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Hello and welcome back to Flight Through Entirety, the only Doctor Who podcast whose flames are enhanced by powdered rime weed.

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I'm Brendan.

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I'm Nathan.

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And I'm a lovely Victoria Sponge, atop Cynthia Grenville's Bons.

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She is wearing a cake.

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She is very okay.

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As we head down deep powered to the planet of Khan for the brain of Morbius.

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So can I talk ancient history?

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Richard and I, of course, uh, well, you know, went from 1980 and uh, several months.

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We didn't get to see this for a long time.

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They used to strip Doctor Who at 6.30 on the ABC, as you all know, and everything was repeated over. like minky wallpaper.

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And that continued well, you know, the late 80s.

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Sylvester McCoy's first run.

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I think from...

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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After Inspector Gadget, I see what you recall.

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So this was 6.30.

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It would be the goodies and then Doctor Who, essentially, or Kenny over it and then Doctor Who.

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And they would screen season 13, but they would always skip this one on the grounds that it was just too violent.

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It was given an A rating by Australian census and that was adults.

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Interestingly enough, episode one, which features the beheading and the screaming, didn't receive the A-Ration, but every other episode did.

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Episode one could have been screened in its entirety, even with insect decapitation.

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Kids love beheadings, you know.

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So eventually we did get to see it.

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I've looked this up.

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It was on the 24th of January 1980.

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It was screened, I think, at 9 o'clock at night.

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I thought it was 9.30.

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Oh, it could have been 9.30. to stay up terribly late.

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Yeah, no, I had to stay out very late and my mother didn't want me to watch it and she told my father that he had to sit with me to ensure that it didn't become too scary or violent.

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And it was a 60 minute cut together version, which apparently left out, some of the really horrible bits.

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I can't really remember, but it still got an A rating.

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And I think my father decided 5 minutes in that the whole thing was too boring and silly and stopped paying attention to it.

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So I got to watch it all the way through.

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I did watch it all the way through, but I think I was with your father after the 1st 5 minutes.

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So, tonally, it just never... anyway, it didn't click for me in the cutdown version.

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It felt out of place.

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And at the time, I thought, oh, this is simply because we've come to it so late.

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You know, we've moved on.

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We're about to get a new doctor-ish.

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You know, we were just about to start.

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Well, actually, it was Tom's last season with Lala that was just about to be broadcast in Australia that year.

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So we didn't know that Tom was moving on, but he'd certainly been there a terribly long time.

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And hadn't he just done a tour of Australia and done keep Australia beautiful?

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And yes, that was when you guys went to meet him and Nathan, you got something autographed by him and Richard was right behind you in the line and didn't...

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But you had no idea who each other was.

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I didn't realise it was him until much.

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It was like the Romans episode four, you know, like I would dash in and then Richard would dash in and we'd just keep missing.

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I remember Nathan and his father in the family being there.

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I just, I'm sure you still bear the psychic scars of my bail... on the back of your neck.

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Yeah, I was the very last one to miss out. only because I was looking through the bookshop.

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I got there horribly early and thought, no one's going to turn up.

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It's Tom Baker.

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Grace Brothers car park for Ingamore.

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Oh, the cynicism of you.

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So glad we've grown out of that one.

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I love that it wasn't even indoors.

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It was in a car park.

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Yeah, yeah, rooftop car park.

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It was a roof car park.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Tom didn't want to.

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He looked great and he frocked up for it and, you know, he was in his season 17 outfit.

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He was absolutely monstrous and covered in heat pimples.

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Monstrously tall.

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He's took both my hands as it held...

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I gave him a Tardis I'd made.

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Oh, that's it at the end of it.

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He said, who's very lovely?

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I think he gave it to his assistant. disposed of, you know, technically.

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I'm just imagining in the divorce years later.

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No, Lala, you can have that.

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There you go.

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Richard Dawkins now owns your tartar.

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I gave one to Davison as well, and he left it behind as well.

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So they both had to leave the series quite soon. immediately following, but in no way influenced by...

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No, no.

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No, no, nothing to do with the menu hired.

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This story is considered one of the classics, and I believe we have a space bubble on its way down to us being drawn in by the energy field.

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Todd has a few words to say about that.

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I feel that this story, like the previous one, has some great moments, but the overall story really doesn't quite hang together.

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Everyone's trying really hard, and it's great to see some female characters for a change, but I just think that it ultimately is not as good as people make it out to be.

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Do you guys have the same experience?

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I find the beginning of this story rather horrific.

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The poor mutant climbing through, and then that horrible squeal it makes just before it gets stabbed.

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Is it just taking things too far?

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Is enough enough, guys?

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Well, I've been doing a spot of gardening.

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Oh, I found a couple of pods in my backyard.

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I wonder what that's all about.

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Probably nothing.

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Well, the horror question, that is really something quite relevant for this story because it's the only doctor story in Australia that was edited down like this.

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Indeed, the original video release, I believe, used in the 60 minute cut in America.

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Yeah.

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But can I just say something because it'll take no time at all, whereas we've got lots to say about the horror.

