WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 16:38:31 1 00:00:30.539 --> 00:00:38.520 Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to Flightthrough Entirety, the only Doctor Who podcast who would much rather eat than watch this story. 2 00:00:38.579 --> 00:00:39.240 I'm Brendan. 3 00:00:39.299 --> 00:00:39.960 I'm Nathan. 4 00:00:40.020 --> 00:00:41.399 I'm Downton Abbey for this episode. 5 00:00:41.460 --> 00:00:46.799 Oh, and if only it were as good as Downton Abbey, it's Black Orchard. 6 00:00:55.859 --> 00:01:03.840 So, I actually think that episode one of Black Orchid is by far the best episode of the entire season. 7 00:01:03.899 --> 00:01:05.340 Brendan. 8 00:01:05.459 --> 00:01:11.340 You know how last week I said there's only one Doctor Who story I hate, but a 2nd one was working its way up there. 9 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:13.620 Black Orchids number 2 at the moment. 10 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:25.680 Now, that being said, I will say that I watched Black Orchid twice in preparation for this, because I watched it the 1st time with the production subtitles on, incidentally, the production subtitles for this are terrible. 11 00:01:25.739 --> 00:01:34.920 Like, there's instances of 5 minutes with no information, and that's including when the house is burning down. you know, not even a, they used a flame bar for this shot. 12 00:01:34.980 --> 00:01:36.060 Nothing. 13 00:01:36.180 --> 00:01:37.980 Andrew N. 14 00:01:37.980 --> 00:01:39.299 Pixley would be appalled. 15 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:44.400 But I did notice that both time I watched it, the 2nd time I watched it with commentary, which was far more entertaining. 16 00:01:44.459 --> 00:01:47.219 Episode one does zip by very quickly. 17 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.379 So that is certainly of benefit. 18 00:01:50.340 --> 00:01:54.659 Listen, I have my lawyers standing by, Brendan. 19 00:01:54.719 --> 00:02:00.299 And if you use the word tiresome, you know, take me out a very rich man at this point. 20 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:06.659 Let's go with what I like to start off with... 21 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:09.180 She's literally called mad. 22 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:10.080 She is called mad. 23 00:02:10.139 --> 00:02:16.919 And I, you know, I have to say there must be something up at Cranley Hall keeping people young because she looked great on her most recent tour as well. 24 00:02:16.979 --> 00:02:17.699 Really? 25 00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:18.419 Yeah. 26 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:20.039 Madge is Madonna. 27 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.680 Yeah, no, no, she's Madonna Crownley. 28 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:24.599 No, no, it's Madonna Crowley. 29 00:02:25.139 --> 00:02:27.840 Which actually makes that guy Richie. 30 00:02:29.939 --> 00:02:31.740 Poor bugger. 31 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:33.840 He hasn't had much of a career to speak, I really have. 32 00:02:33.900 --> 00:02:44.400 But I would also like to say, it's halfway through part 2 where the cast on the commentary realise her character's name is Madge, and they just can't speak through it. 33 00:02:45.539 --> 00:02:49.199 And you just get Jetta Fielding constantly saying, magic. 34 00:02:50.219 --> 00:02:53.400 Don't watch this story without the commentary, dear listener. 35 00:02:53.460 --> 00:02:58.319 Madge also bumps into the painting of her dearly dearly beloved dead son at one point. 36 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:07.259 So the painting, can I just say there are 2 sets of people who look identical for no reason? 37 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.780 Yeah, we've got twin brothers, but we're twins. 38 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.060 Actually, no, George is said to be older. 39 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.219 It might maybe just 5 minutes older. 40 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:15.180 Yeah, yeah. 41 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:19.500 Maybe they are identical twins because the picture looks like Michael Cochrane. 42 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:20.340 Yeah, yeah. 43 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:21.960 And the thing is, we've got a great cost in this. 44 00:03:22.020 --> 00:03:22.919 We got Michael Cochrane. 45 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:24.000 Weve got Maure Watson. 46 00:03:24.060 --> 00:03:25.919 He's wonderful. 47 00:03:25.979 --> 00:03:26.639 Well, yes. 48 00:03:26.699 --> 00:03:29.520 Well, of course, he's already been to the manor born in Cat Weasel. 49 00:03:29.699 --> 00:03:35.039 And we've got, oh, and what is the name of Madge? 50 00:03:35.099 --> 00:03:36.419 What's the actress's name? 51 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:38.580 Barbara. 52 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:39.479 Reichstart. 53 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.939 Barbara Reichstadt. 54 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:42.360 Yeah. 55 00:03:42.780 --> 00:03:46.800 Barbara Blitzkrieg before... 56 00:03:48.060 --> 00:03:49.020 Barbara Murray. 57 00:03:49.139 --> 00:03:51.060 I was like Cranley. 58 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:56.639 Moray Watson was Sir Robert Newer, because he was Cedric's son, Cedric's son and father, what am I saying? 59 00:03:56.699 --> 00:04:03.840 In Catweasel, upon which, as we've mentioned, J.K. Rowland, based a lot of the appearance of Harry Potter on Cedric. 60 00:04:03.900 --> 00:04:05.159 Oh, yeah. 61 00:04:05.219 --> 00:04:06.599 Not on Michael. 62 00:04:06.659 --> 00:04:15.659 And Moray Watson was also in the running to replace Patrick McNee, had he not come back for the Linda Force of the season? 63 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.060 along with John Woodvine. 64 00:04:19.259 --> 00:04:21.540 Both of them playing Patrick. 65 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.040 Yes, yes, that's right. 66 00:04:23.100 --> 00:04:24.180 As twin sisters. 67 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:28.319 Yeah, they were the 2 actors who... 68 00:04:28.379 --> 00:04:32.879 Variously screen testing with Wanda Ventham and Susan Engel and other. 69 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:33.540 Can you imagine? 70 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:34.980 Can you find that video? 71 00:04:35.100 --> 00:04:38.459 The video exists and is on the DVD collection. 72 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:39.600 There's no sound. 73 00:04:39.660 --> 00:04:42.779 Can we watch that before we... 74 00:04:42.779 --> 00:04:43.680 Yes. 75 00:04:43.740 --> 00:04:44.639 Good night, listeners. 76 00:04:44.699 --> 00:04:55.740 Yeah, so we have Barbara Murray, Morray Watson, and Michael Cochrane, all of whom, you know, quite big name actors, quite prestigious actors. 