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This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 16:49:56

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Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to the commentary series of Flight Through Entirety, the only Doctor Who commentary podcast who blurts out their plans in the slightest moment of stress and then gets shot by their accomplice.

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I'm Brett.

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I actually know, I'm Susan.

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I'm Barbara.

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I'm Ian.

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I'm a backcombed cardigan in danger of rapey incidences any moment.

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And that means it's our 1st commentary.

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I want to be Barbara too.

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It's our 1st commentary.

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Listener's choice in the heart in the era.

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Yeah, who frickin' chose this one?

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The majority of the 60 listeners who voted.

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We know each of you by name.

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We don't actually.

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Twitter doesn't give us any information, so don't worry, Richard isn't going to hunt you down.

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If you would like Rich to hunt you down, um, you can find him on Twitter at, at, uh, Richard, I think I've said 2 things on the entire history of the planet, you know.

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Can I be the Zentai suit guy, you know, the gimp suit guy that has a lovely holiday by the seaside and almost melts?

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Could be that guy.

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You thrills Toya Wilcom?

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of precedence in this one, isn't there, Todd?

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We're all together.

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It's like, honestly, the Blunovich limitation effect on your podcasty download device must be going off.

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Yes, but Richard, don't touch Todd could be dangerous.

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Oh thanks.

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Now, no one's mentioned my t-shirt.

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Richard is wearing a fantastic t-shirt that says you can't sit with us.

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Which wasn't intentional.

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Sorry, James.

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Regina George, 2004.

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Now, we do have our keys of Marinace DVD edition in the Blu-ray player.

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Yeah, Todd, you may not realise this, but the start of every commentary.

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We took over Brendan.

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Exactly.

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So we can't get started.

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And we are ready on the play all.

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Safe word for this evening.

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Our safe word for this evening is conscience.

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So the next time the next time I say that word, you are to press play, dear listener, so please get ready on your auto remote control.

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We're about to start the keys of marriage.

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You're actually going to like this one, aren't we?

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Well, I do like it, but we'll see how we feel in 2.5 hours time.

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We'll see how you... hour's time, dear listener.

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Oh my goodness.

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Okay, here we go.

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Are you ready, dear listener?

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conscience.

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And we're off.

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Doctor Who theme.

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So I would like to apologise for this because actually each of us was asked to nominate a Doctor Who story that we wanted to offer to the listeners as a potential sort of poll candidate.

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And I was the only person stupid enough to nominate a 6 part story where nothing very interesting happens.

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And I remember you did ask my permission.

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And I said, of course, it can be a six-parter.

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No one's going to vote for Mariners anyway.

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Yeah, I just remembered.

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Well, I think our listeners were doing it to punish us.

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They've been listening to our episodes and they wanted some way of getting back.

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The sea of death.

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That's actually a really beautiful model is graphic.

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I love this model shot.

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It's actually really lovely design.

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Oh, well, it's a model.

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It's a really lovely model.

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It is a model.

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Yep, the zoom is coming.

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It's only...

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Zoom into a painting.

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No, no, it's a monitor.

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Oh, you're right, it is too.

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You can you can just make the out the water.

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I can see the sea monkeys.

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Hooray.

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Oh, any radiation?

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It's Planet of the Giants.

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They're all really tiny.

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I, I, you don't have colour television.

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Oh, that was a bit crabby, wasn't it?

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Well, you know, they could have been taking a bit of a shot at ITV.

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Billy's done a lovely bit of backcombing there too, hasn't he?

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There's some really slicked down, isn't he?

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I love that bit where Ian says, is there any radiation?

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The doctor says nothing to speak of.

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And no one says, yeah, well, last time you said that.

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You lied.

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I just love that Jackie's cardigan, all the bombs cardigan looks like it's actually going to fit Barbarilla's space helmet because as Brendan would say, she's fabulous.

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She is fabulous.

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And I want that jumper.

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Yeah, she looks.

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She really is, isn't she?

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Oh, this is so exciting. pod races.

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Yes.

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Actually, we've just watched 4 bits of matchdick trace across the, but really for 63 with no budget.

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I think this is beautiful.

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I love it.

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On the making of this, um, Raymond Cucick discusses the problem with having, if you like, a budget for a single set of sets, but having to come up with 5 different sets of sets.

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Because Terry Nation had seen what they did, yes, with the mutants 10,000 BC Deadplanet.com and decided, oh, they can do anything because typically, as Terry does, what he did what Einstein did with the theory of relativity and worked it out on the backs of envelopes.

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However, more people know about Einstone than they do about Terry Nation.

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And I think that's important to remember.

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He certainly was someone who didn't really have much of an idea about what was practical or affordable.

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I think he knew anything about telebiogenesis.

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That being said, he did often cater to the designer by setting things in a blank featureless room or a blank featureless corridor.

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He did write that an awful, but that's 10 years before or 8 years before THX 1138 or Kubrick doing that whole beautiful...

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How can they not see it?

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Malory Archer.

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Actually, that's really raunchy.

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That's a word that young people can look up.

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By the way, the hills are really beautiful, very me now, and can I just say a little bit German expression?

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They really are.

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Isn't that lovely?

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I'm very happy that German expressionism is making its way back to the podcast.

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Well, in snake dance, some of us assume it ever left.

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I was gonna say something completely different.

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What were you going to say, Todd?

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Is this world?

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They've got this sand in this, we're about to find out this sea of asset, right?

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Oh, spoilers.

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Well, I'm stealing Nathan's lines here.

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And then, later on, we're going to be in all these, like, jungle of death and all this sort of stuff, right?

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Yeah, it's all on the same planet.

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That's no way to speak of Fiona Walker.

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I mean, it's not like we've got seas of acid.

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Yes we do.

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Yes, we do.

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It's called global warming.

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But we've got, but you know, you got, I love that this is actually the most realised world in Doctor Who, possibly of all time.

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And don't we wish she had paddled in it.

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Sorry, go on.

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I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

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It's lovely.

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What a planet.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But, you know, when you look at all the variation we have, that's set, by the way, boys and girls, it's beautiful.

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Yeah, I agree.

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That cubist modernist, it's actually, um...

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It's what Ken Allen would have done if he'd been at the ABC, isn't it?

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It's Ducharpe and Brack. fibreglass rocks.

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To sharpen Brock rather than rather than Picasso.

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And Brock was in fact, as was Duchamp, a heavy influence on both the Russian constructivist and then the German expressionists.

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And I think everyone, every time we say that, everyone at home should have a little drinky boost.

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We certainly are.

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Told was going to say something quite...

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Oh my goodness, isn't she gorgeous?

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We're not looking at Ian.

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It's acid.

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Like we could have had our 1st cast change right here now.

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So some kind of paddle in the orchard.

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What are we saying?

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What?

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Bye, Susan.

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I think we all know how much I celebrate the entity that is Susan in her entirety.

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I love Susan on every level.

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I think and I think she's fine in everything she does.

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I know I might be sitting by myself here at the end of the sofa, but Carol's not the problem.

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I can't say wrong with what she's doing.

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No, no.

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Carol is fine.

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She's just given very, she's given material that is beneath her ability.

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Well, she's also not directed but teenagers are annoying.

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Nathan, would you care to come with?

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I've got nothing to say.

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Hello, hello, students.

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If you look at early Star Trek Next Gen, people sort of said, oh, you know, we could have left for yours, by the way.

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You could have rent her yours and I'm chuckling.

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Billy Fluff.

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Billy Fluff.

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Oh, that's gorgeous. also a little bit kinky.

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Yes.

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Let's lock a person in this and see what happens.

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Especially with the fin.

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I never say no to a Finn.

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What am I doing?

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Hello.

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Hello, darling.

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Hello, darling.

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Nathan is gesturing hypnotically, like Mandrake, the magician.

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Well, we're walking around a lot of pointy things, and I'm actually getting a bit excited about Billy's trousers and also the fact that they don't ever bother dressing for alien landscapes.

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What has Billy done with his hair?

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It's fabulous.

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Well, Ian is still culturally appropriating cafe.

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He's looking good though.

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I do actually like his sort of he's gorgeous.

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Why she brought her wellies out?

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Because she lost her shoes in the paddling pool. give her yours.

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Oh, well, look.

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Why has nobody noticed?

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Oh, that's right.

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We now know it's actually a little bit djourous.

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We don't actually notice them when they walk past us from a foot away, you know.

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But that's the lovely theatrical...

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That's what theatre does.

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Every fricking Shakespeare thing.

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This is much more theatre than it is television.

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Which is one of the reasons why, you know what?

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I'm just, I do this now.

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I've spent the last month trying to get through Resurrection of the Daleks and look at this.

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I could watch this every single day.

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Stinky winky.

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Oh, by the way, Brenda, this is where you get to throw in the thing about Toya, because some of our gentle listeners might not have heard our erudite podcast on the Keys of Mariness.

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Toya.

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Toya Wilcox.

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Do we know the story or does Nathan want to tell the story?

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Toya Wilcox finds the cyberman sexy.

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Yeah, yeah, because...

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I tell it?

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Toya Wilcox, created, was the creator behind the Teletubbies?

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And her inspiration, for the look of them, was her very, very earliest memory of this story.

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Oh, right.

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And the gay one.

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Can I say gay?

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The gay one, the purple one who carried a handbag, whom she intended to be, the, you know, mixed gender, queer character, was based on a board.

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This Ford.

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This very board.

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So I just think a great guy to party with. very disturbing.

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It really is, and that is a beautiful piece of architecture.

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Look, I've heard so demurring for the kids at home and, you know, we're doing stuff like that right now.

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I believe that was accomplished by an inlay shot, which is an early version of colour separation overlay.

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There's no colour, of course, so you don't use colour separation overlay.

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Oh, kind of masking effect.

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Sorry, to speak over you.

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Isn't that a good, this is what we do.

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Isn't that a gorgeous reinterpretation of the Dalek corridors, but in cubism.

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That is beautiful.

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Now, we're coming up on one of my favourite early educational moments of the series.

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Now, we had an educational moment early from Barbara, and because it's Barbara, she pulled it off brilliantly, she just said, this is a tidal pool.

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So the whole scene must be acid.

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Instead of saying, this is a title pool, and title pools come from the scene.

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There's a knife.

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Now, the thing is, I think Carol there, Carol is being very cautious.

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I think she's playing it like she's already a bit psychic because she expected to be psychic.

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That's the thing.

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She was going to leave next year.

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You can tell.

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She knew it was all going to go nowhere.

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So the acid C is a defence thing.

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It's not that the whole planet has acid scene. just want to keep the viewers at bay.

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Oh, it's just around this island. just a conscience.

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It's like a scene smoking area.

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You have to remember I wasn't here.

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No, that's true. when you did this.

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So I actually, you were refusing to listen to it back then.

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Oh, it's more common wise.

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That's what happens if you refuse to listen to the podcast.

243
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Okay, I have to say this, I've never been a fan of this story, but watching this now, the lighting, the subtlety of the direction.

244
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Please go and watch Dr. Kaligari, the cabinet of Dr. Kaligari, dear listener.

245
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Here we come, educational moments, excitement.

246
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Educational moments.

247
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No mortar.

248
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It must have been built with tremendous accuracy.

249
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I'm not sure about that.

250
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Egyptians did it.

251
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Okay, here. other people as well.

252
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And Lego works the same way.

253
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Oh, God.

254
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Excuse me, I think this is fascinating.

255
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Oh, yeah, but we...

256
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And the city of the Excelons is built this way.

257
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William Russell's delivery bear is appalling.

258
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Who has the prettiest hair?

259
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Let's play this drinking game in each scene.

260
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Do this, man.

261
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Who has the prettiest hair?

262
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I think it's up between Billy and Babs and I think Billy might be winning.

263
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Barbara's winning.

264
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It's not Susan, and Vidalsa soon designed Susan's hair.

265
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We all know.

266
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Sorry, we all know that Susan's haircut cost as much as the budget of the 1st episode.

267
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Oh, the fish she goes.

268
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This is actually Batman.

269
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Three years earlier.

270
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Susan.

271
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And that wagging.

272
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The ragging paint effect on the walls is beautiful.

273
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Grandfather.

274
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Revolving door.

275
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At least... at least for once you're meant to see a hand.

276
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Sorry, Richard.

277
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It's stopping them from walking into the painted little back.

278
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So this is all one take, one shot to F. only ever been viewed the once.

279
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And sadly, you know, they missed, they missed the camera cut there by 5 frames.

280
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Boom shadow.

281
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You aren't even going to see this once on a screen, the size of what, an iPad?

282
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Pretty if you're lucky, yeah.

283
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If you're lucky.

284
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Considering they had to get extraordinary.

285
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They had to get 23 minutes of material in the can in 75 minutes.

286
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Oh, good.

287
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Are you sure?

288
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Oh, sorry.

289
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And also, most of you listeners are too young to be watching this.

290
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This is really... give it 4 or 5 years of hormonal induction.

291
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You kids are going to get really excited watching this.

292
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You know what?

293
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I'm just talking to my fellow podcasters.

294
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I 1st came to this story when I was 12.

295
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Yes.

296
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A friend of mine had a big Doctor Who collection.

297
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Oh, that is really by the social scary, depending on where you are.

298
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Oh, no, that's an iconic shot though.

299
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Oh.

300
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Oh.

301
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And suddenly we're Mel Brooks.

302
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Oh Oh, and oh.

303
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Now, it's very important.

304
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Unfortunately, it's Archer, isn't it?

305
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It's very important, Arbitan, that you don't say anything here that might alert her to the fact that you're not going to kill her.

306
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But then again, he doesn't know that yet.

307
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He also doesn't know what she's up to.

308
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She might be part of the hoard incursion.

309
00:14:33.419 --> 00:14:35.639
So, Brendan, you came to this story when you were 12.

310
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Yeah, yeah, a very good friend of mine, had contacts in the UK and so gave me like an 8th generation copy of this.

311
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Oh, that's how we all discovered these things.

312
00:14:45.899 --> 00:14:48.480
I didn't see it in decent quality until I got the DVD.

313
00:14:48.539 --> 00:14:56.340
So my memory of this story is that Barbara is currently sitting in a white void. is no detail. entirely.

314
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That's right.

315
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That's beautiful.

316
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Scream along with Barbara.

317
00:15:03.779 --> 00:15:07.740
I just love that Ian's wearing his piggy gym gems.

318
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Also, that's hot.

319
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And kinky.

320
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This is the British disgust, invented kink long before the Germans, well, the British are just a German racing.

321
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Pretty screens.

322
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I'll be talking about the sets for the rest of the time.

323
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I told what we're talking about.

324
00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:28.740
There are any number of sets actually here this in this story, aren't they?

325
00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.840
I mean, we We're all busting to say something.

326
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We'll save the budget out.

327
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But I didn't mean it's never been done before, like to have this sort of action adventure.

328
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Yeah, this week out.

329
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Like, you know, like a movie, really.

330
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Actually, that's true.

331
00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:47.580
What BBC show had experimented at this level, at this level of expectation of production.

332
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Well, you know, I mean, there is this thing and it's kind of a bit of a commonplace where we, you know, the show gets packaged up and we buy it on DVD and it's a certain number of episodes.

333
00:15:58.740 --> 00:16:02.159
But, you know, this series isn't that.

334
00:16:02.220 --> 00:16:04.080
There's no on-screen keys.

335
00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:08.159
Yeah, we don't know when it's going to end.

336
00:16:08.220 --> 00:16:12.360
Our idea that it's a six-part story is like something that we impose on it later.

337
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A bit of wrestling.

338
00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.100
Oh, look at the lighting.

339
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How do they get lighting?

340
00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.139
This subtle and this beautiful in one go.

341
00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:38.759
These boys really know, and I'm say boys because there weren't many women, but that, oh, also, okay, I'm going to get really doll, but there, um, Tom Bass was um, a world-renowned sculptor who worked in Sydney and my mother used to float with him and um, that is so doable.

342
00:16:38.820 --> 00:16:40.500
And he's too...

343
00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:44.220
But that wall. is exactly like Tom Bass's sculptures.

344
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There's some really beautiful set.

345
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This is Cusick, isn't it?

346
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This is Q. I think he's one of the greatest people to work on TV.

347
00:16:50.700 --> 00:16:52.440
And I think he's better than Ridley Scott.

348
00:16:52.500 --> 00:16:54.659
And my friends have just been working on alien covenant.

349
00:16:54.720 --> 00:17:00.720
Did I tell you, I've stomped around the sets of the navigator thing which is 40 feet high.

350
00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.659
It's not as good as Roman Cucick.

351
00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:08.940
It actually does look like the detailing of a sort of office from the 1960s that my father might.

352
00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.619
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

353
00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:11.460
It is really true.

354
00:17:11.579 --> 00:17:21.180
If you're that keen and truly tragic and want to go to York Street behind the QVB in Sydney, Newton's Pharmacy, look it up online.

355
00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:37.859
There is a beautiful piece of sculpture that's still left. 2 walls are exactly, and I would swear to whatever god you worship, that based on this wall here, you can go and touch and feel and pretentious fallback. throw yourself backwards.

356
00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:39.359
There are 2 bars right nearby.

357
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Throw yourself backwards.

358
00:17:40.619 --> 00:17:45.059
Yes, there are 2 sculptural clay walls that are exactly like that.

359
00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:46.200
Oh, sliding doors.

360
00:17:46.259 --> 00:17:52.559
And there are sort of rotating panels just next to them and you can fall in hilariously and go, ah, and this...

361
00:17:52.619 --> 00:17:56.279
We should just call this the minutiae podcast.

362
00:17:56.339 --> 00:17:58.200
It's a dodecahedron.

363
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It was the Dodecahedron all the time.

364
00:17:59.819 --> 00:18:02.400
Are the board are the board native to this planet?

365
00:18:02.460 --> 00:18:03.660
Like are there 2 different species?

366
00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:05.880
No, they're the alien Vord Tods.

367
00:18:05.940 --> 00:18:06.839
Pay attention.

368
00:18:06.900 --> 00:18:09.180
Well, Yartik was leader.

369
00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:10.859
He was leader of the alien board.

370
00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:11.759
Surely they're alien.

371
00:18:11.819 --> 00:18:14.579
But alien can also mean as we use alien from another country.

372
00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:18.660
So you don't think it means from a different planet other than Marinace?

373
00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:19.980
I think you think it's Brexit.

374
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The thing is...

375
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The way Arbiton describes them.

376
00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:27.900
It sounds like they are interior rebels, if you like.

377
00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:31.799
They've rebelled against the conscience because the conscience only influences mariners.

378
00:18:31.859 --> 00:18:37.140
So if the vaud weren't on mariners, why would they be affected by the conscience?

379
00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:46.380
But then later on, in spoiler alert, poor old George Caluras here is going to cop it pretty sort of seriously.

380
00:18:46.380 --> 00:18:50.099
And then Yardec alien, leader of the alien board.

381
00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:51.839
He's going to put his frock on.

382
00:18:51.900 --> 00:18:55.200
But Yanitech doesn't take his hat off, does he?

383
00:18:55.259 --> 00:18:56.279
So, that's true.

384
00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:57.660
So, Sarcotic?

385
00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:00.059
There's some great yachtic bum action, right?

386
00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:02.519
He looks quite poorly.

387
00:19:02.579 --> 00:19:03.960
He's not long for this world, I don't think.

388
00:19:04.019 --> 00:19:17.640
You know, I love that George Caluras is dressed like a Greek Orthodox drag queen in a B. Arthur bathrobe and Ben Herr necklace.

389
00:19:17.700 --> 00:19:18.839
It's kind of working for me.

390
00:19:18.900 --> 00:19:24.660
Have we mentioned that Calurus was part of Awesome Wells Mercury Theatre?

391
00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:31.500
and was a compatriot with both Patrick Magoon, Agnes Smallhead.

392
00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.140
And yes, Andora from Bewitched.

393
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And, um...

394
00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:40.619
So we like 3 degrees of separation away from Agnes Moorhead just watching this. worship that one.

395
00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:41.220
I do too.

396
00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:47.160
When I was 6 years old, I made the neighbourhood boys play bewitched and I always got to be Endora much like this podcast.

397
00:19:47.220 --> 00:19:47.640
Do you know?

398
00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:49.319
I actually did.

399
00:19:49.380 --> 00:19:51.839
They don't talk to me to this day. were you?

400
00:19:51.900 --> 00:19:55.440
What a beautiful relationship we could forge on that very basis right now.

401
00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:59.039
I'll just hover on the on the curtain rail and tell you what.

402
00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:00.720
I might have been married. 2nd Darren.

403
00:20:00.779 --> 00:20:02.220
Yeah, I'd be the 1st Darren. think.

404
00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:04.019
I like both Darren.

405
00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:05.160
There's a podcast.

406
00:20:05.339 --> 00:20:07.559
What do I feel about this set?

407
00:20:07.619 --> 00:20:09.240
Sorry, I want to go back to this too.

408
00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:10.380
Yeah, sure.

409
00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.180
This set is beautiful.

410
00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.900
The Dodecahedron being the 5th platonic solid is a gorgeous creation and I think looks beautiful in black and white.

411
00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:23.940
And sadly, because the budget was so stretched, there are so few set photos.

412
00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.980
They couldn't, they could hardly afford.

413
00:20:26.099 --> 00:20:28.079
Where was that man person?

414
00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:28.859
What's his name?

415
00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:29.460
John Curris?

416
00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:30.480
John Kura?

417
00:20:30.539 --> 00:20:31.319
John Kira.

418
00:20:31.380 --> 00:20:33.839
Well, he got tele snaps, but he didn't get sick photos.

419
00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:34.440
Yeah.

420
00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:36.599
We do actually have the video.

421
00:20:36.660 --> 00:20:37.859
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

422
00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:39.299
I'm not quite sure where Brendan's coming from.

423
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:40.019
Is he still in the room?

424
00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:41.279
I'm not sure where Brendan's coming from.

425
00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:41.819
Oh, no, no.

426
00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:44.519
I'm just saying you know, we were talking about how beautiful this set was.

427
00:20:44.579 --> 00:20:48.180
You know, imagine if we had a picture of the set with no one on there.

428
00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:52.619
I know it sounds like we're trying to make you listen to this podcast, but honestly...

429
00:20:52.740 --> 00:20:53.519
I actually feel it.

430
00:20:53.579 --> 00:20:54.720
Yeah, but you could turn off at any time.

431
00:20:54.779 --> 00:20:58.200
I just love the way I just love the way that, you know, we're not going to help you.

432
00:20:58.259 --> 00:20:58.920
We're going for it.

433
00:20:58.980 --> 00:20:59.700
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

434
00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:02.339
No, no, but he's an evil fascist.

435
00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:03.059
I know that, man.

436
00:21:03.059 --> 00:21:04.259
Which one?

437
00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.059
Todd, just because he lives over the bridge.

438
00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:09.420
Remember, as I said on...

439
00:21:09.420 --> 00:21:10.559
What's happening?

440
00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:13.079
This is the sound of me rubbing Todd.

441
00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:21.660
Remember, as I said on Doctor in 10 seconds and therefore it must be true, this is a story about the thought police versus rubber fetishists.

442
00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.279
Oh, hello.

443
00:21:23.339 --> 00:21:24.480
Could I have some of that wine?

444
00:21:24.539 --> 00:21:27.480
Oh, I love the miming.

445
00:21:27.539 --> 00:21:28.079
I love this.

446
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.480
Oh, thank you for cleaning us up.

447
00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:31.859
Invisible barrier.

448
00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.799
I think I think it's terrible.

449
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.160
Oh, this is terrible.

450
00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.440
Here goes Carol Anne stepping through the barrier.

451
00:21:40.500 --> 00:21:42.240
Yes, it's Marcel.

452
00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:43.319
It's such a pity.

453
00:21:43.380 --> 00:21:45.660
It's not a barrier like in, what's that story?

454
00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.059
The ponds instead.

455
00:21:48.059 --> 00:21:49.559
She could have blowed up.

456
00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:52.259
There she is stepping right inside the barrier.

457
00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:54.000
At this point, is Billy not your favourite doctor?

458
00:21:54.059 --> 00:21:54.720
Just look at him.

459
00:21:54.779 --> 00:21:56.940
Well, at this point...

460
00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.319
Yes, we can do this.

461
00:21:58.380 --> 00:21:59.099
Yes, yes, always.

462
00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:00.059
I'll stop it, you two.

463
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:01.500
But he's yes, see?

464
00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:02.519
Really?

465
00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:05.519
I'm sorry, you'll force me...

466
00:22:05.579 --> 00:22:06.599
It's really theatrical.

467
00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:07.259
That's the thing.

468
00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:13.380
And it's all my, and it is a little bit panto, but, but, there's nothing like it on television.

469
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:14.759
No, absolutely not.

470
00:22:14.819 --> 00:22:15.359
Absolutely not.

471
00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:16.140
Look at him.

472
00:22:16.140 --> 00:22:16.920
He's extraordinary.

473
00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:18.240
Yeah, eye acting.

474
00:22:18.299 --> 00:22:19.680
I acting...

475
00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.700
Thumb acting.

476
00:22:20.700 --> 00:22:21.420
Thumb acting.

477
00:22:21.420 --> 00:22:22.019
Thumb acting.

478
00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:23.579
But, you know, Professor Quatermass.

479
00:22:23.579 --> 00:22:24.539
Good hair, Barbara.

480
00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:28.019
Professor Quatermass doesn't have this range of light and dark.

481
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:28.920
Hasn't got ranged.

482
00:22:28.980 --> 00:22:29.640
Hasn't got the range.

483
00:22:29.700 --> 00:22:32.279
Also, even Ian's got back combing.

484
00:22:32.339 --> 00:22:35.700
Oh, well, yes, you're going to have to go now.

485
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:36.779
Oh, that's beautiful.

486
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:38.400
Now, there's there's a great thing.

487
00:22:38.460 --> 00:22:42.960
And I think you can still get it online..

488
00:22:43.019 --> 00:22:44.099
I'm impressed.

489
00:22:44.339 --> 00:22:47.460
Actually, Barbara is Billy, Billy is Barbara.

490
00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:49.200
That is brilliant.

491
00:22:49.259 --> 00:23:01.680
Well, remember, way back in, way back in the Daleks, when it's Ian saying to, it's Ian saying we have to give them their own incentive to fight, it's the Dr. and Barbara saying, no, we can just use them to get the fluid link, bugger them.

492
00:23:01.740 --> 00:23:03.420
Bugger what the files want.

493
00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:03.900
We don't care.

494
00:23:04.019 --> 00:23:05.460
We just... those styles.

495
00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.500
Not the 1st person to sit and voice such a sentiment.

496
00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:08.460
Herm erotic.

497
00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:13.980
Now, there's a there's a rather wonderful download you can get somewhere online.

498
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.980
We won't link to it because that would involve listening back to this.

499
00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:21.480
But it's called the it's called the Wonderful Book 1964.

500
00:23:21.660 --> 00:23:22.799
Oh, we love that.

501
00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:26.519
You may remember that Clayton Hickman did the brilliant books of Doctor Who.

502
00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:28.440
This is the people behind...

503
00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:29.400
Yeah, the bachelor.

504
00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:30.660
We talked about them before, I think.

505
00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.059
Yeah, That was going to pass fly.

506
00:23:33.180 --> 00:23:35.759
But this is...

507
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:37.619
Help me, listeners. don't know. what's going on.

508
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:39.240
Really cute, fake annual.

509
00:23:39.299 --> 00:23:39.960
There goes Barbara.

510
00:23:40.019 --> 00:23:41.099
Oh, she's gone.

511
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.660
It's a fake animal.

512
00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:48.059
It's a fake annual based around the 1st year of Doctor Who and it has that map of marinace.

513
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.880
They've they've screen captained...

514
00:23:50.940 --> 00:23:56.700
They've redesigned it and it's a holiday brochure. come to visit Meredith. fantastic.

515
00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:03.240
Done by mainly the person who does the wonderful velvet jacket DVD covers website.

516
00:24:03.299 --> 00:24:04.740
There they go. split screen.

517
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.859
Oh, for the sake of all my people call.

518
00:24:08.099 --> 00:24:09.480
He means Greece. very modern actually.

519
00:24:09.539 --> 00:24:12.059
No, no, it's quite a political take.

520
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:17.099
He means for the sake of controlling all of my people with a giant dodeckahedron computer.

521
00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.319
I'm so sorry old man.

522
00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:20.400
No, I want him to die.

523
00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:24.299
Todd, what do you think about the character of Arberton?

524
00:24:24.299 --> 00:24:27.539
Because there's some really interesting...

525
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:29.519
There's...

526
00:24:29.579 --> 00:24:39.720
There's some really interesting ethical, let alone moral questions on whether Arbiton actually has the right to be doing what he's doing right now personally.

527
00:24:40.259 --> 00:24:43.799
I'm sorry, I think that's the moral quantity.

528
00:24:43.859 --> 00:24:46.799
Solve dry blood may have been sorry.

529
00:24:46.859 --> 00:24:48.299
That sums up, I'll think of it.

530
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.339
For the 1st, oh, that wall.

531
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.259
Isn't that Serverland's office?

532
00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:53.099
No, no, it is.

533
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.240
It's not that yet.

534
00:24:54.299 --> 00:24:55.619
It's an Edrick's bedroom.

535
00:24:57.059 --> 00:24:59.460
Those are equilateral triangles.

536
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:00.900
Uncle Hendrix's bedroom, by the way.

537
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:14.160
But for the 1st time in my life at this age, and understanding what's happening in the world and what's happened with Brexit, what's happening with most voters voting against the major parties, and actually on the side of the board.

538
00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:15.480
Me too.

539
00:25:15.539 --> 00:25:16.200
Yeah, me too.

540
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:21.240
Why is state control of people's sensibilities an okay thing?

541
00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:24.180
And at which point are we going to get chips implanted now?

542
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.059
Because we're Terry Nation and we're kind of crypto fascist.

543
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.279
We're old and crypto fascists.

544
00:25:29.339 --> 00:25:32.579
Yeah, and writing for more common wise.

545
00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:34.559
He was a comedy writer, as you know.

546
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.180
Well, you do Hancock and stuff?

547
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.220
He did. you phrasing?

548
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.980
I don't think we're still doing phrasing.

549
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:42.480
Who did MacGyver?

550
00:25:42.539 --> 00:25:43.079
that a comedy?

551
00:25:43.140 --> 00:25:45.180
Oh my goodness, he did too.

552
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:46.440
I can just see mullets.

553
00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:48.180
It's kind of like...

554
00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:49.920
Mullets...

555
00:25:50.460 --> 00:25:54.299
Actually, Peter Davidson's character was entirely based on MacGyver.

556
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.819
The doctor, including the hairstyle.

557
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.640
And 3 years early, which was a massive achievement.

558
00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:00.839
Well, Doctor Who theme.

559
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:02.759
I'm sorry, but now.

560
00:26:02.819 --> 00:26:03.839
Sphincter.

561
00:26:03.900 --> 00:26:04.980
I have to say, there you go.

562
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:05.759
It's spreading.

563
00:26:05.819 --> 00:26:06.420
Really, it is.

564
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:14.819
We've all, we've all, all my friends are in sitrus at the moment for bare week and there's 15,000 large, hairy, homosexual men gathered in one place.

565
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:15.480
It's still okay.

566
00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:16.799
I still don't haven't.

567
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:17.099
Where are they?

