better stuff. 122 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.800 And so does Bob Holmes expect Harry now to have learned his lesson 123 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:44.879 and do a good job? 124 00:05:44.939 --> 00:05:49.019 And he expects Barry Letts, who's a very experienced director and 125 00:05:49.019 --> 00:05:49.980 who's done this a lot. 126 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:53.339 Does he expect them, and this is what Sandra says. 127 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:57.000 It's like, Holmes and Hinchcliffe leave those 2 alone to do the 128 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:58.259 Android invasion. 129 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.779 And as a result, it's a bit of a disaster. 130 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.980 And, you know, like the person that Holmes chooses to rewrite. 131 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:09.720 Like he chooses to rewrite Pyramids of Mars on one side and he 132 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.019 chooses to rewrite Brain of Morbius, which is Terence Dix, who's 133 00:06:13.019 --> 00:06:14.819 pretty reliable inside of robot. 134 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.399 But so, but he doesn't rewrite Nation. 135 00:06:17.459 --> 00:06:18.300 He mustn't have time. 136 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.459 And so it's not very good. 137 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:22.319 I think it's very much that. 138 00:06:22.379 --> 00:06:26.699 It's also because Brain of Morbius will talk more about this next 139 00:06:26.699 --> 00:06:26.939 week. 140 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.339 Brain Morb has had to be rewritten by an edict from Philip 141 00:06:29.339 --> 00:06:30.060 Hinchcliffe. 142 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:35.639 So, for instance, with Pyramids of Mars by Lewis Griefer, both 143 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:38.519 Holmes and Hingcliffe were in agreement that the script wouldn't 144 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:39.600 really work for Doctor Who. 145 00:06:39.660 --> 00:06:40.139 Right. 146 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:45.779 Whereas for Brain of Morbius, Holmes and Dix had worked very 147 00:06:45.779 --> 00:06:48.540 closely on the script and they both really liked it, but it was 148 00:06:48.540 --> 00:06:52.560 Philip Hinchcliffe, who came along and said, oh, no, we're not 149 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:52.800 doing that. 150 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.860 Now we're doing this, but we'll talk about this more next time. 151 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.160 But yeah, I think certainly how busy Holmes was with those 2 152 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:03.060 surrounding stories, and possibly with Planet of Evil as well 153 00:07:03.060 --> 00:07:06.600 might have influenced this, but Holmes did do a fair amount of 154 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:07.379 rewriting on the story. 155 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:10.379 He actually rewrote a lot of episode 2 and three. 156 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:16.560 See, what you don't get, you get such sort of banal terry dialogue 157 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:22.620 you know, like I really miss the incredible, uh, witticisms that 158 00:07:22.620 --> 00:07:24.480 you get in pyramids of Mars. 159 00:07:24.540 --> 00:07:27.000 And again, even more so embracing. 160 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.459 And we haven't even touched on the trouble with Harry. 161 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:30.839 Now a bit worried, gentlemen. 162 00:07:30.899 --> 00:07:33.420 I hope this is Todd on the way in, but who knows? 163 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.240 It may be a stigrin duplicate. 164 00:07:36.300 --> 00:07:40.259 I think we should put some air back in that octahedron. floating 165 00:07:40.259 --> 00:07:42.300 terrariums looking, you know, a bit sealed. 166 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:43.680 Hi, Todd, how you feeling? 167 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:48.959 The involvement of unit in this story is quite peripheral. 168 00:07:49.019 --> 00:07:53.040 And I think it's a shame that we get to see evil, Benton, and 169 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:58.259 Harry. for the most part in this their last appearance. 170 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:00.060 And there's no real goodbye. 171 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.740 Also to that. 172 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.620 Colonel Faraday is a bit of a idiot. 173 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:10.920 And I can see why Nick Courtney was not involved with this for 174 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:11.819 whatever reasons. 175 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:15.240 Are you pleased that Nick didn't come back just to deliver those 176 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:15.600 lines? 177 00:08:15.660 --> 00:08:20.220 What do you think of this unit's final outing? 178 00:08:20.339 --> 00:08:22.319 I need a new lease of life. 179 00:08:22.379 --> 00:08:25.199 I must go and try the Planet of Khan. 180 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:26.939 I hear they've got some elixir there. 181 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:28.500 I hope I don't lose my head over it. 182 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.600 This is why I loathe this story because of the wasting. 183 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:34.980 Yeah, yeah. 184 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:35.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 185 00:08:35.820 --> 00:08:38.639 Not just the wasting of a martyr, but the wasting of John Levine 186 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:39.720 at this point as well. 187 00:08:39.779 --> 00:08:42.000 That's last ever, and it's... 188 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:43.679 It's the waste of an entire idea. 189 00:08:43.740 --> 00:08:45.299 No wonder. 190 00:08:45.419 --> 00:08:47.519 No wonder Nick Courtney's... 191 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:48.659 I think so. 192 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.220 Well, the most... 193 00:08:50.220 --> 00:08:51.960 The most bizarre thing about that is... 194 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:57.360 Terry Nation, his scripts were a lot more heavily focussed on the 195 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.340 Android element, the Android duplicates. 196 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:03.720 In Terry Nation's original script, Android Harry actually actively 197 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.320 hunted Sarah and they had lots of interaction and what have you. 198 00:09:07.379 --> 00:09:09.539 Do you know who was responsible for pulling that out? 199 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:10.679 Robert Holmes. 200 00:09:10.740 --> 00:09:12.179 No, it was Hinchcliffe. 201 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.759 Hinchcliffe said, don't push Harry so much. 202 00:09:14.820 --> 00:09:15.899 Don't push Ian. 203 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:17.279 Oh, because we're DM emphasising him. 204 00:09:17.340 --> 00:09:19.679 Yeah, he wanted to push more of Sarah. 205 00:09:19.740 --> 00:09:20.820 It's such a terrible thing. 206 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.299 What the hell was wrong with Inchcleiff thinking that in Marty's 207 00:09:24.299 --> 00:09:26.279 character was not, I know I'm personalised. 208 00:09:26.340 --> 00:09:26.879 He did make him. 209 00:09:26.940 --> 00:09:28.620 He admits that he's made a mistake. 210 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:30.120 Yeah, I'm being unfair. 211 00:09:30.179 --> 00:09:32.700 But, oh, it's my, it's my one thing for this season. 212 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.779 I really want Harry Simon, but... 213 00:09:36.779 --> 00:09:40.080 So here you've got Harry completely wasted and we've seen evil... 214 00:09:40.139 --> 00:09:41.879 And he doesn't mean drunk like this podcast. 