77 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:01.680 And they're shoved into this sub Miss Marple murder mystery with only one suspect. 78 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:03.720 With a lot of wind up their terrace. 79 00:05:03.779 --> 00:05:06.899 With a lot of wind up the terrace, you know. 80 00:05:06.899 --> 00:05:09.779 It's the worst lawn party ever. 81 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:15.540 And I'm, and I'm including Monty Python, Sam Peckenpath, salad days. 82 00:05:15.779 --> 00:05:18.000 Oh, it's just... 83 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.220 Did you were you waiting for that to happen, though? 84 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:29.160 I was wishing, I was wishing, um, I think it's one of the, I think it's the most charming episode of this season episode. 85 00:05:29.220 --> 00:05:30.600 I haven't got to episode two. 86 00:05:30.660 --> 00:05:35.339 The great clang of why this story ends up being Brendan's Nadir. 87 00:05:35.459 --> 00:05:36.420 It is terrible. 88 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:37.139 I agree. 89 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:39.480 But the episode one, I absolutely adore. 90 00:05:39.540 --> 00:05:40.860 Episode one is child. 91 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.600 It puts the doctor in context. 92 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.319 Finally, the postmodern wheel of fortune because we're is turned. 93 00:05:46.379 --> 00:05:50.040 The barrel girl has turned it nicely and it's now where the doctor should be. 94 00:05:50.100 --> 00:05:52.680 This doctor is not a man for all seasons. 95 00:05:52.740 --> 00:05:54.000 He's the Balante Tom. 96 00:05:54.060 --> 00:05:57.180 He only works in these sorts of stories. 97 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.339 In fact, I think this is the 1st time. 98 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.259 Am I crazy? 99 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:02.040 No, it's not. 100 00:06:02.100 --> 00:06:04.560 If we count, if we don't count the abominable snowmen. 101 00:06:04.620 --> 00:06:08.279 Is this the 1st time that we've gone to the earlier in the 20th century? 102 00:06:08.339 --> 00:06:09.060 No, that's crazy. 103 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:09.959 What am I talking about? 104 00:06:10.019 --> 00:06:11.100 Pyramids of Mars. 105 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:11.759 Pyramids of Mars. 106 00:06:11.819 --> 00:06:12.480 Where's horror factory? 107 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:13.560 It happens all the time. 108 00:06:13.620 --> 00:06:16.199 I'm an idiot Yeah, yeah, yeah. 109 00:06:16.259 --> 00:06:19.740 But you're not far off because it happens so rarely. 110 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:25.019 We don't get a lot of gorgeous German expressionism, so going back to it. 111 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:32.279 But we get a beautiful train, a beautiful railway station, lovely locations, gorgeous frocks, vintage cars. 112 00:06:32.339 --> 00:06:33.240 Cars. 113 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:39.360 We get a lot of stuff where the doctor, the doctor just comes and plays cricket for no reason at all. 114 00:06:39.420 --> 00:06:42.120 Astonishing you well. hilariously drunk. 115 00:06:42.180 --> 00:06:43.139 Oh, and Josh. 116 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:44.939 Janet's nice. 117 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.759 Yeah, she's really enjoying herself. 118 00:06:47.819 --> 00:06:49.379 Tegan likes daddy. 119 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:50.339 Yeah. 120 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.300 Well, her and Moray Watson, I've just wonderful together on the terrace there. 121 00:06:54.300 --> 00:06:56.160 I love him in the fun. 122 00:06:56.220 --> 00:07:01.680 I loved him in the black spot of Cursed Death pirate show with Matt Smith. 123 00:07:01.740 --> 00:07:02.519 What was that one called? 124 00:07:02.579 --> 00:07:03.899 No, no, that's Hugh Bonneville. 125 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:04.560 Same difference. 126 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:12.899 You know, even though it's sort of horrifically windswept. like having a garden party on the planet Castrio. 127 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:16.500 That's the episode title right there. 128 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:23.639 You know, it's miserable. 129 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:29.459 And Rick must live. 130 00:07:29.819 --> 00:07:32.339 Oh, doesn't he die on this one? 131 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.220 Mr. Creosote. 132 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:40.259 That whole thing about Adric eating everything is because Matthew Waterhouse can't dance. 133 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:41.759 No, it's actually true. 134 00:07:41.819 --> 00:07:43.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah. centio gravity is so low. 135 00:07:44.819 --> 00:07:47.639 It just spins on his shell. 136 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:51.120 But if he falls over, he does bounce back up again immediately. 137 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:52.139 It's amazing. 138 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:53.279 That's just off in backside. 139 00:07:53.339 --> 00:07:54.660 I mean, have you seen it, honestly. 140 00:07:54.779 --> 00:07:57.660 There was a young fellow of kings. 141 00:07:57.660 --> 00:08:01.620 But everyone's having a rack of toast without blubbing. 142 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:01.980 Sorry. 143 00:08:02.819 --> 00:08:05.279 Where the hell is Hugh Laurie? 144 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.199 Rowan Atkinson for this one. 145 00:08:07.259 --> 00:08:07.980 This is what we need. 146 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:10.860 Rowan Atkinson as Madge. 147 00:08:11.579 --> 00:08:14.459 Actually, no, Hugh Laurie plays a better woman. 148 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:15.180 You know you're right. 149 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.279 They should have played this for high comedy. 150 00:08:17.339 --> 00:08:23.220 They almost do, and I can see where you, because I, you know, I think Nathan and I probably are as one and that we love this. 151 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:24.240 I love this one. 152 00:08:24.300 --> 00:08:26.220 Just, it's still, totally charming. 153 00:08:26.220 --> 00:08:29.699 Until the frickin' day of sex machina, do not show them the TARDIS. 154 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:30.899 They show them the TARS. 155 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.480 The whole thing falls apart and I can't go back from that. 156 00:08:33.539 --> 00:08:36.360 So, no, bury it alive. 157 00:08:36.419 --> 00:08:38.460 Let the stinking corpse scream itself to death. 158 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:40.500 I actually think under the tennis court. 