568
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.440
explicit. in situres, which is in Spain.

569
00:26:19.500 --> 00:26:21.299
We're the men, Nina and the painter.

570
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:22.619
I was just going to say, Richard.

571
00:26:22.619 --> 00:26:28.680
Look, I'm going back to Mariners, which I, as I knew it as a kid, the keys are Marinas.

572
00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:29.940
I'm really good at reading.

573
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.099
D's Doctor Who. very cameras.

574
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.079
It's keys of marina certis.

575
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:40.920
Well, the thing is, Todd, it kind of explains why Pertwi is your favourite doctor because he's always mispronouncing things.

576
00:26:40.980 --> 00:26:43.859
Yeah, he gets...

577
00:26:43.859 --> 00:26:45.839
I thought that was your favourite doctor?

578
00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:46.619
Get real?

579
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:47.700
Who's your favourite doctor then?

580
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.460
I think we can't have to find out next year. right, okay.

581
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.400
We're going to have a terrific series of podcasts.

582
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.559
Two listeners.

583
00:26:55.619 --> 00:26:57.599
It'll be Nathan versus me.

584
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.680
Todd and I, oh, isn't that beautiful?

585
00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:03.359
It's the sale of the centuries.

586
00:27:03.660 --> 00:27:10.559
Todd and I have been discussing Collins, Ouvre, an era, and it turns out we're rather similar in our opinions.

587
00:27:10.619 --> 00:27:13.619
This will be very interesting to listen to later on.

588
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.420
Yep, and you're going to find out.

589
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:16.500
Todd will be quoting me.

590
00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:17.759
I'll be quoting Todd.

591
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.279
Well, well, well.

592
00:27:20.339 --> 00:27:21.779
This is gorgeous.

593
00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:24.180
Oh, well, the Romans again, goody.

594
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.559
Where's Derek Francis?

595
00:27:25.619 --> 00:27:26.700
Look at Barbara.

596
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.160
Oh, Barbara's hair's looking even better actually in his the world.

597
00:27:29.220 --> 00:27:30.240
How?

598
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:31.380
Only a year early.

599
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.200
I'm sorry, I'm going to point out the 1st plot discrepancy in this story.

600
00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:37.019
Barbara arrived about a minute before them.

601
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:37.859
Hello?

602
00:27:37.859 --> 00:27:38.819
She's a new frock.

603
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:39.839
Time differential.

604
00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:41.220
Time differential.

605
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.079
Oh.

606
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:43.920
You're making them up.

607
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:50.759
It's just an illusion caused by whatever's causing everything to look...

608
00:27:50.819 --> 00:27:51.299
Okay, yeah fine.

609
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.220
We don't know. isn't she in rags?

610
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.140
I mean, is that not that's diagenic?

611
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.039
I'm not just...

612
00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:00.779
Who's to say they don't have a special machine that she just steps into and then he goes zapping.

613
00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:02.039
Yeah, like on.

614
00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:03.480
Well, that's how the macro terror.

615
00:28:03.539 --> 00:28:05.400
That was the bottom...

616
00:28:05.460 --> 00:28:06.299
Oh, bit of comedy here.

617
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:12.480
There's there's Carl and Ford pretending to be enjoyable.

618
00:28:12.539 --> 00:28:14.160
Oh, there's one of those reaping angels at the back.

619
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.440
It's going to come to life.

620
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:17.460
That's nowhere to speak of Billy.

621
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:30.839
See, unfortunately, what we're missing in between this story and the edge of destruction is Marco Polo, where they spend 3 or 4 months travelling together, which is why they're so warm here after being so fractious.

622
00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:38.640
So do you think that they would ever, ever, in a 1000000 years, they wouldn't consider animating that as well?

623
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.500
Well, we've just had.

624
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:50.579
As we record, we've just had the announcement this week, dear listener, of the Power of the Daleks animation, so nothing is impossible, but I would say we would get Dalek, Cybermen, Ice Warrior.

625
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.539
Well, actually, the Ice Warriors have been animated yeti stories before we get historical.

626
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:59.759
I think we'll even get the wonderful massacre or celestial toy maker to wonderful classics.

627
00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:03.240
I don't think we would get I don't think it would get the massacre before we would get...

628
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.440
Chickens asked.

629
00:29:04.500 --> 00:29:07.200
As everybody, has everyone noticed that?

630
00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:11.880
All the girls, all the handmaidens look like Carol from Monty Python.

631
00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:14.819
They probably are all Carol from Monty Python.

632
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.460
Barbara was really born for this role.

633
00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:23.400
I love the fact that they're eating all these all these truffles and all this food.

634
00:29:23.460 --> 00:29:24.839
I can't remember.

635
00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:29.039
Do we actually get to see like it's rotting scraps they're eating?

636
00:29:29.099 --> 00:29:30.900
They're eating truffles?

637
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.000
No, it tastes like rat poo, just like Billy's.

638
00:29:33.059 --> 00:29:33.599
Well, I reckon that.

639
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.180
No, my partner is obsessed with truffles.

640
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:37.079
I love them.

641
00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:39.359
I actually use truffle oil to anoint myself.

642
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.880
I'm lining up for exercise classes for 3 hours.

643
00:29:41.940 --> 00:29:42.539
As well.

644
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:43.740
But the truffles thing.

645
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.140
The last time he was back in Sydney.

646
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:50.880
He bought a truffle the size of a grapefruit for...

647
00:29:50.940 --> 00:29:55.380
Oh, you know, half a $1000000 or something for a Lego set.

648
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.900
It smells like feet.

649
00:29:58.259 --> 00:30:00.599
What's Brendan?

650
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.480
Todd, Todd, if you would like to repeat that.

651
00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:05.220
Todd, please, over to you.

652
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.980
I just said, speaking of fruit and looking for...

653
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.099
Also, Ian's redone his hit.

654
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:18.299
Yeah, there's there's Actually, that's the biggest cornucopia of just stuff another grapefruit in it that we've ever seen.

655
00:30:18.420 --> 00:30:21.900
Yeah, there's that on the show and here's my roll of wallpaper.

656
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.680
There's 2 shots in this episode where the film is damaged and they've had to digitally replace things.

657
00:30:25.740 --> 00:30:27.059
Ian's head was one example.

658
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:28.559
That looked terrible.

659
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.059
And what about Altos's pants?

660
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.400
They were...

661
00:30:32.460 --> 00:30:34.799
So they weren't able to recreate them digitally.

662
00:30:34.859 --> 00:30:35.759
No.

663
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.319
That's with the neck thing.

664
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:38.579
Oh my goodness.

665
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:39.960
Also gay.

666
00:30:40.500 --> 00:30:42.180
Gay.

667
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:47.759
Now this, of course, is Robin Phillips, who was in an episode of The Avengers. as Billy Harnold.

668
00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:49.740
That's that's Marlon Dietrich.

669
00:30:49.740 --> 00:30:51.420
Oh, this one on the left.

670
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:52.319
Yes, that's right.

671
00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:54.480
Why is she wearing a chandelier, what?

672
00:30:54.539 --> 00:30:56.940
Well, he's he's just wearing speedos underneath.

673
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:58.859
And the 1st season Star Trek.

674
00:30:58.980 --> 00:30:59.700
Next Gem.

675
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:00.660
Little known fact.

676
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.359
He was he was campaigning to be prime minister of Australia at this point.

677
00:31:03.420 --> 00:31:04.559
Who, this person?

678
00:31:04.619 --> 00:31:04.920
Yes.

679
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:06.779
Who was he, really?

680
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:07.799
No, no, no.

681
00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:08.460
Robin Phillips.

682
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:09.180
He was an actor.

683
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:22.680
His other genre thing people may recognise is a sense of history from season 4 of the Avengers, which also featured Jackie Jacqueline Pierce in a very early role with a few lines of dialogue.

684
00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:25.380
I love it when you guys talk Avengers.

685
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.779
So does Stephen Berzanovsky.

686
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:29.759
Avengers is still my favourite thing of all time.

687
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.039
When are we doing an Avengers podcast?

688
00:31:32.099 --> 00:31:40.319
Well, remember, of course, we are contractually obliged in each podcast to mention the Avengers, Stephen Busanovsky and Philip Sandefer.

689
00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:42.000
So we've just got one more to go.

690
00:31:42.059 --> 00:31:44.880
We did, we did semi-quote Santa for earlier.

691
00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:45.599
Good, good.

692
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.700
I'm going crazy on...

693
00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:49.259
Auntie Nathan. anyways, yeah.

694
00:31:49.619 --> 00:31:52.019
Oh, it's so beautiful.

695
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.380
Can everything, if I was emperor of the universe.

696
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.160
If I was magic chan, the 1st thing I'd say is everything needs to be made in black and white again.

697
00:31:59.220 --> 00:31:59.759
Yeah.

698
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:05.519
Well, do you remember our crazy plan after the adventures of an adventure in Spain and time?

699
00:32:05.579 --> 00:32:06.599
Time in Spain?

700
00:32:06.660 --> 00:32:07.259
was it called?

701
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:08.279
Space and time.

702
00:32:08.339 --> 00:32:09.180
Time I thing.

703
00:32:10.019 --> 00:32:11.640
Our thing.

704
00:32:11.700 --> 00:32:13.740
Instead of shooting the next season of...

705
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.119
Dear listener, I still want this to happen.

706
00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:17.220
Chris Chibner, are you listening?

707
00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:17.759
stunning.

708
00:32:17.819 --> 00:32:18.180
Yeah.

709
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:19.319
She's beautiful.

710
00:32:19.380 --> 00:32:22.799
So what we do, instead of creating a new season of Doctor Who with Matt Smith.

711
00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:24.779
We get David Bradley back as the doctor.

712
00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:31.019
And then with Barbara Ian and Susan, the recreated set, all shooting in black and white and do a series of stories.

713
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.900
Yeah, a series of remakes, you know, do Marvel.

714
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:34.740
No, no, no, no.

715
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:35.279
New things.

716
00:32:35.339 --> 00:32:37.019
Oh, new things. in the style.

717
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:37.920
In the style of.

718
00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:40.859
So I'm happy with of, you know, whatever.

719
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.359
I think it would have been fun to bring in new monsters and some old ones as well.

720
00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:59.039
Play around with 2nd return to the Web Planet or 1st return, but I wanted 490 minute stories with the Adventures in Spain and Time cast using modern... but shooting.

721
00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:00.779
I think it would have rated brilliantly.

722
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.599
I also would have given Audi.

723
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.160
I would have watched.

724
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.339
Yeah, and I would have given Moffat a chance to actually think about what he was doing.

725
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.799
Although I've got to say, just having watched a little bit of Capaldi's 1st season, I love...

726
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:14.160
Oh.

727
00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:18.660
Oh, Todd, this is actually you and I as if we were acting.

728
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.059
Actually, I've seen Todd on stage.

729
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:21.720
It is Todd.

730
00:33:21.779 --> 00:33:22.740
This woman?

731
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:23.579
Yeah, darling.

732
00:33:23.700 --> 00:33:25.440
I really don't like her.

733
00:33:25.500 --> 00:33:26.519
Why?

734
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:26.759
Really?

735
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.880
Isn't she, isn't she, isn't she the daughter?

736
00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:31.140
isn't she?

737
00:33:31.140 --> 00:33:32.099
Yeah, Sabina.

738
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:32.940
Sabina?

739
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.099
Yeah, Sabitha.

740
00:33:35.819 --> 00:33:39.839
This is where the whole thing gets Scantiwegian's Ingmar Bergman.

741
00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:45.539
This is certain seal acting. that's true Oh, this is fantastic.

742
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:46.740
We missed design.

743
00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:47.819
He's putting a truffle on their heads.

744
00:33:47.940 --> 00:33:49.440
We missed our dogs on the world earlier.

745
00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:52.319
A word on the truffles.

746
00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:56.640
Do we think they're eating fungal truffles or chocolate truffles?

747
00:33:56.700 --> 00:33:58.019
Yeah, no fungal truffles.

748
00:33:58.079 --> 00:33:58.380
Really?

749
00:33:58.380 --> 00:33:59.579
Chocolate truffles aren't real.

750
00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:01.200
No, they're not real chocolate thing.

751
00:34:01.259 --> 00:34:03.599
Actually, they're copper lights on their heads.

752
00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:06.420
We have those in Australia.

753
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:07.500
We do.

754
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:08.699
I dated one.

755
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:09.059
God.

756
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.760
No, I really like what happens here.

757
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:12.960
Sorry, Sam.

758
00:34:13.019 --> 00:34:18.059
Jackie and Barbara and how they, all this sort of...

759
00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:19.739
Oh, my freaking hair.

760
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:20.820
Ow.

761
00:34:20.820 --> 00:34:22.619
Yeah, no, I thought it was really good at the time.

762
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:23.639
That really hurt.

763
00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:30.300
But it is, it's like technically actually really terribly good.

764
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:36.300
The thing where they, you know, you're cutting between different points of view, even though we can generally afford one set.

765
00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:37.559
Yeah, yeah.

766
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.659
And we're getting, you know, like scary, horrific. ancient Rome.

767
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.360
Would any of this worked if Jacqulyn Hill wasn't in it?

768
00:34:45.420 --> 00:34:47.159
No, nothing would have.

769
00:34:47.219 --> 00:34:52.019
That's why I think the show went to went to hell after the chase.

770
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.119
I don't know what's going on here, listeners.

771
00:34:54.179 --> 00:35:00.900
I haven't done enough of these. everybody's just slightly insane. are actually rubbing Todd for lock.

772
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:02.519
Well, I am.

773
00:35:02.579 --> 00:35:03.780
And let me recommend it.

774
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.019
Now, this bit we've got coming up from...

775
00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:11.039
This bit we got coming up from Barbara's point of view was, of course, pre-filmed.

776
00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:12.539
Oh, is that how they do it?

777
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:13.139
Yeah.

778
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.000
And they sort of, they sort of cut it down.

779
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:15.300
Why?

780
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.820
Barbara's point of view sees the room as it really is.

781
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.300
Whereas this point of view sees the rumours nice and fancy.

782
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.639
Dear listener, you love this crap.

783
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.659
Toby Haydoke.

784
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.559
Don't.

785
00:35:31.619 --> 00:35:33.179
Thank you.

786
00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:35.280
That's what I missed.

787
00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:38.820
The world big.

788
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.980
She was the Britney Spears all the time.

789
00:35:41.099 --> 00:35:41.880
And you know what?

790
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.800
I would, in that Carrier tits.

791
00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:48.539
In that David Bradley scenario, I would love to see Billy versus the Weeping Angels.

792
00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:50.699
Totes.

793
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:57.420
Actually, there's a fun thought while we're watching Barbara undulate on the sofa bed of reasonable comfort.

794
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.639
Who would you combine?

795
00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:04.559
Traditional monsters with any doctors.

796
00:36:04.619 --> 00:36:06.719
Who would you, or any monster with any doctor?

797
00:36:06.780 --> 00:36:07.260
Who do you want to see?

798
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:14.820
I would like to see, you know, the David Bradley, Barbara Ian and Susan in, say, Resurrection of the Daleks.

799
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:15.659
Wouldn't that be fun?

800
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:21.599
No, like everyone, everyone was being like brutally killed with guns.

801
00:36:21.780 --> 00:36:24.480
I think that would be re entertaining.

802
00:36:24.539 --> 00:36:27.179
Dear listener, Nathan's being very naughty.

803
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:28.199
Poisonous gas.

804
00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:32.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, where like people's eye sockets were being...

805
00:36:32.820 --> 00:36:36.840
I should mention to Brendan and the dear listener that I'm stuck trying to do the podcast.

806
00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:37.920
That old woman in the background.

807
00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:45.300
That's Ian I haven't been able to get to the Resurrection of the Daleks and I've been trying to watch it for a month. can't watch it.

808
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:45.780
Go on.

809
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.079
I was just going to say, it's Eric Seywood is that old woman in the back.

810
00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:52.380
Tush.

811
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.000
Yes, I agree.

812
00:36:54.059 --> 00:37:00.239
Billy and the Weeping Angels would be amazing, Pat, and something entirely different from what Pat has ever noticed.

813
00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:03.900
Well, you know, something in a rubber costume.

814
00:37:03.900 --> 00:37:08.219
Well, no, in that, in that, the Siberians from Warriors of the D. No, something different for sure.

815
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.320
No, I, yeah, Pat and the Happiness Patrol.

816
00:37:10.380 --> 00:37:13.679
I was going to suggest Pat versus the Midnight entity.

817
00:37:13.739 --> 00:37:15.179
Yes, thank you.

818
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.579
Because it would have made him act even more.

819
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:18.179
Yes, I agree.

820
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:19.860
I like old doctors and new monsters.

821
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:20.639
Let's have a look.

822
00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:23.280
Okay, so Pat and the Midnight entity is genius.

823
00:37:23.340 --> 00:37:24.480
Pert we?

824
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.500
Oh, you know, some old crap.

825
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:29.460
Whatever.

826
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:33.179
Well, we try to reboot here, so the absorbel off.

827
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.099
The scribble monster from Fear Hurt.

828
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.380
I think it'll be pertly in the cubes with unit.

829
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:41.099
Oh, yeah.

830
00:37:41.099 --> 00:37:42.300
Oh, that would be genius.

831
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:44.039
Can you imagine trying to do?

832
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:45.000
Oh that would be fantastic.

833
00:37:45.059 --> 00:37:47.280
Because we have to live with Amy and Rory.

834
00:37:47.340 --> 00:37:50.699
Tom and a woman with a...

835
00:37:50.699 --> 00:37:51.659
If I may interrupt for a moment.

836
00:37:51.659 --> 00:37:52.980
That is just...

837
00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:56.099
We're coming up on another digitally replaced shot.

838
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:57.599
Look at Altos as he moves forward here.

839
00:37:58.619 --> 00:38:00.239
That's weird.

840
00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:03.599
Yeah, there's just a massively damaged section of film there.

841
00:38:03.659 --> 00:38:05.579
However, he's kind of pretty.

842
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.519
No, in a good way, just creepy way.

843
00:38:08.579 --> 00:38:09.360
Yeah, yeah.

844
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.519
By the way, this champagne refuge.

845
00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:12.900
I should just mention to the listener.

846
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:18.239
No, no, he's pretty in a sort of, uh, you know, your parents, uh, Joseph.

847
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.239
Yeah, but, uh, I should pick you up from school today.

848
00:38:21.300 --> 00:38:22.440
Yeah.

849
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.780
Like Joseph Mengele's crib.

850
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.400
So, you know, childcare centre.

851
00:38:26.460 --> 00:38:28.860
Everyone's got blue eyes. that kind of creepy.

852
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.360
Oh, that's good too.

853
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.239
We're just watching...

854
00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:36.300
It's actually the lighting I'm getting excited about.

855
00:38:36.420 --> 00:38:40.440
Please go and watch some German expressionism. is totally ripped off.

856
00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:41.940
We had a recording break.

857
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.739
I hug a column 2 at this point.

858
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.119
I'm so with you, babs.

859
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:51.599
We had a recording break here, so Barbara could get into her real world dress. behind the column.

860
00:38:51.659 --> 00:38:54.300
Also, she's looking just a little bit hammer horror.

861
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:55.980
Oh my god, thigh action.

862
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.820
And he's lost a bit of his choker there, you'll notice, because we're now in the real world.

863
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:03.300
Babs has just realised that she's actually dressed as she's being paid.

864
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:09.119
So was that the ludicrous Altos frock was caused by...

865
00:39:09.179 --> 00:39:09.659
Exactly, exactly.

866
00:39:10.260 --> 00:39:18.239
Now, the thing is here, the only problem with putting Barbara in a sort of raggy frock is it Shacky Hill?

867
00:39:18.300 --> 00:39:20.159
She still looks amazing.

868
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:27.840
The 1st time I saw these, sorry, because it's all about me. 1st time I saw these, it's 1983.

869
00:39:28.019 --> 00:39:29.340
Oh, they woggle.

870
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.679
Just like something you shouldn't be playing with at your age.

871
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:40.440
I 1st saw these in the 20th anniversary special and they were orange and pink and really, really kind of good, actually.

872
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:42.659
How did they come back in the 20th anniversary special?

873
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:49.019
20th anniversary, 5 doctors, radio times, printed special.

874
00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:49.800
Oh, okay.

875
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:57.000
That came out as a magazine was the very 1st time any child under the age of 20 had seen these things in a colour shot.

876
00:39:57.059 --> 00:40:00.179
They're actually really great in colour.

877
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.420
Such a pity they weren't brought back for the 20th season of Doctor Who.

878
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:04.860
Oh, who's to say they weren't?

879
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.039
So evacuated the script.

880
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.980
So you're behind the Lazar disease.

881
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:12.599
Oh, brains.

882
00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:13.980
That would be.

883
00:40:13.980 --> 00:40:17.519
Oh, look, it's Eric sober in his 1st screen.

884
00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:18.960
It would have been better.

885
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.639
This is so...

886
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.599
Do you know what this reminds?

887
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:27.719
This sort of reminds me of this, she's like a prototype, Polly, like, in the same shot.

888
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:29.940
It's weird, interesting having a...

889
00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:30.480
It's better.

890
00:40:30.900 --> 00:40:32.940
Betton Joan in whatever happened to baby Jane.

891
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.880
Oh, oh, I want to see that remade.

892
00:40:35.940 --> 00:40:37.019
To be punished.

893
00:40:37.019 --> 00:40:38.699
I really want to see that remote.

894
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.139
I wanna see it done with drag queens.

895
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.599
You know what is being remade?

896
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:48.480
Does everyone realise that Sarandon is playing is hang on, who's the other one?

897
00:40:48.539 --> 00:40:54.900
They are actually doing a miniseries for Netflix with Susan Sarandon.

898
00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:56.219
And come on, boys.

899
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:57.599
Limit Tomlin?

900
00:40:57.659 --> 00:40:58.559
But haven't you seen?

901
00:40:58.559 --> 00:40:59.579
As Betty and Joan.

902
00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:03.840
Psycho, bitches, where it's Mark Gatis and Francis Barber.

903
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:05.639
Yes, I have three.

904
00:41:05.699 --> 00:41:06.239
Really?

905
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:07.079
Really good.

906
00:41:07.139 --> 00:41:08.159
Oh, please.

907
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:13.199
That is the gayest duck face we've had so far, and this is before rain of terror.

908
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:14.340
This is fantastic.

909
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:15.480
I love this.

910
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.579
It's such a subversion, isn't it, Ty?

911
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.159
Oh, terry nation.

912
00:41:20.219 --> 00:41:21.360
Look at the technology.

913
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.719
And William Harlow is...

914
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:26.099
William Harlow?

915
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:26.760
Yes, yes, yes.

916
00:41:26.820 --> 00:41:32.639
Is this the point where, or was it later where William Hartner was the highest paid actor in the BBC?

917
00:41:32.699 --> 00:41:33.900
Well, look at that.

918
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:35.639
Yes, no wonder.

919
00:41:35.699 --> 00:41:41.519
If I put this inside a jab jar, it would be bigger, Leila, than you are, and gloves.

920
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.219
It should have been to try hers.

921
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.260
They should have kept this field going.

922
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.820
It would have saved them stacks of money over the next sort of 25 years, wouldn't it?

923
00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:51.719
Possessed.

924
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:52.920
Stoned.

925
00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:54.900
She's stroking her key.

926
00:41:54.900 --> 00:41:56.039
Possessed, really.

927
00:41:56.099 --> 00:41:57.179
Stoned.

928
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:02.820
Actually, I think there's getting a little bit of girly action for the young ladylessness at times.

929
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:03.780
This is getting a little bit.

930
00:42:03.780 --> 00:42:04.380
What offscreen?

931
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:04.860
Excitement.

932
00:42:05.340 --> 00:42:07.079
A bit sappy.

933
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:07.679
Hello, Barbara.

934
00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:11.039
Well, I'm going to say, it's a little bit, well, wouldn't you?

935
00:42:11.099 --> 00:42:12.840
It was a thing I desired moves.

936
00:42:12.900 --> 00:42:17.340
I, you know, God, is there anyone here who wouldn't, you know, do Barbara's hair right now?

937
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:17.880
It's mine.

938
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.760
The thing is, I really want...

939
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.320
I really like her there saying it's mine.

940
00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:26.159
Do you know Marva to mean anything to you because I am.

941
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:27.539
He was your father.

942
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:28.860
I'm sorry, he's dead.

943
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.320
Arbiter is just arbiter, isn't it?

944
00:42:31.380 --> 00:42:34.260
It's like the person who decides what you should do and what you shouldn't do.

945
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.179
It's Terry Nation, for God's sake.

946
00:42:36.300 --> 00:42:39.780
Yeah, Terry, the inventor of the planet desperous.

947
00:42:40.380 --> 00:42:42.840
The desperate people to live on.

948
00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:45.780
But then you ask Mariners, where there's a sea.

949
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.119
Arctic, what does that, what's the?

950
00:42:48.179 --> 00:42:51.960
No, that doesn't really mean anything, but he was the man who invented the planet Oridius.

951
00:42:52.019 --> 00:42:53.639
Which then became a desert.

952
00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:55.019
Yeah, that was weird.

953
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:02.159
I wouldn't have called it a radius if it was like a sea planet full of octopuses and... you know what?

954
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:02.820
With fins.

955
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:03.960
I don't care.

956
00:43:04.019 --> 00:43:05.460
I'm actually loving this.

957
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.460
I'm not this her hair. right now.

958
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:09.900
Look, it's great.

959
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:11.400
It doesn't mean we can't take the Mick.

960
00:43:11.820 --> 00:43:14.699
But these I love her.

961
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:15.539
I love her.

962
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.860
I just had a great nightmare.

963
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:17.699
Yeah.

964
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:23.039
I do have to say with these brains, you know, of course, now as an adult, I think of Futurama.

965
00:43:23.099 --> 00:43:27.420
Way over the world before, because we are giant brains.

966
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:31.019
But as a kid, these terrified me and their voice is terrified me.

967
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:32.039
Oh, yeah, bump into the table.

968
00:43:32.099 --> 00:43:32.880
Well done, camera.

969
00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:33.599
We're so lucky.

970
00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:35.699
I love that they're going to do.

971
00:43:35.699 --> 00:43:37.380
That's a beautiful shot through the Belgium.

972
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:41.280
They have to join the working party, increase the manpower, but what are they actually doing?

973
00:43:41.340 --> 00:43:44.340
Yeah, we don't know. mining stuff.

974
00:43:44.460 --> 00:43:46.079
It's science fiction.

975
00:43:46.139 --> 00:43:48.000
They're always mining crap, God's sake.

976
00:43:48.059 --> 00:43:48.420
Hold on.

977
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.039
Since the morphans don't actually have hands.

978
00:43:50.099 --> 00:43:53.460
Who made who blew the bell jars, so to speak, and made all of this?

979
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:54.840
No, well, they have they have lips.

980
00:43:55.019 --> 00:43:57.119
They have other lips.

981
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.099
They do.

982
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:04.860
You can't see from pine, but they have lips, so they blow their own bell jars.

983
00:44:04.980 --> 00:44:08.280
Yeah, we'll learn something new.

984
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.019
You see it on video on the internet.

985
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.099
D young listeners, you have so much to look forward to when the hormones kick in.

986
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:18.179
I just have to say, I love the fact that that's almost an answer.

987
00:44:18.300 --> 00:44:20.519
No, Ted Cannon.

988
00:44:20.579 --> 00:44:23.219
Also, Babs.

989
00:44:23.219 --> 00:44:24.539
Also, Babs.

990
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.159
I think he's gonna turn for badge.

991
00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:28.920
I have to say, it's kind of cute.

992
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.260
It's good to see a bloke who doesn't skip leg day.

993
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.920
Hey, it happens so much.

994
00:44:34.980 --> 00:44:38.099
That grass, grapple, grasps.

995
00:44:38.099 --> 00:44:39.059
It's very Adam West.

996
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:39.780
Barbara Grass.

997
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.519
Barbara grunting.

998
00:44:41.579 --> 00:44:44.519
Barbara grunting was the was the subtitle then.

999
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:45.960
Overpowering.

1000
00:44:46.019 --> 00:44:48.900
Presumably great drag name, isn't it, Barbara Grunt?

1001
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.239
Not a bad knockout there.

1002
00:44:51.300 --> 00:44:52.199
No, no, no.

1003
00:44:52.260 --> 00:44:53.579
Took a whole chance.

1004
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:55.320
That's terrible.

1005
00:44:55.380 --> 00:45:00.179
Her hairspray do would repel ionising radiation, let alone a pot.

1006
00:45:00.300 --> 00:45:03.780
Oh, Sabitha is so out of it.

1007
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.639
She needs to learn when to stop.

1008
00:45:06.059 --> 00:45:09.719
Just one or 2 bowls all day.

1009
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:11.699
Speaking of which was our champagne.

1010
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.719
She is, I'll get a bottle during the next, during the next credits.

1011
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.639
Oh, I just want to be you.

1012
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:21.539
Sabitha really is that person who collapses at the party halfway through.

1013
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.519
She's had too much too soon.

1014
00:45:23.579 --> 00:45:24.719
That's it.

1015
00:45:24.780 --> 00:45:30.719
You know, like you have to hold her hair out of the face while she's vomiting in a pot plant, for God's sake.

1016
00:45:30.780 --> 00:45:35.099
He and Barbara actually sort of, do we think they're going to end up together?

1017
00:45:35.099 --> 00:45:36.599
Yes, come on.

1018
00:45:36.659 --> 00:45:38.579
Have you seen the chase?

1019
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.119
Have you seen the Sarah Jane Adventures?

1020
00:45:42.179 --> 00:45:46.860
I had no choice, but I have to say, though, they should have learned their lesson after the edge of destruction.

1021
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.679
Don't get William Russell to do possessed acting.

1022
00:45:49.739 --> 00:45:52.079
Don't really get him to do acting.

1023
00:45:52.139 --> 00:45:56.159
You know, he's lovely, but, you know, what does he do?

1024
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.360
He thrusts people into rooms very well.

1025
00:46:00.420 --> 00:46:02.460
She is so good.

1026
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.320
She's doing it. and look what he's not doing. is selling this so well.

1027
00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:10.559
And really, Ian is just mimicking them orphans.

1028
00:46:10.619 --> 00:46:16.199
Well, he's actually anticipating Peter Davidson's resting cliffhanger face.

1029
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:16.500
Oh.

1030
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.900
I would hate...

1031
00:46:18.900 --> 00:46:23.219
It's just general face. just say how shocked I've been by Peter.

1032
00:46:23.340 --> 00:46:26.820
I didn't realise Paul Davidson had already started.

1033
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:30.360
The human body is the most flexible instrument in the world, Richard.

1034
00:46:30.420 --> 00:46:31.860
You filthy beast.

1035
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.519
I thought children listen to this.

1036
00:46:35.579 --> 00:46:36.420
No, they don't.

1037
00:46:37.019 --> 00:46:39.300
You've seen the truth.

1038
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.659
I love that there's an air vent for the morphetons at the top of the belt.

1039
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:46.019
Yeah, everyone read Sylvia Platt because pretty much I'm just reliving it.

1040
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:48.000
No, it's like a bug catcher.

1041
00:46:48.059 --> 00:46:49.500
Did you ever have a bug?

1042
00:46:49.500 --> 00:46:50.639
I remember that cruel.