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But Todd's crazy about the production design.

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It's really amazing.

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It's Barry Newbury, who'll come back next year to do Mask of Man Dragra.

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He, but he...

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He did lots of fabulous 60s stuff.

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He was in Dalek's master plan and things.

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Marco Polo.

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Yeah, Marco Polo.

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And so these sets are really detailed and really, really terrific.

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The outdoor stuff looks convincing compared to that, you know, terrible polystarine lake in Planet of Evil.

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Well, okay, but when we say convincing, we should say BBC cod Shakespeare convincing because this is how I'm not denigrating it.

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This is how we saw theatre on television in the late 70s in the early 80s.

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And the acting, I think, is very much informed by that.

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It's not a bad thing.

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It's a good thing.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Stylistically.

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I mean, they're detailed sets, though.

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No one's going to imagine that it's really an alien planet and not, you know, studio 3 in the BBC television centre for a second.

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But they're really, really well done sets.

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And I had actually thought, because I didn't really like this before seeing it again.

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I thought originally that one of the, you know, strikes against it was the just the whole set bound thing, particularly after, you know, the incredible, fantastic location film work on Android Invasion.

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But these sets are great.

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Sometimes it's nighttime and it's sort of gloomily lit.

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There's dry ice.

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I think it's great.

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And the weird thing is, I actually think the exterior sets look better under the daytime lighting.

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Now we only get one or 2 scenes like that because of course this is a horror movie and horror movies are best set at night, which is something I still maintain was the main problem with Jurassic Park 3 being entirely set during the day.

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There was very little suspension.

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Pyramids of Mars.

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Well, yeah, pyramids of Mars in a way.

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I mean, the one area where a horror film in Daylight Works is Santaran experiment, which we discussed a few weeks ago because of course, there's nowhere to run to.

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And it's cold and winter.

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Yes, the Dario Argente thing, the goblins running over your roof.

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It's all day lit.

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The setting is, Well, apparently Hinchcliffe was quite disappointed because he wanted something more technical and futuristic, and he said, I'm just stuck with James Whale.

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James Whale, of course, was the director of the 1st 2 Universal Horror Frankenstein films.

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Bride of Frankenstein, I think, is the better one with Boris Karlov being in the 1st and Elsa Manchester playing Boris Kolov in the 2nd one.

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But the set, the set is quite interesting.

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Newberry talks about alien tech and that it was a refinery, you know, it feels a bit blade runner-ish, and it's got, um, it's got flying buttresses that are actually on the inside with a ball joint because the tectonic movement of the planet would allow it, if, you know, if you're in...

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Yeah, that's diagonal pillars.

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And you actually do use forms, you know, they don't look like that, but you do use things like that in structure when you're trying to build a building.

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We put rubber cones under the Perth performing art centre, because it's right opposite the Horseshoe Bridge Railway.

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So the whole of that theatre actually sits on a huge rubber zygon spaceship.

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I'm pretty excited.

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But yeah, this set is Kafka's castle, but I also like that it's Barbarella's city of Sogo in the window motifs.

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But mostly, and I'll, Brendan, I'll give you a picture.

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It's Breugel's 1563 ruin of the tower of Babel.

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The external is that before it falls down.

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And in a way, Solon is trying to build a tower to God by creating life.

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Yes, that's beautiful.

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There is lots and lots of classical and filmic references in this.

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So I should, but mostly it's the Rocky Horror picture show.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, they come knocking at the door with a watering can being poured over them.

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Can you smell a glass of water?

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Exactly.

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It's Dr. Brad and this is my lovely assistant, Janet.

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The sets are really, really good.

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And indeed, the sets for the exterior areas are probably the best we've seen on Doctor Who for many a year.

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I think really Planet of Evil wins for the high entire season for external internal set.

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Well, I only think on film, though, not on videotape.

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I think it's terrible.

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I'm halfway between.

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I think this certainly gives it a run for its money.

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I think Planet of Evil trumps it because of the film, and you've still got the flavour of the film, if you like, when you switch to the video.

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We haven't gone on to how awful this story is.

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You mean horror?

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I just think it's awful.

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It never worked.

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I don't miss it at all.

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I don't even see it as canon, and I think that's because we didn't get to see it.

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Can I just say, you don't blind a companion.

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It's, I haven't seen anything as bad until they inseminate Amy Pond and then whisk the child away and then we're all just supposed to forget about it for the rest of the summer.

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Oh, and she has the child back, but it turns into a pile of goo.

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Oh, very unkindly. don't say about Alex Kingston.

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I have to agree with that.

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And she falls down the stairs after that. bloody awful.

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And Holmes actually lampshades that because she claims to have a nightmare.

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Oh, I had this nightmare where I was blinded and I fell down the stairs.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And there was this body made of spare parts.

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Yeah, and that is awful.

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And I think it has been a problem with the way that Sarah's been treated all the way along.

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So you have this strong character who's introduced by Lets.

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And back in Lets's day, the companions used to have fun and all of that sort of thing.