159 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:43.080 I think it falls to this at the cliffhanger. 160 00:08:43.139 --> 00:08:54.779 Giving the doctor the task of just wandering through corridors in a really attractive, um, sort of Patrick Stewart, you know, like he looks, he looks terrific in that dressing gown. 161 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.779 But that stuff is all boring and leaden. 162 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:17.100 And all I want is an episode where we go to a cricket match and then go to a lovely garden party where Tegan gets to dance to Charleston, where you get to see Sarah Sutton being like a posh idiot as Anne Tolbot, which I think is terribly funny, where the both of them dance, where Adrik is actually relaxed. 163 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:20.399 He's out of the wig, you know, like he's really starting... 164 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:21.120 You do get that now. 165 00:09:21.179 --> 00:09:22.379 It's called the unicorn on the wall. 166 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:36.600 Well, in fact, this, the unicorn and the wasp and the lodger, which has the football match, which is superior to the cricket match, because the football match has an actual kind of like a character thing going on. 167 00:09:36.659 --> 00:09:40.500 It's about the doctor being better than Craig at Craig's life. 168 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:42.179 There's something going on there. 169 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:46.080 Whereas the cricket match in Black Orchid is just spectacle. 170 00:09:46.139 --> 00:09:50.639 But just spectacle, spectacle's great. you know, it's enjoyable stuff. 171 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:52.500 It's needed in this season right now. 172 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:53.519 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 173 00:09:53.580 --> 00:09:57.600 We've had we've had and are going to have such boring things going on. 174 00:09:57.659 --> 00:10:08.759 So having people enjoy themselves in lovely frocks, you know, getting out of their wretched uniforms for an episode, all of that stuff is such a relief. 175 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:12.360 And I've got to think that Gareth Roberts really likes this story. 176 00:10:12.419 --> 00:10:24.960 I haven't heard him on the subject, but the fact that he that he rips things from it for both the lodger and the unicorn and the wasp has to indicate. 177 00:10:25.019 --> 00:10:27.360 And it does seem like the sort of thing that he would like. 178 00:10:27.419 --> 00:10:30.120 It's like eating a well-prepared meals ended. 179 00:10:31.740 --> 00:10:34.860 There is a lot of food for the soul in the story. 180 00:10:37.980 --> 00:10:43.200 The manservant who is murdered at the end of episode one, he's going to fetch a bucket. 181 00:10:43.259 --> 00:10:47.039 And they refer to the bucket again when Adrick goes in for seconds. 182 00:10:47.100 --> 00:10:52.679 So there's a very subtle joke in there that they think Hadrick is going to make himself sick, which I did rather appreciate. 183 00:10:52.740 --> 00:10:59.159 But, oh, this story, it's something we've talked about with Terrence Dudley's writing before. 184 00:10:59.940 --> 00:11:03.240 It's not enough of anything it thinks it is. 185 00:11:03.299 --> 00:11:04.919 It's not a sci-fi story. 186 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.679 Which, you know, it's fair. 187 00:11:07.740 --> 00:11:11.519 It's fair enough if, you know, it's fair enough if it's not a sci-fi story, if it's something else. 188 00:11:11.580 --> 00:11:15.600 It's not really a historical story because it could, it could be set in the 80s. 189 00:11:15.659 --> 00:11:19.799 You know, if it could be at a party in the 80s. 190 00:11:19.860 --> 00:11:23.639 There is nothing about this story that has to be set in the 1920s. 191 00:11:23.700 --> 00:11:29.580 It just occurred to me that this is a historical that I don't think would be better if it had a terra leptil in it. 192 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.779 Chin, Chin, it's the first. 1st one. 193 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:45.179 So the thing is, if we're going to go back in history and we're not going to have science fiction, we should have Gothic fiction, and it sets up to be Gothic fiction with the phantom up in the tower. 194 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:46.740 Love the big stuff there, yes. 195 00:11:46.860 --> 00:11:51.960 But it's not enough Gothic fiction, you know, because it just has this explanation at the end. 196 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.840 Oh yes, he's my disfigured son that we locked away in the attic. 197 00:11:54.899 --> 00:11:57.000 So right, we get these horrible people. 198 00:11:57.059 --> 00:12:05.220 You get these horrible people whose son has been horribly disfigured and attacked by primitive natives. 199 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.120 So, hooray for racism, but it's not, but it's 1926. 200 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:12.419 So you kind of go, right, this is a product of the time itself. 201 00:12:12.539 --> 00:12:15.659 I think that's just called revenge. on their part, yes. 202 00:12:15.779 --> 00:12:18.899 So let's not tell his fiance what's happened. 203 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:25.019 Let's lock him up in the tower upstairs because he's disfigured and mentally impaired. 204 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:26.639 That's the reason they're locking him up. 205 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:38.940 Let's then lie to his fiance and get her to get engaged to his brother under false pretences, and then let's punish him and whip him and abuse him when he steps out of line. 206 00:12:39.059 --> 00:12:40.559 Well, he did go to a public school. 207 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:42.779 He probably liked that. 208 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:44.580 And then, and then, right? 209 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.340 So over the course of the story, he kills Digby. 210 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.379 He kills Dy Tony. 211 00:12:49.379 --> 00:12:52.019 He kills James. 212 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:53.100 Oh, James. 213 00:12:53.100 --> 00:12:59.700 Madge then tells then tells Moray Watson. 214 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:00.779 It's the doctor's fault. 215 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.100 Take the doctor away. 216 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.220 Then she admits to him what is actually going on. 217 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.059 Yet at the end, they're going to the funeral and there's no sign they're going to prison. 218 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:12.360 It's rich people locking up the disabled, abusing them and getting away with it. 219 00:13:12.419 --> 00:13:13.799 It's the 80s. 220 00:13:13.860 --> 00:13:15.720 Yeah, it is awful. 