1043
00:46:50.699 --> 00:46:52.860
Well, look, it's coward.

1044
00:46:52.860 --> 00:46:53.940
Go for it.

1045
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.840
Now, this this gave me nightmares as a kid.

1046
00:46:57.900 --> 00:47:02.460
Yeah, just I just love that you're destroying the model city for the next story.

1047
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:03.300
Hooray.

1048
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.699
Yeah, you go, barber, kill them.

1049
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.599
But not actually smash any glass because that's a BBC sword. might need it.

1050
00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:11.639
She does she does break all the linkages.

1051
00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:15.420
Yes, but she doesn't break the glass because, you know, we might need to reshoot.

1052
00:47:15.539 --> 00:47:17.940
But you would have broken the glass if you could afford it.

1053
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:19.019
I just think this is beautiful.

1054
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:24.900
It's one little bit of washing up bottle and a black curtain and it looks gorgeous because Babs is doing so much.

1055
00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:26.880
Ian.

1056
00:47:26.940 --> 00:47:28.860
Stop phoning it in.

1057
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:29.519
Oh.

1058
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.139
There we go.

1059
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:32.340
And the cardigans back.

1060
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:33.239
It's really all I wanted.

1061
00:47:33.539 --> 00:47:35.460
I don't blame them either.

1062
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:36.599
No, where's Billy?

1063
00:47:36.659 --> 00:47:39.059
where's he been Back combing, apparently.

1064
00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:48.360
It really is true to say that we would be here today if it hadn't been for if it hadn't been for Jacqueline Hill.

1065
00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:51.719
I actually think Jacqueline Hill is the star of this with Billy.

1066
00:47:51.719 --> 00:48:02.579
And all I ever asked for, Toddy, All I ever ask for is stories where Ian and Susan just bugger off on holiday for 6 episodes.

1067
00:48:02.579 --> 00:48:04.559
Get off onto the sensor, right, space.

1068
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:05.400
Do whatever you want.

1069
00:48:05.460 --> 00:48:06.659
I really don't care.

1070
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:10.320
Get trapped in an airlock, but I just want...

1071
00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:13.679
I just want Billy and bads for the entire 1st season, Todd.

1072
00:48:14.340 --> 00:48:16.440
Oh, you actually want them for the remake season too?

1073
00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:18.000
Just them.

1074
00:48:18.059 --> 00:48:27.179
I was very, I was actually quite disappointed in the recasting of Barbara for an adventure in Spain and time because she didn't capture the subtlety addiction.

1075
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.059
She wasn't as good, but I mean, who would be?

1076
00:48:30.179 --> 00:48:31.079
Exactly.

1077
00:48:31.139 --> 00:48:32.159
Plus, yeah.

1078
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:32.940
Madeline Khan.

1079
00:48:33.059 --> 00:48:35.639
She only had about 10 lines, don't forget.

1080
00:48:35.699 --> 00:48:37.320
Yeah, she's not even that much.

1081
00:48:37.380 --> 00:48:38.760
It was about Billy and Verity.

1082
00:48:38.820 --> 00:48:43.019
Barbara had no lines for many scenes and yet she's doing everything.

1083
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:43.860
That's true.

1084
00:48:43.980 --> 00:48:45.300
They should.

1085
00:48:45.300 --> 00:48:46.619
I'm going to go on holiday.

1086
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:58.619
Yeah, Billy's off. send you into perilous situations, which you may not survive from, but somehow or another, you will get to the end of this story and we'll have these 2 other pseudo companions who could be like Ben and Polly.

1087
00:48:59.219 --> 00:49:01.739
Except for trousers.

1088
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:03.300
Two very pretty people.

1089
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:10.500
And I also love the fact that he's like, no, no, rather than take you somewhere safe with me, Susan, I'm going to send you into unknown dangers.

1090
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.920
I'm not going to get rid of you in this story, but I will eventually get rid of you.

1091
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:18.599
I was just going to say, do you get the impression that he's actually been trying to dump the broad for a long time?

1092
00:49:18.659 --> 00:49:21.300
Yes, but you couldn't regenerate yes, yes.

1093
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.579
Is she her grand his granddaughter?

1094
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:24.179
Yes.

1095
00:49:24.300 --> 00:49:28.679
Well, why have you ever wanted to lose a granddaughter as much as Billy wants to lose her?

1096
00:49:28.739 --> 00:49:34.860
She's not the lady bloody Lan Eric Saywood. 20th anniversary special. you.

1097
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.179
What's the lady Lane?

1098
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.219
Oh, in 20th anniversary special?

1099
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:51.780
Eric, say when he wrote this story where the doctor saves the lady Lan and leaves Gallifrey and the lady Lan says, I'm going to call myself Susan and be your granddaughter and we will travel together and he doesn't just react by going, okay, bit creepy.

1100
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:55.260
Oh, but it was very important to Eric, say with them.

1101
00:49:55.260 --> 00:49:56.400
The doctor had never had sex.

1102
00:49:56.460 --> 00:49:57.360
That's right.

1103
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.239
Like all of our songs. there's something in that for all of us.

1104
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.099
It was actually kind of important to fandom.

1105
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.420
What was about the 80s that the doctor should have had no family and no background?

1106
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:09.960
What was that?

1107
00:50:10.019 --> 00:50:12.059
Because I think that would make him too human.

1108
00:50:12.179 --> 00:50:16.320
Oh, which it would explain why I can't get through the Dovers anymore.

1109
00:50:16.380 --> 00:50:16.920
Stop it.

1110
00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:17.639
Stop it.

1111
00:50:17.699 --> 00:50:19.500
Oh, Caroline.

1112
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:20.579
Bless you.

1113
00:50:20.699 --> 00:50:22.500
Time for it, Arcavin Pinji.

1114
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:22.980
Just stop it.

1115
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:23.579
Stop it.

1116
00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:27.719
How else are you meant to do psychotic acting?

1117
00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:28.739
I think she's doing it very well.

1118
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.000
I like the Apple Watch.

1119
00:50:30.059 --> 00:50:31.320
And this is still what she does.

1120
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.539
In convention, graph cues.

1121
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:33.840
Yeah.

1122
00:50:33.900 --> 00:50:35.400
The streaming jungle.

1123
00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:36.960
I think I need to grab another bottle too.

1124
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:44.460
Young Brendan, I absolutely adore Carol Anne with Paul McGann in the audio, the big finish audio.

1125
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.860
She is wonderful in that. you know what?

1126
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:47.820
I won't hear a word against her.

1127
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:48.239
She great.

1128
00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:49.860
Does she does she actually sound quite good?

1129
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.599
She even is given sandwiches.

1130
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.539
She sounds kind of great. great.

1131
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:55.619
She sounds great.

1132
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:57.780
That's a convention, naughty rumour.

1133
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:03.239
And Paul's son, Alex plays her son, the doctor's grandson.

1134
00:51:03.300 --> 00:51:04.679
Great grandson.

1135
00:51:04.739 --> 00:51:07.440
They're some of my favourite big finish audios of all time.

1136
00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:12.360
Brandon is here with playing Diana Rig with an empty with a full champagne bottle.

1137
00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:13.679
I'm just about to shoot the cork off.

1138
00:51:13.739 --> 00:51:18.059
I'll try not to shoot your head and I'll just shoot the cock.

1139
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:18.840
Let's see how we go.

1140
00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:21.659
Did the director of this story direct anything else, John?

1141
00:51:22.380 --> 00:51:25.380
No, he died very soon afterwards by fans bitching.

1142
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:26.219
I believe.

1143
00:51:26.219 --> 00:51:29.039
I actually believed you that he died...

1144
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.360
John Don, bitching killed him.

1145
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:31.980
John thought it was...

1146
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:37.800
Okay, John John Gory, I thought, and I will check this when I'm not opening up.

1147
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:45.840
He definitely he definitely directs the episode of Reign of Terror that Heinrich Hirsch was sick for. isn't crap.

1148
00:51:45.900 --> 00:51:47.880
No, it's crap.

1149
00:51:47.940 --> 00:51:48.900
That whole thing's crap.

1150
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.880
No, it's...

1151
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.199
Dear listener, please write in.

1152
00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:54.360
Go away, go away.

1153
00:51:54.420 --> 00:51:57.000
First they go to a pub and then prison.

1154
00:51:57.059 --> 00:52:00.000
It's all been well and truly rehearsed.

1155
00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:01.679
Really cool Apple watches.

1156
00:52:01.739 --> 00:52:03.119
And also...

1157
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:04.380
Oh, they just run into a new scene.

1158
00:52:04.500 --> 00:52:06.119
How could they have killed George Canoras?

1159
00:52:06.179 --> 00:52:08.460
He's expensive. so soon?

1160
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:09.539
It's...

1161
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.019
Well, the thing is, he was, he was the headline star.

1162
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:14.400
Cheers, Tim, isn't it?

1163
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.260
He was...

1164
00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:17.099
Cork out of the bottle.

1165
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:17.400
Yeah.

1166
00:52:17.579 --> 00:52:19.739
Pass me your glass, darling.

1167
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:21.719
Yeah, would you like my glass as well?

1168
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.059
George Caluras was the headline style.

1169
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.159
So they could only afford him for one episode basically.

1170
00:52:26.219 --> 00:52:28.079
Well, they get 2 for the price of one.

1171
00:52:28.139 --> 00:52:30.000
He was the Agnes Moorehead all the time.

1172
00:52:30.059 --> 00:52:30.900
Thank you, darling.

1173
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.099
Keep going, keep going, keep going.

1174
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:33.539
Yeah, why not?

1175
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:34.019
Cheers.

1176
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.219
Cheers, Lucy, listen.

1177
00:52:35.340 --> 00:52:36.599
Let me finish that.

1178
00:52:36.659 --> 00:52:37.980
What does the listener think about this?

1179
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:44.940
I'd like them to respond to our very exciting book of face page where we put hilarious jokes up each each week.

1180
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.860
Also, legs.

1181
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.960
His legs have got longer.

1182
00:52:49.019 --> 00:52:49.800
Yeah.

1183
00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:54.480
Also, that is the gayest frock in Doctor Who of all time.

1184
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.119
And Sabeta's as well.

1185
00:52:57.179 --> 00:52:58.380
Do you know, Brendan?

1186
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:04.980
I think he not only skips legs week, he skips, you know, chest and shoulders.

1187
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.139
Look, he's not eating any carbs.

1188
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:08.760
He has definition in his legs.

1189
00:53:10.019 --> 00:53:13.320
I mean, he's he's a naturally skinny boy.

1190
00:53:13.380 --> 00:53:14.699
He has muscle in his legs.

1191
00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:18.480
Probably from putting his ankles behind his ears for most.

1192
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.059
Yes, I know, listeners.

1193
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.039
I'm sure he's very good at yoga.

1194
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:24.719
Just means you did a lot of gymnastics.

1195
00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:28.320
Very good at yoga. to be dirty-minded, Todd.

1196
00:53:28.380 --> 00:53:30.960
This is terrible. help me, Brendan.

1197
00:53:31.019 --> 00:53:32.099
I'm trapped between these.

1198
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:35.820
I know. like Mortangella in a sanger.

1199
00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:43.559
So John Gory directed the Keys of Marinace and he directed one episode of The Reign of Terror.

1200
00:53:43.619 --> 00:53:51.900
But that's been junked, and has now been inexpertly animated, I think, by some Australian... direct the missing episode of Planet of the Giants.

1201
00:53:52.739 --> 00:53:55.260
Yes, the one that was cut out.

1202
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:59.820
Oh, boys, gentlemen. before you start telling us fascinating facts.

1203
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:03.360
Can I just ask, whatever happened to all the undiscovered African stories?

1204
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:14.760
Well, because I thought Power of the Daleks was something in Philip Blarface's compendium of useless trivia that we will never get to see because he wants too much money.

1205
00:54:14.820 --> 00:54:16.679
We're allowed to talk about Philip Morris.

1206
00:54:16.739 --> 00:54:17.280
Yeah, yeah.

1207
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.380
But I felt cigarette.

1208
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.079
Yeah, he owns every cigarette in the world.

1209
00:54:22.139 --> 00:54:23.099
That's an in joke.

1210
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:27.420
I thought Bill Morris was in the original Mission Impossible.

1211
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:28.800
Yeah, he was as well.

1212
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:37.199
I thought he said he had power of the Daleks, Marco Polo and a crapload of other things, Brendan.

1213
00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:39.659
Well, I mean, I've never seen any confirmation of that.

1214
00:54:39.780 --> 00:54:40.860
That was certainly the rumour.

1215
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:46.800
I certainly heard Marco Polo rumour. confirmed it quietly to our friends, so I should probably not be saying this on the podcast.

1216
00:54:46.860 --> 00:54:47.579
Maybe not.

1217
00:54:47.579 --> 00:54:48.179
So what?

1218
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:52.980
But look, you know, I think where there's smoke, there's fire.

1219
00:54:53.039 --> 00:55:00.360
Certainly, Philip and also, I'm afraid his his wife's name escapes me at the moment, but she is involved.

1220
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.000
I love the fact that I, for now, that vine with the rock.

1221
00:55:06.059 --> 00:55:06.599
Sorry.

1222
00:55:06.659 --> 00:55:09.599
Thank you, Tom, for coming back to the reason we're doing this podcast.

1223
00:55:09.659 --> 00:55:15.300
For now, I do apologise for forgetting her name, but I'm going to refer to her as Mrs. Morris.

1224
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.699
So if you like Shirley, I think.

1225
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.159
Probably. in that voice.

1226
00:55:20.219 --> 00:55:31.679
She keeps, she sort of keeps the home fires burning and does, does Eileen weigh all the time gone. does sort of the administrative side in the UK gets things shipped back.

1227
00:55:31.739 --> 00:55:37.260
Now, what I have heard has been the holdup is, and this is just a rumour.

1228
00:55:38.699 --> 00:55:43.260
Well, no, I've heard that he has found stuff, but because of the initial leak.

1229
00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:47.400
Which is the BBC's bloody...

1230
00:55:47.460 --> 00:55:51.539
Of course, the various TV stations now know what they have is worth money.

1231
00:55:51.900 --> 00:55:54.599
So I gather that has led to problems.

1232
00:55:54.659 --> 00:56:03.900
And of course, the fact that Web of Web of Fear 3, he did discover and it was then sold from under him by someone at the TV station.

1233
00:56:04.380 --> 00:56:10.019
Oh, is that why we have, that's why we don't have Web of Fear 3 because someone sold it.

1234
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:15.840
And he's still, he, Philip Morris is still trying to track it down, but basically he said, you know, it was physically handed off and paid for with cash.

1235
00:56:15.900 --> 00:56:16.860
Wow.

1236
00:56:17.579 --> 00:56:19.679
Couldn't we sell something?

1237
00:56:21.659 --> 00:56:25.980
We can sell Eric Seywood for scientific experiments.

1238
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:28.440
This statue with the hands, right?

1239
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:29.159
They go like that.

1240
00:56:29.219 --> 00:56:35.159
I remember as a kid watching, it was either a black and white Tarzan or it was an Abbott and Luke Costello, where there was...

1241
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:36.239
It is Abbott and Costello.

1242
00:56:36.300 --> 00:56:38.280
I remember... or somewhere.

1243
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.099
They were all fans of this story.

1244
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:49.199
And they had a similar thing in Africa or somewhere and they had the tribal thing and the hands were like this.

1245
00:56:49.260 --> 00:56:50.280
I just remember.

1246
00:56:50.340 --> 00:56:56.099
It's a little known thing that Carol Anne Ford was actually a hand model. just like in that episode of Seinfeld.

1247
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.800
There's that Caroline Ford.

1248
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:01.380
Also, really nice ab definition there, statue.

1249
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.659
God, we're desperate, aren't we?

1250
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:05.280
The micro key.

1251
00:57:05.340 --> 00:57:06.480
Oh, they're ecstatic.

1252
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.860
I think I've got it, you certainly have got it, honey.

1253
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.039
So you really act with a wall, can't you?

1254
00:57:14.099 --> 00:57:16.260
And now, also...

1255
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:17.460
Oh, that's not kind.

1256
00:57:17.579 --> 00:57:19.860
Actually, yeah, I'd be up for that.

1257
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:30.360
Can I just say to the people at home who voted for this story, that if you'd voted for the Romans, this commentary podcast would nearly be over by now.

1258
00:57:31.139 --> 00:57:33.360
Get off the train, say go to work.

1259
00:57:33.420 --> 00:57:34.679
Can I ask a question?

1260
00:57:34.739 --> 00:57:36.780
Have we actually nominated for Patier?

1261
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.280
Yeah, what is it?

1262
00:57:38.340 --> 00:57:39.900
I'm going for the war games?

1263
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:40.260
Yep.

1264
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.780
I'm really not impressed by that at all.

1265
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:47.219
By the time this release, we will have a result.

1266
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.440
I'm going for the macrotera.

1267
00:57:49.500 --> 00:57:52.260
I'm going for his appearance in the $5.

1268
00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:53.820
I don't really nominate something.

1269
00:57:54.179 --> 00:57:55.739
Yes, you did.

1270
00:57:57.179 --> 00:58:01.019
But at the end of this, at the end of this, I'll announce what it is.

1271
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:03.000
What do I nominate?

1272
00:58:03.059 --> 00:58:04.920
I'll have to remind you.

1273
00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:07.139
I'm sure I think I know what it is.

1274
00:58:07.260 --> 00:58:07.619
Yeah.

1275
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:08.760
You were drunk.

1276
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.760
Todd doesn't drink, so that's pretty interesting.

1277
00:58:11.820 --> 00:58:14.579
Does somebody actually have a, we've actually got a result to it?

1278
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.139
Well, by this time we will have a result.

1279
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:20.099
We don't have a result as of recording, but we will have a result as by the time this comes out.

1280
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:21.900
Because that will be the far.

1281
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:23.280
So you've just spoiled the...

1282
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.380
I've spoiled the magic that I'm going to record...

1283
00:58:25.380 --> 00:58:29.340
I've heard something for which there are no telly snaps and no recording.

1284
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:34.679
So we're actually going to sit here and commentate nothing and audio.

1285
00:58:34.739 --> 00:58:37.139
Well, in order for that to happen, Richard.

1286
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.179
One of us will have to suggest a missing story.

1287
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:41.699
Oh, we haven't done that, have we?

1288
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:45.539
Well, it's for me, it's Power of the Daleks, but that will be back.

1289
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.820
We'll have to do a commentary on that. you know what?

1290
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.179
We'll just do it anyway because annoying our listeners is our reason to live.

1291
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:52.019
You know what?

1292
00:58:52.019 --> 00:58:52.739
Okay, be back.

1293
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:53.280
Yeah.

1294
00:58:53.340 --> 00:58:54.000
Ish.

1295
00:58:54.059 --> 00:58:57.239
Actually, have you, dear listener, have you watched the little animated things?

1296
00:58:57.300 --> 00:58:58.920
The little moments?

1297
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.360
It's really cool.

1298
00:59:00.420 --> 00:59:02.340
Fantastic. actually looks better.

1299
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:04.679
Clearly this episode is incredibly boring.

1300
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.360
No, it's just people touching other people in bathrobes.

1301
00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:10.320
What's not to like?

1302
00:59:10.380 --> 00:59:14.280
Also, arms. looking very concerned.

1303
00:59:14.340 --> 00:59:17.579
This is my parents' house in the 1970s.

1304
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:20.699
There's just lots of palm bronze and I want Barbara back.

1305
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.480
I think they've just all been to a Keith tossing party Oh, by the way.

1306
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:28.079
So does that mean shirtless George Lazenby is about to appear, originally?

1307
00:59:28.739 --> 00:59:32.519
I'll be your guardian, Susan.

1308
00:59:32.579 --> 00:59:33.539
Well, you're screwed.

1309
00:59:33.659 --> 00:59:36.840
Or not, really, honestly. honestly, you're fine.

1310
00:59:36.900 --> 00:59:37.920
Where's Barbara?

1311
00:59:37.980 --> 00:59:39.840
She's been taken by the statue.

1312
00:59:39.900 --> 00:59:41.099
Yeah, really?

1313
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:42.179
Is she having a break?

1314
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.159
Does she have a tan when she comes back?

1315
00:59:44.219 --> 00:59:45.780
There was no recording break there.

1316
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:49.320
They just ran off set during William Russell's shot.

1317
00:59:49.380 --> 00:59:50.699
I don't mind that at all.

1318
00:59:50.699 --> 00:59:51.780
No, no, it's fine.

1319
00:59:51.780 --> 00:59:52.920
Another one of these moments.

1320
00:59:52.980 --> 00:59:54.599
What's the safe word?

1321
00:59:54.659 --> 00:59:55.380
What did she just say?

1322
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.940
They can't think of anything to say. jaunting bracelets.

1323
01:00:00.059 --> 01:00:01.139
It's really excitement.

1324
01:00:01.260 --> 01:00:03.719
It reminds me of the dead planet.

1325
01:00:03.780 --> 01:00:04.800
The fluid link.

1326
01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:07.380
No, it's just a box of flashing lights.

1327
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.260
Yeah, they don't have the money for that.

1328
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:21.360
The question is, though, this week's why are they doing this in the plot is, it's a fake key that they put on the idol and then the idol takes you prisoner and tries and tries to kill you.

1329
01:00:21.420 --> 01:00:22.199
Why?

1330
01:00:22.260 --> 01:00:25.320
Why not just let someone get away with the fake key and let them think they've got it?

1331
01:00:25.380 --> 01:00:26.760
Why then kill them?

1332
01:00:26.820 --> 01:00:29.579
This podcast would make no sense.

1333
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:34.260
Did I pretended he set up all these traps for people?

1334
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:38.159
Yeah, or maybe it was some Darius who will make sure.

1335
01:00:38.219 --> 01:00:49.019
Maybe it was Darius, who will meet shortly, who's played by Edmund Warwick, who will later be the indistinguishable from the original...

1336
01:00:49.139 --> 01:00:51.239
Why did they bring him back for the final?

1337
01:00:51.300 --> 01:00:53.400
Why does everyone of Rosie was dead, I believe.

1338
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:54.719
He was horribly dead.

1339
01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:55.800
Why does everybody?

1340
01:00:55.860 --> 01:00:56.460
Oh, nice hands.

1341
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.860
Why does everybody rub up against, Oh, grab his arse.

1342
01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.760
You know you want to.

1343
01:00:59.820 --> 01:01:02.219
Yeah, that was very chaste, wasn't it?

1344
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:03.119
Very chaste.

1345
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.099
Oh, and then, which we didn't get to.

1346
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:05.699
Oh, also.

1347
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.460
Oh, that was...

1348
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:10.800
If we were going to do a 6 parter, why didn't I?

1349
01:01:10.860 --> 01:01:11.579
It was very angry.

1350
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:13.980
Why didn't you nominate the chase me?

1351
01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:15.000
Because this is yours.

1352
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.320
I would have preferred the Those are very Anglican rather than Catholic group, wasn't it?

1353
01:01:19.380 --> 01:01:20.159
Yes indeed.

1354
01:01:20.219 --> 01:01:21.059
Oh, hello.

1355
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:25.559
Are we going to get Peter Davis's exciting 1st memory of Doctor Who?

1356
01:01:25.739 --> 01:01:27.780
Yeah, that's when we find out about episode 15.

1357
01:01:28.019 --> 01:01:29.760
We'd still be here, do listen.

1358
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:30.360
Oh, no.

1359
01:01:30.420 --> 01:01:32.039
Also, that statue's washing its hair.

1360
01:01:32.099 --> 01:01:36.840
Also, ow, this is gonna really hurt.

1361
01:01:37.500 --> 01:01:39.719
As Nathan would say.

1362
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.659
No, seriously, this is panto.

1363
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:45.900
Behind you.

1364
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:48.960
She's not stirred, though.

1365
01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:51.960
Never mind.

1366
01:01:52.019 --> 01:01:53.519
Yeah, never mind about me saving your life.

1367
01:01:53.579 --> 01:01:54.780
Never mind about you being an idiot.

1368
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:55.380
I shouldn't.

1369
01:01:55.380 --> 01:01:59.400
I've just read the scripts for Reign of Terror.

1370
01:01:59.940 --> 01:02:02.699
Why are you so mild, Length?

1371
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.119
At which point are we stunned?

1372
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:10.320
should this episode booby trap?

1373
01:02:10.380 --> 01:02:11.460
Yeah, we should.

1374
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:12.420
Are you frozen?

1375
01:02:12.539 --> 01:02:14.219
She just said it.

1376
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:14.699
Yes.

1377
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:21.539
At which point do we realise that Babs and Ian decided to just, you know, go home?

1378
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:26.039
Oh, no, come on, from the 1st moment they met, they're the perfect couple.

1379
01:02:26.099 --> 01:02:28.380
Right, because they're sexless.

1380
01:02:28.380 --> 01:02:30.179
Spencer Tracy and Catherine Hepburn.

1381
01:02:30.179 --> 01:02:31.679
Sexless and disinterested, yeah.

1382
01:02:31.739 --> 01:02:34.019
Although to be...

1383
01:02:34.019 --> 01:02:40.320
In that Catherine Hepburn was obsessed with Spencer Tracy, Spencer Tracy was indifferent.

1384
01:02:40.380 --> 01:02:46.559
Catherine Hepburn actually liked very tall, thin, dark-haired women and Spencer Tracy was also queer.

1385
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:49.019
And that evidence is well out there.

1386
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.559
So yes, they are the perfect Pete Burner Trosey car.

1387
01:02:52.619 --> 01:02:58.260
Yeah, I just have to say, though, as gorgeous as I think William Russell is here, Spencer Tracy's hotter.

1388
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.000
Spencer Tracy liked, gentlemen not unlike yourself, actually, Brandon.

1389
01:03:03.059 --> 01:03:03.599
Awesome.

1390
01:03:03.659 --> 01:03:04.860
Also, eel.

1391
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.480
No, he's hot.

1392
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:08.760
Oh, he was a reeking alcoholic.

1393
01:03:08.820 --> 01:03:11.400
I'm just talking physically.

1394
01:03:11.460 --> 01:03:13.079
Hello, I'm right here.

1395
01:03:13.260 --> 01:03:15.179
You're both right.

1396
01:03:16.980 --> 01:03:18.960
Thank you, Todd.

1397
01:03:19.019 --> 01:03:21.059
I think that's the sound bite for the episode.

1398
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.940
That could be a title.

1399
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.039
But, you know, I'm just watching Jackie.

1400
01:03:26.099 --> 01:03:28.260
Meanwhile, I really...

1401
01:03:28.260 --> 01:03:34.260
Meanwhile, really, the budget's kicked in. indistinguishable from the area weasel.

1402
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.179
Beat me to it.

1403
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:41.760
I'll beat you later. whatever. creaking open.

1404
01:03:41.820 --> 01:03:43.559
Do you think it's overcall her bat?

1405
01:03:43.619 --> 01:03:45.420
Is it Altos from the future?

1406
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:46.739
What's happening here?

1407
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.400
His name's Darius or Darius or Darius Twin?

1408
01:03:50.460 --> 01:03:52.019
Come on in.

1409
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.019
Stop fondling. with such reverence.

1410
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:57.599
Hello, anyone there?

1411
01:03:58.260 --> 01:04:00.659
door. door.

1412
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.079
We don't have that many doors.

1413
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:06.119
Oh, man.

1414
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:06.900
Screaming.

1415
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:13.019
I actually don't think there is a Doctor Who story that couldn't be improved by a net falling on something at some point.

1416
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:14.099
It's fantastic.

1417
01:04:14.099 --> 01:04:14.940
Wind farm.

1418
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.340
This is like...

1419
01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:18.960
Indiana Jones before Indiana Jones.

1420
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:22.860
That's one of my favourite things.

1421
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:31.019
The thing about the rescue is like when all those blades come out the wall and sort of try and push them off the cliff into Sandy's waiting more.

1422
01:04:31.619 --> 01:04:34.380
The thing is, okay, that's well done.

1423
01:04:34.500 --> 01:04:35.760
Yeah, but really well done.

1424
01:04:35.820 --> 01:04:36.300
That was really fast.

1425
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.159
Why trigger that with a pickaxe?

1426
01:04:38.219 --> 01:04:40.619
Why is he going to try and get a pickaxe that's already moving?

1427
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:43.139
Sorry.

1428
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:45.179
I don't want to see her die, but really.

1429
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:46.860
Or Jacqueline.

1430
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:51.059
They're so wobbly. just like they're going to give you a malshiatsu massage.

1431
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.500
Chicken feet.

1432
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:55.260
I hate those two.

1433
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:56.099
I can't eat them.

1434
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:56.579
Do you eat?

1435
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:57.780
No, I don't eat.

1436
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:59.579
They're too grisly for me.

1437
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:01.559
She's been tortured by yum char.

1438
01:05:01.619 --> 01:05:04.260
No, but that's what the things look like in the rescue as well.

1439
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:05.699
They're not very convincing.

1440
01:05:05.699 --> 01:05:06.719
Well, you married.

1441
01:05:06.780 --> 01:05:08.280
Robert married into the culture didn't you?

1442
01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:12.480
I have eaten chicken's feet in order to impress my in-laws.

1443
01:05:12.539 --> 01:05:16.320
And well, I'm fairly impressive anyway, whether I do that or not.

1444
01:05:16.380 --> 01:05:18.719
Yeah, they're very pointy things. speaking of impressive people.

1445
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:21.119
This old fool.

1446
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.440
So it's Organon, the present apologise.

1447
01:05:25.500 --> 01:05:28.320
He was also a well-known homosexualist in real life.

1448
01:05:28.380 --> 01:05:29.579
It's not Jeffrey Balden.

1449
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:31.679
No, he is also...

1450
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:32.760
He escaped the death zone.

1451
01:05:34.139 --> 01:05:38.639
I just like that you were allowed to be an actor and not have, there was no Botox.

1452
01:05:38.699 --> 01:05:39.599
No, that's right.

1453
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:51.840
Well, you know, some actors, and I think Ian McKellen among them has said, the acting, the acting world's obsession with looks means that a lot of, a lot of very talented actors aren't.

1454
01:05:51.900 --> 01:05:57.900
No, sorry, it was Rory Kinnear because, you know, Rory Kinnear is not classically Brad Pitt or anything like that.

1455
01:05:57.960 --> 01:05:59.460
Never said no to a pie.

1456
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.440
But it's he's good looking.

1457
01:06:01.500 --> 01:06:02.699
He's got the plan.

1458
01:06:02.699 --> 01:06:03.300
He's very good actor.

1459
01:06:03.420 --> 01:06:06.659
You and I kind of think so, but the thing is, he's kind of said, you know what?

1460
01:06:06.659 --> 01:06:12.659
I know I know I'm kind of mid-range, but there's lots of actors who are being overlooked because of their looks.

1461
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:14.280
I just know where he's coming from.

1462
01:06:16.260 --> 01:06:18.420
I think he's fantastic.

1463
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:19.320
You've seen that episode.

1464
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:20.519
He's gorgeous.

1465
01:06:20.579 --> 01:06:21.539
Dark Mirror.

1466
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:23.280
Everything's just gorgeous.

1467
01:06:23.340 --> 01:06:26.400
When he plays David Cameron before David Cameron.

1468
01:06:26.460 --> 01:06:28.380
Yes, and the one that...