215 00:09:41.940 --> 00:09:44.580 We've seen evil duplicate Harry before. 216 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:47.220 Yeah, we have with the pitchfork. spectacular. 217 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:51.480 Yeah, he was so good in Zygons as Evil Harry that he was cut out 218 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:52.440 for the video release. 219 00:09:52.500 --> 00:09:57.720 Does any of the gentlestness remember the not the DVD, but the VHS 220 00:09:57.720 --> 00:09:59.639 release of Terror of Zycons. 221 00:09:59.700 --> 00:10:02.220 That whole scene with Sarah and Harry in the barn was cut to 222 00:10:02.220 --> 00:10:05.940 pieces because it was considered too terrifying simply because of 223 00:10:05.940 --> 00:10:07.139 Ian Martis' performance. 224 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.100 And watch again the DVD release where it's there in full. is the 225 00:10:11.100 --> 00:10:11.700 best thing. 226 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.940 It's beautifully done, of course, but he's good. 227 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:15.840 He's really, really good. 228 00:10:15.899 --> 00:10:16.919 And hot. 229 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:17.519 Did we mention that? 230 00:10:17.580 --> 00:10:19.080 kind of. 231 00:10:19.139 --> 00:10:20.519 But he's really wasted here. 232 00:10:20.580 --> 00:10:22.379 Never say no to a pitchfork list. 233 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:23.580 Like, there's no point. 234 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:25.200 There's no point to him being here. 235 00:10:25.259 --> 00:10:26.460 There's no point... 236 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:27.779 No, that's exactly yeah, yeah. 237 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:28.860 It's also awesome. 238 00:10:28.980 --> 00:10:33.240 But what we don't get is any real fun with the Androids, and we 239 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:34.320 get it in episode four. 240 00:10:34.620 --> 00:10:38.820 There's a huge structural problem with the story, which is the 1st 241 00:10:38.820 --> 00:10:43.139 2 episodes set up this, Earth looks like it's been invaded and 242 00:10:43.139 --> 00:10:47.279 it's undermined control, and there are scary androids with 243 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:50.159 gunfingers, which are pay because they're fantastic. 244 00:10:50.220 --> 00:10:52.860 Like a bond finger bang. 245 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:54.120 They're really, really good. 246 00:10:54.179 --> 00:10:56.220 They're perfect for imitating the playground. 247 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.059 I think they're really funny And so that's what that's what it 248 00:11:00.059 --> 00:11:01.200 looks like is happening. 249 00:11:01.259 --> 00:11:04.139 And Tom goes along with that. 250 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:05.759 That's what his theory is. 251 00:11:05.820 --> 00:11:08.639 And he comes up with a whole bunch of theories that turn out to be 252 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:09.419 completely wrong. 253 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.460 Like, oh, they could have been a radiation league. they could have 254 00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:12.000 been... 255 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.100 He's nearly omniscient last year. 256 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:15.539 Yeah, and the doctor gets it so wrong. 257 00:11:15.899 --> 00:11:19.559 Because it's Terry and he's kind of being retro and he's forgotten 258 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.320 that the doctor knows everything sort of nowadays. he's not 259 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.000 writing for pertwee either because he knew everything. 260 00:11:24.059 --> 00:11:27.179 Yeah, but you know, I quite I quite like that when the doctor 261 00:11:27.179 --> 00:11:29.879 brings up these theories, he doesn't he doesn't marry himself to 262 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.240 any of them, you know, he kind of goes, oh, well, this could be 263 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:33.600 happening. 264 00:11:33.659 --> 00:11:35.399 I'm not sure it is but it could be. 265 00:11:35.460 --> 00:11:38.639 And so what that means is for the 1st 2 episodes, everyone that we 266 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:39.840 see is an Android. 267 00:11:39.899 --> 00:11:43.500 And so there are no chances of people meeting their Android 268 00:11:43.500 --> 00:11:44.220 duplicates. 269 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:48.600 Then in episode 3, we're baffing around, wasting time in the crime 270 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.500 base, and so we don't have any Android people meeting there. 271 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:55.200 I want to call them robot replicas. 272 00:11:55.259 --> 00:11:56.220 Do you remember that episode? 273 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.340 There's an episode of Press Gang by Stephen Moffatt called 274 00:11:59.340 --> 00:12:04.320 Unexpected, which is about a TV show called Professor X, which was 275 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:05.879 really ropey that all of... 276 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.580 Which actually started in these new adventures. 277 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:10.740 I think it predates them. 278 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:11.460 Oh, wow. 279 00:12:11.460 --> 00:12:12.240 Yeah. 280 00:12:12.299 --> 00:12:14.940 No, it's Colonel X. Okay. 281 00:12:14.940 --> 00:12:15.720 He was playing... 282 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:17.220 Professor X is the new... 283 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:22.019 He's played by Michael Jason, who is who is... 284 00:12:22.259 --> 00:12:27.840 And he talks about robot replicas of things. 285 00:12:27.899 --> 00:12:30.419 So I want to call these the robot replicas. 286 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.240 So no one meets their robot replica because we're still faffing 287 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:34.559 about on the planet aside. 288 00:12:34.620 --> 00:12:38.759 And then we go to Earth and we spend a while getting to Earth and 289 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:42.059 really then it only happens just a couple of times. 290 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:42.899 Yes. 291 00:12:42.899 --> 00:12:46.080 And the one big moment, which I thought was just fantastic and is 292 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:51.899 kind of underplayed, it's there on the space freighter, somehow in 293 00:12:51.899 --> 00:12:52.440 19. 294 00:12:52.740 --> 00:12:53.940 What year is this, Brandon? 295 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:57.000 This is now set in 1976. 296 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:58.620 So in 1976. 297 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.620 We're building Britain is building space freighters to take 298 00:13:01.620 --> 00:13:04.259 freight into space for some reason, but whatever. 299 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:07.379 Well, now in this new timeline in 1970. 300 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:08.460 We had missions to Mars. 301 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:09.179 So, you know. 302 00:13:09.179 --> 00:13:11.399 So they're probably taking freight to Mars or so. 303 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:12.840 Still seemed. 304 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.360 Anyway, it's all right. 305 00:13:15.419 --> 00:13:17.460 Don't make any sudden noises, Richard. 306 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:18.720 1975. 307 00:13:19.259 --> 00:13:22.019 I know what I was doing in 1975. 308 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:22.919 What were you doing? 309 00:13:23.460 --> 00:13:27.059 Watching Molly Meldrum on Countdown and being embarrassed. 310 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:29.279 I do apologise. 311 00:13:29.340 --> 00:13:33.120 It is now set in 1975. 