221 00:13:15.779 --> 00:13:17.100 That is truly awful. 222 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:20.639 And what's also awful is that the doctor passes no comment on that. 223 00:13:20.700 --> 00:13:32.700 And what's also awful, though, is the fact that Nissa and Anne both get turned into sort of damsels industry. rapeyvictim.com. 224 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.279 Yeah, they're the susans in the drama, aren't they? 225 00:13:35.340 --> 00:13:35.879 Yeah, yeah. 226 00:13:35.940 --> 00:13:37.259 So they get no agency. 227 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:38.759 They just sort of hauled around the place. 228 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:42.960 And also Charles is so horrible. 229 00:13:43.019 --> 00:13:45.779 Like he's really, really horrible. 230 00:13:45.899 --> 00:13:48.000 And yet she's still on his arm at the end of the story. 231 00:13:48.059 --> 00:13:49.620 You've got it, though. 232 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:51.360 Money and equals charm. 233 00:13:51.419 --> 00:13:54.179 It equals gray, equals get out of everything. 234 00:13:54.179 --> 00:13:55.919 But I mean, if it critiqued that. 235 00:13:55.980 --> 00:13:59.700 If the story critiqued that rather than just presenting it as a sort of... 236 00:13:59.700 --> 00:14:01.080 It would be EastEnders, yeah. 237 00:14:01.139 --> 00:14:02.639 Well, no, no. would be good. 238 00:14:02.700 --> 00:14:04.980 That would actually be a good thing. 239 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.799 But instead, um, it just goes along with it. 240 00:14:07.860 --> 00:14:08.940 Yeah, exactly. 241 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:10.980 And, you know, the doctor says nothing at the end. 242 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.559 He just gets a copy of the book and says, oh, thank you, I will treasure it. 243 00:14:13.620 --> 00:14:16.139 Well, whoop de bloody do. 244 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.000 Other things enrage me about this. 245 00:14:18.059 --> 00:14:20.519 Charles pushes George off the roof. 246 00:14:20.580 --> 00:14:26.519 Well, okay, possibly, but it's not presented that way because he does have his arms outstretched. 247 00:14:26.580 --> 00:14:37.740 But at the same time, you know, if you weren't going to have that critique, have it as the characters learn a lesson and say, you know what, no, we're going to rehabilitate him and he's going to be part of the family again. 248 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:42.360 And Anne could say, look, I'm sorry, no, I still, I know he's disfigured, but I still love him. 249 00:14:42.419 --> 00:14:47.100 And that would that would kind of start to redress the situation. 250 00:14:47.580 --> 00:15:00.419 But you can't do that and you've got this, like, it's a Doctor Who trope that is really problematic, and it's been there all along, which equates disability and disfigurement with evil. 251 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:07.080 And here it's particularly bad because it's not, you know, Michael Wisher in a rubber mask or anything. 252 00:15:07.139 --> 00:15:12.240 It's like a person who's a member of the family who's been disfigured. 253 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:17.940 Yeah, and it's a person who they say, you know, he's been tortured by this tribe because he stole their sacred flower. 254 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.100 Then we're torturing them for a while. 255 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:21.899 But no one comments on it. 256 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:23.700 It just drives me insane. 257 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:29.879 I think it's Terrence Dudley is the racist grandpa of season 19. 258 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:33.179 The funny thing is, Terrence Dudley gets sci-fi. 259 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.940 He was the producer of survivors and Doom Watch. 260 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:46.379 Yeah, have you seen the season of survivors that he, I know that, I know that's horribly racist as well, but he gets sci-fi. except when he tries to write it. 261 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:56.879 I think there's laziness in this and the plot holes of what you're talking about rather than just being poor character or subsuming, we can't call it evil, can you? 262 00:15:56.940 --> 00:16:08.460 But there's subsuming lack of ethics or demorality. in the characters, it's actually just lazy, plot cohesion, that, again, it's using the diosex machina in the most literal sense of showing everyone the TARDIS to get out of them. 263 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.139 Oh, see, that's awful. 264 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.120 And they keep trying to do that for the rest of the season. 265 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:16.139 Then it comes to going, let me show you the shiny set that we have. you know, in the next year. 266 00:16:16.139 --> 00:16:17.879 It's my, it's so gorgeous. 267 00:16:17.940 --> 00:16:21.720 It's my greatest disappointment and it stayed with me to this day. 268 00:16:21.779 --> 00:16:30.000 It's the reason that Davidson era actually fails, honest to us so often, is because there's been no, because it keeps finding an easy quick plot twist away out. 269 00:16:30.059 --> 00:16:31.799 You know, there's one thing that I do like about that. 270 00:16:31.860 --> 00:16:34.799 I mean, I don't think you should have seen them inside the TARS. 271 00:16:34.860 --> 00:16:42.840 I think if they're going to go in the TARDIS, let them come out and go, ooh, that was spooky, but instead they all stand around doing a police procedural in the TARDIS. 15 minutes. 272 00:16:42.899 --> 00:16:51.000 But the really, the really fun thing is that the doctor takes them back to Cranley Hall in the TARDIS, which I just think is hilarious. 273 00:16:51.059 --> 00:16:53.580 And I love seeing the TARDIS materialise on the lawn. 274 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:58.919 But even then, right, if you look at the long shot, you can see that Moray Watson gets out of the TARDIS. 275 00:16:58.980 --> 00:17:00.240 He's actually still holding onto it. 276 00:17:00.299 --> 00:17:03.600 So he's acting, but we get Ron Jones. 277 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:04.980 And because he can, yes. 278 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:11.339 We get Ron Jones in his Doctor Who debut going, oh, I think I'll just film that in long shot with no close-ups. 279 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:13.019 Oh. 280 00:17:13.019 --> 00:17:19.019 And you know, Ron Jones, Ron Jones will return with Arc of Infinity Inventions on Baros. 281 00:17:19.619 --> 00:17:21.779 I hate vengeance. 282 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:23.880 And Mind Warp. 283 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:25.740 Yeah. 284 00:17:25.740 --> 00:17:26.819 You've got lots to talk about. 