1469
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:29.460
The 1st men in the moon?

1470
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:31.139
Help me.

1471
01:06:31.139 --> 01:06:36.539
You've lived in there forever and like just now you decide to get strangled.

1472
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:39.719
Well, the thing is, his safe word is help me and the plants just aren't listening.

1473
01:06:39.780 --> 01:06:42.960
Oh, his safe words...

1474
01:06:43.019 --> 01:06:44.340
He can't remember how to spell it.

1475
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:51.360
Dude, listen, what colour do you think Babs's cardigan is right on the back of a past postcard and send...

1476
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:51.840
I actually know.

1477
01:06:51.900 --> 01:06:53.579
Pink or camel?

1478
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:56.039
It is it is baby blue.

1479
01:06:56.099 --> 01:06:57.539
It is very light blue.

1480
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:01.139
So she had that many of them because I've seen the camel one and I've seen the pink one.

1481
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:03.960
This poor man's just seen Eric say where.

1482
01:07:04.500 --> 01:07:06.539
The jungle is coming.

1483
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:10.019
I've just learned who's been cast as the 6th doctor, I think.

1484
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:11.579
Death, I tell you, death.

1485
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:12.360
No, Nate.

1486
01:07:12.420 --> 01:07:16.019
He's just learned what scripts are coming up in season 24.

1487
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:18.900
You love season 24.

1488
01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:19.800
I do not.

1489
01:07:19.860 --> 01:07:20.280
You do?

1490
01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:21.960
I've seen you enjoy it.

1491
01:07:22.019 --> 01:07:23.219
I've watched you.

1492
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:24.000
I never enjoyed it.

1493
01:07:24.059 --> 01:07:25.860
I an embarrassing pizza.

1494
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.900
I adore season 24.

1495
01:07:28.260 --> 01:07:29.219
And I actually do too.

1496
01:07:29.219 --> 01:07:31.019
And I'm glad Richard's going to be on that one.

1497
01:07:32.699 --> 01:07:36.239
Todd's totally lying because I've watched him watch it.

1498
01:07:36.300 --> 01:07:43.320
Well, I think I think what happens is you've watched Todd Watch Adulter in the Barrowman and he didn't projectile vomit that one time.

1499
01:07:43.380 --> 01:07:46.860
So, I mean, technically it's improvement.

1500
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:47.820
John and the Baron.

1501
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:49.199
John of the Baraban.

1502
01:07:49.260 --> 01:07:49.920
Still terrible.

1503
01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:53.820
Oh.

1504
01:07:53.820 --> 01:07:58.019
I'm in my trips. in Doctor Who of all time. is the worst actor.

1505
01:07:58.679 --> 01:07:59.880
There is Jenny Land.

1506
01:07:59.940 --> 01:08:00.780
No, he's worse.

1507
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:02.579
No, no, I think he's...

1508
01:08:02.579 --> 01:08:05.880
He's the lord president for Markham Infinity, and believe you me, he doesn't get much worse.

1509
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.800
Barrowman is worse because he goes on.

1510
01:08:07.980 --> 01:08:10.440
He's actually a lot better in Doctor Who than he is in Torchwood.

1511
01:08:10.500 --> 01:08:16.439
But the thing is, Torchwood doesn't serve everyone very well because it's like it's adults, so everyone has to be depressed.

1512
01:08:16.500 --> 01:08:18.420
You wouldn't push him out of bed, would you?

1513
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:19.079
Yeah, I would.

1514
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:21.239
Really would.

1515
01:08:21.300 --> 01:08:22.500
And you'd have this guy instead.

1516
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:23.520
Yep, totes.

1517
01:08:23.579 --> 01:08:24.420
Lovely.

1518
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.180
He's a beard.

1519
01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:29.760
He's a pushy controlling bottom.

1520
01:08:29.819 --> 01:08:32.520
I have to say, PCB.

1521
01:08:32.579 --> 01:08:33.659
You say that like it's a bad thing.

1522
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:35.699
All right.

1523
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:37.979
Oh, it changed the subject, suddenly.

1524
01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:39.720
Oh, thank goodness somebody's dying.

1525
01:08:39.779 --> 01:08:40.319
Oh, damn it.

1526
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:43.859
I'm already obsessed with this.

1527
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.880
If I could get death and disease and destruction into Doctor Who.

1528
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.000
Well the practical problem with leaving someone alone.

1529
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:54.300
That's your favourite episode, title day.

1530
01:08:54.300 --> 01:08:56.159
Going back here, it deserves as much death as you think.

1531
01:08:56.220 --> 01:08:56.880
Season 21.

1532
01:08:57.060 --> 01:08:58.020
You wait till you get to it.

1533
01:08:58.079 --> 01:08:59.340
There's massacres galore.

1534
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:04.739
And I was complaining last season, season 20 about not enough death and now it's gone the other way. you're sick of it.

1535
01:09:04.979 --> 01:09:08.880
Suddenly we're in Oscar Wilde's flowering ranging room.

1536
01:09:08.939 --> 01:09:11.220
What could possibly go wrong?

1537
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:12.899
It's a safe.

1538
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:15.060
Oh, a safe word.

1539
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:16.979
R23, oh, two.

1540
01:09:17.100 --> 01:09:19.739
This is where termination proves that you can't do dialogue.

1541
01:09:19.979 --> 01:09:22.979
Oh, this is where he previously.

1542
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.619
And because this is DE 302.

1543
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.060
I think because he's still alive at this point, we've got we've got Kenny Baker in there.

1544
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:32.039
That's DE 302.

1545
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:33.840
Oh, I thought he was the hand.

1546
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:34.680
Certainly not shoot.

1547
01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:35.579
Just stop it.

1548
01:09:36.180 --> 01:09:39.899
It's obviously one of those things that's meant to be a chemical formula.

1549
01:09:40.020 --> 01:09:40.920
Sorry, sorry.

1550
01:09:41.579 --> 01:09:46.319
Why is there a safe, just like an earth safe on an alien world?

1551
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:47.760
No, it's annoying me now.

1552
01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:49.260
That's all they could afford.

1553
01:09:49.380 --> 01:09:53.520
No, but no, it's the Paul writing. makes no sense.

1554
01:09:53.579 --> 01:09:54.899
No, well come on.

1555
01:09:54.960 --> 01:10:00.300
They're going to do an alien world and it's going to be full of telephones and microphones and shoes.

1556
01:10:01.140 --> 01:10:01.859
The safe is justice.

1557
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:02.579
Did you say shoes?

1558
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:03.420
Shoes.

1559
01:10:04.260 --> 01:10:06.239
I heard what you did there.

1560
01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:08.939
Listener, write in, listener.

1561
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:11.640
They're juice everywhere.

1562
01:10:11.699 --> 01:10:12.600
They're a juice in space.

1563
01:10:12.659 --> 01:10:13.439
I seen Mel Brooks.

1564
01:10:14.340 --> 01:10:18.600
Now, as you said, Nathan, it is friends have friends who are Jews, go on.

1565
01:10:18.659 --> 01:10:22.680
It is a chemical formula, which doesn't actually make sense with any of our...

1566
01:10:22.739 --> 01:10:24.420
DE302.

1567
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:29.399
Although the discontinuity guide speculates that it might be drivel dioxide. love it.

1568
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:36.960
Todd, or indeed Brendan, who's flexing his cast as we speak, because, you know, this is the kind of thing the listener likes to hear.

1569
01:10:37.020 --> 01:10:39.960
What were the what was the ratings for this episode?

1570
01:10:40.140 --> 01:10:42.779
It's crap, Todd.

1571
01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:44.220
You know what?

1572
01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:44.939
You're the expert.

1573
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:48.659
I'm actually not. actually quite stumped because I haven't looked this up, but I think it was...

1574
01:10:48.659 --> 01:10:49.319
You don't care.

1575
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:52.619
No. 9000000s to 10.

1576
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:53.460
No.

1577
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.020
Dr. Wade.

1578
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:56.939
Doctor Who's getting married?

1579
01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:57.659
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1580
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:03.420
Even even when Peter Davidson pulls his pants up and plays cricket, he only gets 7 points something.

1581
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.779
It's like there's virtually rationing still going.

1582
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:10.260
Okay, I have the figures here. have the figures here.

1583
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:11.159
I think it does tail off.

1584
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:12.420
Episode one, 9.9.

1585
01:11:12.539 --> 01:11:14.100
That's amazing.

1586
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:15.119
9.4?

1587
01:11:15.180 --> 01:11:17.100
This episode 9.9.

1588
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:17.880
What?

1589
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.500
Next week, 10.4.

1590
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:20.760
No.

1591
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:22.140
Does it drop off towards the end?

1592
01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:22.680
It does.

1593
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:27.180
7.9 and 6.9.

1594
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:28.800
Yes, thank you, Britain.

1595
01:11:28.859 --> 01:11:31.560
Britain immediately post the war.

1596
01:11:31.619 --> 01:11:33.840
Like there's rationing still going on.

1597
01:11:33.899 --> 01:11:35.220
This is 64.

1598
01:11:35.460 --> 01:11:36.300
And then...

1599
01:11:36.300 --> 01:11:36.659
64.

1600
01:11:36.779 --> 01:11:37.500
Yeah, I know.

1601
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:41.039
There's 2 channels that haven't even invented masculation.

1602
01:11:41.100 --> 01:11:43.859
Hey, they did have centrinians there.

1603
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:45.239
Sorry, Todd.

1604
01:11:45.300 --> 01:11:46.199
My ears are burning.

1605
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:47.640
This is just unacceptable.

1606
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:49.319
The ratings.

1607
01:11:49.380 --> 01:11:50.699
There an unearthly screeching sound.

1608
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:55.800
There you go. 10000000 people were in love with Barbara.

1609
01:11:55.859 --> 01:11:56.819
Why wasn't it 40?

1610
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.260
Yeah, no.

1611
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.340
Actually, how many people owned televisions?

1612
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:03.600
Yeah, what was the population?

1613
01:12:03.659 --> 01:12:04.199
don't know.

1614
01:12:04.260 --> 01:12:08.399
I think the population mostly sold them to everyone. by this point.

1615
01:12:08.460 --> 01:12:12.539
Well, the population of the UK currently is around 60 million.

1616
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:14.159
In 1964.

1617
01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:14.880
No, now.

1618
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.680
What was it in 64?

1619
01:12:16.859 --> 01:12:20.279
I don't know, but I'm thinking 25, 30 million.

1620
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.460
I'm making a prediction.

1621
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.680
Use the webby...

1622
01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:26.939
I think it was more like the 30.

1623
01:12:27.180 --> 01:12:27.539
Oh, look.

1624
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.479
Oh, it's the crinoline. immigration had started.

1625
01:12:30.539 --> 01:12:33.960
Oh my goodness, he was the crenoid all along.

1626
01:12:34.020 --> 01:12:35.880
He was the Captain Peacock all the time.

1627
01:12:35.939 --> 01:12:37.140
That is such an in joke.

1628
01:12:37.380 --> 01:12:43.500
Maybe Altos is actually Harrison Chase. fresh breath mint.

1629
01:12:44.460 --> 01:12:50.220
That's Mentos. my favourite Doctor Who villain of all time.

1630
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:51.180
Really?

1631
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:53.699
He's the Kenneth Williams we never had.

1632
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.039
Who's your favourite Doctor Who villain of all time?

1633
01:12:56.100 --> 01:13:00.359
My favourite Dr. Villain of all time would have to be...

1634
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:01.020
Colin Baker.

1635
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:01.800
Best store.

1636
01:13:01.859 --> 01:13:06.119
Yes, he is. really good.

1637
01:13:06.180 --> 01:13:07.319
And I've got to defend that.

1638
01:13:07.380 --> 01:13:10.380
Oh, well, not yet.

1639
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:12.239
No, I'm making that up.

1640
01:13:12.300 --> 01:13:15.239
So the favourite of 2 villain of all time.

1641
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:17.880
Eric Sand.

1642
01:13:17.939 --> 01:13:19.680
Oh, look, there's a...

1643
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.479
So, Barbara, what was your favourite?

1644
01:13:21.539 --> 01:13:23.939
My favourite Doctor Who villain of all time.

1645
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.739
No, you're Ian.

1646
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:28.380
No, I'm not sure.

1647
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:29.159
Oh, come on.

1648
01:13:29.220 --> 01:13:30.840
Strangely enough.

1649
01:13:30.899 --> 01:13:32.100
Oh sorry.

1650
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:33.300
Julian Glover, I think.

1651
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:33.840
Obviously.

1652
01:13:34.260 --> 01:13:36.300
I'd go for Dubai.

1653
01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:37.439
I go for Tobias Vaughan.

1654
01:13:37.500 --> 01:13:39.899
Oh, yes, no, that's crazy.

1655
01:13:40.140 --> 01:13:43.560
To know what possible other answer could there?

1656
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:44.939
You've already had the chin.

1657
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.079
And they found...

1658
01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:47.760
They found the...

1659
01:13:47.819 --> 01:13:49.920
They found the DS9 isolinear rod.

1660
01:13:49.979 --> 01:13:51.600
There we are. which is exactly the same.

1661
01:13:51.659 --> 01:13:52.859
So young Brendan.

1662
01:13:52.859 --> 01:13:57.180
Population of the UK in the night in 1960 was actually 53 million.

1663
01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:59.640
And it's only 65 million now.

1664
01:13:59.699 --> 01:14:02.039
Okay, because we killed all of them.

1665
01:14:02.100 --> 01:14:06.420
So 20% of the population was watching this?

1666
01:14:06.539 --> 01:14:07.979
right. fantastic.

1667
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:11.939
And the thing is, even now, 10% of the population watch Doctor Who.

1668
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.520
Under Capaldi, did they watch?

1669
01:14:14.579 --> 01:14:15.300
Under Capaldi.

1670
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.279
His ratings are averaging 6 million.

1671
01:14:17.699 --> 01:14:19.319
My goodness.

1672
01:14:19.380 --> 01:14:21.899
That's a bit tragic, though, because how many were watching Tenant?

1673
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:22.199
10.

1674
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:22.680
10.

1675
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.739
Oh, yeah. it's a different one.

1676
01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:27.119
It's always going to drop off.

1677
01:14:27.180 --> 01:14:29.279
I think it's a different media landscape.

1678
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:32.039
And I also think the show is older than it was.

1679
01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:34.739
You know, like people are watching on different platforms.

1680
01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:37.859
There's lot of channels even now and you are right.

1681
01:14:38.340 --> 01:14:40.380
It is going to drop off.

1682
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:42.359
It's never going to be as big as it was under 10.

1683
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:44.939
He's drawing his fingernails by waving his hand in the air.

1684
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:45.359
So go on.

1685
01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:52.199
Because we are going to take a slight toilet break, dear listener, we have to stop talking by the end of the credits, but we will rejoin you for episodes four.

1686
01:14:52.260 --> 01:14:53.520
You don't need to pause at all.

1687
01:14:53.579 --> 01:14:54.239
Just keep playing.

1688
01:14:54.300 --> 01:14:54.960
Thank you for listening.

1689
01:14:55.140 --> 01:14:58.079
I hardly believe you'll still be here, but go on.

1690
01:15:01.140 --> 01:15:02.640
John Gory, you're crap.

1691
01:15:05.699 --> 01:15:07.920
Well, I refuse.

1692
01:15:07.979 --> 01:15:08.640
What about you?

1693
01:15:08.699 --> 01:15:09.720
Welcome back.

1694
01:15:09.779 --> 01:15:16.800
It's a flight through entire cheese part 2 of the wonderful keys of Particle Marines.

1695
01:15:16.859 --> 01:15:17.939
Yeah, that's it.

1696
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:26.220
We're the only Doctor Who podcast still going after 3 episodes of the keys of Mariners.

1697
01:15:26.460 --> 01:15:27.779
That's one of the ratings for this one?

1698
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.239
A million...

1699
01:15:30.300 --> 01:15:31.920
10.4 for this episode.

1700
01:15:31.979 --> 01:15:33.060
Just for that scene.

1701
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:39.060
Tuned in to cover William Russell and Jackie Hill in Jabalite.

1702
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:41.220
They're in deep distress.

1703
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:47.819
Now, of course, it's been it's been 4 trips to the toilet for us, but mere seconds for you, dear listener, that's the nature of time travel.

1704
01:15:47.939 --> 01:15:49.199
I'm too tired.

1705
01:15:49.260 --> 01:15:50.640
It's all measured in urine.

1706
01:15:50.699 --> 01:15:51.720
Go to sleep.

1707
01:15:51.779 --> 01:15:53.640
Sleep in the snow.

1708
01:15:53.699 --> 01:15:54.659
Oh, come on, Barbara.

1709
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:55.619
Don't do that.

1710
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:56.579
You're fabulous.

1711
01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.380
You're wearing a jumper.

1712
01:15:58.439 --> 01:15:59.520
Ian is wearing.

1713
01:15:59.579 --> 01:16:02.460
I just say that linen. great acting from William Russell.

1714
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:03.300
She outacted him.

1715
01:16:03.300 --> 01:16:03.600
Yes.

1716
01:16:03.659 --> 01:16:04.260
Yeah, nothing else then.

1717
01:16:04.380 --> 01:16:05.340
Well, as usual.

1718
01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:06.420
Exactly.

1719
01:16:06.420 --> 01:16:07.680
You know what, rules of terror?

1720
01:16:07.739 --> 01:16:08.819
I just love Terry Nation.

1721
01:16:08.819 --> 01:16:13.739
Screaming jungle, the snooze of terror, the script of boredom.

1722
01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:14.760
Ex of wine.

1723
01:16:14.939 --> 01:16:17.399
What do we think of termination?

1724
01:16:17.460 --> 01:16:18.720
I actually quite like him.

1725
01:16:18.779 --> 01:16:20.100
Yeah, actually too as well.

1726
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:24.239
You hated Planet of the Daleks, though. the 1970s.

1727
01:16:24.300 --> 01:16:25.199
This is the 60s.

1728
01:16:25.260 --> 01:16:25.979
Anything's forgivable.

1729
01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:26.939
So you're kind of fresh.

1730
01:16:27.060 --> 01:16:30.720
Yeah, by the 70s, he's kind of just doing the same old crap.

1731
01:16:30.779 --> 01:16:31.739
It's been...

1732
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:33.239
It's Francis de Wolf, hasn't it?

1733
01:16:33.300 --> 01:16:34.140
isn't that his wolf?

1734
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:36.180
Francis Wolf.

1735
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:38.699
I'm James Bond's from Russia with Love.

1736
01:16:38.819 --> 01:16:42.239
And from the Tomorrow People's Slaves of Jedicar.

1737
01:16:42.300 --> 01:16:42.899
Yes, that's right.

1738
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:44.279
He's he's Jedakana.

1739
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:45.000
Jedekiah.

1740
01:16:45.060 --> 01:16:45.359
Yes.

1741
01:16:45.420 --> 01:16:48.060
So also some lovely backcoming.

1742
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:49.979
Everyone's trying to do Babs' hair in this story.

1743
01:16:50.100 --> 01:16:53.819
Terry Nation. a bit of a potty in, if you like that kind of thing.

1744
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.000
Well, Stalin, if you like Stalin, he's great.

1745
01:16:57.420 --> 01:17:08.279
If you like being chased around the coffee table by some reeking guy clad in furs who hasn't had a bath for a long time, he's gorgeous.

1746
01:17:08.460 --> 01:17:10.680
Well, it is almost Saturday.

1747
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:14.760
Oh, this is just...

1748
01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.760
I'm sorry.

1749
01:17:17.819 --> 01:17:20.579
I'd be saying, so you want to stay for coffee?

1750
01:17:20.819 --> 01:17:23.100
It is gorgeous.

1751
01:17:23.699 --> 01:17:26.760
It's actually John Richards, the writer about that.

1752
01:17:26.819 --> 01:17:27.899
This is really disturbing.

1753
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:29.460
It is, he...

1754
01:17:29.460 --> 01:17:34.439
Well, Richard, you do know that John Richards listens to it. very fond of...

1755
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:35.340
I am Vasor.

1756
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:36.359
Is that not Vaseline?

1757
01:17:36.420 --> 01:17:38.159
I should mention to...

1758
01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:39.600
He does not. things to do.

1759
01:17:39.659 --> 01:17:46.920
I should mention to the listeners that John Richards, who we're discussing, works for the ABC, was one of the creat- he is hot.

1760
01:17:46.979 --> 01:17:50.819
He was one of the creators of Outland, which was about...

1761
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.359
My favourite, actually my favourite little lampoonie sci-fi thing, all time.

1762
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:58.020
It's the Futurama live action thing we never had.

1763
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:01.920
Yeah, it's a gay science fiction fan club, and especially Doctor Who fans.

1764
01:18:01.979 --> 01:18:08.939
But John Richard was also the driving force behind the Splendid Chaps podcast, which was the inspiration for the entirety Todd over to you.

1765
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.220
We just had some educational thing there.

1766
01:18:11.699 --> 01:18:12.539
What happened to Frostbite?

1767
01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.659
putting our hands near the fire and actually just then just rubbing them.

1768
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:17.819
Very useful for any...

1769
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:20.399
I think Vasor may have had...

1770
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:22.079
Ropey bacteria motive there.

1771
01:18:22.140 --> 01:18:24.899
As Nathan used to call it Barbara and Ian together.

1772
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.899
No, the thing is, I agree.

1773
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:30.600
I think that, um, Go on.

1774
01:18:30.659 --> 01:18:31.739
I don't know.

1775
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:35.159
Well, that is true about frostbite, that you shouldn't warm the hands too quickly.

1776
01:18:35.220 --> 01:18:37.079
See, we are educational.

1777
01:18:37.140 --> 01:18:40.859
And because it's Barbara, it just comes across as natural.

1778
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:41.699
It's not.

1779
01:18:42.180 --> 01:18:43.199
Do you know, Susan?

1780
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:45.720
We still use the word hashashin in English today?

1781
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:50.819
Barbara's face just fucking covered that line.

1782
01:18:51.300 --> 01:18:53.699
The educational podcast.

1783
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.680
Oh, John Lucarate.

1784
01:18:55.739 --> 01:18:56.220
We love it.

1785
01:18:56.279 --> 01:19:01.979
There's actually nothing on Francis De Wolfe's face that actually works together.

1786
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.819
You can play the Billy Piper thing. like, which is the most Yiddish?

1787
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.000
Is it the, the, there's that scary nose?

1788
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:11.279
No, it is actually No, I take that back.

1789
01:19:11.340 --> 01:19:13.380
It's actually, no, it's actually doing.

1790
01:19:13.500 --> 01:19:16.079
It's actually, it's actually style and fuzzy film.

1791
01:19:16.140 --> 01:19:19.979
Like what's the scariest thing is, yes, is it the scariest beard?

1792
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:21.659
Is the scary pointy nose?

1793
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:24.899
Is that the he's really ironing the way with a beard, isn't he?

1794
01:19:25.020 --> 01:19:26.579
There's nothing...

1795
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:32.579
Actually, I have, I have some European relatives that look not unlike.

1796
01:19:32.579 --> 01:19:33.840
Oh, he's just...

1797
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:34.979
That being...

1798
01:19:34.979 --> 01:19:37.500
Also, De Wolf, he's called De Wolf.

1799
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:38.640
You can't hold twat.

1800
01:19:38.699 --> 01:19:39.779
Come on. your real name?

1801
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:41.279
It's Gabriel De Wolf.

1802
01:19:41.340 --> 01:19:42.359
No, you're people.

1803
01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:43.920
Oh, Gabriel.

1804
01:19:43.979 --> 01:19:46.560
No, he was Gabriel Dubble.

1805
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:51.720
You just didn't see Nathan's hands gesture.

1806
01:19:51.779 --> 01:19:53.880
Oh, sure.

1807
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:55.439
She is the 5th podcaster after all.

1808
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:56.220
I'm allergic.

1809
01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:58.199
That's what you say.

1810
01:19:58.260 --> 01:20:00.840
Mary Tyler Moore, the Mary Tyler Moore show.

1811
01:20:00.899 --> 01:20:04.560
Mary gets Soutex Frock. she?

1812
01:20:04.619 --> 01:20:06.600
Oh, that's going up on the page.

1813
01:20:07.260 --> 01:20:07.920
Put that up there.

1814
01:20:07.979 --> 01:20:09.779
Yes, she actually does wear.

1815
01:20:10.619 --> 01:20:13.020
Yeah, she looks like Suitech.

1816
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:15.420
And the thing is...

1817
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:20.039
The screen grabs I managed to get, she's giving people side eyes, as you would imagine.

1818
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:21.539
And they're glowing green.

1819
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:22.319
Not side boobs.

1820
01:20:22.380 --> 01:20:22.979
Sorry, Jack.

1821
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:24.720
Oh, James.

1822
01:20:24.779 --> 01:20:26.579
What is Ian wearing right now?

1823
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:31.140
Or something that's going to keep his body warm, but his hands are just going to drop off.

1824
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:36.300
Well, the thing is, I'm more worried about Altos's legs, actually, in this episode.

1825
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:37.439
Are you really?

1826
01:20:37.500 --> 01:20:41.399
I think you might be really pleasantly surprised shortly because they might...

1827
01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.439
Is there a way of keeping it warm?

1828
01:20:43.500 --> 01:20:44.699
Oh, there is, there is.

1829
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:45.779
Elevate them?

1830
01:20:46.500 --> 01:20:48.359
Hello, mate.

1831
01:20:48.420 --> 01:20:50.220
Elevate.

1832
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:51.659
Oh, did you see the log?

1833
01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:52.439
Aviate.

1834
01:20:52.500 --> 01:20:54.119
Oh, Christ.

1835
01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:56.039
Oh, we just did the locky thing.

1836
01:20:56.100 --> 01:21:00.960
Okay, how many times in 2 years does Barbara get raped?

1837
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:02.279
rapey, rapey eyes.

1838
01:21:02.340 --> 01:21:04.380
Not quite as often.

1839
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:06.840
No, thanks, Eric, say a word.

1840
01:21:06.899 --> 01:21:07.380
Yeah.

1841
01:21:07.380 --> 01:21:10.739
God, she's really going to hate you right now.

1842
01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:13.739
Yeah, why does it, why are you in 20 years?

1843
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:16.079
Oh, oh, there's...

1844
01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:17.399
How does she get rape threats?

1845
01:21:17.460 --> 01:21:19.619
It is really only this and then...

1846
01:21:19.619 --> 01:21:21.300
This, an unearthly child?

1847
01:21:21.420 --> 01:21:22.979
Oh, okay.

1848
01:21:22.979 --> 01:21:24.899
Look, here we go.

1849
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:27.359
Crusade.

1850
01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:28.859
It's a hilarious race.

1851
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:30.000
That's right.

1852
01:21:30.060 --> 01:21:31.500
Oh, and the Crusade, of course.

1853
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:32.640
So 4 times.

1854
01:21:32.699 --> 01:21:35.520
Oh, he's his hands are bound.

1855
01:21:35.579 --> 01:21:36.420
Well, you know what?

1856
01:21:37.260 --> 01:21:41.699
I think with Vaseol living up in the mountain, He doesn't really mind whether you're a boy or a girl.

1857
01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:42.659
He's lonely.

1858
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:46.920
And look, I actually think some of those skins on the wall didn't have an easy time getting up there.

1859
01:21:46.979 --> 01:21:49.020
Are they really?

1860
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:50.340
No, really?

1861
01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:51.840
Well, we'd say no.

1862
01:21:51.899 --> 01:21:55.859
Well, I find his, I find his bedside manner quite charming.

1863
01:21:55.920 --> 01:21:57.239
And his musk.

1864
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:00.479
For the listener at home.

1865
01:22:00.539 --> 01:22:01.140
That's a glam.

1866
01:22:01.260 --> 01:22:08.699
I will just say it is hard to tenderise your venison when you're this high up in the mountains, so...

1867
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:09.600
That's it.

1868
01:22:10.500 --> 01:22:12.239
I have no problem.

1869
01:22:13.380 --> 01:22:16.439
He's been he's like Unique, but he owns 5 Apple watchers.

1870
01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:17.880
Sabita's chain.

1871
01:22:17.939 --> 01:22:19.140
How does he have?

1872
01:22:19.140 --> 01:22:19.800
Where did you get?

1873
01:22:19.859 --> 01:22:20.579
of the keys.

1874
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:24.000
Well, he doesn't have 5 of the keys, but he has 4 of the travel dials.

1875
01:22:25.500 --> 01:22:28.079
There's nothing sexy about him.

1876
01:22:28.140 --> 01:22:30.960
He's like an evil, creepy Santa.

1877
01:22:31.020 --> 01:22:34.260
He's like he's like Joe Hockey and John Howard had a baby.

1878
01:22:34.380 --> 01:22:38.220
Yeah, and he was coming after you. around the coffee table.

1879
01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:41.520
And oh, with that thought deal listener, they just went back inside.

1880
01:22:41.699 --> 01:22:49.260
He just looks like the reason most of those Povo countries in Europe aren't allowed into the ECC.

1881
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:51.060
So, Eurovision, though.

1882
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:51.899
Eurovision, that's fine.

1883
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:54.180
Can we talk about something slightly triggering?

1884
01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:58.260
Because this is sort of problematic with the...

1885
01:22:58.260 --> 01:22:59.279
Lovely war texture.

1886
01:22:59.340 --> 01:23:00.300
Is that what you talking about?

1887
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:07.020
We did talk about it when we originally covered this episode and it isn't something that Doctor Who does again.

1888
01:23:07.079 --> 01:23:11.039
Well, it's it's almost as bad in the crusade.

1889
01:23:11.100 --> 01:23:13.979
It's not quite, it's not quite as violent in the television.

1890
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:17.880
This is the most immediate until Perry is seduced by a slug.

1891
01:23:17.939 --> 01:23:18.779
Yes.

1892
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:19.319
Yes.

1893
01:23:19.380 --> 01:23:20.100
Sorry.

1894
01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:22.979
But even then, this is this is possibly...

1895
01:23:22.979 --> 01:23:24.060
And you're Canos.

1896
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:33.479
I was going to say, sorry about that, Brian Blessed, but I mean, it is until that, it's, this is actually an entire, this is a seduction scene.

1897
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:37.859
No, this is a, it's a one-sided...

1898
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:41.699
It is awful, but the thing is they're not not playing it.

1899
01:23:41.819 --> 01:23:43.319
Hey, here we go.

1900
01:23:43.380 --> 01:23:45.840
And on the other hand, in this seduction scene.

1901
01:23:47.579 --> 01:23:49.319
How are your legs?

1902
01:23:49.380 --> 01:23:53.460
There's also bad stuff happens in the time meddler as well, doesn't it?

1903
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:54.659
That's very true.

1904
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:56.039
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1905
01:23:56.100 --> 01:23:57.300
But I'm in a regular character.

1906
01:23:57.359 --> 01:23:58.859
I mean, what's her face?

1907
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:00.600
What's her name?

1908
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:01.439
Richard Franklin.

1909
01:24:01.500 --> 01:24:02.159
Yeah, yeah.

1910
01:24:02.220 --> 01:24:06.960
Richard Franklin, in the time Medler, who does get a horny cow hat.

1911
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:13.020
No, she gets like totally kind of ravished and stuff and then is up making everyone tea the following episode.

1912
01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:15.600
It is awful. pretty much.

1913
01:24:15.659 --> 01:24:16.079
Yeah.