312 00:13:33.419 --> 00:13:37.379 Previously, it was said in 1980 with Crayford having gone missing 313 00:13:37.379 --> 00:13:38.399 in 1978. 314 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:43.259 It is now set in 1975 with Crayford having gone missing in 1973. 315 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.360 The reason we know this is that the calendar the doctor finds has 316 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.340 a 1973 date structure. 317 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.679 Do you know the bridge... 318 00:13:52.740 --> 00:13:55.320 It does actually only have one day repeated over and over again. 319 00:13:55.379 --> 00:13:57.179 Friday, July the 6th. 320 00:13:57.899 --> 00:13:59.340 Only happens in 1973. 321 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:03.720 But we need to say that if we just look at the real world for a 322 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:03.960 moment. 323 00:14:04.019 --> 00:14:09.179 British telemetry, because I am a nerd, was leading the world. 324 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:13.799 NASA was not thought to be the 1st people in space. 325 00:14:13.860 --> 00:14:17.039 We haven't even got to the whole fact that the Nazis were running 326 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:21.659 NASA because Verner von Brown was, in fact, a major in the SS, and 327 00:14:21.659 --> 00:14:24.960 they were a blood cult, and there is a whole conspiracy theory 328 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.440 that is backed up by people who are actually working in NASA. that 329 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.179 Von Brown's team were deliberately delaying the space program for 330 00:14:33.179 --> 00:14:36.360 the Americans because they've all had the same uniforms and they 331 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:37.379 were all doing the same stuff. 332 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:39.059 It's very much like the Masons. 333 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:42.299 My great great great grandfather was one of the triumvirate of the 334 00:14:42.299 --> 00:14:43.500 Australian Freemasons. 335 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.860 So it was one of the top 3 which is pretty terrifying in itself. 336 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:49.980 And so I've seen a little bit of literature on it, and the stuff 337 00:14:49.980 --> 00:14:53.940 that I've seen in the family archives is that it's a blood cult 338 00:14:53.940 --> 00:14:56.039 just like the SS. 339 00:14:56.100 --> 00:14:58.620 They're all based on the book of Zion, the books of Zion. 340 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:04.379 And indeed, and I'm digressing, however, where I'm coming from is 341 00:15:04.379 --> 00:15:04.860 that? 342 00:15:04.980 --> 00:15:07.379 This stuff is not... 343 00:15:07.379 --> 00:15:10.860 This theory is crazier than... 344 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:12.059 No, it's actually true. 345 00:15:12.059 --> 00:15:17.220 And if you really, yeah, there's some firsthand stuff of the, yeah 346 00:15:17.220 --> 00:15:21.659 the Nazis were running the early American rocket program. 347 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:25.740 However, the British space program itself, the Brits were far more 348 00:15:25.740 --> 00:15:29.940 ahead in rocket telemetry than the Yanks before all of this was 349 00:15:29.940 --> 00:15:30.179 happening. 350 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:36.419 Um, it was thought in the 50s and early 60s that Britain would, in 351 00:15:36.419 --> 00:15:40.919 fact, be the 1st people to land a man on the moon, and that was a 352 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:43.740 genuine thought, that was not something in the popular press that 353 00:15:43.740 --> 00:15:49.139 was actually thought by the government and by the, the, the, the 354 00:15:49.139 --> 00:15:50.519 hit boys that beat. 355 00:15:50.580 --> 00:15:51.299 No, it's true. 356 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:56.279 It's actually only Kennedy's speech that we will land a man and 357 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:01.679 then his deaf in 63, that made, for all you want to say against 358 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.000 Lyndon Bane Johnson. 359 00:16:03.059 --> 00:16:06.779 For all you want to say against Nixon and LBJ, they thought, no, no 360 00:16:06.779 --> 00:16:11.100 if we want to keep the American dream alive, we need to be 1st on 361 00:16:11.100 --> 00:16:11.639 the moon. 362 00:16:11.700 --> 00:16:15.659 But Britain was looking very likely, they were able to far more 363 00:16:15.659 --> 00:16:19.259 accurately power their engines and power, telemetry, of course, is 364 00:16:19.259 --> 00:16:22.320 the science of getting a rocket to where you want it to be, far 365 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:23.639 more ahead than the US. 366 00:16:23.700 --> 00:16:26.519 Um, there could have been a British space program. 367 00:16:26.580 --> 00:16:28.860 And okay, we're already in the twilight of that. 368 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.580 But in the 60s, it was very much a real thing. 369 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:34.919 And there were viewers who were watching this who would have 370 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.100 remembered that British aeronautics and British space program 371 00:16:38.100 --> 00:16:38.639 was. 372 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:40.620 It was a possibility. 373 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.639 Absolutely, way back when, in Doctor Who, in an exciting adventure 374 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.740 with the Daleks, instead of being a school teacher. 375 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:50.940 Ian Chesterton was on his way to be interviewed for a job making 376 00:16:50.940 --> 00:16:52.259 rockets. right. 377 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.059 I have a copy of it right. 378 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:55.080 I got him reading it. 379 00:16:55.139 --> 00:16:58.019 Well, so the point that I was about to make. 380 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:00.240 We never segue now. 381 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.519 Before we headed off somewhere. 382 00:17:02.580 --> 00:17:05.039 There were Nazis, it was really good. 383 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:08.460 It was like back in the college bunker. right. 384 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.119 This whole season, no, last season was just full of Nazis. 385 00:17:12.180 --> 00:17:13.799 It's very present. 386 00:17:13.859 --> 00:17:17.460 What I was about to say is there is a moment when we're in the 387 00:17:17.460 --> 00:17:20.099 space freight, and this is where we jumped off from, isn't it? 388 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:25.140 Where, you know, those sort of terrible pod things that look like 389 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:28.500 dogs' noses, you know, the pod. 390 00:17:28.619 --> 00:17:29.819 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 391 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.759 They look like fronts of really crushed up e-type jags. 392 00:17:32.819 --> 00:17:35.579 Yes, yes, it must have been a nasty accident. 393 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.980 And the doctor gets up and looks out, but the other doctor is in 394 00:17:40.980 --> 00:17:41.579 the foreground. 395 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:43.079 You sort of think, oh, great. 396 00:17:43.140 --> 00:17:45.900 We're actually going to have people meeting their robot replicas 397 00:17:45.900 --> 00:17:48.180 but it doesn't actually happen until episode four. 398 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.519 And there are some good scenes where it happens. 399 00:17:50.579 --> 00:17:54.000 There's that scene where the doctor's in the office with Colonel 400 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:57.839 Faraday and Harry, and he brings out the robot detector and it 401 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:01.380 detects both of them as well as the doctor, the robot doctor who 402 00:18:01.380 --> 00:18:02.700 comes in to confront them. 403 00:18:02.700 --> 00:18:04.740 That's terribly fun and funny. 