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But Sarah's being tied up and tortured and hypnotised and dropped off a rocket gantry and and, you know, has confronted Nazis and dead bodies and all of these things.

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Like she's had a really, really horrible time and all the way through season 12, I was saying why would she ever get in the TARDIS again and now here she's been really, really, brutally. isn't it?

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It's awful, I think.

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And it is a mistake.

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I think it's a terrible mistake.

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I think and I think even Hinchcliffe said afterwards that we tried to inject it with humour and the humour is some of the best in the season.

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The problem is, is the total variance between what's going on visually and what's being said in the dialogue.

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The lines are fantastic and especially between Solon and Condo.

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If you're looking for his arm again.

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There are some really, really lovely moments, but they don't leave in the flat, the dead, dark flatness of this.

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I'm really with Todd on this one Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it's the juxtaposition of the humour to the horror quotient is just as bad, in my opinion, as the early Colin Bakers.

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I would like to say that I really like Colin Baker's doctor.

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I think he was given some very poorly conceived and poorly balanced scripts.

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I'd say you were half right.

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It's just a variance, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. between what they're trying to do.

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And yeah, the brutality and the lightness of touch doesn't work.

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The brutality of with which the characters are treated, but the doctor and Sarah.

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And yet the fun they're having.

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And when you listen to the audio commentary on it.

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They're all delighted by it.

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It's the usual thing of directors can be terribly violent when they're looking through the aperture of a camera, and yet you often find they're the most pacifist of people when you're outside of that because when it's seen through a lens, there's the divorce of self and involvement of self with the action going on.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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And I think I think they missed the beat here.

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So let's itemise the horrors that happened in this story.

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Chris, the mutt.

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Why he is still in mutt form and why he hasn't evolved into the rainbow super being. don't know.

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Because Glam Rock was dead by now.

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Yeah, that's trying.

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It was no longer fashionable to turn into rainbow high.

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Maybe there's a maybe there's a mutt purity movement on the planet solos.

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I actually think they just found a costume in the stores with the word mutt on it, and they had no idea what it was, no one in the production had seen the mutants, and so they just went with it.

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Except it's still John Scott Martin in the costume.

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I think he just took it home.

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So, um, Cruz the Mark gets decapitated.

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We learn it.

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It gets turned into a Muppet.

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Yeah, an electronic.

221
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We learn early on that condo has lost an arm and also he's a bit horrific to look at.

222
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The doctor and Sarah are... with a thyroid problem, isn't he?

223
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is an acromagallic.

224
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Don't you love how Tom still gives us a new word to learn every story?

225
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So that's Holmes.

226
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That is Bob Hunt.

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More of him later.

228
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So, Chris gets decapitated.

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Condo's lost an arm.

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The doctor and Sarah get drugged.

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The doctor then gets put on the operating table is going to have his head chopped.

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Just gets drunk.

233
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Yeah, he slames it.

234
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He actually doesn't play it like he's drunk.

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He plays it drunk.

236
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And Liz has this huge grin on her face when she can see him because she doesn't she pours the wine out.

237
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It's not really wine at some petrol or something.

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It's green cordial, like heavily diluted green cordial.

239
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But he he just plays it straightforwardly drunk and she's laughing at him.

240
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Yeah, just as a quick aside, we've had we've had Zigon lactic fluid.

241
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Where's this wine coming from?

242
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I didn't see any vineyards.

243
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The doctor then gets tied to a steak and he's going to be burned to death, at which point Sarah gets blinded trying to rescue him.

244
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And I will say that although Sarah's blinding is horrific.

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I think it's a very brave decision to have her blind for an episode and a half .

246
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There is not a quick fix for this problem.

247
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In fact, for a while, we, I mean, you know, we never think she's going to be permanently blinded, but there is that scene, the doctor takes her back to be treated by Solon, and Solon is crazy, but he's professional and he behaves like a proper doctor, except that he does lie and say that the blinding is permanent.

248
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And it's done really well.

249
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It's just a little head movement to say, yeah.

250
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You do believe him for a moment.

251
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Yeah, you do it.

252
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So what do you think then is that the elixir is going to cure her by the end or whatever.

253
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Yeah, exactly.

254
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Look, the production crew have had so much fun with it.

255
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They tried it on Leila.

256
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Yes.

257
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Moving on from there, you then get the sisters trying to kill the doctor again.

258
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Hello, Sutek.

259
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Now, and I may get the order of these events wrong, but Morbius's brain falls on the floor, which is what attracted the most complaints in the UK broadcast.

260
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I do too.

261
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It's absolutely superb.

262
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And I really, you can really see it's a big rubbery thing.

263
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Condo gets shot in the stomach, which attracted no complaints.

264
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Really?

265
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Even though Blunt explodes, everyone explodes everywhere.

266
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Blunt all over his head.

267
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Yeah, Solon is 1st strangled by the Morbius monster and then gassed to death by the doctor.

268
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One of the sisters is strangled by the Morbius monster as well before that.

269
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And then the doctor and Morbius do their mind-bending.