1914
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:19.199
I think the important thing is, oh, it's given him...

1915
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:24.119
I give I totally had that when I was in Seoul.

1916
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:25.020
Did you?

1917
01:24:25.020 --> 01:24:26.699
Actually, I thought it was so cool.

1918
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:28.319
You know, you know what?

1919
01:24:28.380 --> 01:24:34.439
The wrestlers are doing the coat check at a dance party later this year, and I'm sure there'll be men carrying around bags of meat.

1920
01:24:34.500 --> 01:24:35.640
At least that's how I understand it.

1921
01:24:35.699 --> 01:24:39.840
But no, the, the, the, the, do listener, if you care to attend.

1922
01:24:39.899 --> 01:24:44.039
The thing is, with this scene with Barbara and...

1923
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.020
And the sequence...

1924
01:24:46.020 --> 01:24:46.560
This is awful.

1925
01:24:46.619 --> 01:24:47.640
Yeah, it is.

1926
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:53.819
Barbara is actually really realising that her personal disposition is about to be inflanged and it's not a good thing.

1927
01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:57.060
No, no, but it's I'm in no hurry, he said, but really.

1928
01:24:57.060 --> 01:25:04.920
It's important that it is portrayed, it's, in a way, it's important that it's portrayed warts and all. not portrayed as a joke.

1929
01:25:04.979 --> 01:25:07.079
I'm sorry, did you just say wars?

1930
01:25:07.140 --> 01:25:10.920
No, no, but I still have a problem with it being family entertainment.

1931
01:25:10.979 --> 01:25:12.600
Yes, that's also...

1932
01:25:12.659 --> 01:25:15.000
Well, I know I love that you get the duality.

1933
01:25:15.060 --> 01:25:16.199
There's something for the grown-ups.

1934
01:25:16.260 --> 01:25:17.100
The kids wouldn't even notice.

1935
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:18.119
No, no.

1936
01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:20.939
You know, as a kid, I didn't pick up. you wouldn't pick up on it.

1937
01:25:20.939 --> 01:25:23.220
As an adult, this is really awful.

1938
01:25:23.340 --> 01:25:24.359
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1939
01:25:24.420 --> 01:25:27.300
But I love the Doctor Who can do adult entertainment.

1940
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:28.619
It isn't a kids' show.

1941
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.119
He wants her hair.

1942
01:25:30.539 --> 01:25:38.640
He is a monster and she is fabulous and also, why would he have paused at that point?

1943
01:25:38.699 --> 01:25:43.739
But no, this is actually one of the most powerful. the most powerful.

1944
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:46.020
Yeah, yeah, yeah. the most powerful.

1945
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:47.340
Yeah, yeah, Ian.

1946
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:50.880
The most powerful scene in Doctor Who, possibly of all time.

1947
01:25:50.939 --> 01:25:53.579
But she should have pushed him into the fire, though.

1948
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:57.300
Well, that's what you and I will done, but that's because we're like that.

1949
01:25:57.359 --> 01:25:59.640
But the thing the thing with Barbara is.

1950
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:05.100
Barbara, I don't think ever takes a life even when her own is threatened.

1951
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:05.939
No, she doesn't.

1952
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:07.619
Not like Nathan and Richard.

1953
01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:09.840
And unlike Nathan and Richard.

1954
01:26:09.899 --> 01:26:13.380
Well, Todd just kills them before...

1955
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:15.960
Todd just kills me before he enters the room.

1956
01:26:16.020 --> 01:26:16.560
Yeah.

1957
01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.260
And and me, he hates everything.

1958
01:26:19.380 --> 01:26:21.600
And, you know, me.

1959
01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:23.460
Look, when the stress gets changed.

1960
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.279
Also, also, hello, Sappho.

1961
01:26:26.340 --> 01:26:26.819
Hello.

1962
01:26:27.779 --> 01:26:30.000
Sappho and Sabitha.

1963
01:26:30.060 --> 01:26:30.479
Yes.

1964
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:32.579
It was a great cop show, wasn't it?

1965
01:26:32.699 --> 01:26:35.100
Look, you know, when the Australian...

1966
01:26:35.100 --> 01:26:36.899
This is like the moment Louise here.

1967
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:39.659
Where's the fricking cliff when you need it?

1968
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:39.960
Okay.

1969
01:26:40.020 --> 01:26:45.060
I'm so, it's just awful in this and I love her and she's still awful.

1970
01:26:45.180 --> 01:26:47.100
The problem is she's catching.

1971
01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:48.840
It's very beautiful.

1972
01:26:48.899 --> 01:26:49.560
She is.

1973
01:26:49.619 --> 01:26:51.000
What are you trying to say?

1974
01:26:51.060 --> 01:26:57.060
She's very unique, but I just think she looks really unique.

1975
01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:02.100
You know, sort of like, she has a beauty about her, but can...

1976
01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:05.819
Oh, you're just being blonde centric because you're lovely and blonde yourself.

1977
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:08.880
The thing is, they They also haven't given Carol...

1978
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.100
They haven't given Carol a great one costume in this.

1979
01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:14.819
One is swinging 60s and the other one's set back in the 50s.

1980
01:27:15.060 --> 01:27:16.859
Look, you know what?

1981
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:22.500
We have we have received a notion of what Caroline Ford's acting is like.

1982
01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:25.439
She's actually no worse or better than anybody else on screen right now.

1983
01:27:25.500 --> 01:27:31.140
No, and only there's only can only be one Jacqueline Hill, like there's only one son at the centre of the system.

1984
01:27:31.260 --> 01:27:43.380
You know, I've been thinking about a lot about Susan's character recently because I've been asked to write an essay on the Dalek Invasion of Earth and how that changes the series.

1985
01:27:43.380 --> 01:27:45.300
And I've always said that I prefer, doesn't it?

1986
01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:46.380
I prefer Vicky to Susan.

1987
01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:58.020
And I think the essential reason is, as I said, in episode one of this commentary, I have no problem with Carol Anne's performance and I think she gives a wonderful performance with really often quite poor material.

1988
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:02.460
I think the problem is the material makes her character into a pessimist.

1989
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:04.800
And this is...

1990
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:12.180
And Ian and Barbara, even though they're stolen away from home, they're often quite enthusiastic about my thing, isn't she, the whole time?

1991
01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:14.880
Whereas Vicki is...

1992
01:28:14.939 --> 01:28:16.560
Davidson's 1st memory, kids.

1993
01:28:16.619 --> 01:28:18.180
Yes, yes, that's right.

1994
01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:22.260
But yeah, it was actually born during this very, very...

1995
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.239
But like you said, Speak it out right now.

1996
01:28:24.300 --> 01:28:26.279
Vicky is excited to be there.

1997
01:28:26.340 --> 01:28:26.880
Exactly.

1998
01:28:26.939 --> 01:28:28.560
Makes a big difference.

1999
01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:29.760
What were you saying, son?

2000
01:28:29.819 --> 01:28:32.460
No, I was just getting back to the action on screen.

2001
01:28:32.579 --> 01:28:34.859
We were going across this rope bridge.

2002
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:39.720
I think it's better than what did they spend a whole episode jumping across in the dead planet?

2003
01:28:39.779 --> 01:28:40.380
Like, you know?

2004
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:40.859
Yeah.

2005
01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:42.600
They've improved things a bit.

2006
01:28:42.659 --> 01:28:44.340
By adding a bridge?

2007
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:45.539
Bridge creaking.

2008
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.399
That's made it across.

2009
01:28:47.460 --> 01:28:49.439
That's no way to describe Catherine Saltville.

2010
01:28:50.579 --> 01:28:54.359
It's like, yeah, literally, they could have...

2011
01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:56.699
This is 1964 and blink and you've missed that.

2012
01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.859
Yeah, they're doing very well.

2013
01:28:58.859 --> 01:29:00.300
I think it's amazing.

2014
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.180
Why are they some...

2015
01:29:03.180 --> 01:29:05.699
Yeah, there's a lot of...

2016
01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:10.199
Why are we suddenly all chummy with... or the raby guy?

2017
01:29:10.260 --> 01:29:13.199
He needs to go down this chasm into nothing.

2018
01:29:13.260 --> 01:29:14.640
I actually can't remember what happens to him.

2019
01:29:14.699 --> 01:29:21.479
Do you think he actually becomes a famous men's rights activist or joins gamer gate or something?

2020
01:29:21.539 --> 01:29:22.859
What's happening to him?

2021
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:23.640
He already is.

2022
01:29:23.699 --> 01:29:25.739
Do you know this show's called Doctor Who?

2023
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.140
I'd forgotten that the doctor wasn't in.

2024
01:29:28.260 --> 01:29:31.079
Actually, how long has it been since we've seen Billy?

2025
01:29:31.140 --> 01:29:33.960
This is his 2nd episode. his 2nd week off.

2026
01:29:34.020 --> 01:29:41.760
And we just missed a bit where there was more footage missing when Barbara went across the bridge, so they reversed a little bit of footage of Ian and Vasor.

2027
01:29:42.659 --> 01:29:45.720
They look like Barbara when you're averse them?

2028
01:29:45.779 --> 01:29:51.479
Well, you see, what happens is they keep Barbara walking across the bridge while they reverse the right hand side of the frame.

2029
01:29:51.539 --> 01:29:56.939
It's very clever I just can't believe that his legs are...

2030
01:29:57.060 --> 01:29:58.140
You bad guy.

2031
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:01.319
Well, also, kind of nice calves.

2032
01:30:01.380 --> 01:30:02.340
You're all stupid.

2033
01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:05.579
They're stupid.

2034
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:10.800
I'm about to guest star in the biggest show of all time, the tomorrow people.

2035
01:30:10.859 --> 01:30:14.699
I've only got to sit on this shelf for 10 years and I'll be a star.

2036
01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:17.640
Todd, what was that you were saying about Robin Phillips' legs?

2037
01:30:17.699 --> 01:30:19.439
I believe.

2038
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:21.659
Three episodes later?

2039
01:30:21.659 --> 01:30:22.920
Get warm.

2040
01:30:22.979 --> 01:30:26.100
They must be impervious to cold.

2041
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:30.119
Well, Todd, if you put your legs down for a moment, the rest of us could watch this.

2042
01:30:30.180 --> 01:30:32.220
Now, just jealous.

2043
01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:39.239
Now, the thing is, this is a connection I'm going to make, but some listeners may make, but I don't think any of any of you will make.

2044
01:30:39.300 --> 01:30:41.399
At the same time, I 1st watched this as a child.

2045
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:47.760
I had a rather wonderful game, which has often come top of game video games of all timeless.

2046
01:30:47.819 --> 01:30:48.600
What do you think this is going?

2047
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:51.840
The legend, the legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time.

2048
01:30:51.899 --> 01:30:52.560
Oh, yes.

2049
01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:54.180
Which it has an idea.

2050
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:55.380
I hated those things.

2051
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:56.760
I don't even know what he's talking about.

2052
01:30:56.819 --> 01:30:57.420
I want watch this.

2053
01:30:57.479 --> 01:30:58.079
You blow this.

2054
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:00.300
Sorry, the famous girl. blow into them, girl.

2055
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:01.560
It has an ice cave.

2056
01:31:01.619 --> 01:31:02.939
Oh stop it.

2057
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:08.460
And, you know, so this is computer graphics in 1996 looks every bit as good as this set.

2058
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:10.859
Yeah, that's not really flattering either.

2059
01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:16.619
Have you signed up for the new Mario game on the iPhone?

2060
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:18.539
I didn't know you could sign up yet.

2061
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:19.199
Can you sign up yet?

2062
01:31:19.260 --> 01:31:20.579
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2063
01:31:20.939 --> 01:31:22.199
For the Doctor Who fans at home.

2064
01:31:22.260 --> 01:31:24.300
Are you talking about Nintendo?

2065
01:31:24.359 --> 01:31:26.100
What, it's a new Susan Foreman game.

2066
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:27.180
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2067
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:34.560
You just sit there and just grimace at the screen. panic about a bunch of stuff This is Peter Davis.

2068
01:31:34.619 --> 01:31:35.760
You can't possibly do things.

2069
01:31:35.819 --> 01:31:37.199
Hello, Doctor Who.

2070
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:40.020
There's a rant, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to have my head cut off.

2071
01:31:40.140 --> 01:31:42.479
Ship over a non-existent bush.

2072
01:31:42.539 --> 01:31:44.039
Nathan such a hater.

2073
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:48.600
This is Peter Davidson's 1st memory of Doctor Who.

2074
01:31:48.659 --> 01:31:49.560
Yes, it is.

2075
01:31:49.619 --> 01:31:52.199
He was 46 when he 1st saw this.

2076
01:31:53.100 --> 01:31:57.600
I'm still I'm still just imagining the Susan Foreman go app.

2077
01:31:57.659 --> 01:32:03.060
So there's buttons for B-Maudalen, Scream, Telequit.

2078
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:06.779
Telecommunication, quit, be sacked.

2079
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:07.680
B-Sack.

2080
01:32:07.739 --> 01:32:08.220
Oh sorry.

2081
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:09.119
Quit.

2082
01:32:09.180 --> 01:32:10.500
That's our story isn't it?

2083
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:11.279
sticking with it.

2084
01:32:11.340 --> 01:32:12.720
Not actually grand.

2085
01:32:12.779 --> 01:32:13.380
So she was fired.

2086
01:32:13.500 --> 01:32:15.000
No, she wasn't. wasn't fired.

2087
01:32:15.060 --> 01:32:15.960
Well, come on.

2088
01:32:16.020 --> 01:32:19.560
No, well, look, verity.

2089
01:32:19.619 --> 01:32:21.479
Carol Anne...

2090
01:32:21.539 --> 01:32:23.699
William Russell all said she wasn't fired.

2091
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:26.760
So I, I, have you ever heard anyone say she was fine?

2092
01:32:26.819 --> 01:32:28.140
No, I know.

2093
01:32:28.140 --> 01:32:29.819
Nathan said she was doing fine.

2094
01:32:29.880 --> 01:32:30.300
Yeah.

2095
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:31.859
No, it was ever fine.

2096
01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:33.119
Not even Tom.

2097
01:32:33.180 --> 01:32:34.319
Not even Tom.

2098
01:32:34.380 --> 01:32:37.199
Even after that drunken interview on nationwide.

2099
01:32:37.260 --> 01:32:38.460
Sue Lawley.

2100
01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:45.899
I'm just remembering that time, Richard, when I suggested publishing transcripts of the podcast and you said, but I make so many things up.

2101
01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:49.800
I do. make a bunch of stuff up.

2102
01:32:49.859 --> 01:32:58.140
I particularly remember one, but I'm not going to mention it because a friend of the podcast, Stephen Wood actually emailed me and said, I didn't know that was true.

2103
01:32:58.199 --> 01:32:59.699
I just wrote back.

2104
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:00.420
Yes.

2105
01:33:00.539 --> 01:33:01.260
Which one?

2106
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:02.340
It might be true.

2107
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:09.300
I think I think during one early podcast, I think that you claim...

2108
01:33:09.300 --> 01:33:10.739
I think you claim...

2109
01:33:10.739 --> 01:33:11.460
And he really is.

2110
01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:15.180
No, but I think you claimed that Derek Ware was Colin Baker's father.

2111
01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:16.439
He was, yeah.

2112
01:33:16.500 --> 01:33:18.060
All know that.

2113
01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:19.800
They're rubbing sticks together.

2114
01:33:19.859 --> 01:33:20.939
What could possibly go wrong?

2115
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.039
They're rubbing Altos's legs together.

2116
01:33:23.100 --> 01:33:24.840
Well, same thing.

2117
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:28.140
Oh, God, I can't believe we're not still doing that.

2118
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:36.060
They're all going to, speaking of Derek, where they're all going to get... ice cracking Altos size.

2119
01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:37.199
Ian Granton.

2120
01:33:37.260 --> 01:33:38.819
In grunching.

2121
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:42.000
Oh, look, Al just pulled his pants down there just to cover...

2122
01:33:42.060 --> 01:33:42.539
It's a lady.

2123
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:43.140
Of course he would.

2124
01:33:43.739 --> 01:33:50.159
This is, you know, I can see why Peter Davidson wanted to be the doctor just from this episode, wouldn't you?

2125
01:33:50.220 --> 01:33:54.539
It's very cold, but imagine if Scorpia had been wearing those pants.

2126
01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:57.359
He was the Captain Peacock all the time.

2127
01:33:57.420 --> 01:34:00.539
You know, I do wonder if mobly.

2128
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:01.619
We should explain that.

2129
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:07.500
Scorbi from, um, Scissor Boom is now Captain Peacock in the new...

2130
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:15.180
I've seen that episode so many times and I didn't even realise the most exciting thing about John Chalice.

2131
01:34:15.300 --> 01:34:15.720
It is.

2132
01:34:15.779 --> 01:34:17.399
What did you think of it?

2133
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:18.300
This isn't.

2134
01:34:18.300 --> 01:34:21.239
I actually found it the most exciting thing of all time.

2135
01:34:21.300 --> 01:34:22.979
For God's sake, just kill both of the girls.

2136
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:24.420
I love new.

2137
01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.359
I want a whole series of audio being so based on that.

2138
01:34:27.420 --> 01:34:28.439
I really want it.

2139
01:34:28.500 --> 01:34:30.779
It's got our own Nicky Wardley.

2140
01:34:30.779 --> 01:34:34.199
From 8th doctor episodes of Doctor Who or whatever.

2141
01:34:34.260 --> 01:34:37.680
She's a companion in the Big Finish, as Miss France.

2142
01:34:37.739 --> 01:34:38.340
Tamzin.

2143
01:34:38.460 --> 01:34:40.979
She's in the big finished audio.

2144
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.560
Yeah, so, yeah, Miss Brahms, he is Tamzin from the doctor.

2145
01:34:43.619 --> 01:34:45.060
Thank you, Brendan.

2146
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:46.859
Corby. going home to watch that.

2147
01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:48.420
She plays Scorpion, the Doctor Who...

2148
01:34:48.539 --> 01:34:51.060
Do you know as we as we record?

2149
01:34:51.180 --> 01:34:53.819
Well, Susan's about to do something terribly bright.

2150
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:55.979
In a gong suit, as Katie Manning.

2151
01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:57.960
She was the Katie Manning all the time.

2152
01:34:58.020 --> 01:35:00.539
She was actually just as Katie Manning in that she's wearing sheep.

2153
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:11.760
Now, yeah, I, you know, As a New Zealander. also, also, Carol Anne's looking really great. you know, with the whole kind of, I'm cranky and I'm about to do something stupid look.

2154
01:35:11.819 --> 01:35:22.380
She's doing what we will later, and Barry, let's will later credit Elizabeth Sladen for doing so well in that she's doing something very brave and being scared at the same time.

2155
01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:24.960
I think you're going to say brave, brave and very stupid.

2156
01:35:25.020 --> 01:35:28.500
Very brave and being a panicky idiot as usual.

2157
01:35:28.619 --> 01:35:31.260
And Altos just called her fat.

2158
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:32.760
He said it'll never take away.

2159
01:35:32.819 --> 01:35:35.699
Do you realise she's meant to be playing a 17 year old girl?

2160
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:36.899
What did you just say?

2161
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:38.640
We're allowed to say that.

2162
01:35:38.699 --> 01:35:41.399
She's playing a 17-year-old girl.

2163
01:35:41.460 --> 01:35:44.760
Do you know any 17 year old girls who are emotionally reliable?

2164
01:35:44.819 --> 01:35:45.600
I'll just put it out.

2165
01:35:45.659 --> 01:35:46.260
Yes.

2166
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:47.100
Who?

2167
01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:48.180
Apart from yourself, who?

2168
01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:50.699
They're a 17 year old.

2169
01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:52.199
Yeah, girls who are not...

2170
01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:55.800
Also, that bit of luck looks like a willy.

2171
01:35:55.859 --> 01:35:57.000
I thought it looked like a horse.

2172
01:35:57.060 --> 01:35:58.260
No, look, it's moving.

2173
01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:00.119
It's a big, oh, it's broken now.

2174
01:36:00.180 --> 01:36:01.739
I see the horse, Todd.

2175
01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:03.000
I just saw the Willie.

2176
01:36:03.060 --> 01:36:05.279
I was actually thinking Willie as well.

2177
01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:07.439
No, one a piece, Davis, I wanted a bit off.

2178
01:36:07.500 --> 01:36:08.640
And what's she climbing across?

2179
01:36:08.699 --> 01:36:09.779
This is really rude.

2180
01:36:09.899 --> 01:36:13.439
There was so ice cracking and lots of bottoms in this.

2181
01:36:13.500 --> 01:36:14.640
She's made it.

2182
01:36:14.699 --> 01:36:15.779
There are two.

2183
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:18.180
They're lovely.

2184
01:36:18.180 --> 01:36:20.159
Jacqueline Hill is not impressed by her bum.

2185
01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:23.939
And there's the title of the end.

2186
01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.399
There are 2 types of people in this world, aren't they, Todd?

2187
01:36:26.460 --> 01:36:28.979
Oh, we're going to go across the bridge.

2188
01:36:29.100 --> 01:36:33.600
What was it that Peter Davidson found so captivating that he had to star in the show?

2189
01:36:33.659 --> 01:36:34.439
He was very young.

2190
01:36:34.500 --> 01:36:37.800
And actually, there are a lot of, yeah, no, he was 46%.

2191
01:36:37.859 --> 01:36:39.960
There are a lot of similarities to terminus here.

2192
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:42.300
And that it's unwatchable.

2193
01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:44.220
So, yep, what have we had?

2194
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:46.500
We've had front bottom crack.

2195
01:36:46.619 --> 01:36:46.859
What?

2196
01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:50.880
We've had the 1st 13 episodes with the Daleks and all of that sort of thing.

2197
01:36:50.939 --> 01:36:52.800
We've had dressing from the left there.

2198
01:36:52.859 --> 01:36:55.979
And then we've had Marco Polo and we've had...

2199
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:58.560
This is what I heard.

2200
01:36:58.619 --> 01:37:03.539
This is essentially Terry Nations like 10th or 11th episode of the program.

2201
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:06.300
It's his royal command performance.

2202
01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:07.560
He's written more than everybody else.

2203
01:37:07.619 --> 01:37:17.039
But he's actually already written an entire episode in the Daleks where all everyone does is like go across a chasm.

2204
01:37:17.100 --> 01:37:19.319
Yeah, and then like he's run out of here.

2205
01:37:19.380 --> 01:37:22.380
I'm gonna have to do another hole going across a chasm episode.

2206
01:37:22.439 --> 01:37:27.659
We're back and now we're going to go and we're going to leave you to your brand new friends.

2207
01:37:28.260 --> 01:37:31.560
How come they're all getting on with rapey vasil now?

2208
01:37:31.619 --> 01:37:33.180
No, no, they're not made up.

2209
01:37:33.239 --> 01:37:35.699
They're just, they're just taking their stuff back from him.

2210
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:36.539
They're coming.

2211
01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:38.699
Well, bad luck, man.

2212
01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:39.899
But what are they going to do?

2213
01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:41.159
Is he going to be eaten by wolves?

2214
01:37:41.220 --> 01:37:44.880
No, oh, he's going to be my favourite moment by the things.

2215
01:37:44.939 --> 01:37:46.380
No, this is my favourite moment.

2216
01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:47.880
They said, oh, I'll have it gone.

2217
01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:50.460
Look at her face.

2218
01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:52.560
Yeah, well, that's...

2219
01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:52.979
Get off him.

2220
01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:53.579
She's tired.

2221
01:37:53.579 --> 01:37:56.699
Get away from T. She's not doing panicky idiot there.

2222
01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:58.439
She's doing...

2223
01:37:58.500 --> 01:38:01.260
Ow, ow, ow.

2224
01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:05.819
You stabbed me in my stab wound.

2225
01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:06.960
No, you just don't.

2226
01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:09.659
Yeah, they...

2227
01:38:09.659 --> 01:38:13.020
I've tried, and you can't kill someone with just one step.

2228
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:17.939
You know, when the pressure gets too much at work, I just slip out into the night and take a single human life.

2229
01:38:20.340 --> 01:38:23.100
Have you noticed that James isn't in this?

2230
01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:24.899
Meanwhile, in episode five?

2231
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:26.760
Someone's sleeping.

2232
01:38:26.819 --> 01:38:33.659
I just love that they're in a museum with all the, no, actually, I would, no, save it.

2233
01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:34.920
Hey, what's this?

2234
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:37.560
Okay, Richard, that looks like a peanut.

2235
01:38:37.619 --> 01:38:39.659
Are you allowed to say that, Nathan?

2236
01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:40.260
Yeah, yeah.

2237
01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:41.640
He's been struck by a penis.

2238
01:38:41.699 --> 01:38:42.779
What's this show called?

2239
01:38:42.899 --> 01:38:43.680
What?

2240
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:44.460
Doctor Who?

2241
01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:45.119
Who's that?

2242
01:38:46.140 --> 01:38:48.960
Yeah, it's Billy's had 2 weeks off.

2243
01:38:49.020 --> 01:38:51.420
So he'll be back next week.

2244
01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:54.000
What are you trying to say?

2245
01:38:54.060 --> 01:38:58.020
Because I'm actually feeling that this is an episode of May Grey or one of those.

2246
01:38:58.140 --> 01:38:59.460
No, seriously.

2247
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:02.159
Or early, very early Avengers.

2248
01:39:02.279 --> 01:39:05.939
This is really feeling like, because it's pretty much live action.

2249
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:21.899
Okay, it was pre-recorded, but they played it and shot it and acted it as if it was live to air because you really didn't get a retake unless you said something along the lines of the things that Nathan says. not actually allowed to.

2250
01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:26.399
You're not allowed to sentence to death, which is what I'm going to get if I keep this up.

2251
01:39:26.460 --> 01:39:29.159
That's what Terry Nation often writes.

2252
01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:34.199
I hope, dear listener, that you're also drinking, watching this, because there's no other way to watch this.

2253
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:36.300
It's the sentence of death.

2254
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:41.220
Look at all these marvellous people, all their fabulous careers are about to unfold for.

2255
01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:44.399
How many of them still alive?

2256
01:39:44.460 --> 01:39:45.960
No, because they're not alive.

2257
01:39:46.020 --> 01:39:46.439
Same difference.

2258
01:39:46.500 --> 01:39:47.100
Terrible.

2259
01:39:47.100 --> 01:39:50.939
It's a mercy killing.

2260
01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:52.199
But, you know, the rest of them.

2261
01:39:52.260 --> 01:39:53.819
I think, do you know, I think they're all dead.

2262
01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:56.640
I think from the cast that may be about it.

2263
01:39:56.699 --> 01:39:59.579
Catherine Schofield may still be with us, who is Sabitha?

2264
01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:00.899
What about John Gory?

2265
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:02.520
You know, we were talking about some...

2266
01:40:03.060 --> 01:40:05.100
Are you being served and the remmate?

2267
01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:06.119
What else would you talk about?

2268
01:40:06.180 --> 01:40:09.359
Everyone's from Are you being served as dead?

2269
01:40:09.420 --> 01:40:14.460
Every single Captain Peacock died at the age of 92 in 2000 and blah.

2270
01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:16.500
And it's like the western front, isn't it?

2271
01:40:16.619 --> 01:40:18.060
And like everyone's completely dead.

2272
01:40:18.180 --> 01:40:19.439
Mr. Lucas died very young.

2273
01:40:19.500 --> 01:40:20.819
Yeah, you went a few years ago.

2274
01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:22.380
Actually, is Mr. Spooner still alive?

2275
01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:25.140
Yeah, he died of anal cancer, though, very recently.

2276
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:26.159
Mr. Spooner?

2277
01:40:26.220 --> 01:40:26.460
Yeah.

2278
01:40:26.460 --> 01:40:28.199
Induced by acting.

2279
01:40:28.859 --> 01:40:30.840
No, they're all dead.

2280
01:40:30.899 --> 01:40:35.579
Mr. Spooner is also in Wurzel Gummidge, the New Zealand down under years.

2281
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:37.020
It's true.

2282
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:46.800
Mr. Spooner plays the dad in the John Pertui, Wurzel Gummidge, in his classic, Wurzel Gummidge.

2283
01:40:46.859 --> 01:40:51.239
Well, do you think does any of are you being served down under survive?

2284
01:40:51.300 --> 01:40:54.060
Interestingly, yes.

2285
01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:56.279
But it hasn't been released.

2286
01:40:56.340 --> 01:40:58.920
It was released on VHS, but not on DVD.

2287
01:40:58.979 --> 01:41:01.260
The Homeborne is the Mr. Lucas character.

2288
01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:04.079
June Bronhill as the Mrs. Slocum character.

2289
01:41:04.140 --> 01:41:06.479
The unborn was Mr. Humphries, wasn't he?

2290
01:41:06.539 --> 01:41:08.340
No, he was Mr. Lucas.

2291
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:09.359
Who is Mr. Humphreys?

2292
01:41:09.420 --> 01:41:10.680
Mr. Humphreys was Mr. Humphreys.

2293
01:41:10.739 --> 01:41:11.340
It was John Edman.

2294
01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:11.760
Oh, of course.

2295
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:13.979
The only original player from the Info.

2296
01:41:13.979 --> 01:41:14.699
Yeah, yeah.

2297
01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:15.420
John Inman.

2298
01:41:15.539 --> 01:41:18.420
June Braunhill was, yeah, was Jim Braunhill.

2299
01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:19.020
You was fine.

2300
01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:26.760
And beautifully, if there are any English listeners, Grace Brothers has been a department store in Australia since, well, for almost 100 years.

2301
01:41:26.819 --> 01:41:32.039
And there weren't any problems with the rights in the original broadcaster, are you being said?

2302
01:41:32.100 --> 01:41:34.140
Bone Brothers.

2303
01:41:34.140 --> 01:41:36.420
But they changed it to Bone Brothers.

2304
01:41:36.420 --> 01:41:37.800
So it was a Grace Brothers.

2305
01:41:37.859 --> 01:41:40.560
And it was actually, and Grace Brother said, no, we're fine with that.

2306
01:41:40.619 --> 01:41:43.199
Call it Grace Brothers. and Channel 7 was made here.

2307
01:41:43.260 --> 01:41:45.720
Oh, no, we shouldn't give free advertising.

2308
01:41:45.779 --> 01:41:47.640
That's how different society was then.

2309
01:41:47.699 --> 01:41:49.260
Other department stores.

2310
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:50.399
Because there's also available.

2311
01:41:50.460 --> 01:41:52.920
Yeah, there's nothing rude in the title Bone Brothers.

2312
01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:54.000
Well, guess what?

2313
01:41:54.060 --> 01:41:58.979
If you want to see it, go to YouTube and search for are you being served down under the whole series is there.

2314
01:41:59.220 --> 01:42:00.899
How good is it?

2315
01:42:00.899 --> 01:42:04.079
I challenge you to get to the 1st ad break because I couldn't.

2316
01:42:04.739 --> 01:42:08.760
That being said, Shane Bourne with hair is surprisingly hot.

2317
01:42:08.819 --> 01:42:09.960
And June Bronhill.

2318
01:42:10.020 --> 01:42:12.119
She's quite good, but hot.

2319
01:42:12.180 --> 01:42:14.399
I think the problem...