404 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.099 And the doctor, you know, finally defeating and sort of trying to 405 00:18:08.099 --> 00:18:10.200 beat up his robot replica is all very fun. 406 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:13.740 But even when the robot replicas turn up, Basically, before we 407 00:18:13.740 --> 00:18:18.299 even get to see it happen, they knock out their counterparts and 408 00:18:18.299 --> 00:18:19.380 substitute for them. 409 00:18:19.500 --> 00:18:23.220 So there's no people confronting their robot replicas at all and 410 00:18:23.220 --> 00:18:25.019 the whole thing is sort of terribly dumb. 411 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:26.940 It is a wasted opportunity. 412 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:31.619 And yeah, it's especially, it's disappointing again for Harry and 413 00:18:31.619 --> 00:18:35.039 Benton that they're so easily subdued, you know. 414 00:18:35.099 --> 00:18:38.880 And, of course, um, Nick Courtney is not available, so we get 415 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:40.859 Colonel Faraday plays by... 416 00:18:40.859 --> 00:18:42.599 Who's terrible? 417 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.599 Plays by... played by Patrick Neal, who played Mother. 418 00:18:45.660 --> 00:18:47.880 This is the mother, but it's a... 419 00:18:47.940 --> 00:18:49.500 Yeah, this is the thin stage of his career. 420 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:53.279 Yeah, because he used to be very, very big. 421 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:58.259 At this stage, he's, I think, in his late 30s or early 40s, he's 422 00:18:58.259 --> 00:18:58.859 actually quite young. 423 00:18:58.920 --> 00:18:59.940 Is he only that young? 424 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.400 Yeah, I thought he was much older, but no, for his health, he was 425 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:03.539 told after the Avengers team. 426 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:04.200 He really am. 427 00:19:04.259 --> 00:19:04.799 Yeah, slimmed out. 428 00:19:04.859 --> 00:19:08.640 In the 1968 69 series with the Avengers with Linda Force, and he 429 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:10.559 played their boss in a wheelchair. 430 00:19:10.619 --> 00:19:12.420 Fat bloke in a wheelchair. 431 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:14.279 Or Ironside, really. 432 00:19:14.339 --> 00:19:15.240 It was actually a reflection. 433 00:19:15.299 --> 00:19:16.319 It was a trigger on. 434 00:19:16.380 --> 00:19:19.200 It was bloody terry nation because he thought that they don't have 435 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:19.799 a boss. 436 00:19:19.859 --> 00:19:21.779 How does this series make any sense? 437 00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:24.180 It was more interesting than we didn't know. 438 00:19:24.299 --> 00:19:26.339 That being said, he's very good as mother. 439 00:19:26.460 --> 00:19:27.839 Yeah, he's lovely. 440 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:30.180 He doesn't get a chance to do anything here. 441 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.299 I have a feeling, you know, it was meant to be Nick. 442 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.099 It's Barry Lett's directing. 443 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:38.279 Barry just probably pointed and said, you know, walk that way, walk 444 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:38.700 that way. 445 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:42.240 It's quite tragic with Patrick Neal, really, because he was mother 446 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:45.660 in the Avengers and that really... 447 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.480 Yeah, and it really sent his start rising and he started to get 448 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:48.960 lots of work. 449 00:19:49.019 --> 00:19:51.839 But he had to lose the weight for his health. 450 00:19:51.900 --> 00:19:52.799 So he lost the weight. 451 00:19:52.859 --> 00:19:56.099 But people were casting him because in the frame, he's the fat 452 00:19:56.099 --> 00:19:57.539 bloke. you know, you notice him. 453 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:00.000 People weren't noticing him when he lost weight all through the 454 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:00.480 70s. 455 00:20:00.539 --> 00:20:02.039 He was only getting sporadic work. 456 00:20:02.099 --> 00:20:04.380 So towards the end of the 70s, he said, bugger it. put the weight 457 00:20:04.380 --> 00:20:04.680 back on. 458 00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:07.259 In 1984, I think it was. 459 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:10.079 He did one of the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes, and it was one of 460 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.900 his last productions after he'd put even more weight back on. 461 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.119 And he died of a heart attack. 462 00:20:15.180 --> 00:20:17.519 You know, it's it's quite several. 463 00:20:17.579 --> 00:20:18.900 But he's not good in this at all. 464 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:20.400 Ian McNee, you're listening. 465 00:20:22.019 --> 00:20:23.819 Yes, we can. 466 00:20:24.539 --> 00:20:27.059 He's sadly not good in this at all. 467 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:28.980 It's not his fault, though. 468 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:33.960 No, do you know why it's not, that's not good because this story, I 469 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:37.500 wonder if there's a little bit of underhand poker playing, a 470 00:20:37.500 --> 00:20:39.359 little bit, a little bit of poker face. 471 00:20:39.420 --> 00:20:41.519 Do you think barriers deliberately sabotaged? 472 00:20:41.579 --> 00:20:43.500 No, I think Hinchcliffe and Holmes are? 473 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:48.240 I think they're saying if you really miss this early 70s viewer, if 474 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:51.000 you think it was better back in the pertweed day, we're going to 475 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.140 show you why it wasn't. 476 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.240 We're going to let Barry have his hand. 477 00:20:54.299 --> 00:20:58.680 And we're going to give you a 70 story so much so that we're 478 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:02.640 actually going to give you Stepford Wives and Westworld and all 479 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:06.299 those other stories, including the Avengers stories when every 2nd 480 00:21:06.299 --> 00:21:10.500 episode was about a village deserted and the hour that never was. 481 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.119 Is that the story, Brendan? 482 00:21:12.180 --> 00:21:16.859 Yeah, it's really this, I think this is actually the worst of the 483 00:21:16.859 --> 00:21:17.160 season. 484 00:21:17.220 --> 00:21:21.660 I think it is too, but can we mention, we're contractually obliged 485 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:22.920 to mention Sandafar. 486 00:21:22.980 --> 00:21:26.880 And what Santa says about terror, the Zygons, is that it is 487 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:32.039 actually a pastiche of the pertwy era, but it's really done well. 488 00:21:32.099 --> 00:21:35.460 What they don't do is do a crummy story and say, look at that 489 00:21:35.460 --> 00:21:37.980 that's what the purty year is like, that's why it doesn't work. 490 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:42.420 What they do is a really good, enjoyable story, which nevertheless 491 00:21:42.420 --> 00:21:45.960 shows that the show has sort of progressed beyond the person. 492 00:21:46.019 --> 00:21:47.339 Yeah, like, this is how we do this story now. 493 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:52.079 So now, what happens, therefore, is that this comes across as a 494 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:57.180 really just a pale imitation of terror of the zygons. 495 00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:58.079 Can I do a checklist? 