285 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:31.559 So, you know, it's not it's not like Peter Moffat, who is going to give up halfway through a story sometimes, Zoon. 286 00:17:31.619 --> 00:17:33.119 This guy's already given up. 287 00:17:33.180 --> 00:17:38.099 And just one more ranty thing that I'm going to say, then we can get onto other things. 288 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:44.220 So Anne and Nissa go to the party in the same costume, which is a wonderful idea. 289 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.880 The mask is a great way to hide the double, very convincing double. 290 00:17:47.940 --> 00:17:49.559 So this is all, this is all praise. 291 00:17:49.619 --> 00:17:51.000 Sarah Sutton's performance. 292 00:17:51.059 --> 00:17:54.119 She actually very subtly delineates the 2 performances. 293 00:17:54.180 --> 00:17:55.079 I don't think it's subtle. 294 00:17:55.140 --> 00:17:57.359 I think I think she's fabulous posh idiot. 295 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.000 I think she's... 296 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.339 But I'm, actually, I say suffer. 297 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:03.299 I should say believable. 298 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:09.420 You know, she creates a believable 2nd character with really only about, what, 20 lines over the course of 2 episodes? 299 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:10.440 No, she's really great. 300 00:18:10.500 --> 00:18:13.500 But the thing is, she says no one but no one can tell us about it. 301 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:14.640 Look, I've got a mole. 302 00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:15.180 Okay? 303 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:17.640 So we've got this mole, which Chekhov's mole. 304 00:18:17.700 --> 00:18:19.200 Check on the... 305 00:18:19.259 --> 00:18:20.279 We've never mentioned it again. 306 00:18:20.339 --> 00:18:24.839 You know, and then at the end, you've got the doctor saying, what's he going to do when he finds out he's got the wrong girl. 307 00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:27.000 So the doctor runs up and what's the 1st thing he says? 308 00:18:27.059 --> 00:18:29.160 George, that's... 309 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:33.240 And he doesn't say, look, she hasn't got the mole. 310 00:18:33.299 --> 00:18:35.640 You know, which would be the thing. 311 00:18:35.700 --> 00:18:39.779 And the whole thing she should have had like a, like, you know, like a foetus. 312 00:18:44.099 --> 00:18:45.779 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 313 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:46.440 With teeth. 314 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:47.519 Yeah, yeah. 315 00:18:47.579 --> 00:18:49.140 That how you would have told me... 316 00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:54.299 Beeble Brock's head. played by Janet Fielding as a watermelon. 317 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:54.599 Yes. 318 00:18:54.660 --> 00:18:55.680 It would have worked. 319 00:18:55.740 --> 00:19:04.619 You know, that whole resolution, it even starts to try to redeem George because when George realises that this isn't Anne. 320 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:06.299 He doesn't throw her off the roof. 321 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:07.920 He doesn't respond to her violently. 322 00:19:07.980 --> 00:19:11.640 He kind of goes, oh, like I've made a horrible mistake. 323 00:19:11.700 --> 00:19:15.960 And, you know, there's that whole language of give and treating a woman as a possession. 324 00:19:16.019 --> 00:19:18.779 But that's what Anne's been treated like for the whole story. 325 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:19.920 Totally. 326 00:19:19.980 --> 00:19:22.740 You know, one brother's out of the picture will give you to the other one. 327 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:24.299 He's identical anyway. 328 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:25.140 Yeah, exactly. 329 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:31.920 But that starts to redeem George a bit and it's like, oh, no, but for reasons we have to kill him off. 330 00:19:31.980 --> 00:19:32.880 Again. 331 00:19:33.180 --> 00:19:35.700 Screw you, Terrence Dublin. 332 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:37.079 That's what we do with these. 333 00:19:37.140 --> 00:19:37.859 Oh. 334 00:19:37.859 --> 00:19:40.680 Does Karen Dudley come back? 335 00:19:40.740 --> 00:19:41.759 No, yes. 336 00:19:41.819 --> 00:19:43.019 King's Demons. 337 00:19:43.019 --> 00:19:47.640 He does King's Demons, which is... actually better than this, but it is. 338 00:19:47.700 --> 00:19:48.960 Lots of fun. 339 00:19:49.019 --> 00:19:50.579 Tony Virgo. 340 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:54.539 I don't often use these words because I don't believe, but Christ Almighty, this is terrible. 341 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:59.400 It's, it's not completely irredeemable like the other story I hate. 342 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:01.019 It's because it should be so charming. 343 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:06.359 It is on some levels and it's an episode of Just William, really. in the same period and was just on a few years before. 344 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:07.980 Body and board. 345 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:08.759 Bless. 346 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:15.059 I want you to always, when you mention Bonnie Lanka coming up in her seasons, to only do her in a Brian blessing. 347 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:17.339 Bonnie Langfire. 348 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:17.759 There you go. 349 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:20.160 Some we look forward to. 350 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:23.339 Bonnie Langford has actually seen my time in the Rani cosplay. 351 00:20:24.779 --> 00:20:30.599 There's a photo of her holding it up in one hand and doing the screen pose in the other. fabulous. 352 00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:32.099 We have to put that up on the website. 353 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:33.720 We will, we will. 354 00:20:33.779 --> 00:20:45.420 But as I say, look, that's the end of my ranching and we've got at least another 10 minutes because I didn't want this to be all ranty, but in a moment we sort of, in a moment we cut out earlier, Nathan did say, but you're the happy one. 355 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:50.039 So chaps, I shall open it up to you. 356 00:20:50.099 --> 00:20:59.759 Well, I mean, I think I kind of think that we've covered it and there's a sense, Brendan, in which I think we might be on the same page. 357 00:20:59.819 --> 00:21:15.660 I think that the plot itself is terrible and that the resolution is insulting and embarrassing and really unlikeable, but I just can't get away from the fact that for once in the Davis and era, we're having fun. 358 00:21:16.019 --> 00:21:20.039 Matthew Waterhouse is relaxed. at other people's experience. 