2320
01:42:14.460 --> 01:42:22.140
I think the problem is because, um, are you being served, heat now this guy's a bit hot, bit stern.

2321
01:42:22.140 --> 01:42:23.819
Oh, if you and your Nazi uniforms, Brandon.

2322
01:42:23.819 --> 01:42:28.380
The usual Taryn from a... eyes.

2323
01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:28.680
Yeah.

2324
01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:31.020
But, um...

2325
01:42:31.079 --> 01:42:32.819
He's looking in and up and down.

2326
01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:34.800
Where's Altoff's?

2327
01:42:35.819 --> 01:42:39.899
Are you being served is very much based on class warfare.

2328
01:42:40.020 --> 01:42:41.520
That's John Miles, isn't it?

2329
01:42:41.579 --> 01:42:42.779
sitting on the chair, yeah.

2330
01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:45.420
I shall fire you on.

2331
01:42:45.479 --> 01:42:48.420
If you do not follow my intentions, then my hugo bar.

2332
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:50.100
Actually, he reminds me of it.

2333
01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:53.159
It's the 1939 to 1945.

2334
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:54.180
Yeah.

2335
01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:59.100
In other words, fish eyes in a Hugo boss Nazi uniform.

2336
01:42:59.159 --> 01:42:59.760
Sorry, sorry.

2337
01:42:59.819 --> 01:43:01.020
Look, it's Richard.

2338
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:02.640
I can't believe it's not Richard Franklin.

2339
01:43:02.699 --> 01:43:03.840
Does he listen to this podcast?

2340
01:43:03.899 --> 01:43:05.760
Richard Frank. can't believe he does.

2341
01:43:05.819 --> 01:43:07.439
We mention him constantly.

2342
01:43:07.500 --> 01:43:08.460
I to mention him.

2343
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:09.119
Well, good on him.

2344
01:43:09.779 --> 01:43:10.439
He's Twitter.

2345
01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:11.340
I think he's fabulous.

2346
01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:12.420
Richard Franklin.

2347
01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:16.560
No, I have a cron job set up on my computer to just sort of pestering.

2348
01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:17.520
A what job?

2349
01:43:17.579 --> 01:43:20.340
You know, it's a computer-y thing.

2350
01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:21.600
Oh, I don't know.

2351
01:43:21.659 --> 01:43:22.560
He's about those figs.

2352
01:43:22.619 --> 01:43:23.640
It's a beautiful thing.

2353
01:43:23.699 --> 01:43:25.260
He's a proper smell.

2354
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:25.680
Yeah.

2355
01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:27.659
It's a macrobite modem.

2356
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:28.739
I'm looking to...

2357
01:43:28.739 --> 01:43:29.760
I'm not.

2358
01:43:29.819 --> 01:43:32.220
After the Tom Baker hornet's nest stuff.

2359
01:43:32.279 --> 01:43:39.060
I'm really looking forward to the Lala Ward Richard Franklin episodes that they'll be cross-pollinating.

2360
01:43:39.180 --> 01:43:41.460
The 1st episode is called Fish Eye, I think.

2361
01:43:43.619 --> 01:43:46.500
Meanwhile, I love your cards.

2362
01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:47.640
You look like a dog.

2363
01:43:47.699 --> 01:43:48.840
I want to pat you.

2364
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:51.239
Back on the planet.

2365
01:43:52.500 --> 01:43:53.340
Do you like my collar?

2366
01:43:53.399 --> 01:43:54.300
It's really upright.

2367
01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:55.380
I didn't get everything.

2368
01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:56.399
Oh God.

2369
01:43:57.060 --> 01:43:58.979
Do you like my hair?

2370
01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:00.239
Yeah, I love your hair.

2371
01:44:00.300 --> 01:44:02.340
By the way, I have really full upper lips.

2372
01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:04.140
I'm like most Russians.

2373
01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:06.119
So we're back here.

2374
01:44:06.180 --> 01:44:08.880
Oh, he's really not working for me, is he?

2375
01:44:08.939 --> 01:44:13.800
There's Ian saying, I've got more testosterone in my little finger than you've got in.

2376
01:44:13.859 --> 01:44:15.479
Well, let's call it your little finger.

2377
01:44:15.899 --> 01:44:20.340
I'm going to talk on the telephone because I'm on an Indian planet.

2378
01:44:21.359 --> 01:44:27.479
What were you complaining about before that they have flippers or something on an alien planet?

2379
01:44:27.539 --> 01:44:28.680
Well, I didn't mind that.

2380
01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:29.460
And now we have a telephone.

2381
01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:31.140
But this is like, just silly.

2382
01:44:31.260 --> 01:44:32.939
Taryn?

2383
01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:33.720
Oh my goodness.

2384
01:44:33.779 --> 01:44:35.939
He was the Stephen thingy all the time.

2385
01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:38.640
No, it's his name is teranium core.

2386
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:40.140
What was the point?

2387
01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:40.500
Thank you.

2388
01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:42.960
What was the name for that bloke behind the fridge?

2389
01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:48.060
That they, he just appeared for a 2nd and then we closed the fridge door because no, he's not in this thing right now.

2390
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:49.020
You are mine.

2391
01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:53.460
I love your family out and your stupid backcoming your English weights.

2392
01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:55.260
I will have you for now. you are mine.

2393
01:44:55.380 --> 01:44:57.479
By the way, do you really love my clutch bag?

2394
01:44:57.600 --> 01:44:58.319
I my heart right now.

2395
01:44:58.380 --> 01:44:59.760
How much have you drunk?

2396
01:44:59.819 --> 01:45:01.859
No, we do this every podcast.

2397
01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:04.260
You do this every podcast. what we do.

2398
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:06.600
Yeah, Todd, you haven't heard Bondfinger.

2399
01:45:06.659 --> 01:45:08.760
Every time a Germanic, Nazi.

2400
01:45:08.819 --> 01:45:11.279
I don't think I put that...

2401
01:45:11.279 --> 01:45:11.520
Is it?

2402
01:45:11.579 --> 01:45:13.380
I love the gap between his front teeth.

2403
01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:15.539
That's ¢50 and I'm talking 2 20s and a 10.

2404
01:45:15.779 --> 01:45:18.840
Is is really not impressed with this dude.

2405
01:45:18.899 --> 01:45:20.399
Oh, I don't think so.

2406
01:45:20.460 --> 01:45:21.840
I don't know.

2407
01:45:21.899 --> 01:45:23.699
He's got a nice eyelashes.

2408
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:25.079
He's got a 40s look to him.

2409
01:45:25.140 --> 01:45:29.760
Yeah, I see. 1940 to 1945.

2410
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.760
And then Argentina for the next 25 years.

2411
01:45:35.819 --> 01:45:39.539
Is this a good time to mention that this is a replacement story?

2412
01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:40.979
For what?

2413
01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:41.520
Wow.

2414
01:45:41.579 --> 01:45:43.680
Originally. of the space whale?

2415
01:45:43.739 --> 01:45:44.220
No.

2416
01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:49.319
Originally in this slot was a story called The Hidden Planet.

2417
01:45:49.380 --> 01:45:50.760
No.

2418
01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:53.279
And the one that's behind the...

2419
01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:54.479
Yeah, it's the one that's...

2420
01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:55.920
Now, are you sure that's not a furfy?

2421
01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:58.439
Because Doc is muchly through the whole hit...

2422
01:45:58.500 --> 01:45:58.979
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2423
01:45:59.039 --> 01:45:59.699
But yeah.

2424
01:45:59.699 --> 01:46:01.500
Because they're naughty front bottles.

2425
01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:03.359
It was partially based in truth.

2426
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:06.119
And it was an original story.

2427
01:46:06.180 --> 01:46:11.220
The idea was there was a 10th planet in the solar system, which was on the opposite orbit to earth.

2428
01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:12.539
So same orbital part.

2429
01:46:12.659 --> 01:46:13.260
Doppelganger.

2430
01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:14.100
A doppelganger.

2431
01:46:14.699 --> 01:46:16.380
Women were gonna be the dominant sex.

2432
01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:19.619
Barb, the double of Barbara was their leader.

2433
01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:20.640
Fields Airlocks.

2434
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:23.100
Barbara was their leader.

2435
01:46:23.159 --> 01:46:25.979
Oh, yeah.

2436
01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.159
We moved to the nearby parallel universe where that happened.

2437
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:30.840
And Billy's back.

2438
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:33.840
Galaxy four.

2439
01:46:33.899 --> 01:46:35.159
They're all excited.

2440
01:46:35.220 --> 01:46:37.560
It's called the worm that turned.

2441
01:46:37.619 --> 01:46:39.359
But do you want to know who the writer was?

2442
01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:40.800
No, please, tell us.

2443
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:41.279
Ryan Hale.

2444
01:46:41.340 --> 01:46:42.180
Malcolm Hulk.

2445
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:44.279
Oh, amazing.

2446
01:46:44.340 --> 01:46:45.000
Yeah.

2447
01:46:45.060 --> 01:46:46.560
So the thing is, it could have actually went wrong.

2448
01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:48.420
That's too good.

2449
01:46:48.479 --> 01:46:53.460
Just the scripts weren't really deemed highbrow enough, really.

2450
01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:56.399
Verity wasn't happy. highbrow.

2451
01:46:56.460 --> 01:46:59.039
Archimand giants wandering.

2452
01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:01.079
That's not Cyril Shaps. going to eat Todd.

2453
01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:03.899
Five.

2454
01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:04.920
Civil shaps?

2455
01:47:04.979 --> 01:47:05.279
Yeah.

2456
01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:06.779
Pretty much. are they aren't.

2457
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:09.539
This is where the budget ran out because really...

2458
01:47:09.539 --> 01:47:13.140
They're wearing on their heads like...

2459
01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:18.779
You see, like, you know, you see little lamb cutlets in the stores with little...

2460
01:47:18.779 --> 01:47:19.199
Oh, yeah.

2461
01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:20.699
Are you frozen?

2462
01:47:21.060 --> 01:47:23.100
Two of these judges.

2463
01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:28.680
The middle judge, and I believe the judge on the right, were I soldiers last week?

2464
01:47:28.739 --> 01:47:30.180
Oh great.

2465
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:35.340
And they were also Venn Glynd and the justice machine from the 1st episode.

2466
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:39.840
This is a Venn diagram for Todd's Snog Mary avoid, isn't it?

2467
01:47:39.899 --> 01:47:41.699
So which of the guards?

2468
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:43.680
It's a sch which you're saying.

2469
01:47:43.739 --> 01:47:46.859
Which would you kill and which would you?

2470
01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:49.079
I haven't seen all 3 of them yet.

2471
01:47:49.140 --> 01:47:50.760
What Joe, how are you feeling for this?

2472
01:47:50.819 --> 01:47:51.720
I'm not doing anything.

2473
01:47:51.779 --> 01:47:52.859
Oh yes, you are.

2474
01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:53.520
It's your game.

2475
01:47:54.899 --> 01:47:57.119
I'm sorry, his teeth.

2476
01:47:57.180 --> 01:47:59.220
I'm sorry, but there are...

2477
01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:00.119
I'm avoiding him.

2478
01:48:00.180 --> 01:48:01.680
Yeah, no, it's really hot right now.

2479
01:48:01.739 --> 01:48:03.479
They're just Buddhists.

2480
01:48:03.539 --> 01:48:04.500
It's perfectly fine.

2481
01:48:04.619 --> 01:48:07.739
By the way, this is a plug for the bad dog party.

2482
01:48:07.739 --> 01:48:13.199
I think I, and the theme is Bad Dog the Musical, and I'm going because every musical has Nazis.

2483
01:48:13.260 --> 01:48:14.039
I'm actually going.

2484
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:16.140
Okay, is that an Nazi-esque sort of superman?

2485
01:48:16.199 --> 01:48:16.979
That's what I've been saying.

2486
01:48:17.100 --> 01:48:17.460
Sorry.

2487
01:48:17.460 --> 01:48:18.180
That's all right.

2488
01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:20.159
Okay, judges, snog marry, kill.

2489
01:48:20.220 --> 01:48:25.439
The judge on the left, I would snog, the judge on the right, I would marry and the judge in the middle, I would kill.

2490
01:48:25.500 --> 01:48:26.159
Good.

2491
01:48:26.220 --> 01:48:27.359
I'm telling Ron.

2492
01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:31.079
Pickering.

2493
01:48:31.140 --> 01:48:31.800
Hooray!

2494
01:48:31.859 --> 01:48:33.720
It's Captain Molotov.

2495
01:48:33.779 --> 01:48:35.220
Actually, the one on the left is kind of hot.

2496
01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:36.479
Yeah, exactly.

2497
01:48:36.539 --> 01:48:37.500
That's why I'd snorke him.

2498
01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:38.460
I married the one on the right.

2499
01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:40.020
He looks a bit like Simon Pegg.

2500
01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:41.220
I like Simon Pegg.

2501
01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:43.260
Yeah, one in the middle, I have to murder.

2502
01:48:43.319 --> 01:48:44.520
Can I just say?

2503
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:46.380
But he's probably got the biggest...

2504
01:48:46.380 --> 01:48:49.920
Ah, well, my nutsu, your my farm has a clock.

2505
01:48:49.979 --> 01:48:50.760
What do you think?

2506
01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:52.140
I was going to say vocabulary.

2507
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:52.859
What were you going to say?

2508
01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:54.180
I say no capes.

2509
01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:58.380
Hey, boy, Altos.

2510
01:48:58.380 --> 01:49:01.739
Oh, so enthusiastic.

2511
01:49:01.800 --> 01:49:03.180
Get rid of the fact.

2512
01:49:03.180 --> 01:49:06.000
Well, Billy used to go...

2513
01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:09.960
Billy used to go holidaying with Charles Haughtry, so we can't have had...

2514
01:49:10.020 --> 01:49:12.659
I think a lot of the stuff we've heard about Billy.

2515
01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:13.920
Oh God, Billy, I love your teeth.

2516
01:49:14.100 --> 01:49:15.600
You know what?

2517
01:49:15.659 --> 01:49:19.619
I think Billy may have disliked the fags, as it were, but you're okay kind of thing.

2518
01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:21.779
I think he might have made exception.

2519
01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:28.800
I think he actually decided day to day, depending on how much, how bad a mood he was in, pretty much like how we do this podcast.

2520
01:49:28.859 --> 01:49:31.140
Yeah, that's true.

2521
01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:34.199
I actually think I think he was...

2522
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:34.680
No, no.

2523
01:49:34.739 --> 01:49:36.420
And I think that I think that that's clear.

2524
01:49:36.479 --> 01:49:44.640
I think there's other evidence that he didn't act with Max Adrian just because he was gay because people knew that he acted with other people who were gay.

2525
01:49:44.699 --> 01:49:46.739
I mean, I think we've out lied to that, yeah.

2526
01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:51.180
But he was also sort of horrifically joking, by the way.

2527
01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:52.739
What do you think?

2528
01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:55.260
Well, he was also English.

2529
01:49:55.380 --> 01:49:57.300
Oh yeah, I know.

2530
01:49:57.359 --> 01:50:00.720
But not everyone in English in the 90s English.

2531
01:50:00.779 --> 01:50:05.579
He had to go with that South American bird and a cup of cocoa. yeah that is true.

2532
01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:06.300
Hello?

2533
01:50:06.420 --> 01:50:08.399
Oh, what's that?

2534
01:50:08.460 --> 01:50:09.239
That's a pen.

2535
01:50:09.300 --> 01:50:10.619
Even though she's actually in Dutch.

2536
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:12.359
It's a sideways pen.

2537
01:50:12.420 --> 01:50:13.319
Also books.

2538
01:50:13.739 --> 01:50:16.199
Also, hello, I'm back.

2539
01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:17.699
Smokeberry avoid.

2540
01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:19.199
Tara.

2541
01:50:19.260 --> 01:50:20.340
What about in this scene?

2542
01:50:20.399 --> 01:50:22.439
And who's the other hottie in this store?

2543
01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:23.699
Donald Pickering?

2544
01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:25.680
Oh look, he's lost 2 rolls of war paper.

2545
01:50:25.739 --> 01:50:26.279
Okay.

2546
01:50:26.340 --> 01:50:29.399
And from under his arms, I mean.

2547
01:50:29.460 --> 01:50:31.439
I'd match...

2548
01:50:31.500 --> 01:50:34.979
I'd marry Altos because he wanders around without his pants on and I approve of that.

2549
01:50:35.159 --> 01:50:38.159
See, it's such a window into your private life.

2550
01:50:38.220 --> 01:50:43.680
I would snog Donald Pickering, and so I suppose I'd kill Taron, despite the fact he's also quite hot.

2551
01:50:43.739 --> 01:50:48.180
Yeah, but my waste scanner is like going off.

2552
01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:52.739
Terron's super busy getting everything out of Dabros's safe, you know.

2553
01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:56.520
That is the night all the time.

2554
01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:57.600
Oh my god.

2555
01:50:57.659 --> 01:50:58.680
Okay, I get it now.

2556
01:50:58.739 --> 01:51:00.060
He's Neider Jr.

2557
01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:02.460
Oh, by the way, I'm wearing gloves, by the way.

2558
01:51:02.520 --> 01:51:04.079
It's so nice to have Billy back.

2559
01:51:04.140 --> 01:51:05.039
It really is.

2560
01:51:05.159 --> 01:51:08.520
And what I love about the story, do you love uniforms?

2561
01:51:08.579 --> 01:51:09.479
I don't even have to wear this.

2562
01:51:09.539 --> 01:51:10.619
I just do it because I can.

2563
01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:13.199
I've been really, we don't even have to wear uniforms.

2564
01:51:13.979 --> 01:51:16.560
This story starts.

2565
01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:17.460
Oh, that's so well.

2566
01:51:17.460 --> 01:51:22.020
I could be speaking Greek for all I know, and we could just overdump.

2567
01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:22.260
Yep.

2568
01:51:22.319 --> 01:51:23.939
This story starts with...

2569
01:51:23.939 --> 01:51:24.720
How about our news?

2570
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:26.760
Choose to throw our own outfits to other shit.

2571
01:51:26.819 --> 01:51:27.420
Not like that.

2572
01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:33.779
This story starts with the doctor and his companions being forced into...

2573
01:51:33.779 --> 01:51:34.500
Hidden Planet.

2574
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:42.479
No, it starts with this story starts with the doctor and his companions being forced into going on a mission and they don't want to go on it.

2575
01:51:42.539 --> 01:51:46.199
By this point, they are determined to repair injustice.

2576
01:51:46.260 --> 01:51:52.859
This is where it becomes a show about, we go places, we start revolutions and we help people.

2577
01:51:52.979 --> 01:51:53.699
Revolution.

2578
01:51:53.699 --> 01:51:54.720
Are we getting money?

2579
01:51:55.319 --> 01:51:57.600
I do license the show becoming Doctor Who.

2580
01:51:57.600 --> 01:51:59.760
This is the show becoming...

2581
01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:00.600
And we getting that, though?

2582
01:52:00.659 --> 01:52:02.039
Because mostly I'm getting hand acting.

2583
01:52:02.100 --> 01:52:03.420
Hand acting.

2584
01:52:03.899 --> 01:52:04.619
Oh he's great at hand.

2585
01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:06.000
Oh, God, he's so good.

2586
01:52:06.060 --> 01:52:07.140
Don't try and do it, Caroline.

2587
01:52:07.199 --> 01:52:07.920
You can't keep it.

2588
01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:11.100
I mean, that's not that's not inconsistent with hand acting.

2589
01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:13.560
But I mean, think about what we've had so far.

2590
01:52:13.619 --> 01:52:24.720
We've had Mac, we've had, you know, cavemen, Edge of Destruction, Daleks, and, you know, Daleks.

2591
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:28.680
We weren't ever trying to, like, correct anything or do anything wrong.

2592
01:52:28.739 --> 01:52:33.600
The only reason they lead a revolution in the Daleks is to get their ball back, basically.

2593
01:52:34.020 --> 01:52:37.800
Because naughty, naughty Billy dropped it deliberately.

2594
01:52:37.920 --> 01:52:39.779
I love that Billy could just do that.

2595
01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:43.020
But here they are actually trying to do something.

2596
01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:49.859
And so can we blame Terry Nation for the eventual trajectory that the show will take.

2597
01:52:49.979 --> 01:52:50.399
Absolutely.

2598
01:52:50.460 --> 01:52:50.880
Absolutely.

2599
01:52:50.939 --> 01:52:57.899
Because remember, Verity wasn't expecting the Daleks to be a success, and Verity wasn't expecting those themes to be a success.

2600
01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:10.079
Verity kind of wanted to do conceptual sci-fi and then found herself in this conceptual action adventure, which she went along with because she's like, this is where it's naturally evolving because she was a dynamic creator. smart, smart woman.

2601
01:53:10.140 --> 01:53:14.460
That's the point. so creative and so fresh. nobody knew what was going to happen next.

2602
01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:16.979
That's why this is so enigmatic to watch now.

2603
01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:17.939
Also backcoming.

2604
01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:25.859
I have a paradigm where I want David Whittaker to be responsible for everything good in Doctor Who that Malcolm Hulk is not responsible.

2605
01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:33.960
Yeah, the thing is, David, everything good that Malcolm Hulk's not responsible for. or, yeah, no, essentially.

2606
01:53:34.020 --> 01:53:38.520
And Eric Say would is responsible for everything, loathsome and harassing.

2607
01:53:38.579 --> 01:53:39.539
Is that the problem with the series?

2608
01:53:39.659 --> 01:53:40.979
We have Whittaker.

2609
01:53:41.039 --> 01:53:42.659
We have Hulk.

2610
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:45.119
We have homes and then we have sabred.

2611
01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:46.560
Well, Holmes is awful.

2612
01:53:46.619 --> 01:53:50.220
And then homes and Seywood, which is like anti-matter and massa.

2613
01:53:50.699 --> 01:53:55.260
But Holmes had a sense of humour because Holmes would have a have a quite similar sensibility.

2614
01:53:55.319 --> 01:54:01.800
I know, but Holmes is clever and say would... also hates the show.

2615
01:54:01.859 --> 01:54:08.039
Well, and really, tongue in cheek, I love hating things, disposition.

2616
01:54:08.100 --> 01:54:08.640
Yeah.

2617
01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:09.960
And so...

2618
01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:10.439
Hooray.

2619
01:54:10.500 --> 01:54:11.880
It's Fiona.

2620
01:54:11.939 --> 01:54:14.939
Oh, we loved her.

2621
01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:15.960
Certainly we're all at home.

2622
01:54:16.020 --> 01:54:17.159
Do you really love that?

2623
01:54:17.220 --> 01:54:18.119
Also side ice.

2624
01:54:18.180 --> 01:54:19.079
Yeah, because not in this.

2625
01:54:19.140 --> 01:54:20.039
I just love her today.

2626
01:54:20.100 --> 01:54:22.140
How can you not love her in everything?

2627
01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:25.199
Oh, I'm not at home, you fricking Avon girl.

2628
01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:27.000
Three women in a scene.

2629
01:54:27.060 --> 01:54:29.039
Oh, hooray.

2630
01:54:29.100 --> 01:54:30.899
I think that the 1st time ever.

2631
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:33.060
And unfortunately, they're still talking about men.

2632
01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:34.619
Yeah, as usual.

2633
01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:35.159
Oh, yes.

2634
01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:38.520
The thing is...

2635
01:54:38.579 --> 01:54:39.779
Her frock is so 60s.

2636
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:42.539
I think it's actually just very arrogant.

2637
01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:48.239
But on a black man was wearing things like this before they hit on the leather and suede wardrobe.

2638
01:54:48.300 --> 01:54:49.140
She was too.

2639
01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:52.260
Who is flattering the waste, though, is it?

2640
01:54:52.260 --> 01:54:55.560
And she gives it away with the whole micro key thing, doesn't she?

2641
01:54:56.220 --> 01:54:59.520
That happens twice, as Brendan alluded to before.

2642
01:54:59.579 --> 01:55:02.520
It actually happens twice in these 2 episodes.

2643
01:55:02.579 --> 01:55:04.020
People just give them.

2644
01:55:04.020 --> 01:55:05.279
It's an alien planet.

2645
01:55:05.399 --> 01:55:10.380
Why don't they have tall boy bureaus and, you know, like and Chesterfield's...

2646
01:55:10.380 --> 01:55:13.680
They have shoes and dresses and everything, every planet.

2647
01:55:13.739 --> 01:55:19.260
Because we had those, but funny, you're filthy, human style, the perfectly timed.

2648
01:55:19.380 --> 01:55:21.479
Oh, yes.

2649
01:55:21.479 --> 01:55:22.439
Are they having an affair?

2650
01:55:22.500 --> 01:55:24.600
So this is our this is our husband.

2651
01:55:24.659 --> 01:55:27.359
So this is Aidan and Carla.

2652
01:55:27.899 --> 01:55:29.880
Is Carla having an affair with her husband?

2653
01:55:29.939 --> 01:55:31.439
Is this Aidan, is it?

2654
01:55:31.500 --> 01:55:32.220
This is Aidan.

2655
01:55:32.279 --> 01:55:33.300
Snorg bearing a Boyd?

2656
01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:34.800
Aidan Altos.

2657
01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:35.460
There you go.

2658
01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:36.779
Can I marry Kara?

2659
01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:39.300
I want those 2 to get their own spinoff series.

2660
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:40.500
Who?

2661
01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:45.000
Oh, I want I want them to have their own seat.

2662
01:55:45.060 --> 01:55:46.079
No one knows where it is.

2663
01:55:46.140 --> 01:55:47.520
You fool.

2664
01:55:47.579 --> 01:55:48.239
In the thing.

2665
01:55:48.300 --> 01:55:50.640
You're a cop, for God's sake.

2666
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:54.180
Chesterfield told you where he hit it.

2667
01:55:55.020 --> 01:55:56.760
Oh, dear.

2668
01:55:56.880 --> 01:55:59.399
No, you're not very convincing.

2669
01:55:59.460 --> 01:56:01.979
I'm sorry, this is the clue moment.

2670
01:56:02.039 --> 01:56:04.260
Are you trying to make me look stupid in front of the other guests?

2671
01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:05.939
You don't need any help from me, sir.

2672
01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:08.640
I shall pretend to backswipe you with my handy thing.

2673
01:56:08.699 --> 01:56:09.720
Oh, this is great.

2674
01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:12.899
Also, her bun looks like an ovipositor.

2675
01:56:13.079 --> 01:56:14.699
That's great.

2676
01:56:14.819 --> 01:56:16.560
A hairdo as a cloaca.

2677
01:56:16.619 --> 01:56:19.439
Oh my god, Zorak's been here. chair in that corridor.

2678
01:56:19.500 --> 01:56:20.039
Sorry, go on.

2679
01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:27.840
I really want Zara and Bumface to have their own sitcom, Maradol sitcom.

2680
01:56:27.899 --> 01:56:29.100
They're having it through the...

2681
01:56:29.100 --> 01:56:31.199
He launches a...

2682
01:56:31.260 --> 01:56:32.760
He launches her into Spain.

2683
01:56:32.819 --> 01:56:33.479
Where are they?

2684
01:56:33.479 --> 01:56:36.180
so that she can orbit around the planet.

2685
01:56:36.239 --> 01:56:37.140
Marinace.

2686
01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:37.920
What city is this?

2687
01:56:37.979 --> 01:56:39.000
Millennius.

2688
01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:41.279
Because it goes forever.

2689
01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:43.439
Millennia.

2690
01:56:43.500 --> 01:56:46.920
And we did just have a bit of domestic violence there, which I think should be commented on.

2691
01:56:47.039 --> 01:56:48.180
This is the 60s.

2692
01:56:48.180 --> 01:56:49.380
This looks like...

2693
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:49.920
I'm sorry.

2694
01:56:49.979 --> 01:56:51.659
The miracle...

2695
01:56:51.659 --> 01:56:52.560
Yes.

2696
01:56:52.619 --> 01:56:54.180
Now he's playing Ison.

2697
01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:56.100
Oh, I send.

2698
01:56:56.159 --> 01:57:03.000
I send, also, this also is the GHD and we'll curse my bangs. sort of phone thing, so to speak.

2699
01:57:03.119 --> 01:57:05.640
Also, it's got 3 settings.

2700
01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:08.640
And I'm wearing gloves.

2701
01:57:08.699 --> 01:57:11.819
You're young twins, you know, that one might not go through with it.

2702
01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:12.659
What do you reckon?

2703
01:57:14.220 --> 01:57:17.939
Why do you reckon phones never looked like that in the city?

2704
01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:19.020
Because he's rude.

2705
01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:20.159
They look great.

2706
01:57:20.220 --> 01:57:22.079
They're awesome. nice chairs.

2707
01:57:22.140 --> 01:57:24.239
Also, I want that hat.

2708
01:57:24.300 --> 01:57:27.779
I should like a hat like that Also, he's wearing a cake.

2709
01:57:28.380 --> 01:57:32.699
What the freak is that hanging on his belt?

2710
01:57:32.819 --> 01:57:34.140
It's a space gun.

2711
01:57:34.199 --> 01:57:35.640
That's what he told his shooter wife.

2712
01:57:35.699 --> 01:57:36.600
It's a penis gun.

2713
01:57:36.659 --> 01:57:38.520
Yeah, no, it's a total space gun.

2714
01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:40.140
This is a total nation story.

2715
01:57:40.199 --> 01:57:43.140
Oh, there's a reason he walks like that.

2716
01:57:43.260 --> 01:57:44.279
Oh my god.

2717
01:57:44.279 --> 01:57:45.539
What a trial of a trial.

2718
01:57:45.600 --> 01:57:46.859
He was the Michael J.

2719
01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:48.960
We don't get 14 episodes of that.

2720
01:57:49.020 --> 01:57:50.699
Oh, so ow, that's gonna really hurt.

2721
01:57:50.819 --> 01:57:52.439
Yeah, it's not trial of a time lord.

2722
01:57:52.500 --> 01:57:53.760
What's he wavering?

2723
01:57:53.819 --> 01:57:54.539
People are murmuring.

2724
01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:56.159
You know it's not trial of a timeline.

2725
01:57:56.220 --> 01:57:57.659
Because there's more than 3 camera angles.

2726
01:57:57.720 --> 01:57:58.979
I also need to say no more.

2727
01:57:58.979 --> 01:58:00.000
And we're storm free.

2728
01:58:00.060 --> 01:58:00.720
There's a better set.

2729
01:58:01.619 --> 01:58:05.279
Ooh, at least there's still war games with people in the back.

2730
01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:07.560
Boo, Boo, Boo. rhubarb.

2731
01:58:07.619 --> 01:58:10.140
All those women in the back wearing the same...

2732
01:58:10.199 --> 01:58:11.819
Also, I just want that.

2733
01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:13.560
Oh, no, you won't kiss him.

2734
01:58:13.619 --> 01:58:18.000
Actually, don't they hang those hats in like the doors of cool rooms to keep the cold air inside?

2735
01:58:18.119 --> 01:58:19.739
No, no, no.

2736
01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:23.640
I like Todd's theory that they go on like chicken drumsticks and stuff.

2737
01:58:23.939 --> 01:58:25.979
Dum, dum, dum.

2738
01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:29.220
Billy's wearing a fall, isn't he?

2739
01:58:29.279 --> 01:58:31.920
He's wearing one on a black...

2740
01:58:31.979 --> 01:58:35.039
I think that Donald Pipping is so bored by this child.