496 00:21:58.140 --> 00:21:58.980 Yeah. 497 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:00.599 We're set in a small village. 498 00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:04.319 There's a hidden camera for the aliens to monitor the villages 499 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:05.460 located in the park. 500 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:07.740 There's a hidden alien base nearby. 501 00:22:07.859 --> 00:22:12.660 The aliens are mostly represented by a single male character who's 502 00:22:12.660 --> 00:22:13.680 a villain in a rubber mask. 503 00:22:13.740 --> 00:22:17.940 The aliens created duplicate Harry and some other duplicate 504 00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:18.240 people. 505 00:22:18.299 --> 00:22:22.619 The aliens home planet is gone or becoming uninhabitable and they 506 00:22:22.619 --> 00:22:24.000 want to invade the earth. 507 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:30.420 So this is a sort of crummy version of Zygons, and it just doesn't 508 00:22:30.420 --> 00:22:33.059 have any of the wit and charm that Zygons had. 509 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.579 But what it does have. 510 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:38.519 And I think this is worth saying in all fairness is what it does 511 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.319 have is some pretty spectacular moments. 512 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:44.220 Yeah, it's it's great for Tom and Liz wandering around the 513 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:44.759 countryside. 514 00:22:44.819 --> 00:22:45.660 Mind the bramble. 515 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:47.279 Oh, I said mind the bramble. 516 00:22:47.339 --> 00:22:48.240 Which was a throw in line. 517 00:22:48.299 --> 00:22:48.839 Yeah. 518 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:51.359 Oh, you know, all their really good stuff is throwing lines. 519 00:22:51.420 --> 00:22:54.960 I watched the DVD with the production subtitles on and practically 520 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:56.819 every location scene with the 2 of them. 521 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.779 There was a subtitle to the effect of Tom Baker and Elizabeth 522 00:23:00.779 --> 00:23:04.980 Sladen. reworked a lot of their scenes with a shoot, which is a 523 00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:08.460 polite way of saying, and we actually had a sample of some terri 524 00:23:08.460 --> 00:23:11.460 nation dialogue, the doctor going, eeny, meeny, miny, mo, replaces 525 00:23:11.460 --> 00:23:13.680 the doctor saying, let's see where we are. 526 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:16.200 Scintillating, Terry. 527 00:23:16.259 --> 00:23:16.680 Well done. 528 00:23:16.740 --> 00:23:19.380 Yeah, it's it's not good. 529 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:20.819 And I'm gonna raise something else. 530 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.460 Maybe you were going to race that's a terrible thing. 531 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:24.599 But what? 532 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:29.339 What are unit doing at the research centre? 533 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:30.720 The brigadier has an office there. 534 00:23:30.779 --> 00:23:32.759 They knew they didn't have the brigadier. 535 00:23:32.819 --> 00:23:33.660 Why keep that in? 536 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.480 Why not have Colonel Faraday as the commanding officer there? 537 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:40.319 And Benton and Harry were just there for 2 weeks to see off the 538 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:43.079 space program because unit were there the last time we sent a 539 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:43.619 rocket up. 540 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.539 And that's how Crayford knows where they are. 541 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.660 But to have Crayford know the brigadier, but not well enough to 542 00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:51.480 create Nander a duplicate of him, but he can know Colonel Faraday 543 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.519 who's presumably only there occasionally to fill in for the 544 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.460 brigadier while the brigadier in Geneva, where if we were in the 545 00:23:56.460 --> 00:23:58.859 original timeline, he would have been retired by now. anyway, I do 546 00:23:58.859 --> 00:23:59.400 not know. 547 00:23:59.460 --> 00:24:02.700 And that's my that's actually my main problem with this story. 548 00:24:03.900 --> 00:24:05.819 I'm easily pleased. 549 00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:10.140 I mean, there are fun things that I've already mentioned the 550 00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:13.259 finger guns in the Androids, but I think, you know, the 551 00:24:13.259 --> 00:24:16.259 Cliffhanger to episode 2 is really like it's crummy. 552 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:17.279 It's stupid. 553 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:18.299 It's stupid. 554 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.700 Like their face is full off the Androids when they roll over. 555 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:25.619 Slayden sells it It's the exact scene from step for wives, yeah. 556 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.680 And I'm not talking about the truly ontological threat that is 557 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:30.480 Nicole Kidman. 558 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.539 If you look at the original, it's really... 559 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.940 Oh, this is the children. 560 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.200 Oh, I didn't know they did a rematch. 561 00:24:37.259 --> 00:24:38.640 Yeah, it's pretty bad. 562 00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:39.359 It's great. 563 00:24:39.420 --> 00:24:41.519 It's just John Windham in apotheosis. 564 00:24:41.579 --> 00:24:45.779 But the $6000000 man does Day of the Robot and there was a doll 565 00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:50.339 figure of called Maskatron, which I have in a box here. 566 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:55.799 That is very much a Guy Crayford type Androidy. 567 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.779 Oh, they never made a copy of Guy Crayford. 568 00:24:57.839 --> 00:24:58.440 They didn't really need to. 569 00:24:58.500 --> 00:25:01.740 Why the hell does he think he can't see? 570 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.259 And again, Nicholas Courtney? 571 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:05.640 Why the eye patch? 572 00:25:05.700 --> 00:25:10.799 Yeah, so that's, I actually found some video and if I can find it 573 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:12.539 I'll put a link to it in the show notes. 574 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.299 They actually interview Milton Johns himself, and I think some 575 00:25:15.299 --> 00:25:16.680 other people are... 576 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:17.640 He's the best thing in this. 577 00:25:17.700 --> 00:25:20.400 Yeah, well, like, he was great as Bennett. 578 00:25:20.460 --> 00:25:23.039 Remember him in Enemy of the World, where he was like evil 579 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:23.640 sadistic? 580 00:25:23.700 --> 00:25:24.240 Monster. 581 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:25.980 He was wonderful, really terrific. 582 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.099 I think he's I think he's really good as Crayford, despite the eye 583 00:25:29.099 --> 00:25:29.579 patch thing. 584 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:32.579 You know, that's, that's, that's a script slaw. rub than an actor 585 00:25:32.579 --> 00:25:32.880 flaw. 586 00:25:32.940 --> 00:25:36.480 For instance, very early on when Stigren wants the doctor alive 587 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:37.980 and Crayford argues with him. 588 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.200 I was thinking to myself why does he do that? 589 00:25:40.259 --> 00:25:42.599 And it's Stockholm Syndrome. 