270
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Morbius is full of shop a cliff, and the doctor is near death and has to be revived with the elixir.

271
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And then Maran throws herself into the flame because she's too old to go on anymore.

272
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It is pretty, pretty horrific, but at least...

273
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I still enjoy it.

274
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Do you know, I actually think it's superb.

275
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And, and I think it's, it's vying with one or 2 other stories to be my favourite of the season, and I'll explain why.

276
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We have had a number of stories with no actual discernable guest characters with any personalities or anything.

277
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So Mind of Evil, you know, Sorenson, sort of, you know, Salamar, he's execrable, you know, there's Vashinsky and his off-putting gray, you know, chest.

278
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Then there's invasion of the dinosaurs, which wastes all of these guest stars and has no interesting characters.

279
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I think maybe Pyramids of Mars has one. 5 interesting characters.

280
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Here, it is a theatre piece and all of the characters are really terrifically interesting.

281
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You've got Solon who's Philip Maddock, who is superbly played.

282
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He doesn't get to do his usual Maddock, you know, quiet, calm, controlled thing that he does in the war games are in the in that Dalek movie.

283
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He is crazy, but it's such a great performance.

284
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And he has such enthusiasm as the character.

285
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You're right, this head obsession.

286
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Yeah, his voice is very different.

287
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I mean, it's still his voice.

288
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But the cadence and the quality of it.

289
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Sort of when he's making small talk with Dr. and Sarah about, oh, this is why I came to this planet, da da da.

290
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It's very conversational, but it's forced conversational.

291
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He's not used to dealing with people and you can tell it's such a wonderful performance.

292
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I was going to say subtle, but it's not really subtle, but it's not over the top.

293
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Yeah, he does pull it in.

294
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Do you know what I mean?

295
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Yeah, like it.

296
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Like when the doctor visits, you know, later to consult about Sarah's blindness.

297
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He's wonderfully underplayed.

298
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He's terrific.

299
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And he has all those homes, lines about, you know, calling Marina, Palsied Harrogan and chicken brained biological animation.

300
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Every organ is mine with my own hand.

301
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Yes.

302
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And I think one of my favourite moments.

303
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And it's just the way he plays it.

304
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When the doctor's unconscious and Sarah's pretending to be unconscious.

305
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Condo says, what about girl?

306
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And so just, what girl?

307
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It's very queer.

308
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Stop that cottage, doesn't like.

309
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Yeah, that's wonderful and condo.

310
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Then there's Condo, you know, who's sort of big and dumb, but has a crush on Sarah. someone says, oh, he's such an old romantic or something like that when he's trying to sort of stroke Sarah's face and he's, you know, obsessed with his hand.

311
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You know, Morbius is obsessed with heads, condos obsessed with hands.

312
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You know, he's really terrifically funny.

313
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You have, you know, Maranana Hoheka, who are again...

314
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Oh, he can with her giant staring eyes.

315
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She's terrifically funny, Marns are sort of a grumpy old lesbian, you know?

316
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It's she's terrific.

317
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You know, all of that stuff about their their relationship with the time lords is really interesting, you know.

318
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Yeah, yeah.

319
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And it's still putting the time lords as this mysterious force across in the program.

320
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But it is one thing, the difference between the time lords and the sisterhood is.

321
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And, you know, the doctor is dismissive of all of the, you know, the ability of the sisterhood to transport the TARDIS across to their place or to transport the doctor across. you know he thinks that's sort of really primitive.

322
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And he says the reason is that their society has ossified because they're immortal, there can be no progress at all.

323
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And so, So they don't have the thing where Ohika has replaced Maran as the leader.

324
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And we see that start to happen.

325
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Marin's too old to lead the expedition against Morbius.

326
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That's nearly the expedition.

327
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I even did the hand gestures, dear listener.

328
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What is in that?

329
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She's really stoked.

330
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So they are great.

331
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You know, she's sort of brutally horrible and all of that, but there is all of this stuff about progress in it.

332
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And then you get the brain and the brain is absolutely hilarious. you know, the great megalomaniac reduced to sort of being a rubbery thing in a in a jar.

333
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It's a Scooby-Doo.

334
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And it rants, you know, and the voice.

335
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What is that voice?

336
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It's magnus where the horror goes.

337
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It's a micro spice.

338
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Well, the lesser known Spice Girl.

339
00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:08.819
But it's actually, even more so, it's Gort, leader of the thugs from Captain Kremen.

340
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All the mice from hitchhikers.

341
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Yeah.

342
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Thank you snarky part, faster.

343
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He's terrific, and the brain on the floor is absolutely hilarious.

344
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Like there's that's homes.

345
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Do you know what I mean?

346
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Just being truly horrible and brutal.

347
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And I think that is Solon's best scene where he's picking it up.

348
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The greatest intellect destroyed by an animal.

349
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But he says Morbius's brain on the floor.

350
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I mean, yeah, that is the moment where they've gone as far rocky horror as they can without putting Philip Maddock in fishnets.

351
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So, but it's great.

352
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You know he's wearing them underneath.

353
00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:47.700
Of course, of course.