2741
01:58:35.100 --> 01:58:42.479
He's already applying for a job at Gatwick, or starring as a chicken alien.

2742
01:58:42.539 --> 01:58:43.500
I'm pretty sure.

2743
01:58:43.500 --> 01:58:44.460
In the 1980s.

2744
01:58:44.520 --> 01:58:45.000
Yes.

2745
01:58:45.060 --> 01:58:46.800
I'm pretty sure Billy has a new wig here.

2746
01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:49.680
It's got, it's, it goes out to the side a bit more.

2747
01:58:49.739 --> 01:58:54.119
This is kind of Billy's traditional week because early on in the story, it was far too far back. was one I prepared earlier.

2748
01:58:54.180 --> 01:58:57.659
He does look like he's got a Barrette on though.

2749
01:58:57.720 --> 01:58:58.859
Yes.

2750
01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:01.500
It won't be quite finalised yet.

2751
01:59:01.619 --> 01:59:03.720
No, I love he's put a lot of effort into that hairdude.

2752
01:59:03.779 --> 01:59:04.739
It's pretty fabulous.

2753
01:59:05.220 --> 01:59:07.319
I hate you all.

2754
01:59:07.380 --> 01:59:08.039
It is here.

2755
01:59:08.100 --> 01:59:09.779
Is he looking relaxed, do you think?

2756
01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:12.060
No, mostly Billy just thinks they're all idiots.

2757
01:59:12.119 --> 01:59:13.560
That's why I love Billy.

2758
01:59:13.619 --> 01:59:15.000
I see what you mean, though, Todd.

2759
01:59:15.060 --> 01:59:16.199
It's...

2760
01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:23.939
He's found what he wants to do in the role and I think that goes hand in hand with becoming more heroic.

2761
01:59:24.060 --> 01:59:33.600
Also, also, oh, please, Tamara belongs to me.

2762
01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:35.279
Sorry.

2763
01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:36.180
Put out your hands.

2764
01:59:36.180 --> 01:59:37.439
Handsome hips.

2765
01:59:39.060 --> 01:59:41.579
Well, groaning.

2766
01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:43.680
Looks like that gun was cocked.

2767
01:59:43.739 --> 01:59:46.859
You'll be surprised you're doing the French mistake.

2768
01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:49.800
Faggots.

2769
01:59:50.579 --> 01:59:54.239
Slides like steam escaping.

2770
01:59:54.359 --> 01:59:57.899
I should point out we are quoting from Blaze.

2771
01:59:58.619 --> 01:59:59.460
And phrase.

2772
01:59:59.520 --> 02:00:00.659
Fiona Walker, you will.

2773
02:00:01.260 --> 02:00:03.539
Oh, Fiona...

2774
02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:05.640
She's doing Medeia right there.

2775
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:06.960
Look who is that?

2776
02:00:07.020 --> 02:00:08.100
Who was she in?

2777
02:00:08.100 --> 02:00:09.600
She's in i Claudius.

2778
02:00:09.659 --> 02:00:11.819
All things will not be happening.

2779
02:00:11.880 --> 02:00:13.020
Is she a Jacoby?

2780
02:00:13.079 --> 02:00:13.859
Agrippina?

2781
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:15.720
is she supposed Derek Jacoby?

2782
02:00:15.779 --> 02:00:16.319
She does.

2783
02:00:16.380 --> 02:00:17.939
I think she's awesome in it.

2784
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.279
She has the most impressive teeth.

2785
02:00:20.340 --> 02:00:24.479
Donald Pickering's looking at Billy like, I'm gonna steal your show.

2786
02:00:24.539 --> 02:00:26.220
I am so good.

2787
02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:27.659
Forget Patrick.

2788
02:00:27.659 --> 02:00:29.100
He's really loving that finger, isn't he?

2789
02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:30.479
Forget Patrick Trouton.

2790
02:00:30.539 --> 02:00:31.319
I'm coming in next.

2791
02:00:32.340 --> 02:00:35.579
And I'm gonna, I look better in a cape than you.

2792
02:00:38.640 --> 02:00:39.600
Yeah.

2793
02:00:42.659 --> 02:00:44.460
Oh, bless him.

2794
02:00:44.520 --> 02:00:46.619
God, I love Billy.

2795
02:00:46.680 --> 02:00:48.300
Isn't he so superb?

2796
02:00:48.359 --> 02:00:50.699
He really hates everyone.

2797
02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:52.079
But that's the thing.

2798
02:00:52.079 --> 02:00:53.159
It's genuine too.

2799
02:00:53.220 --> 02:00:54.600
I miss that.

2800
02:00:54.659 --> 02:00:56.100
I miss that about popular culture.

2801
02:00:56.159 --> 02:01:00.300
Billy is the old, if call centres existed in the 1960s.

2802
02:01:00.359 --> 02:01:02.579
Billy is who you would have got on the other end.

2803
02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:05.520
Not this have a nice day and how are you feeling?

2804
02:01:05.579 --> 02:01:08.159
And I would have been...

2805
02:01:08.220 --> 02:01:09.779
Doesn't that annoy you?

2806
02:01:09.840 --> 02:01:10.260
The whole thing.

2807
02:01:10.319 --> 02:01:11.340
Yeah. 4th century.

2808
02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:12.119
How are you going today?

2809
02:01:12.180 --> 02:01:15.420
Well, much better if you just answered my call. how we're going today.

2810
02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:17.340
Billy would have just...

2811
02:01:17.460 --> 02:01:25.319
You see, I like to really stum them by saying, I'm fine, thank you and yourself, and usually they have to pause for a few seconds because nobody ever asks how they are.

2812
02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:31.140
I'm in a giant hellhole with like a big headset on my head answering your question.

2813
02:01:31.199 --> 02:01:31.859
Obviously.

2814
02:01:32.159 --> 02:01:33.300
I want to die.

2815
02:01:33.359 --> 02:01:35.640
That's what we should have done on Are you okay, day?

2816
02:01:35.699 --> 02:01:39.180
We should have called random call centres and just, do you have questions?

2817
02:01:39.239 --> 02:01:39.659
Are you okay?

2818
02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:41.760
Are you okay there?

2819
02:01:41.819 --> 02:01:44.279
I think that's the highlight.

2820
02:01:44.399 --> 02:01:46.439
These people are, this is, yeah, I'm not.

2821
02:01:46.500 --> 02:01:49.260
Yeah, I'm gonna snog that going on the on the on the right.

2822
02:01:49.319 --> 02:01:49.859
Yeah.

2823
02:01:49.859 --> 02:01:51.899
He's got a fabulous moustache.

2824
02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:53.579
I think it might be fake.

2825
02:01:53.699 --> 02:01:54.960
Really?

2826
02:01:55.079 --> 02:01:55.560
Yeah.

2827
02:01:55.619 --> 02:01:58.319
I think he I think he might have borrowed...

2828
02:01:58.319 --> 02:01:59.880
Anthony Ainley, do you think?

2829
02:01:59.939 --> 02:02:01.739
Well, he could have.

2830
02:02:01.800 --> 02:02:07.619
I was thinking even more impressive from some people in creature from the pitch, but we weren't...

2831
02:02:07.680 --> 02:02:09.960
Or maybe on the Antarctic Bay.

2832
02:02:10.739 --> 02:02:14.460
Despite the dramatics and hysterics of recent events.

2833
02:02:14.520 --> 02:02:15.000
Oh, yeah.

2834
02:02:15.060 --> 02:02:18.539
Someone a wife crying because her husband's been shot.

2835
02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:19.920
That's hysterics.

2836
02:02:19.979 --> 02:02:22.380
No, that's emotion, you evil man.

2837
02:02:22.439 --> 02:02:24.420
No, it's weirdly suspicious.

2838
02:02:24.479 --> 02:02:26.220
It's weirdly suspicious.

2839
02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:28.140
And it's hysterics because she's a woman.

2840
02:02:28.260 --> 02:02:33.659
A man, a man wouldn't cry over his wife dying like that, you stupid woman.

2841
02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:34.859
She has wandering womb.

2842
02:02:34.979 --> 02:02:36.659
Screw you, Isaac.

2843
02:02:36.779 --> 02:02:37.199
Wandering.

2844
02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:41.520
I think the worst this gets the better it is.

2845
02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:46.920
Is that the def- that is the definition is we've just got the 60s cap.

2846
02:02:46.979 --> 02:02:52.260
This is Susan Sontal's definition of camp, this story, because it's trying very hard.

2847
02:02:52.319 --> 02:02:53.520
It's take itself seriously.

2848
02:02:53.579 --> 02:02:54.840
No, no, no.

2849
02:02:54.899 --> 02:02:55.619
No, no, it's not.

2850
02:02:55.619 --> 02:02:57.600
It's not disagreeing with you.

2851
02:02:57.659 --> 02:02:59.159
No, no, true.

2852
02:02:59.159 --> 02:03:00.180
I mean, Go and read that essay.

2853
02:03:00.300 --> 02:03:00.899
It's brilliant.

2854
02:03:01.140 --> 02:03:01.920
No, no, I have.

2855
02:03:01.979 --> 02:03:06.300
Don't you think this is like the 1st episode of Blake 7 where Blake's put on trial?

2856
02:03:06.359 --> 02:03:08.340
No, this is fun.

2857
02:03:08.399 --> 02:03:12.180
Whereas that is all dark and talks about kitty fiddling.

2858
02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:13.859
Yeah, it is terribly good.

2859
02:03:13.920 --> 02:03:24.000
It's actually the Michael Jackson all the time, but this is this is proto-serious or quasi-serious, but it's just totes camp. and Ben is fabulous, of course.

2860
02:03:24.060 --> 02:03:25.800
There's enough about it that's good.

2861
02:03:25.859 --> 02:03:27.899
There's lots of stuff that is ridiculous.

2862
02:03:27.960 --> 02:03:30.840
But isn't there a lot of gays in his...

2863
02:03:30.899 --> 02:03:34.140
He's like, he's like the court clerk, if you like.

2864
02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:36.479
Yeah. was very interested.

2865
02:03:36.539 --> 02:03:38.159
Go back and rewind and have a look.

2866
02:03:38.340 --> 02:03:42.779
Don't you think that's what Terry Nation is reaching for the whole time?

2867
02:03:42.840 --> 02:03:46.020
I think he's reaching for the envelope to write the entire script on the back of...

2868
02:03:46.619 --> 02:03:47.279
Not 4 ideas.

2869
02:03:47.340 --> 02:03:48.359
Hello, Stephen Moff.

2870
02:03:48.420 --> 02:03:53.640
He wants to be much more garnered, grown up, an adult and stuff.

2871
02:03:53.939 --> 02:03:57.300
Well, this is, I think that's what Vasor is about.

2872
02:03:57.359 --> 02:04:11.340
I think I think Vasor is there because he wants to be edgy and adult and gun and like he just misfires and ends up with sort of camp and massively inappropriate.

2873
02:04:11.399 --> 02:04:21.840
They saw is the most this present, realist, scary shit in so far in Doctor Who, possibly in Doctor Who of all time.

2874
02:04:21.899 --> 02:04:24.180
Oh, but don't you think it was unintentional?

2875
02:04:25.380 --> 02:04:28.140
Next episode, I think he was very writing, but I think it's very effective.

2876
02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:30.960
I think everything Nation does is lazy writing.

2877
02:04:31.020 --> 02:04:32.399
You see, yeah, I think so.

2878
02:04:32.399 --> 02:04:34.859
I don't think it's not effective for that.

2879
02:04:34.920 --> 02:04:36.119
That's the big.

2880
02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:39.180
Terry Nation may not...

2881
02:04:39.180 --> 02:04:42.239
Occasionally he's groundbreaking like when he creates the Daleks.

2882
02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:43.800
Well, he doesn't really.

2883
02:04:43.859 --> 02:04:45.479
I mean, Raymond Qic creates.

2884
02:04:45.539 --> 02:04:47.039
But I would argue...

2885
02:04:47.039 --> 02:04:48.659
Yeah, the concept is actually really old.

2886
02:04:48.720 --> 02:04:50.399
Dalek invasion of Earth, perhaps.

2887
02:04:50.460 --> 02:04:52.140
But he's always reliable.

2888
02:04:52.199 --> 02:04:55.020
You're never bored watching a Terry Nation story.

2889
02:04:55.079 --> 02:04:57.960
Except in...

2890
02:04:57.960 --> 02:04:59.340
Plant of the Daleks.

2891
02:04:59.399 --> 02:05:01.680
Oh, no, Droid Invasion, I would say.

2892
02:05:01.800 --> 02:05:04.260
Three out of 4 commentators are never bought.

2893
02:05:04.319 --> 02:05:06.180
No, no, but I agree.

2894
02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:07.380
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2895
02:05:07.439 --> 02:05:08.640
He's really reliable.

2896
02:05:08.699 --> 02:05:10.739
I still love Android Inversion.

2897
02:05:10.800 --> 02:05:11.760
No, it's terrible.

2898
02:05:11.819 --> 02:05:15.060
And an interesting thought just to go to me.

2899
02:05:15.119 --> 02:05:19.439
We just had a cliffhanger where Susan has been kidnapped.

2900
02:05:19.500 --> 02:05:25.920
And of course, you know, we kind of look at Susan's character and go, oh, you know, she's always falling over and twisting her ankle and getting kicked. she twists her ankle once.

2901
02:05:25.979 --> 02:05:33.420
But it just occurred to me that this is really the 1st time Susan's being kidnapped and the others have to rescue her.

2902
02:05:33.420 --> 02:05:37.560
In the last story, it was Barbara who got kidnapped by the Hashashins.

2903
02:05:37.680 --> 02:05:39.180
Oh, good point.

2904
02:05:39.180 --> 02:05:48.720
And we could argue that's another uncomfortable rapey subtext for Barbara, but they do Barbara does just say they were deciding who was going to kill me.

2905
02:05:48.779 --> 02:05:51.659
Can I just say that Barbara does kidnap so well?

2906
02:05:51.720 --> 02:05:52.739
Yeah, yeah.

2907
02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:53.819
This is the problem.

2908
02:05:53.939 --> 02:05:54.779
Yeah.

2909
02:05:54.779 --> 02:05:56.640
And we discussed this time.

2910
02:05:56.699 --> 02:05:57.420
Gosh, she's good.

2911
02:05:57.479 --> 02:05:57.899
Look at this.

2912
02:05:57.960 --> 02:05:59.939
She's selling Susan's...

2913
02:05:59.939 --> 02:06:01.439
Oh no, she's...

2914
02:06:04.500 --> 02:06:07.859
But it's it's brutally truthful.

2915
02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:16.680
And that's that is my problem with with 1st and 2nd season doctor is Jackie Hill is so good that she she sublimates the action and makes it realistic.

2916
02:06:16.739 --> 02:06:19.800
So, unfortunately, it's no longer a comic strip.

2917
02:06:19.859 --> 02:06:21.600
I believe these terrible things are happening.

2918
02:06:21.659 --> 02:06:22.260
Yeah.

2919
02:06:22.260 --> 02:06:25.079
And it's a little, the Crusade is a great case in point.

2920
02:06:25.140 --> 02:06:26.039
It's really painful.

2921
02:06:26.100 --> 02:06:27.239
He is a terrible thing.

2922
02:06:27.300 --> 02:06:30.600
Well, yeah, he is a terrible thing, but he has...

2923
02:06:30.659 --> 02:06:37.979
But you kind of think if we got if you got someone less talented in to play that part, it would have been less...

2924
02:06:38.039 --> 02:06:39.840
No, no, I agree.

2925
02:06:39.899 --> 02:06:40.739
I agree.

2926
02:06:41.220 --> 02:06:49.079
And it is, you know, the show finding its way and all sorts of, you know, like experiments with tone and stuff.

2927
02:06:49.140 --> 02:06:51.060
They get it wrong a lot.

2928
02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:52.319
Star o'clock.

2929
02:06:52.380 --> 02:06:53.760
Oh, it's another...

2930
02:06:53.760 --> 02:07:02.579
I like when they're trying to do alien tech, like talking into a GHD hair curler or looking at a fake clock.

2931
02:07:02.640 --> 02:07:05.640
I mean, you know, there is an attempt to do something different.

2932
02:07:05.699 --> 02:07:09.539
But then they do something really lazy, like grab a plastic phone off a wall.

2933
02:07:09.539 --> 02:07:10.920
Or put a safe in.

2934
02:07:10.979 --> 02:07:12.899
Yeah.

2935
02:07:12.899 --> 02:07:14.579
But I like when they put a man in a curtain.

2936
02:07:14.640 --> 02:07:17.039
Do you know, I actually like that.

2937
02:07:17.100 --> 02:07:18.720
I actually like...

2938
02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:20.579
I've seen how you dress casually.

2939
02:07:20.579 --> 02:07:22.739
I don't mean the man in the curtain.

2940
02:07:22.800 --> 02:07:25.979
I mean, in science fiction. in a nice way.

2941
02:07:26.039 --> 02:07:34.500
Like in Battlestar Galactica, where they're constantly just are pulling plastic phones out of the wall and pulling them to their head. the original, the new one.

2942
02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:35.520
The new one.

2943
02:07:35.579 --> 02:07:38.880
I just think space safes and space.

2944
02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:41.939
I like space phones. would have been a bit crap.

2945
02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:43.380
Space, safe words.

2946
02:07:43.500 --> 02:07:44.880
Oh, ah!

2947
02:07:44.939 --> 02:07:52.500
The greatest moment in the history of all visualness is Babs fronting Fiona Walker.

2948
02:07:52.560 --> 02:07:53.699
Wow.

2949
02:07:53.760 --> 02:07:59.220
That is the Eastern Antarctic Ice Shelf meeting the Continental Drift.

2950
02:07:59.279 --> 02:08:01.680
You know that disaster is going to happen right now.

2951
02:08:01.739 --> 02:08:03.899
Also, have you admired my artwork?

2952
02:08:03.960 --> 02:08:04.380
painful.

2953
02:08:04.439 --> 02:08:06.239
Is that what we call cardi fronting?

2954
02:08:06.300 --> 02:08:06.720
It is.

2955
02:08:06.779 --> 02:08:08.159
As opposed to shirt fronting?

2956
02:08:08.220 --> 02:08:11.399
What do you think Fiona Walker does with that piece of art behind the back?

2957
02:08:11.460 --> 02:08:12.420
I think she puts men through.

2958
02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:22.680
No, that that's anticipating her appearance in iClaudius because it's that sort of lattice thing that always appears when the BBC tries to do Rome.

2959
02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:24.960
And also, I have shit teeth.

2960
02:08:25.020 --> 02:08:29.760
Oh, no, I know, but that's the best thing about Fiona Walsh. very teeth.

2961
02:08:29.819 --> 02:08:32.220
She's she's actually doing medeia.

2962
02:08:32.279 --> 02:08:33.600
She's doing Euripides right now.

2963
02:08:33.659 --> 02:08:37.680
You could all die because I'm better than all of you until I met you, Barbara.

2964
02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:40.079
It's so love hate, isn't it?

2965
02:08:40.140 --> 02:08:41.819
Am I going to kill you or marry you?

2966
02:08:42.000 --> 02:08:47.819
They both of them are just trying to decide whether or not they want to cross to the other side.

2967
02:08:49.199 --> 02:08:53.159
Yeah, she's found. so with Fiona Walker.

2968
02:08:53.220 --> 02:08:54.300
I'm so I just touched you.

2969
02:08:56.100 --> 02:08:59.220
Please try to understand. sitting there.

2970
02:08:59.220 --> 02:09:00.060
I'm better than you.

2971
02:09:00.119 --> 02:09:02.039
And that's why I'm amazing.

2972
02:09:02.100 --> 02:09:06.420
And by the way, furniture in that apartment, I don't know why you're objecting.

2973
02:09:09.899 --> 02:09:11.579
Bless you.

2974
02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:13.319
Okay, you win that one.

2975
02:09:13.380 --> 02:09:14.939
All things will soon be heard.

2976
02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:17.340
They surely will, honey.

2977
02:09:17.399 --> 02:09:19.739
Because of course, surely will.

2978
02:09:19.800 --> 02:09:21.300
Your friends were here looking for you.

2979
02:09:21.539 --> 02:09:23.640
No, don't look hopeful.

2980
02:09:23.699 --> 02:09:26.100
I ate that. to be back.

2981
02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:30.899
This dress gives me no waste and I'm still more powerful than you are also.

2982
02:09:30.960 --> 02:09:33.239
Actually, actually, Todd, your Carla.

2983
02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:35.100
Wow.

2984
02:09:35.100 --> 02:09:37.619
You would make a fabulous carla.

2985
02:09:37.680 --> 02:09:38.399
Cheers.

2986
02:09:38.399 --> 02:09:39.060
It's a lot.

2987
02:09:39.779 --> 02:09:43.439
We can bring your hair like that.

2988
02:09:43.500 --> 02:09:48.119
She's actually the best thing in this by a hairdryer mile, isn't she?

2989
02:09:48.180 --> 02:09:49.500
She's really.

2990
02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:52.920
Do you know that she was a runner-up to get Barbara?

2991
02:09:52.979 --> 02:09:54.000
Stop it.

2992
02:09:54.060 --> 02:09:55.020
Oh, really?

2993
02:09:55.079 --> 02:09:56.220
That stop.

2994
02:09:57.840 --> 02:09:59.640
I just gotcha.

2995
02:09:59.699 --> 02:10:00.899
Oh, that's a shame.

2996
02:10:00.960 --> 02:10:03.659
I could believe that Why are you torturing us, Todd?

2997
02:10:03.720 --> 02:10:05.340
We've been so nice to you.

2998
02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:06.659
Oh, yeah.

2999
02:10:06.720 --> 02:10:08.220
Which, you know what?

3000
02:10:08.279 --> 02:10:09.479
If she hadn't been Barbara.

3001
02:10:09.539 --> 02:10:13.920
It would have still fit because Barbara, of course, Jackie Hill came back as Alexa.

3002
02:10:13.979 --> 02:10:17.640
And the Fiona Walker Barbara would have come back as Lady Painford.

3003
02:10:18.840 --> 02:10:20.699
Oh, I love this bit.

3004
02:10:20.819 --> 02:10:22.140
What is it you can't face?

3005
02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:25.439
Barbara figures out, the whole thing.

3006
02:10:26.159 --> 02:10:30.060
Merely because the villains have been explaining it to her.

3007
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:34.500
And then we get Altos thinking he's back on play school in just a moment.

3008
02:10:35.100 --> 02:10:36.659
Come on.

3009
02:10:36.720 --> 02:10:37.859
We are going back.

3010
02:10:38.579 --> 02:10:40.199
Hooray.

3011
02:10:40.260 --> 02:10:40.920
Terrible.

3012
02:10:40.979 --> 02:10:42.420
Oh, yeah.

3013
02:10:42.479 --> 02:10:45.899
That goes, Ace.

3014
02:10:45.899 --> 02:10:47.159
There's a hood drive.

3015
02:10:47.279 --> 02:10:47.939
It's half cocked.

3016
02:10:48.000 --> 02:10:53.100
She's got to ruin that Vidal Sassoon, which was an entire episode's budget.

3017
02:10:53.159 --> 02:10:57.119
Oh, by the way, just because you're gay, you can still go.

3018
02:10:57.659 --> 02:11:00.359
But Susan's so prepared.

3019
02:11:00.420 --> 02:11:01.500
What did they get in there?

3020
02:11:02.819 --> 02:11:07.500
They got within 10 centimetres of it without a noticing.

3021
02:11:07.800 --> 02:11:10.380
Well, she was monologuing.

3022
02:11:10.500 --> 02:11:12.180
She watched...

3023
02:11:12.180 --> 02:11:13.500
She's like monoids, but with more hair.

3024
02:11:13.560 --> 02:11:17.399
But I think they probably have a degree in space stealth.

3025
02:11:17.460 --> 02:11:19.859
Billy's been sitting there for 2 weeks.

3026
02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:23.760
He's bored. whatever.

3027
02:11:23.819 --> 02:11:24.899
He needs to get a phone.

3028
02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:28.680
I already told your old man, you cannot have my cape go away.

3029
02:11:28.979 --> 02:11:31.020
Oh, it's you.

3030
02:11:31.500 --> 02:11:34.739
Why do you think people don't wear capes anymore?

3031
02:11:34.800 --> 02:11:36.539
I used to have cape.

3032
02:11:36.600 --> 02:11:38.699
It was only a half cape.

3033
02:11:39.840 --> 02:11:43.800
It was a nurse's cape, but like it was a 50s nurse's cape.

3034
02:11:43.859 --> 02:11:44.819
I loved it.

3035
02:11:44.880 --> 02:11:47.399
We don't need to that.

3036
02:11:47.460 --> 02:11:49.079
Yeah, do I need to ask you where?

3037
02:11:49.079 --> 02:11:50.640
In what context?

3038
02:11:50.640 --> 02:11:51.960
No, we don't know what that?

3039
02:11:52.020 --> 02:11:54.840
Now, Todd, the guard in the middle there who just came through.

3040
02:11:54.840 --> 02:11:58.800
Oh, you asked who that is earlier. his name is Lan.

3041
02:11:58.859 --> 02:12:00.899
Oh, original.

3042
02:12:01.020 --> 02:12:05.640
Which Eric Saywood later used as the original name of Susan?

3043
02:12:05.699 --> 02:12:06.659
as we mentioned earlier.

3044
02:12:06.720 --> 02:12:08.760
In complete bollocks territory.

3045
02:12:08.819 --> 02:12:11.819
At which point is this just utterly terrible?

3046
02:12:11.880 --> 02:12:16.800
You know, I thought he was the Wilbur of Mr. S. Drew.

3047
02:12:16.859 --> 02:12:18.420
If only I love Mr...

3048
02:12:18.479 --> 02:12:19.920
He was an ice guard as well.

3049
02:12:19.979 --> 02:12:20.819
All the time.

3050
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:21.659
All the time.

3051
02:12:22.079 --> 02:12:31.199
Is this the point where this just stops being watchable, although we have Billy, which is actually the waxwork, Billy, because he was currently refusing to appear.

3052
02:12:31.319 --> 02:12:32.520
Edmund Warwick in this thing.

3053
02:12:32.579 --> 02:12:34.680
Oh, no, he moved allegedly.

3054
02:12:34.979 --> 02:12:38.399
Dan Matronic. an early version of Roger Moore.

3055
02:12:41.460 --> 02:12:45.060
I think he had something bad to eat at the BBC canteen.

3056
02:12:45.239 --> 02:12:48.420
Jackie didn't bring in a chicken this lunch.

3057
02:12:48.659 --> 02:12:50.579
It's quite short.

3058
02:12:50.640 --> 02:12:57.119
Billy was bringing in Fortman Mason hampers, which cost the equivalent equivalent of a normal worker's week's pay.

3059
02:12:57.119 --> 02:12:59.220
For a Dal Sassoon haircut.

3060
02:12:59.279 --> 02:13:03.539
Yeah, yeah, no, he'd bring them in for his cast members, but he'd only share them with the people he liked.

3061
02:13:03.600 --> 02:13:05.640
No, Taryn had to eat the basket.

3062
02:13:05.699 --> 02:13:08.640
Oh.

3063
02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:12.779
Are we still doing?

3064
02:13:12.840 --> 02:13:13.920
Yes.

3065
02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:14.460
Yes.

3066
02:13:14.520 --> 02:13:17.939
It's really lovely that the doctor shows so much concern for Susan.

3067
02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:20.760
It's like, oh, you were held at gunpoint and tied up and almost died.

3068
02:13:20.819 --> 02:13:21.840
Well, I'm glad you're okay.

3069
02:13:21.899 --> 02:13:23.340
It doesn't even look her in the eye.

3070
02:13:23.399 --> 02:13:26.819
You're so dead to me I'm still executing Ian at this point.

3071
02:13:26.880 --> 02:13:28.979
Those knobs are uneven.

3072
02:13:29.039 --> 02:13:30.180
The doorknobs are uneven.

3073
02:13:30.239 --> 02:13:31.560
Do you know what it is though?

3074
02:13:31.619 --> 02:13:35.640
The doctor was like that. as Matt Smith says, I was so young then.

3075
02:13:35.699 --> 02:13:39.840
He's really, he's met Barbara, so why would you want anyone else?

3076
02:13:40.680 --> 02:13:42.960
Dum, dum, dumb.

3077
02:13:43.020 --> 02:13:45.600
In fact, since meeting Barbara.

3078
02:13:45.659 --> 02:13:53.100
Gasp, clutch, lapel, frown. grimace, pout.

3079
02:13:53.159 --> 02:13:54.539
Both of them are just selling that.

3080
02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:56.039
Oh, it's just been ruined.

3081
02:13:59.819 --> 02:14:03.119
Yeah, not Caroline's greatest.

3082
02:14:03.119 --> 02:14:05.159
And I'm her greatest fan.

3083
02:14:05.220 --> 02:14:06.119
Yeah, I know.

3084
02:14:06.119 --> 02:14:07.560
The last thing her only fan.

3085
02:14:07.619 --> 02:14:08.340
Crazy, yeah.

3086
02:14:08.399 --> 02:14:11.579
I mean, the weird thing is... husband or a special minder?

3087
02:14:11.640 --> 02:14:13.739
Is he real husband?

3088
02:14:13.800 --> 02:14:14.640
No, no, she's got a husband.

3089
02:14:14.760 --> 02:14:17.699
There's a wizard, little man, then, company. convention.

3090
02:14:17.760 --> 02:14:20.939
He was the Brian Miller all the time. she's got a stalker as well.

3091
02:14:21.000 --> 02:14:22.859
Yeah, same thing. same person.

3092
02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:29.760
As, you know, we're going on about this Vidal Sassoon haircut, which will cost a...

3093
02:14:29.760 --> 02:14:30.899
I don't think that much of it.

3094
02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:34.560
Every story, it looks great in the 1st 5 minutes of episode one.

3095
02:14:34.619 --> 02:14:36.899
No one had ever had it before, so to speak.

3096
02:14:36.960 --> 02:14:40.319
Yeah, but the thing is, it's not it's not designed for adventuring on alien planets.

3097
02:14:40.380 --> 02:14:47.880
It looks good for the 1st 5 minutes of episode one and then she screams and clutches her head and it looks like... for the rest of the episode.

3098
02:14:47.939 --> 02:14:50.279
Oh, it's a happy slapping hoodie.

3099
02:14:50.340 --> 02:14:51.720
You know what it is?

3100
02:14:51.840 --> 02:14:53.279
It's a security No.

3101
02:14:53.340 --> 02:14:57.119
That's a budget 1964 Reston Warrior robot.

3102
02:14:57.180 --> 02:14:58.800
Very budget.

3103
02:14:59.340 --> 02:15:03.960
But yeah, they don't even have the budget to do the cuts to jump him away.

3104
02:15:04.020 --> 02:15:07.079
Gee, that's the sexiest thing ever, isn't it?

3105
02:15:07.140 --> 02:15:09.300
I love that.

3106
02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:11.699
That reminds me of my childhood.

3107
02:15:11.819 --> 02:15:12.600
Oh, Todd.

3108
02:15:12.600 --> 02:15:14.760
Oh, doors, doors.

3109
02:15:14.819 --> 02:15:17.279
Look, it's just not the same when it's not written by terror.