590 00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:46.500 He has become so indebted to his captors that he doesn't want 591 00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:47.579 competition. 592 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:51.599 Well, in fact, we get that, you know, the scene is it in episode 3 593 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.960 where Crayford comes into the doctor and Sarah's cell to deliver 594 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:56.700 some exposition. good in that scene. 595 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.119 You know, the nervousness and the twitchiness of a character. 596 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:00.660 He's so good. 597 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.839 And they will get him back in a couple of years time to basically 598 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:09.059 reprise the role of someone under control of sort of potato-headed 599 00:26:09.059 --> 00:26:10.259 aliens. 600 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.960 I mean, he is really funny. 601 00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:14.579 We haven't exhausted that yet, have we? 602 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.279 No, there's still 2 doctors to talk about. 603 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.799 So, yeah, look, I mean, he is he is okay, I guess. 604 00:26:22.859 --> 00:26:25.319 So but what about the eye patch? 605 00:26:25.380 --> 00:26:28.559 Well, I mean, that's the stupidest thing that ever happened, isn't 606 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:28.740 it? 607 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.059 Is it the stupidest thing? 608 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:30.900 I think it actually is. 609 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.000 It's even... 610 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.180 Like, you know, it's even stupider than Horace's policy for 611 00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:38.579 furnishing suited, prison sales. 612 00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:40.619 Because, you know, you could even kind... 613 00:26:40.619 --> 00:26:44.099 You could even kind of hang a lantern on that of, you know, in 614 00:26:44.099 --> 00:26:45.000 Egyptian culture. 615 00:26:45.059 --> 00:26:47.640 You bury people with things they need in the afterlife. 616 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.259 Like bomb. 617 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.839 Missiles, robots. 618 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:54.900 This was his favourite explosive device. 619 00:26:55.740 --> 00:26:57.299 That's it. 620 00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:57.900 Brilliant. 621 00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:59.519 He loves that, actually. 622 00:26:59.579 --> 00:27:01.920 He loved that a siren war missile. 623 00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:04.440 Used to take it to the park on picnic. 624 00:27:04.500 --> 00:27:06.660 Speaking of Su Tech, she's jumping around us at the moment. 625 00:27:06.779 --> 00:27:09.299 She's feeling much better off. after she threw up this morning. 626 00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:11.160 Yes, all over Sitics too. 627 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:13.980 That's right. 628 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:17.940 I actually think the Kral's plan is pretty stupid as well. 629 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:18.720 Oh, yeah. 630 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.099 When do we start? 631 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:22.319 I quite like the stupid villains. 632 00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:26.940 We have a plague that affects kraals as well as human beings, so 633 00:27:26.940 --> 00:27:30.720 maybe their technology doesn't stretch to a plague that only 634 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:31.799 affects human beings. 635 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.599 Or indeed immunisation. 636 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:35.220 Yeah, that's right. 637 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:36.960 So they're having a giant panic about it. 638 00:27:37.019 --> 00:27:38.160 They're all going to Harry. 639 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.059 Harry robot replica is pouring the water and he has a giant pan. 640 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:43.319 Out of the Vaseline jar. 641 00:27:43.380 --> 00:27:45.299 Yeah, it is a Vaseline, doesn't it? 642 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:47.759 And Zari let's put it in a crinoid pod. 643 00:27:47.819 --> 00:27:50.279 Which looks fine from a distance, and Barry lets decides to give 644 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.680 her a close-up, where you can very clearly see it's a Vaseline 645 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:53.099 job. 646 00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:58.859 So we've got that. then it's not airborne or anything. 647 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.079 No, you've got it's got to be contact. 648 00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:03.299 Yeah, contact or injure water. 649 00:28:03.539 --> 00:28:05.880 Yeah, do you think they were going to put it in the water? 650 00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:08.460 It's a monster, they put it into a doctor's water. 651 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.940 It's a monstrous thing when Sarah almost drinks the water. 652 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.339 It's too close, Philip Hinchcliffe. 653 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:15.000 But that's okay. 654 00:28:15.059 --> 00:28:16.740 She gives a guard a good stiff jolt. 655 00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:17.880 She really does. 656 00:28:17.940 --> 00:28:21.240 In fact, she rescues the doctor no less than 3 times in this story 657 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.220 and it is a bit of a departure for Terry. 658 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.279 You know, he does include, at least include one ankle twist, you 659 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.859 know, but she is actually pretty proactive. 660 00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:30.660 And in fact, I think it's a pattern. 661 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:35.039 I think that Sarah, this season rescues the doctor vastly more 662 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:36.539 times than he rescues her. 663 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:37.200 You do. 664 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:37.559 She does. 665 00:28:37.619 --> 00:28:39.539 You can say it now, Richard. 666 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.400 What's this show becoming? 667 00:28:41.460 --> 00:28:43.019 The event. 668 00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:44.099 It's becoming the event. 669 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.920 But don't forget, this is a very much Avengers Terry Nation 670 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:47.279 story. 671 00:28:47.339 --> 00:28:51.720 This has more filmed outside broadcasting than any other story 672 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:52.140 this season. 673 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.319 It really chewed the budget. paired down. 674 00:28:55.380 --> 00:28:59.940 It's 9 minutes into the 1st episode before we're on videotape. do 675 00:28:59.940 --> 00:29:00.299 like that. 676 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:00.900 It does look good. 677 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:02.460 I love... 678 00:29:02.460 --> 00:29:03.420 I love that opening. 679 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:04.740 Yes, when the doctor comes in. 680 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:06.119 The locations are lovely. 