354
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They're very good for horse riding.

355
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And ask William Shatner.

356
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So it's grotesque and it's really funny.

357
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Do you know what I mean?

358
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Like, um, and but it's still, it's still a big threat.

359
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You know, Morbius is still scary.

360
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It's a large scale threat as usual played out in this small environment.

361
00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:09.059
Just like Pyramids of Mars was. you know, the entire universe was at stake in pyramids of Mars.

362
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Here, you know, we're resurrecting a long dead, you know, evil that was thought to have disappeared just like in periods of Mars.

363
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Only this time it's a time lord evil.

364
00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:20.519
You know, all of that stuff, I think, is really good.

365
00:22:20.579 --> 00:22:28.500
And so it manages to be interesting and enjoyable in a way I think that some stories earlier in this season aren't.

366
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:29.819
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

367
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Just something I want to mention about Cynthia Grenville and Gilly Jones, is it?

368
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Who plays?

369
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Who plays?

370
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They're actually around the same age at this point.

371
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She's got a lot of latex on.

372
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Really, I mean, not.

373
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It was lovely seeing Cynthia Gremble in the Doco on the disc and seeing just how little she's changed.

374
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But I believe it was either it was either Philip Hinchcliffe or the director Christopher Barry. who, while casting, saw Cynthia Gremble in the BBC canteen and came up to her and said, oh, I've got a part I would really like you to play on Doctor Who.

375
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You know, it's the head priestess of sort of a nunnery or sisterhood out in space.

376
00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:12.960
And she's like, oh, oh, oh, that's very interesting.

377
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That's great.

378
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Tell me more about the character.

379
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Well, she's this wizened old chrome.

380
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You should start going death.

381
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And that's where that comes from.

382
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In fact, one of the sisterhood does the choreography and we have our 1st movement for credit. sings Rosalind de Winter.

383
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The dancing is great.

384
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The dancing is wonderful.

385
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And what I think is really wonderful is when Sarah's impersonating one of them and can't quite get the steps around.

386
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So she's just doing the best she can.

387
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It's pump class.

388
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Coming back to something you alluded to earlier, Richard, with the psychedelic dancing, the overlapping sounds of sacred.

389
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Sad flag.

390
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With those overlapping, with the smoke going everywhere and the crossfades.

391
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There is something psychotropic about these sequences, you know.

392
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.380
And I think that's very clever on the part of Christopher Barry.

393
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.480
He directs this so so well.

394
00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:11.460
He was very unhappy when Philip Hinchcliffe cut it down to 60 minutes for an omnibus edition.

395
00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.539
He didn't think it should have been cut down at all, but he understood that was a practice in the BBC.

396
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:17.819
He thought he should have at least been informed and consulted.

397
00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:19.500
It should have been, yeah exactly.

398
00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:22.680
Yeah, because with the next story we're going to look at.

399
00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:27.359
Douglas Canfield did actually plan notes for a 90 minute version of the Seeds of Death.

400
00:24:27.420 --> 00:24:28.140
It never came about.

401
00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:31.380
It was never ordered, but he actually planned, I would cut this.

402
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:32.039
I knew arranged.

403
00:24:32.099 --> 00:24:33.839
No, it was actually called the Seeds of Death.

404
00:24:33.900 --> 00:24:35.880
Oh, sorry, until they realised they'd already done one.

405
00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:39.480
Newly formed Dwas, Doctor Who Depreciation Society. what a title.

406
00:24:39.539 --> 00:24:41.279
You've done that.

407
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:42.059
You've done that.

408
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:48.900
Yeah, tell Tom Spillsbury, that with the mutants. was Ian Levine's 1st go in the show.

409
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:49.859
All right.

410
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:51.240
And then he rescued the Darwix.

411
00:24:51.299 --> 00:24:52.200
We have a lot to thank you.

412
00:24:53.579 --> 00:24:56.220
On a few notes of casting.

413
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.880
We could have seen a few old faces back in this.

414
00:24:59.940 --> 00:25:09.539
So on the short list for condo were Stephen Thorne, which as much as I love Stephen Thorne, it would be a mistake in my opinion, to make him a henchman.

415
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:16.559
Well, I think it'd be a mistake, yeah, to have Philip Maddock, you know, out shouted by shouting on Stephen Thorn.

416
00:25:16.619 --> 00:25:18.359
And Bernard Breslau.

417
00:25:18.420 --> 00:25:20.460
Oh, no, that could have been a major return.

418
00:25:20.460 --> 00:25:23.759
And I think he was seriously on the cards, but he was doing something else.

419
00:25:23.819 --> 00:25:25.680
Isn't what's his name?

420
00:25:25.740 --> 00:25:26.339
Colin Faye.

421
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:28.319
He's an opera singer He's an opera singer.

422
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:31.680
And a bit like Shara's Jack in a few years' time.

423
00:25:31.740 --> 00:25:35.940
He was actually a very handsome man and they had to make him up.

424
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.519
And he rather enjoyed it because he got to do television.

425
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:42.299
And it was something very, very different for him.