359 00:21:20.099 --> 00:21:21.779 No, they're locked up upstairs. 360 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:23.700 And we're having a lovely party. 361 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:30.299 This is where Janet finally gets it, I think, and she's enjoying herself. 362 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:35.700 She has decided at this point that she doesn't want to go home and that's a huge development for the character. 363 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:38.700 Everyone gets out of their uniform. 364 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:43.019 You know, like, I think that I found myself enjoying this. 365 00:21:43.019 --> 00:22:02.460 And now that I've watched all of season 19, I really was serious when I said, I think this is episode one is the best episode of the season, not because it's well written, but because there's lots of location footage that it looks wonderful, the actors are enjoying themselves. 366 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.319 I think it's fun to watch. 367 00:22:04.380 --> 00:22:09.059 And I think that Doctor Who could afford to be like this a little bit more often. 368 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:20.160 Um, At the moment it thinks it's a science fiction program with a sort of rotating cast of various monsters and things and that's only going to get worse and worse. 369 00:22:20.220 --> 00:22:29.160 And as it goes on, it's going to continue to appeal to the sort of people who enjoy watching people assemble machinery in time flight episode before. 370 00:22:29.220 --> 00:22:37.079 But But, you know, it's doing something bloody postmodernism. 371 00:22:37.140 --> 00:22:56.940 It's doing something that Doctor Who can do, which is play to the strength of the BBC costume department, do, you know, some of the best things that BBC television is capable of doing, which is sort of period pieces and giving us the chance to relax and have fun. 372 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:02.099 Um, and again, I'm going to mention Sandra for the fake in the event. 373 00:23:02.099 --> 00:23:16.559 Second week in a row, where he says that there's a problem with the plot in that the 1st actual murder has to come at the halfway point, which means that the actual murder mystery is crammed into 25 minutes where it isn't given time to work. 374 00:23:16.619 --> 00:23:22.140 But I'm grateful that it's crammed into 25 minutes and we don't have to put up with it for the 1st episode. 375 00:23:22.259 --> 00:23:24.299 I think it was the 1st murder happens in the 1st scene. 376 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:25.980 Yeah. 377 00:23:25.980 --> 00:23:28.680 But look, I absolutely agree with you, but the 1st episode is charming. 378 00:23:28.740 --> 00:23:38.039 I think maybe that's why I'm so cross because the 1st episode has this wonderful promise, which is utterly obliterated by the second. 379 00:23:38.099 --> 00:23:39.180 Yeah, yeah. 380 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:40.859 I think that that's probably wrong. 381 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:41.640 Yeah, so I agree. 382 00:23:41.700 --> 00:23:43.259 The 1st episode is actually really good. 383 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:46.859 And I don't mind the denouement. 384 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:53.940 I don't mind the buildup to the conclusion, and I think the wrestle on the roof is actually quite shocking and still a lot of smoke. 385 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.819 It's a lot of smoke and it still has an impact. 386 00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:58.980 Pardon that crashing point. 387 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:00.000 Even now. 388 00:24:00.059 --> 00:24:01.799 It's a terribly sad thing. 389 00:24:01.859 --> 00:24:03.900 And yes, the mother is a monster. 390 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:04.319 There you go. 391 00:24:04.380 --> 00:24:05.819 You did get your darel influence. 392 00:24:08.099 --> 00:24:16.319 Oh, um, something, Gareth Milne, whilst falling off the roof, pushed off a little too far, and his legs went into the concrete. 393 00:24:16.380 --> 00:24:16.920 He was fine. 394 00:24:16.980 --> 00:24:18.599 He didn't break anything, but he was... 395 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:19.380 In a wheelchair now. 396 00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:20.279 Walking funny. 397 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.619 Walking funny for a few days as twerks. 398 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.140 I haven't mentioned Matthew Waterhouse much. 399 00:24:25.859 --> 00:24:28.440 It's his only story without the wig. 400 00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:29.279 Is that true? 401 00:24:29.339 --> 00:24:33.059 No, I think I think he's he's still not got the wig next week. 402 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:39.299 It does, it's so nice seeing him out of that stupid pyjama thing. 403 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:39.900 Yes. 404 00:24:39.900 --> 00:24:43.920 And yeah, yeah, but he doesn't really cut a dash, does he? 405 00:24:44.339 --> 00:24:46.140 Well, he's not a costumian's dream. 406 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:51.900 No, no, but he is he's a bit relaxed and he's into play with the other characters is actually nice. 407 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:57.779 And I've been really critical of this TARDIS crew and I'm really not finished yet. 408 00:24:59.579 --> 00:25:03.180 But they're interactions at the garden party are really nice. 409 00:25:03.299 --> 00:25:04.799 They are lovely and very human. 410 00:25:04.859 --> 00:25:08.099 But I do get the feeling that he's the Prince's Astro of this season. 411 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.920 He was born to do one thing only. 412 00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:17.460 But that being said, also in this story, when Nissa runs off to do the Charleston, you cut back to Adric. 413 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:23.460 It's like, okay, now I see the thing you've been trying to set up for 3 or 4 stories that he kind of fancies are. 414 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:32.220 And I think there's a moment on Matthew Waterhouse's face where he actually kind of plays it that he is beginning to realise as well. 415 00:25:32.220 --> 00:25:33.599 And I think it's quite a fine moment. 416 00:25:33.660 --> 00:25:39.119 But then you cut to the commentary where Matthew Waterhouse says, Oh, God, what am I thinking there? 417 00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:41.099 I'm probably thinking when is the shot still going? 418 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:41.700 What's happening? 