681 00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:08.579 You think we're finally going to get a holiday for them? 682 00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:12.720 There is 31 minutes of film in this episode. 683 00:29:12.779 --> 00:29:14.819 Is that why she takes a while? 684 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.359 to come back. 685 00:29:15.420 --> 00:29:16.680 Yeah, I think you know what? 686 00:29:16.740 --> 00:29:20.220 I think it is because Philip Hinchcliffe made him take a lot out 687 00:29:20.220 --> 00:29:22.619 and that's the paired down version. 688 00:29:22.619 --> 00:29:24.059 And that is why we will see next week. 689 00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.519 Brian of Morbius is entirely in the studio. 690 00:29:26.579 --> 00:29:29.460 That's the only way Philip could rationalise it in the budget. 691 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.420 But it works so well, not that I'm going to predicate Brandon 692 00:29:33.420 --> 00:29:37.559 Morbius, but Brandon Morbius is BBC Shakespeare. 693 00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:41.099 And it's performed exactly the same way as the Shakespeare's we 694 00:29:41.099 --> 00:29:41.400 had to watch. 695 00:29:41.460 --> 00:29:44.400 You know, I'm going to say something in praise of this story. 696 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.480 And it's because it's not because we'd particularly criticise this 697 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.480 story because this story deserves a lot of the criticism it 698 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:51.960 receives. 699 00:29:52.019 --> 00:29:54.420 I still enjoy it because it's got Tom and Liz running about now. 700 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:55.200 Yeah, fabulous. 701 00:29:55.259 --> 00:29:56.160 They're really good in this. 702 00:29:56.220 --> 00:30:01.920 But I do think that the twist that we're not on an earth that's 703 00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.279 been invaded by aliens, we're on a training ground for a species 704 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:06.299 that's going to invade us. 705 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.900 I think it's possibly Terry Nations cleverest plot twist. 706 00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.839 However, it's Danger Man's episode Colony 3. 707 00:30:13.019 --> 00:30:15.000 It's also every scene of the prisoner. 708 00:30:15.059 --> 00:30:16.500 It's the invasion. 709 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.059 Invasion of the Earthmen. 710 00:30:18.059 --> 00:30:20.579 Invasion of the Earthmen, which was the 1st script Terry Nation 711 00:30:20.579 --> 00:30:21.539 wrote for the Avengers. 712 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.299 However, it doesn't have a terrible rubber snake. 713 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:27.960 It is, the other problem with it is it just goes to show that 714 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.240 basically everything that's happened for 2 episodes doesn't 715 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:30.480 matter. 716 00:30:30.539 --> 00:30:32.400 And I think that's a problem. 717 00:30:32.460 --> 00:30:36.480 And also episode 4 is really, really heavily compromised in terms 718 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:37.619 of quality, you know. 719 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:38.700 By the end of the story. 720 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.400 You're like, why are Harry and Benton in this story? 721 00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:42.779 Why did we mention? 722 00:30:42.900 --> 00:30:43.619 Why did we? 723 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.099 Really, it's a tease for the 1st episode where we see the 724 00:30:47.099 --> 00:30:49.559 Brigadier's office. is a tease that Nicholas is going to be there 725 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:50.940 and he's not. 726 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.500 It's it's in... 727 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:54.779 I not going to say it's insulting to the viewer, but it's very 728 00:30:54.779 --> 00:30:55.019 rude. 729 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.619 It's like it's like saying, please come to my house for a party. 730 00:30:58.680 --> 00:30:59.819 I'm going to have delicious pizza. 731 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:01.500 I've been serving everyone kale salad. 732 00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.059 Can I? 733 00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:06.119 Can I? 734 00:31:06.180 --> 00:31:08.279 Hey, kale salad's fine on its own, but not when you're expecting 735 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:08.579 pizza. 736 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:09.900 No, it's monstrous. 737 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:11.819 Can I say something about part four? 738 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.720 Part 4 is after 11 episodes. 739 00:31:15.779 --> 00:31:22.680 The 1st time a woman speaks on camera apart from Sarah. 740 00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:28.140 Yep, so there are no women uh in, there are no women guest cast in 741 00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:28.980 Planet of Evil. 742 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.319 Gosh, that Liz Slatin was a greedy book. 743 00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:37.019 There are no female guest cast in, there's no female guest cast in 744 00:31:37.019 --> 00:31:37.980 Pyramids of Mars. 745 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:42.720 In episode one, a truck pulls up and no less than 6 women, I 746 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:42.960 think. 747 00:31:43.019 --> 00:31:45.420 Well, maybe 5 or 6 we don't get out of it. 748 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:46.680 But they don't really say anything. 749 00:31:46.740 --> 00:31:51.119 And then we get Tessa, who might actually be like Indian, I think 750 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:52.740 and she does do a slight accent. 751 00:31:52.859 --> 00:31:56.579 And she is played by the wonderfully named Heather Emmanuel. 752 00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:57.720 Yeah, she's fan. 753 00:31:57.779 --> 00:32:00.839 So I thought possibly she may be New Caledonian also. 754 00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:03.000 Oh, okay, I don't know, to be honest. 755 00:32:03.059 --> 00:32:05.759 Well, whatever, but it's a woman who's speaking on camera. 756 00:32:05.819 --> 00:32:08.339 She's got no discernable personality traits. 757 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.920 She's really there just to read off the computer like Sigourney 758 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.400 Weaver and Galaxy Quest, but she's at least there and they don't 759 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:15.539 make her make the coffee. 760 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.220 And yet, she's clearly educated. 761 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.319 You know, she's working as a radio astronomer or tracking a 762 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:23.460 spacecraft landing. 763 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.759 It actually kind of throws back to ambassadors of death. 764 00:32:26.819 --> 00:32:30.900 When we had... 765 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.259 We had that one, we had that wonderful woman in Ambassadors of 766 00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:37.259 Death, who, even when like the Recovery 7 was about to crash 767 00:32:37.259 --> 00:32:39.839 Recovery 7 approaching reentry. 768 00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:40.859 I loved her. 769 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.000 Yeah, she was great. 770 00:32:42.059 --> 00:32:46.140 I'd just like to mention before we move on, you know, this is a 771 00:32:46.140 --> 00:32:48.059 story that is far less than the sum of its parts. 772 00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:49.559 There are lots of great little moments. 