426
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:49.559
But his vocal quality helped him push through the mouth prosthetics, yeah, because he had spaces in his mouth to give him a malformed jaw.

427
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:54.720
And excitingly, they used the same wig of condo's wig on Liz Sladden for K9 and company.

428
00:25:54.779 --> 00:25:55.619
Yeah, it was great.

429
00:25:55.740 --> 00:25:59.339
Solon, the shortlist included Freddie Jones.

430
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.500
John Bennett.

431
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:02.880
Oh, yeah.

432
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:04.980
Peter Cushing.

433
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.420
Oh, wow.

434
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.099
And Vincent Price.

435
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:09.480
Okay.

436
00:26:09.539 --> 00:26:12.779
I don't think they would have got Vincent's list, really.

437
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:13.680
But you know what?

438
00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:15.599
They probably could have got Peter.

439
00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:16.740
He seemed kind of game for anything.

440
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:18.660
He did Star Wars the year after this.

441
00:26:19.019 --> 00:26:23.940
And in the original Star Wars before Darth Vader took off as the villain.

442
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:29.339
Grand Morph Tarkin was considered the villain of that movie, and that's how it was marketed, that Peter Cushing was the villain.

443
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:33.480
That's what Lia says, you know, that he was holding Vader's leash.

444
00:26:33.539 --> 00:26:37.740
And of course, do we know the story of his footwear in that film?

445
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:43.079
His imperial his imperial officer boots.

446
00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:45.359
That's what he was known as his Imperial Heights.

447
00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:49.500
His imperial officer boots were incredibly uncomfortable.

448
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.140
So he only wore them in long shots.

449
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.759
So he would say to George, look, George, can you tell me when I have to wear these when you have to see them?

450
00:26:56.819 --> 00:26:59.400
And otherwise he was wearing pink floppy slippers.

451
00:26:59.460 --> 00:27:05.099
So all those close-ups where he was having to confront Carrie Fisher, one Carrie Fisher is going, oh, my God, it's Peter Cushing.

452
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:07.259
The other thing she's trying going, don't look down.

453
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:08.519
You're meant to be scared of this guy.

454
00:27:08.579 --> 00:27:09.240
Don't look down.

455
00:27:09.299 --> 00:27:10.799
Pink mules.

456
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.519
Do they have faces on them, little oinky piglets?

457
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.119
Oh, can we talk faces in a brilliant segue?

458
00:27:18.180 --> 00:27:20.940
Yes, of course, to that mind bending contest.

459
00:27:21.059 --> 00:27:25.259
So mind bending contest, A, has the stupidest name of any sport ever.

460
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.240
I just happen to have one.

461
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.059
And yes, we just happen to have that here.

462
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:31.079
I don't know why.

463
00:27:31.140 --> 00:27:33.299
I think he was drawing tea towels on it.

464
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:35.220
Yeah, no, I think that might have been it.

465
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:37.380
I don't know how that got Oh, picking up BBC 2.

466
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.220
The knights were sold on a long and dark...

467
00:27:41.220 --> 00:27:44.519
So he would just plug the brain into one end and have a go on the other end.

468
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:52.140
The big thing, the big continuity nerd thing, which I just refuse to care about, yes.

469
00:27:53.279 --> 00:28:03.480
Morbius cast the doctor back in time, and you know, he goes back to being per, you know, visions of pertry over the title sequence, so pertry, and then Trouton, and then Billy.

470
00:28:03.539 --> 00:28:09.839
And then you get these mysterious other people who are, you know, Graham Harper and Philip Hinchcliffe and Bob Holmes and stuff.

471
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:10.680
Christopher Berry.

472
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:11.759
People from the thing.

473
00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:14.759
And yeah, and Bobby's a nice old bird who makes the tea.

474
00:28:14.819 --> 00:28:16.259
She's there, yeah.

475
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.500
Goes back, you know, go back, back, doctor back.

476
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.819
And so these are clearly passed incarnations of the doctor and people have all said.

477
00:28:23.819 --> 00:28:26.339
Oh, well, Morbius is losing the mind-bending contest.

478
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:33.180
So they're past Morbius's, or they say they're all just younger versions of William Hartner, which really makes absolutely no sense at all.

479
00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:36.599
So it just must be intended to be past doctors.

480
00:28:36.660 --> 00:28:40.740
And so when Richard Herndle turns up and claims to be the original Doctor Who.

481
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.740
That's all clearly nonsense, obviously, in the 5 doctors.

482
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.140
But do we really have to care about that?

483
00:28:46.259 --> 00:28:48.119
Does everything have to be pinned down?

484
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:49.200
not Star Wars.

485
00:28:49.259 --> 00:28:50.640
It's not canon, you know?

486
00:28:50.700 --> 00:28:52.140
It's Doctor Who.

487
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.599
Anything can be true and everything can be true.

488
00:28:54.660 --> 00:29:06.599
Xander's rule, I think, is that in the Doctor Who universe, everything is canon, except noddy, unless the doctor was lying during the unicorn and the wasp.