419 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:42.299 What's going on? 420 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:43.440 blows it. 421 00:25:43.500 --> 00:25:47.579 But, you know, to be fair, that's Doctor Who fanned a bit of nutshell. 422 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:48.660 We read these things into it. 423 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.819 Then the actors say, oh no, darling, it's acting. 424 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.839 But a performance should be a should allow you to have that kind of stuff. 425 00:25:54.900 --> 00:25:55.319 Oh, yeah. 426 00:25:55.380 --> 00:25:55.859 You know what? 427 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.440 But it's also, if they're going to do a soap opera. 428 00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:14.940 If they're going to constantly refer to previous stories, if they're going to link the stories together, you know, if there's going to be some kind of through line like what we saw last year, then do it properly, like think about the relationships between the characters, give them something to do. 429 00:26:15.059 --> 00:26:19.319 I love Doctor Who as a soap opera, series one of the new series. 430 00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:21.240 I absolutely adore. 431 00:26:21.299 --> 00:26:22.740 Still fresh, yeah. 432 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:38.759 And and it's it's because Russell gets long-running relationships between characters more right than not and and puts people and and interpersonal relationships in the show that have never been in it before. 433 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:50.640 Here, you know, you've just got a bunch of people who really have nothing very much to do with one another, who have no identifiable attitudes to one another. 434 00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:58.019 You know, like imagine if Adric had secretly been fancying Nissa all this time. 435 00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:01.740 I know you probably don't want to think about that. teenage boys. 436 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:03.839 You've been thinking about sandwiches the next month. 437 00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:06.480 Yeah, yeah, but that would be okay as well, but you get nothing. 438 00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:08.220 He's clearly getting nothing. 439 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.480 You know, Nisa has nothing at all to do most of the time. 440 00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:17.819 This is probably her best story to date because she's got 2 roles to play. 441 00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:19.319 You know, it's funny. 442 00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:27.900 JNT was constantly denying to the media that there was any romances written into the show because of the perception of, quote unquote, hanky-panky in the TARDIS. 443 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:32.880 It's like, well, if you don't have the possibility of romance, then you don't have soap opera. 444 00:27:32.940 --> 00:27:36.599 Oh, you don't even have drama, how did we get 9 years of the Avengers? 445 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.220 Yeah, yeah. 446 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.920 Or indeed, the history of romantic comedy. 447 00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:44.759 Yeah, yeah, we're just human existence. for God's sake. 448 00:27:44.819 --> 00:27:46.079 You know, Patrick... 449 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:47.640 And Ian Hendry is so hot together. 450 00:27:47.700 --> 00:27:49.559 Actually, they kind of are. 451 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:50.099 Yeah, they are. 452 00:27:50.759 --> 00:28:02.579 And you're quite right, actually, because, you know, Howard Hawkesall made buddy movies and gentlemen prefer blondes is just another buddy movie. just happens to be Jane Russell and Marilyn Monroe as the blokes. 453 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:03.900 Fantastic film. 454 00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:04.920 In Feathers. 455 00:28:04.980 --> 00:28:06.599 Haven't we all been there? 456 00:28:06.660 --> 00:28:12.599 I guess if you do, have hanky-banking in the TARD, if you just end up with Alex Kingston and Madame Covale, Larian, don't you? 457 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.940 You know what? 458 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.180 Conceptually, just having those actors is great. 459 00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:24.180 Oh, and actually, I think that's a really good description of this story. 460 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.619 Having these actors is great. 461 00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:33.960 Yeah, but the problem is there's no characters in this series, ongoing that I actually like all the characters that I like turn up for a story and go. 462 00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:38.460 So who would you like to stay on in this story from this cast? 463 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.640 From this particular episode well under? 464 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:42.839 So we had Neres last week. 465 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.579 Who would you know? 466 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.539 I mean, I think we have to have Barbara Murray just because she'd just slice and dice them all. 467 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:50.579 I don't think there'd be anyone left by the next story. 468 00:28:50.700 --> 00:28:53.759 You should have them all boxed in, tied to the delta wave or? 469 00:28:53.819 --> 00:28:55.619 I'm voting for Moray Watson. 470 00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:56.220 Me too. 471 00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:57.299 In that wig. 472 00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:59.940 In the wig. 473 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.980 He and Janet had just the most fabulous chemistry together, actually. 474 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.660 Actually, they sort of did, didn't they, really? 475 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:07.740 and she'd be up for it. 476 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:13.859 I'm just remembering him in interminably as um, in um, Rumpole of the Bailey. 477 00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:14.279 Do you remember? 478 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.380 He was played. was it? 479 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.200 Oh, it was the very dry old, old judge anyway. 