773 00:32:49.619 --> 00:32:52.259 The doctor's gadget that he uses to scan for radiation at the 774 00:32:52.259 --> 00:32:54.779 beginning. the same gadget that Patrick uses to test the 775 00:32:54.779 --> 00:32:56.579 electrified rails in the web of fear. 776 00:32:56.640 --> 00:33:00.119 The doctor says 300 years ago I would have recognised this pod. 777 00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:02.759 It's a Kraal invention, 300 years ago, he was Patrick. 778 00:33:02.819 --> 00:33:03.599 Yeah. 779 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.099 Patrick could have met the Kraals. 780 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.119 That's kind of nice. 781 00:33:06.180 --> 00:33:07.859 I like the design of the kraals. 782 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:09.599 The masks are a bit too restrictive, but oh, well. 783 00:33:09.660 --> 00:33:12.299 They're obviously wine weed, though. 784 00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:13.740 I love the latex. 785 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.559 Mark, and when someone gets tied to a bomb. 786 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.000 I mean, I like that. 787 00:33:18.059 --> 00:33:19.980 Yeah, it's good when someone gets thrown to a bomb. 788 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.740 Did you know this this Divsham? 789 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:23.339 It really is. 790 00:33:23.460 --> 00:33:28.140 In reality, the BBC's training ground for directors and cruise? 791 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.900 It was where they went and sent them and yeah, they did little 792 00:33:30.900 --> 00:33:34.440 fake shoots around the woods and then they vaporised it. 793 00:33:34.500 --> 00:33:36.420 Yeah, they did in general, they've April. yes. 794 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.559 It's also in robot, the same, the same area is used as, as OB for 795 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:40.920 robot. 796 00:33:40.980 --> 00:33:43.920 Harry has an iPad in episode two. 797 00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:47.579 He's got this sort of iPad shaped thing that he's tapping away 798 00:33:47.579 --> 00:33:47.759 on. 799 00:33:47.819 --> 00:33:49.740 I mean, that's evil, Harry. 800 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.640 I like that Crayford is Stigren's pet. 801 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:57.900 It kind of evokes Plan of the Apes without directly ripping it 802 00:33:57.900 --> 00:33:58.079 off. 803 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.980 Crayford is Stigren's pet. 804 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:03.359 Yes, too. 805 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.319 Did I say Stigran? 806 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:05.160 or Soutet. 807 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.259 I want to be Stigran's pet. 808 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.780 No, you really don't. 809 00:34:10.500 --> 00:34:15.480 It is the most SM relationship we've seen in Doctor Who for, oh, at 810 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:16.019 least a month. 811 00:34:17.219 --> 00:34:21.119 But yeah, it all... 812 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.059 Actually, actually, since Scarman and Sue Tech. 813 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.000 I'm the only Sutex bitch around here. 814 00:34:27.059 --> 00:34:28.139 You won't get a chance. 815 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.860 I'll steam those shoulder pads straight off your jacket. 816 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.360 And he does. 817 00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:36.480 I'm very glad that Julian, or was it? 818 00:34:36.539 --> 00:34:41.400 Sandy came back then, Richard, because Kenneth Williams mentions 819 00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.679 the Android invasion in his diary. 820 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.219 In one night of television, he calls the Good Life terrible. 821 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.000 Porridge disgusting. and declares that Doctor Who gets more and 822 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:51.480 more silly. 823 00:34:51.780 --> 00:34:55.679 I have nothing to say against that. fair enough. 824 00:34:55.739 --> 00:34:57.719 It's a travesty. 825 00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:01.440 Why Sarah wearing a scarf again? 826 00:35:01.619 --> 00:35:03.599 Yeah, would that just say? 827 00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:04.199 Yeah, that's right. 828 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:08.880 She's thinking about the scar and how nice it is and how much she 829 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.059 needs... when she's being replicated. 830 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:13.559 Yeah, it's that moment. 831 00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:14.760 Is that our is that our tag? 832 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.719 It's that moment from Star Trek, what are little girls made of 833 00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.280 when Kirk being duplicated? 834 00:35:20.340 --> 00:35:23.760 So he decides to think really racist thoughts, which will give the 835 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.500 duplicate away. right. 836 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.599 He starts reciting himself. 837 00:35:27.659 --> 00:35:29.760 Mr. Spock, I'm sick of your half-blooded interference. 838 00:35:47.940 --> 00:35:52.920 And on that note, we've come to the end of our journey from... 839 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:56.099 Oh, it's Sidon to Devesham. 840 00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:59.519 We're heading back off into space now, soon to be drawn off course 841 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.659 and brought down by the combined power of more women that you can 842 00:36:03.659 --> 00:36:08.159 shake a stick at, plastic small, silver sprayed necklaces for the 843 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:08.519 next episode. 844 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.199 And teapots on their heads. 845 00:36:10.260 --> 00:36:11.099 It's all fabulous. 846 00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.320 Are you doing the eye goggle right now? 847 00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:14.460 I'm doing it. 848 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.980 I'm wearing them now, dear listener. 849 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.139 Until then, please check us out online at FTE podcast on Twitter 850 00:36:22.139 --> 00:36:25.559 flight through entirety.com or flight through entirety on Facebook 851 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:26.579 and iTunes. 852 00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.039 That's Soutec saying, please leave us a review. 853 00:36:29.099 --> 00:36:33.239 But until then, I'm off to powder my face, so I'll just take it 854 00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:34.079 off now and good night. 855 00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:35.039 Good night. 856 00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:36.059 Good everything. 857 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:39.840 You have been missing. 858 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.280 It's so too embarrassing. 859 00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:43.800 Nathan Budley, Brendan Jones and Richard Stone. 860 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:48.840 This episode, just full of Nazis, we were recording on Sunday, the 861 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:49.619 5th of June. 862 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.699 The next episode to be released on August 23rd, before you 863 00:36:53.699 --> 00:36:57.300 activate your hostility circuits, checking bondfinger.com. 864 00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:58.860 Then you'll really be annoyed. 865 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:06.239 People generally think that No, let me try this again. 866 00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:07.920 People generally think. 867 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:08.940 Do they? 868 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:10.260 Generally.