489
00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:08.940
That's a very very good point.

490
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:15.299
I mean, the whole point about Canon, for instance, Star Wars with its new films coming up.

491
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:21.779
Lucasfilm has officially said, look, the novels, the comics are no longer considered canon.

492
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.740
Yeah, they didn't really happen in the way that the films really happened.

493
00:29:26.099 --> 00:29:36.900
But the thing is, they did it in a very tasteful way where they acknowledge, look, people have been putting these creative efforts in for so long, but we're making films, we want to surprise people and entertain people.

494
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.839
We don't want to make other people stories we want to make our own.

495
00:29:39.900 --> 00:29:45.539
So you can still enjoy those stories, but they're not in the same world as a film, which I think is a very sympathetic way to do it.

496
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.859
Doctor Who fans, when we argue about canon and continuity, It can get quite heated.

497
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:59.160
The idea I like about this is actually what the new adventures did because the new adventures, the novels from the 90s, did attempt to reconcile a lot of cannon.

498
00:29:59.220 --> 00:30:05.940
And what they sort of said is these faces were the being the doctor was before the doctor. the doctor.

499
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:06.779
The other, exactly.

500
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:15.059
And, you know, the other is still a bit of a silly idea, but it's an attempt to kind of do that thing of everything has happened somewhere and somehow.

501
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:21.480
And you've got to you've got to appreciate that sort of inclusiveness rather than putting your foot down and saying it didn't happen.

502
00:30:21.539 --> 00:30:32.519
Personally, I like the idea that the heads are Morbius, just because we don't see any of Morbius's other incarnations, but I'm not losing sleep over the idea that there are doctors before William Hartman.

503
00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:34.259
That's pretty obvious it's the doctor.

504
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.539
I think they mean it to be the doctor.

505
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:46.859
I really like that and I love how Morbius Wanders staggers off from the contest with like all this smoke in his head globe. pillowing out of that smoke. my terrarium.

506
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:48.359
There's a song that animated it.

507
00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:50.160
So Nigel Robinson's quiz books.

508
00:30:50.220 --> 00:30:51.779
They're also canon, aren't they?

509
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:52.440
That's right.

510
00:30:53.220 --> 00:30:54.960
And Gary Downey's cookbook.

511
00:30:55.019 --> 00:30:56.640
And Gary Downey's cookbook, that's Canon.

512
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.759
Travel without the Tardis by those 2 fabulous...

513
00:30:59.819 --> 00:31:00.420
Yep, absolutely.

514
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.940
Jean-airy and Lori.

515
00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:04.079
How oldelman?

516
00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:07.140
The the Michael Holt quiz book of science.

517
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:07.859
Yes.

518
00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:09.119
For instance, their Canon.

519
00:31:09.180 --> 00:31:10.619
I loved those books as a kid.

520
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:18.059
The doctor and Perry going on a picnic and we've only got a 15 ounce glass and an 8 ounce glass, but I'm only meant to have 4 ounces of water doctor.

521
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:19.680
How are we going to do this?

522
00:31:19.740 --> 00:31:20.759
You know what?

523
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:22.440
Those were the setup. say that life is short.

524
00:31:22.500 --> 00:31:24.059
I think it's inexorably long.

525
00:31:24.299 --> 00:31:26.099
Far, far too long.

526
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.460
So given that we have gone on far, far too long.

527
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.799
I just like to take a minute to talk about the end of the story.

528
00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:45.180
Now, I've said this season that I consider most of the stories either to have a really poor beginning episode and to build up towards the end or a really good buildup and to fall off at the end, like the Android invasion last week.

529
00:31:45.299 --> 00:31:52.500
I think this is one that starts as a solid 6 out of 10 with the 1st episode and has made its way to 8 out of 10 by the by the end.

530
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.359
It never goes down in my opinion.

531
00:31:54.420 --> 00:31:56.160
It's always really good.

532
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.539
And there are some moments I love from the last episode, which I just have to mention.

533
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.680
I did the whole of Hika thing earlier. nearly the sisters Maran.

534
00:32:04.740 --> 00:32:07.259
That is such a great rallying call because all the way through.

535
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:12.599
She's been saying, you know, we must act. and Burrow's like, oh, I don't want to.

536
00:32:12.660 --> 00:32:15.480
You know, I've got a sore heel and that sort of thing.

537
00:32:15.539 --> 00:32:17.220
I should have said, have your tea cosies off.

538
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.500
Some of them are also wearing tea cosies on their head.

539
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.599
I can see a cosplay coming up for you, Brandon.

540
00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:22.559
Yes, that's very true.

541
00:32:22.619 --> 00:32:27.359
And while the doctor does gas solon to death, Solon is not in a locked room.

542
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.819
Let's just point back.

543
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.140
So you're saying he had a chance to.

544
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.700
Yeah, you know, he could have left.

545
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.980
Morbius has tribbles in his lab, in his downstairs lab.

546
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.039
When Sarah calls him Chop Suey, the galactic emperor.

547
00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:43.079
See, that's a bit racist, I think.