480 00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:20.160 Yeah. 481 00:29:20.220 --> 00:29:21.599 Why not? 482 00:29:21.660 --> 00:29:22.920 Why not? 483 00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:29.039 And the wonderful thing about he and Janet bouncing off each other that way. 484 00:29:29.099 --> 00:29:32.039 And, you know, I'm going to get a bit personal for a moment. 485 00:29:32.099 --> 00:29:36.660 I am in a relationship with someone notably older than myself just to put that out there. 486 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:48.000 And in the media, you often see representations of relationships with age gaps as being about the young one is stupid and pretty, and the old one is having some kind of crisis. 487 00:29:48.059 --> 00:29:51.960 And that's why they're running after the young one and buying them things and whatnot. 488 00:29:52.019 --> 00:29:56.759 And that is not necessarily what a relationship with an age gap is like. 489 00:29:56.819 --> 00:29:58.980 Now, of course, this is Doctor Who in the 80s. 490 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:07.500 We're not actually seeing a romantic relationship between these two, but there is certainly a Frisson, and it just seems to be 2 people genuinely enjoying each other's company. 491 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:09.599 It's really nice to watch. 492 00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:11.160 Yeah, it's really nice. 493 00:30:11.220 --> 00:30:12.779 Just to see Tegan in a good mood. 494 00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.420 Yeah, it really is, isn't it? 495 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:24.720 And the thing is, you're not given any explanation for why she gets on well with him but doesn't get on well with the others and nobody comments on, ooh, look what's going on over there. 496 00:30:24.779 --> 00:30:35.579 It's an organic relationship in the middle of this very strange story of 2 halves, in the middle of this very strange season where people don't have relationships. 497 00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:41.220 Just I just want Tegan and this are to be sitting in there, apparently combined, but not always bedrooms. 498 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:47.099 Sometimes it's one room, sometimes it's too, just sitting on the edge of the bed, looking at each other, going, what the... 499 00:30:47.099 --> 00:30:49.680 Rick and hell are our lives about? 500 00:30:49.740 --> 00:30:53.279 Like those awful scenes in Star Trek, The Next Generation. 501 00:30:53.339 --> 00:30:59.279 Beverly and Indiana are doing like their pelvic floor exercises and discussing their lives. 502 00:30:59.339 --> 00:31:01.140 You want to know what that scene was? 503 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:05.519 That scene of Star Trek the Next Generation was originally written for 10 forward. 504 00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:13.440 But Gates and Marina got into a massive, stupid row on set the day before. 505 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.019 So the writers went, right, we're going to laugh them out of it. 506 00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.740 We going to put them in these stupid leotards and make them do aerobics. 507 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:24.359 And the thing is, Marina says, it worked, you know, by the end of the scene, we were friends again and we both apologised. 508 00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.779 Yeah, that's exactly what we need for Doctor Who. 509 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:32.460 We need the callisthenics deck, which would look like the Sistine Chapel, of course. 510 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.980 As you get Matthew in a layer time. 511 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.839 I'm not hearing a no. 512 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:40.200 Yes, you are. 513 00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:05.339 Well, dear listeners, next week, we're off to a set of caves to talk to a woman in a tango wig with Earthshock. 514 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.140 Please come back next week for that. 515 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:13.079 You can find us online at flightthroughentirety.com, flight through entirety on Facebook and iTunes and FTE podcast on Twitter. 516 00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:17.460 Surprisingly, not wearing a wig yet is Roger Moore over on bondfinger.com. 517 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:18.059 On a bit. 518 00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:19.140 Probably years. 519 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.380 Bond finger on Facebook and Bond finger cast on Twitter. 520 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.799 And I'm also not wearing a wig on Doctor Who in 10 seconds. 521 00:32:25.859 --> 00:32:27.839 Tried if you couldn't match the colour of my beard. 522 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:33.359 Until next week, may none of your undesirable relatives ruin your dismal garden party, you fascists. 523 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.519 Thank you very much for listening and good night. 524 00:32:35.579 --> 00:32:36.119 Good night. 525 00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:37.019 Good every then. 526 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.920 That was fled through entirety with Nathan Bottomley, Brendan Jones and Richard Stone. 527 00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:48.960 Theme arrangement by Cameron Lamb. 528 00:32:49.019 --> 00:32:53.819 This episode, the worst lawn party ever, was recorded on the 28th of May. 529 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.339 The next episode will be released on the 17th of July. 530 00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.500 I didn't hate everything about this story. 531 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:04.680 I quite enjoyed the missing scene where due to a misunderstanding, Adrik gets a cockateel in his bath, and then drinks it. 532 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.819 Black Orchid, 28th of May. 533 00:33:14.940 --> 00:33:17.819 I have opinions. work. 534 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:19.680 Black Hawk at the Musical. 535 00:33:19.740 --> 00:33:20.700 Are we recording? 536 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.740 It couldn't be any worse than what we actually get on screen. 537 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:23.579 Are we recording this? 538 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.500 Great, great tag right there. 539 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:26.940 Okay. 540 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:28.140 Stop metering. 541 00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:31.380 I really want you to rip this a new one. 542 00:33:31.500 --> 00:33:33.839 You're really the, you know, you kind of, you're the happy one. 543 00:33:33.900 --> 00:33:35.220 Oh, you know. 544 00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:36.359 Okay. 545 00:33:36.420 --> 00:33:37.559 Underworlds lovely.