548
00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:45.000
The doctor calls him a mongrel as well.

549
00:32:45.059 --> 00:32:50.160
I actually think it's, again, Holmes lazily failing to avoid being racist.

550
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:51.599
More of that next year.

551
00:32:51.660 --> 00:32:52.859
More of this race.

552
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.720
There's any doubt.

553
00:32:54.779 --> 00:32:57.660
I quite like the sisterhood with the torches.

554
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.359
It's a good inversion of the villagers attacking the Franco.

555
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:01.200
That is great.

556
00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:10.319
Because, you know, in that, the villages of the villains in this, the sisterhood are saving saving their planet and saving the universe from Morbius.

557
00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:13.200
And the magic potion saving the doctor.

558
00:33:13.259 --> 00:33:19.500
When I was a child, that was such a magical moment, the elixir saving the doctor.

559
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.140
I had the junior Doctor Who novelisation.

560
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.359
Yes, they did the junior novelisation.

561
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:30.000
They did, they did Brain of Morbius, and they did, um, giant robot.

562
00:33:30.059 --> 00:33:34.859
And I would just read that last chapter again and again and it affected me so much.

563
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:42.720
But I think my favourite moment from the last episode, Rod and I have been making our way through and watching the Mary Tyler Moore show.

564
00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:52.079
And that bit where they discover the air vent, and Sarah just channels Mary Tyler Moore, and she says, do you want me to get the what do you want?

565
00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:55.019
That's very Mary Tyler Moore.

566
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.480
And Mary Tyler Moore was big at this stage, of course.

567
00:33:57.539 --> 00:34:02.880
Now, I realise, and I'm going to hang a lantern on this for the audience, we are running out of time.

568
00:34:02.940 --> 00:34:06.779
We haven't really discussed the whole script situation, but it's pretty well known.

569
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.619
Terrence Robin Bland is actually Terrence Dix.

570
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:21.300
Terrence Dix wrote the script, went off on holiday, and the original script was this robot constructing an efficient but ugly body for a very vain intellect.

571
00:34:21.300 --> 00:34:23.760
And Philip Hinchcliffe went off the science fiction idea.

572
00:34:23.820 --> 00:34:27.239
He wanted it more Gothic, and therefore Robert Holmes...

573
00:34:27.300 --> 00:34:34.800
Holmes wanted it more Gothic, and Hinchcliffe said we just don't have the money, but he actually still wanted the spaciness, and that's why Hinchcliffe said I was very disappointed in the set.

574
00:34:34.860 --> 00:34:41.159
With the script, though. like Holmes makes it more Gothic and tries to downplay the science fiction elements.

575
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.420
And, you know, I think he's aware that any robot that they create is going to look terrible.

576
00:34:45.659 --> 00:34:52.019
Well, the thing is, this is where the idea for the Raston Warrior robot came from because that's what Terrence thought it would be.

577
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.539
It would be a man in a fill reflective bodysuit.

578
00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:01.920
And it wouldn't be sort of bits... and a bicycle helmet. and it wouldn't be sort of bits bolted on or anything like that to distinguish it from the cybermen.

579
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:14.940
And of course, Terrence then got the finalised scripts back from Bob Holmes and set off this wonderfully passive aggressive letter saying, you know, this is such a wonderful set of scripts, but I didn't write them.

580
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.940
And I, you know, I think it would be, I think it would be inappropriate to have my name on them.

581
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.980
Also, I'm not very happy about this.

582
00:35:23.099 --> 00:35:30.239
And well, he says, why don't you just take my name off and slap on some bland pseudonym?

583
00:35:30.300 --> 00:35:33.719
And then it came out as Robin Bland and he went, okay, Bob Ferrer.

584
00:35:45.780 --> 00:35:50.820
That is all the time we have for the brain of Morbius, but do come back next week.

585
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.480
We'll be finishing off the season, looking at the seeds of doom.

586
00:35:54.780 --> 00:35:57.780
Until then, do please check us out.

587
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:06.659
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588
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:11.159
Until then, may all your brains stay in your own glass jars.

589
00:36:11.219 --> 00:36:12.360
Thank you very much and good night.

590
00:36:12.420 --> 00:36:13.079
Good night.

591
00:36:13.139 --> 00:36:13.679
Thank you.

592
00:36:15.300 --> 00:36:20.400
That was flat to entirety with Nathan Botterley, Brendan Jones and Richard Stone.

593
00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:26.099
This episode, Philip Maddock in Fishnets, was recorded on the 11th of July, 2015.

594
00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:29.400
The next episode will be released on August 13th.

595
00:36:29.460 --> 00:36:32.340
This story often comes at the head of fan polls.

596
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.699
Sorry about that pun, but I'm sure you'll take it on the chin.

597
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:48.719
Hello and welcome back to Flightthrough Entirety, the only Doctor Who podcast whose flames are powered by powered wine weed.

598
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.300
It's Rhine Weed.

599
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:51.659
Yeah.

600
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.260
I tried saying that as well, and I can't.

601
00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:57.360
It's a very hard line. don't know why.