3110
02:15:17.399 --> 02:15:18.479
That thing's gonna hurt.

3111
02:15:18.960 --> 02:15:21.779
Well, it depends which end you start with.

3112
02:15:23.100 --> 02:15:27.359
Just remembering. who and where we are.

3113
02:15:27.420 --> 02:15:28.920
Oh.

3114
02:15:28.920 --> 02:15:32.100
It really is the best Mario robot.

3115
02:15:32.159 --> 02:15:33.060
Now, these are great.

3116
02:15:33.060 --> 02:15:33.840
Billy's here.

3117
02:15:33.899 --> 02:15:36.479
These are the 3 that we should be doing snorg movies.

3118
02:15:36.600 --> 02:15:38.399
I thought it was him.

3119
02:15:38.460 --> 02:15:39.359
Call the poison.

3120
02:15:39.479 --> 02:15:41.279
It wasn't Tauron.

3121
02:15:41.399 --> 02:15:44.699
Do you know, but that was Billy's hero moment.

3122
02:15:44.760 --> 02:15:47.039
Is that the 1st time he intentionally solves the problem?

3123
02:15:47.100 --> 02:15:48.359
Yeah, yep, yep.

3124
02:15:48.420 --> 02:15:49.319
Yeah, it is.

3125
02:15:49.380 --> 02:15:54.479
Goes back to help Arbiter and then smells his fascism on...

3126
02:15:54.539 --> 02:15:59.159
Also, suddenly the Prussians are our biggest friends because NATO.

3127
02:16:00.060 --> 02:16:02.100
Still the prosecutor.

3128
02:16:02.159 --> 02:16:03.119
No, everything.

3129
02:16:03.119 --> 02:16:04.739
NATO is irrelevant these days.

3130
02:16:04.800 --> 02:16:06.659
Only because Donald Trump tells us to.

3131
02:16:06.720 --> 02:16:07.260
Yeah, yeah.

3132
02:16:07.319 --> 02:16:08.880
We believe him.

3133
02:16:09.000 --> 02:16:14.640
The weird thing is, it's kind of a bit like Scarlioni scheme and like they've planned to steal the key and sell it.

3134
02:16:14.699 --> 02:16:15.899
It's like there's 5 of them.

3135
02:16:16.079 --> 02:16:18.960
Boy, how are you going to sell that on eBay?

3136
02:16:19.020 --> 02:16:20.460
Boys, boys, and love.

3137
02:16:21.359 --> 02:16:27.359
Billy drops his 1st famous name and it's Piro, the philosopher who no one's heard of.

3138
02:16:27.420 --> 02:16:31.319
Well, actually he dropped Gilbert and Sullivan in the Edge of Destruction.

3139
02:16:31.439 --> 02:16:32.520
Yeah, they're fictional.

3140
02:16:32.579 --> 02:16:34.440
You are such fans.

3141
02:16:34.860 --> 02:16:36.840
Gentle persons.

3142
02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:43.920
This story, dear listener, is reaching your dulcet drums at what month?

3143
02:16:44.459 --> 02:16:49.500
This would be going out in end of October or beginning of November.

3144
02:16:49.559 --> 02:16:56.219
Do you realise the American elections are at that time, beginning of November, we might actually have Trump as president when this goes out?

3145
02:16:56.280 --> 02:16:59.819
Will everyone will be dead by then, then no one will hear this.

3146
02:16:59.879 --> 02:17:02.579
Okay, that makes keys of mariners seem like reality.

3147
02:17:02.819 --> 02:17:06.540
Well, let's just do an optional and I'll drop this back in.

3148
02:17:06.600 --> 02:17:07.319
No, I won't.

3149
02:17:07.379 --> 02:17:09.899
We could have Hillary Clinton as president by then.

3150
02:17:09.959 --> 02:17:16.319
We could have that Zoltan guy who thinks we should upload our brains to computers as president by then.

3151
02:17:16.379 --> 02:17:17.459
Horrible Zoden.

3152
02:17:17.459 --> 02:17:23.700
And there's someone else who wants to cure things between the president and it's entirely possible.

3153
02:17:23.760 --> 02:17:31.319
I think the keys of mariners could indeed be Robert Graves light story of what is going to happen.

3154
02:17:31.379 --> 02:17:36.780
I heard a general on the Philip Adams Late Night Live podcast, which you can find anywhere in the world.

3155
02:17:36.840 --> 02:17:39.840
An ex-general, very senior military guy.

3156
02:17:39.899 --> 02:17:41.280
Adam said to him.

3157
02:17:41.520 --> 02:17:49.200
So if Trump becomes president yet, that's not going to happen, he said, well, you know, if it could, you know, it's true, isn't it?

3158
02:17:49.260 --> 02:17:53.100
The president still, I mean, Obama still carries around the suitcase with the red button.

3159
02:17:53.159 --> 02:17:55.319
That's not an episode of The Simpsons.

3160
02:17:55.379 --> 02:17:55.979
That really happens.

3161
02:17:56.040 --> 02:17:58.139
And the general said, yes, that is true.

3162
02:17:58.200 --> 02:18:00.600
The president is the CIC of the armed forces.

3163
02:18:00.659 --> 02:18:04.739
So if Trump becomes, you know, CIC, he said, that will not happen.

3164
02:18:04.799 --> 02:18:08.399
Yeah, that's a very hair on the left. something is going to happen.

3165
02:18:08.459 --> 02:18:11.819
Something is going to happen, dear listener, and I think it's going to do with Zen.

3166
02:18:11.879 --> 02:18:14.940
Oh my god, this is so kinky. exhausted.

3167
02:18:15.059 --> 02:18:19.500
Now, inside the suit as Yartek, leader of the alien vault.

3168
02:18:19.500 --> 02:18:20.940
Caroline Ford.

3169
02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:22.500
Is Stephen Dartnell?

3170
02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:25.979
Who is later on in sense or...

3171
02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:26.219
Yes.

3172
02:18:26.219 --> 02:18:29.459
I think it becomes professor of mediaeval French poetry.

3173
02:18:29.520 --> 02:18:30.360
Richard Cambridge?

3174
02:18:30.420 --> 02:18:31.500
Oh, yeah, Mamoto.

3175
02:18:31.500 --> 02:18:34.799
Stephen Dartnell in the censor rights is John.

3176
02:18:34.860 --> 02:18:37.860
The crewman who's mad at the beginning and is cured.

3177
02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:41.459
Oh, the day really looked alike. covered this.

3178
02:18:41.819 --> 02:18:43.860
He's Arbitan.

3179
02:18:43.920 --> 02:18:45.299
He's...

3180
02:18:45.360 --> 02:18:48.600
Can you cover this in the most exciting episode of our podcast for all time?

3181
02:18:48.659 --> 02:18:51.659
Sabita actually gets quite a heroic moment here.

3182
02:18:51.719 --> 02:18:52.680
She does.

3183
02:18:52.739 --> 02:18:55.379
She's really the Agnita of this story.

3184
02:18:55.500 --> 02:18:57.780
Also, that mask is terrifying.

3185
02:18:57.840 --> 02:18:59.879
I believe they're considering...

3186
02:18:59.940 --> 02:19:03.299
And there's his eye. at this point and leaving Susan behind.

3187
02:19:04.319 --> 02:19:06.780
Look, there's Stephen Dartnell's eye.

3188
02:19:06.840 --> 02:19:07.440
He just blinks.

3189
02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:08.579
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3190
02:19:08.639 --> 02:19:09.959
This is a beautiful mask.

3191
02:19:10.020 --> 02:19:12.059
I'm feeling quite.

3192
02:19:12.239 --> 02:19:13.979
I'm feeling a lot of mixed emotions right now.

3193
02:19:14.040 --> 02:19:15.059
How are you all feeling?

3194
02:19:15.120 --> 02:19:15.840
You know what?

3195
02:19:15.899 --> 02:19:24.719
I am and I am not judging anyone who is, but personally, I am not interested in rubber or wetsuits, but I wouldn't mind a board mask.

3196
02:19:24.780 --> 02:19:26.040
They are a beautiful creation.

3197
02:19:26.940 --> 02:19:28.500
Also, a little bit scary.

3198
02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:31.260
Also, there's no reason that can't be a human underneath it.

3199
02:19:31.319 --> 02:19:36.780
I have to say that I'm feeling somewhere between 0 and one emotions at the moment.

3200
02:19:36.899 --> 02:19:39.540
You're very binary on this, aren't you?

3201
02:19:39.600 --> 02:19:41.760
No, no, it could be a continuum.

3202
02:19:41.819 --> 02:19:43.379
It might be sort of 0.5.

3203
02:19:43.559 --> 02:19:45.540
Well, there are 10 types of people in this world.

3204
02:19:45.600 --> 02:19:46.559
Yeah, yeah.

3205
02:19:46.680 --> 02:19:48.479
No, there are 18 according to them.

3206
02:19:48.479 --> 02:19:50.879
No, those are in county binary and those who can't.

3207
02:19:50.940 --> 02:19:52.319
I'm not buying this.

3208
02:19:52.379 --> 02:19:53.819
They're not going to get married.

3209
02:19:53.879 --> 02:19:56.520
She's going to be bitterly disappointed later if they do.

3210
02:19:56.940 --> 02:19:58.620
What's happening?

3211
02:19:58.680 --> 02:20:06.000
She's discovered that her father has pledged to marry Yartek, barely involved.

3212
02:20:06.059 --> 02:20:06.899
Oh, look at you.

3213
02:20:06.899 --> 02:20:08.280
And she was like super upset.

3214
02:20:08.340 --> 02:20:12.299
It's like a whole family tradition thing happening.

3215
02:20:12.360 --> 02:20:14.520
Oh, it's a comedy moment.

3216
02:20:14.639 --> 02:20:15.659
Scooby Dooby Doo.

3217
02:20:15.719 --> 02:20:16.200
I do like that.

3218
02:20:16.260 --> 02:20:20.280
Yeah, can't we do that thing where we were falling into the walls?

3219
02:20:20.340 --> 02:20:21.959
Sacre blur.

3220
02:20:22.680 --> 02:20:28.979
No, I think I think Sabetha Vera has just discovered that Altos wants to stay behind with the men in the rubber suit.its.

3221
02:20:30.540 --> 02:20:33.059
It's an old story as well.

3222
02:20:33.120 --> 02:20:34.139
Grandfather.

3223
02:20:34.379 --> 02:20:36.659
Drive around the pit.

3224
02:20:36.719 --> 02:20:37.500
No, that's it.

3225
02:20:37.559 --> 02:20:40.620
If only they would allow gay marriage on mariners.

3226
02:20:40.680 --> 02:20:41.700
This sort of thing wouldn't happen.

3227
02:20:42.120 --> 02:20:44.700
Barbara and Carla could get married.

3228
02:20:44.760 --> 02:20:46.500
Barbara and Carla will get married.

3229
02:20:46.559 --> 02:20:48.120
Take over the whole world.

3230
02:20:48.239 --> 02:20:56.459
Sabitha and Altos wouldn't have to get married just to sort of hide things so that he would sneak off with Yardec of the alien board.

3231
02:20:56.520 --> 02:20:59.040
I love that he's kept on Arbiton's robe.

3232
02:20:59.459 --> 02:21:08.340
There's like, at this point, there's literally, he will use it later, but at this point, there's literally no reason for it other than him going, yeah, I like this.

3233
02:21:08.520 --> 02:21:10.739
I'm going to wear the robe.

3234
02:21:10.799 --> 02:21:11.819
I'm going to wear the bling.

3235
02:21:11.879 --> 02:21:12.540
Yep.

3236
02:21:12.540 --> 02:21:13.920
So you've got...

3237
02:21:13.920 --> 02:21:16.020
I'm going to keep the...

3238
02:21:16.079 --> 02:21:20.819
I just laugh every time, like he says, keep away, the radiation from the machine has affected me.

3239
02:21:20.879 --> 02:21:24.059
Have you you've been watching The Greatest Generation?

3240
02:21:24.180 --> 02:21:26.100
I've listened to a few.

3241
02:21:26.159 --> 02:21:26.399
Yeah.

3242
02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:27.540
Bruce Foresight, yeah.

3243
02:21:27.600 --> 02:21:28.079
Yeah.

3244
02:21:28.139 --> 02:21:31.440
And you know that they have the This is beautiful, by the way.

3245
02:21:31.500 --> 02:21:32.100
Look at that.

3246
02:21:32.159 --> 02:21:39.059
No, like Yartec sticking isolinear chips from the Enterprise into the theme.

3247
02:21:39.180 --> 02:21:41.219
Also, that's a loving touch.

3248
02:21:41.280 --> 02:21:42.059
Did you just see that?

3249
02:21:42.120 --> 02:21:43.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3250
02:21:43.799 --> 02:21:46.559
He met he met every single gesture of that.

3251
02:21:46.620 --> 02:21:52.319
Big finish has, of course, brought the board back in a story called Domain of the board.

3252
02:21:52.379 --> 02:21:53.280
I've not heard it yet.

3253
02:21:53.399 --> 02:21:56.280
But it's had good reviews that evokes the era very well.

3254
02:21:57.479 --> 02:22:01.559
Is it set in between episodes one and 2 of the episode?

3255
02:22:02.100 --> 02:22:02.399
version.

3256
02:22:02.459 --> 02:22:03.360
It's great.

3257
02:22:03.780 --> 02:22:06.059
Yes, whatever.

3258
02:22:06.059 --> 02:22:07.379
The domain of the board.

3259
02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:10.260
That's rubbish. should be called vengeance of the Vore.

3260
02:22:10.979 --> 02:22:13.260
Vengeance on Vortos.

3261
02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:14.579
Yeah, yeah, brilliant.

3262
02:22:14.819 --> 02:22:16.260
See?

3263
02:22:16.319 --> 02:22:16.860
Big finish.

3264
02:22:16.920 --> 02:22:17.399
Hi at me.

3265
02:22:20.520 --> 02:22:23.040
They never accept my pictures.

3266
02:22:23.100 --> 02:22:24.840
I've got a great story for the valiard.

3267
02:22:24.899 --> 02:22:27.059
Yeah, they bastards.

3268
02:22:27.120 --> 02:22:29.639
Michael Jason doesn't get any work.

3269
02:22:29.700 --> 02:22:31.680
For God's sake, he'd be grateful for it.

3270
02:22:31.920 --> 02:22:38.159
Well, he still is trying to petition the BBC that he's actually a doctor.

3271
02:22:38.879 --> 02:22:41.219
You didn't know this, don't you?

3272
02:22:41.280 --> 02:22:42.299
God, really?

3273
02:22:42.360 --> 02:22:47.100
Yeah, everyone were at the convention in... in Los Angeles.

3274
02:22:47.159 --> 02:22:51.479
Like he was guest and saying, oh, you're telling everybody, you know, that he actually is a doctor.

3275
02:22:51.540 --> 02:22:52.260
Oh, here we go.

3276
02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:57.600
Look, it look, it always looks like one of those little people. mask off.

3277
02:22:57.659 --> 02:23:00.420
He looks like the veneer when they've got their hood up.

3278
02:23:00.659 --> 02:23:02.579
In terminus.

3279
02:23:02.639 --> 02:23:03.239
What?

3280
02:23:03.299 --> 02:23:03.719
What's that?

3281
02:23:04.559 --> 02:23:08.700
I don't know anything about it How is this 6 episodes and it's more entertaining than terminus at four?

3282
02:23:08.760 --> 02:23:09.659
No, it is.

3283
02:23:09.719 --> 02:23:10.559
Anything.

3284
02:23:11.219 --> 02:23:13.559
This is a lot more fun, isn't it?

3285
02:23:13.680 --> 02:23:17.340
Because they know they can't stretch any of the little stories out so they don't try to.

3286
02:23:17.399 --> 02:23:20.700
No, that's that thing I say in our actual original podcast.

3287
02:23:21.239 --> 02:23:24.659
Everything's quite tiresome, but it's over quite quickly.

3288
02:23:24.780 --> 02:23:27.479
The power from a machine has escaped.

3289
02:23:27.540 --> 02:23:29.459
Actually, Todd, this is...

3290
02:23:29.520 --> 02:23:34.559
This is exactly what you were talking about, Interpretus, where Olvia can't move 2 inches forward to grab the gub.

3291
02:23:34.620 --> 02:23:35.819
I think that was me.

3292
02:23:35.879 --> 02:23:36.360
Okay.

3293
02:23:36.659 --> 02:23:48.420
It's a beautiful set The restrictions of theatre acting are, unfortunately, prescribing this kind of awkward response from Yartik leader of the alien board.com.

3294
02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:53.159
And we can't just look into your face and note just that...

3295
02:23:53.219 --> 02:23:54.659
Well, no, no, no.

3296
02:23:54.719 --> 02:23:56.459
Although he's a totally different size.

3297
02:23:56.520 --> 02:24:01.920
Yeah, he could be standing behind the machine, which is unfortunate.

3298
02:24:01.979 --> 02:24:02.340
Yeah.

3299
02:24:02.340 --> 02:24:04.079
Damn it, John Gory.

3300
02:24:04.139 --> 02:24:08.219
Yeah, in fact, really, the sets are quite interesting and the lighting is great.

3301
02:24:08.280 --> 02:24:09.420
He could have done this a lot better.

3302
02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:14.520
It would have made more sense if, um, yeah, if it stood somewhere else.

3303
02:24:14.579 --> 02:24:23.760
What you said in the 1st episode where, you know, you've got those gorgeous, serrated heels in the background that are really theatring.

3304
02:24:23.819 --> 02:24:27.180
Ooh, you could get some lovely bit of cheddar on that, couldn't you?

3305
02:24:27.239 --> 02:24:27.780
Yeah.

3306
02:24:27.840 --> 02:24:30.840
No, it doesn't need to be realistic.

3307
02:24:30.899 --> 02:24:32.879
I mean, the level at which they're operating.

3308
02:24:33.000 --> 02:24:37.739
I think the realism or the sense of drama is heightened by the unreality.

3309
02:24:37.799 --> 02:24:39.120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3310
02:24:39.120 --> 02:24:39.719
The representation.

3311
02:24:39.780 --> 02:24:42.479
You focus more on the performances, your dreamlike state.

3312
02:24:42.540 --> 02:24:44.940
The other thing to consider is...

3313
02:24:44.940 --> 02:24:45.959
It was me on the time.

3314
02:24:45.959 --> 02:24:47.639
I just can't get this stupid hair on.

3315
02:24:48.180 --> 02:24:53.579
What the hell are these haunts for except for things to do when they grabbed them with your friends?

3316
02:24:53.639 --> 02:24:55.440
Tinky, Winky, shut up.

3317
02:24:55.500 --> 02:24:56.520
It's my scene.

3318
02:24:56.579 --> 02:24:58.559
They detect etheric commissions.

3319
02:24:58.680 --> 02:25:02.040
But we are we are still in lime grove at this stage.

3320
02:25:02.040 --> 02:25:03.000
It's tiny.

3321
02:25:03.059 --> 02:25:14.280
And we've got, we've got the conscience, conscience sets and we've also got the courtroom, the courtroom antechamber set, and Carla set.

3322
02:25:14.459 --> 02:25:15.479
I can smell tossed.

3323
02:25:15.540 --> 02:25:16.260
Is that bad?

3324
02:25:16.260 --> 02:25:17.159
on the same day.

3325
02:25:17.219 --> 02:25:20.940
And they would have had to set these back up again from...

3326
02:25:20.940 --> 02:25:21.420
Six weeks ago.

3327
02:25:21.479 --> 02:25:22.020
Yeah.

3328
02:25:22.020 --> 02:25:24.420
You know, so filmed like that, didn't they?

3329
02:25:24.479 --> 02:25:31.379
Ideally, I think I seem to recall Raymond Cusick saying, Lime Grove, you could just fit 6 sets.

3330
02:25:31.440 --> 02:25:34.860
So we've had the cell, we've had this corridor, we've got the conscience room.

3331
02:25:35.520 --> 02:25:37.920
We've got Carla's flat.

3332
02:25:37.979 --> 02:25:38.760
We've got...

3333
02:25:38.760 --> 02:25:39.840
Yes, we do have legs.

3334
02:25:39.899 --> 02:25:44.399
We've got reception and we'll have an exterior set soon, so that's your six.

3335
02:25:45.479 --> 02:25:48.719
Carcinome set before it ever appeared.

3336
02:25:48.780 --> 02:25:51.000
Yeah, you know, you're probably right, Richard.

3337
02:25:51.059 --> 02:25:52.979
Altos is kissing all the girls.

3338
02:25:53.040 --> 02:25:55.860
Yes, such a faker.

3339
02:25:55.920 --> 02:25:56.639
Yeah, I know.

3340
02:25:56.700 --> 02:25:58.799
So in the new version, I love those boots.

3341
02:25:58.860 --> 02:26:00.659
The boots are great, aren't they?

3342
02:26:00.780 --> 02:26:02.579
And the new version of you played by Tom Cruise.

3343
02:26:02.700 --> 02:26:04.139
I'm okay.

3344
02:26:04.200 --> 02:26:04.799
I'm not gay.

3345
02:26:04.860 --> 02:26:06.120
I'm in love with Kitty Holmes.

3346
02:26:07.319 --> 02:26:10.920
I'm going to bounce on your side, particularly believe me.

3347
02:26:10.979 --> 02:26:12.659
My dear boy.

3348
02:26:12.719 --> 02:26:16.799
I love I love Sabita's reaction. like, you stupid boy.

3349
02:26:17.219 --> 02:26:20.219
Then a whole thing's going to explode.

3350
02:26:20.280 --> 02:26:24.299
You said the machine in motion. was it the power?

3351
02:26:24.360 --> 02:26:26.100
I can't remember what...

3352
02:26:26.100 --> 02:26:26.879
He'll know all about it.

3353
02:26:27.059 --> 02:26:30.479
What actually happens to the doe decahedron.

3354
02:26:30.540 --> 02:26:35.159
Well, they just said them when Yartec puts in the false key, it'll blow up.

3355
02:26:35.219 --> 02:26:36.059
Oh, really?

3356
02:26:36.059 --> 02:26:42.360
So why would the fail safe be the whole James Bond Lotus?

3357
02:26:42.420 --> 02:26:42.719
Yeah, yeah.

3358
02:26:42.780 --> 02:26:46.920
It was made by the people who made the James Bond latest from Fure Eyes only.

3359
02:26:46.979 --> 02:26:48.239
I love that they can't get out.

3360
02:26:48.299 --> 02:26:50.159
Fiona Walker only.

3361
02:26:50.219 --> 02:26:52.319
For God's sake, we just fairly know.

3362
02:26:52.379 --> 02:26:54.059
By the way, I'm right behind you, look.

3363
02:26:57.180 --> 02:26:58.979
Why haven't you obeyed my commands?

3364
02:26:59.040 --> 02:27:00.180
I'm the one in the suit.

3365
02:27:00.239 --> 02:27:01.020
Oh, we both are.

3366
02:27:01.079 --> 02:27:01.979
Okay, I can see that.

3367
02:27:02.040 --> 02:27:02.940
But I have a cloak.

3368
02:27:03.000 --> 02:27:05.639
Yeah, well, you know, I'm still in the gimp, yeah.

3369
02:27:05.700 --> 02:27:06.239
Of course.

3370
02:27:06.299 --> 02:27:07.559
It's a Zentai.

3371
02:27:07.620 --> 02:27:18.360
I will say, I think Terry Nation is quite clever here in that he's avoiding making a comment as to whether this thought control device is right or wrong by just blowing it up.

3372
02:27:18.719 --> 02:27:23.100
I actually reckon he just hasn't thought about the implications of it.

3373
02:27:23.159 --> 02:27:24.180
I'm with you.

3374
02:27:24.239 --> 02:27:25.799
Todd, what do you think?

3375
02:27:25.860 --> 02:27:28.020
You're the only sober one here.

3376
02:27:28.079 --> 02:27:29.579
Oh, I agree.

3377
02:27:29.639 --> 02:27:31.559
Oh, that's an explosion?

3378
02:27:31.559 --> 02:27:33.420
Oh, yeah, that's...

3379
02:27:33.540 --> 02:27:34.620
Oh, they found the door.

3380
02:27:34.680 --> 02:27:40.260
But no, he often in his stuff, he doesn't really, there's a concept, but it's not necessarily thought through.

3381
02:27:40.319 --> 02:27:40.799
No.

3382
02:27:40.799 --> 02:27:42.780
Yeah, it's a bit like Kevin Jane Baker, really.

3383
02:27:42.959 --> 02:27:44.700
Fighting words.

3384
02:27:44.760 --> 02:27:48.180
Yes, you're gone, and even younger than my granddaughter.

3385
02:27:48.299 --> 02:27:53.700
And pull in tight because we've got like 3 feet of set around us.

3386
02:27:53.760 --> 02:27:55.079
Fine by me.

3387
02:27:55.139 --> 02:27:58.559
I'm really sad that I won't be coming with you, no more work for me.

3388
02:28:01.680 --> 02:28:03.659
She'll probably become an actor's agent.

3389
02:28:06.719 --> 02:28:08.760
Like that's never happened before.

3390
02:28:08.819 --> 02:28:14.940
Almost never happens. leaving you here to die on this planet with nothing.

3391
02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:16.379
Oh, no, wait a second.

3392
02:28:16.440 --> 02:28:16.680
Come in.

3393
02:28:16.739 --> 02:28:18.360
We'll return to that later.

3394
02:28:18.600 --> 02:28:21.000
We'll be happy with her on the train.

3395
02:28:21.659 --> 02:28:23.219
Who's Sabitha?

3396
02:28:23.280 --> 02:28:23.579
Yeah.

3397
02:28:23.639 --> 02:28:24.360
No, she's terrible.

3398
02:28:24.659 --> 02:28:26.340
Why?

3399
02:28:26.399 --> 02:28:27.959
Altos.

3400
02:28:28.020 --> 02:28:30.059
Although he's kind of hideous.

3401
02:28:30.120 --> 02:28:31.139
Oh, really?

3402
02:28:31.200 --> 02:28:32.879
He's just a wax strip, isn't he?

3403
02:28:32.940 --> 02:28:34.799
And look, he's still in his dressing gown.

3404
02:28:34.860 --> 02:28:35.700
Yeah, well, couldn't you?

3405
02:28:35.760 --> 02:28:36.899
Oh, yes.

3406
02:28:36.959 --> 02:28:38.100
Kissy, kissy.

3407
02:28:38.159 --> 02:28:38.760
Bye bye.

3408
02:28:38.819 --> 02:28:39.719
I had a shit time.

3409
02:28:39.780 --> 02:28:41.819
I'm never coming back So what's happening next?

3410
02:28:41.940 --> 02:28:43.979
I just heard Barbara say that.

3411
02:28:44.040 --> 02:28:45.299
What's the main story?

3412
02:28:45.719 --> 02:28:47.639
The Aztecs.

3413
02:28:47.760 --> 02:28:49.379
That's terrible.

3414
02:28:49.440 --> 02:28:58.680
Now, um, Catherine's Schofielders, Sabitha, actually had quite a long career through to 1989. name to Paul Scofield when she retired.

3415
02:28:58.739 --> 02:29:01.020
Led as King Lear at the RSC.

3416
02:29:01.079 --> 02:29:01.500
She was amazing.

3417
02:29:01.559 --> 02:29:09.659
Listeners of this podcast may recognise her from the movie Life Force, but also the naked civil servant in which she played Mrs. Pole.

3418
02:29:09.719 --> 02:29:10.559
Oh.

3419
02:29:10.559 --> 02:29:15.059
Is she dead body number 3 in an episode of Murder she wrote.

3420
02:29:15.120 --> 02:29:17.219
Well, weren't we all?

3421
02:29:17.280 --> 02:29:18.959
She played...

3422
02:29:18.959 --> 02:29:20.159
I love the way that Bruce left.

3423
02:29:20.219 --> 02:29:21.239
It's really good, isn't it?

3424
02:29:21.299 --> 02:29:22.680
It's actually quite enjoyable.

3425
02:29:22.739 --> 02:29:23.700
Are you telling me we have another?

3426
02:29:23.819 --> 02:29:25.020
No, no, I love his story.

3427
02:29:26.159 --> 02:29:28.920
That's the 1st episode of the Aztec is Temple of Evil.

3428
02:29:28.979 --> 02:29:30.659
I mean, wasn't I grown?

3429
02:29:30.719 --> 02:29:33.719
Well, gentlemen, final thought. top of my head.

3430
02:29:33.780 --> 02:29:36.059
That didn't feel quite as long as I thought it would.

3431
02:29:36.120 --> 02:29:37.079
How about you, Todd?

3432
02:29:37.139 --> 02:29:38.940
No, that's what Altos said.

3433
02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:40.319
Sorry, Todd, carry on.

3434
02:29:40.379 --> 02:29:41.159
No, that's fine.

3435
02:29:41.760 --> 02:29:46.920
Actually, Todd, my thighs are sort of pretty cold at the moment.

3436
02:29:46.979 --> 02:29:48.120
Are they, Nathan?

3437
02:29:48.180 --> 02:29:49.020
Make me just help you.

3438
02:29:49.079 --> 02:29:49.860
Thanks, darling.

3439
02:29:49.920 --> 02:29:50.700
How are yours?

3440
02:29:50.700 --> 02:29:53.159
Oh, I think we might need some tag.

3441
02:29:53.879 --> 02:29:57.180
Duffy dare. did a great job.

3442
02:29:57.239 --> 02:30:00.180
Nathan, do you still love it?

3443
02:30:00.239 --> 02:30:07.079
I actually think this is a romp and it is something like it's a romp.

3444
02:30:07.200 --> 02:30:11.819
It's an avenue that the show didn't quite take. ever again for some reason.

3445
02:30:11.879 --> 02:30:13.440
Well, except for chase.

3446
02:30:13.500 --> 02:30:19.260
Yeah, and that's what I like about the chase and even the bits about Dalek masterplan that I like do the same thing.

3447
02:30:19.319 --> 02:30:21.000
You know what doesn't work in this story?

3448
02:30:21.059 --> 02:30:21.899
John Gory.

3449
02:30:21.959 --> 02:30:26.700
I think if we had a more resolved and rounded director, it would have been superb.

3450
02:30:26.819 --> 02:30:28.260
It's really early though.

3451
02:30:28.319 --> 02:30:30.120
It's really early.

3452
02:30:30.180 --> 02:30:31.739
They're still fighting their way.

3453
02:30:31.799 --> 02:30:33.840
Brendan, what else have John Gory done?

3454
02:30:34.319 --> 02:30:38.219
Off the top of my head, I don't know. and we are back at the menu now.

3455
02:30:38.819 --> 02:30:40.739
He had done stuff.

3456
02:30:40.799 --> 02:30:41.280
You know what?

3457
02:30:41.340 --> 02:30:44.639
Much like Terry Nation, he's reliable and he gets the job done.

3458
02:30:44.700 --> 02:30:47.879
But yes, you're right. could have been more spectacular.

3459
02:30:47.940 --> 02:30:48.659
For me...

3460
02:30:48.659 --> 02:30:49.500
You just hit it.

3461
02:30:49.559 --> 02:30:50.399
Sorry, you just hit it.

3462
02:30:50.459 --> 02:30:51.780
That's what Terry does.

3463
02:30:51.840 --> 02:30:57.780
So you actually need someone to sublimate and elevate or you're just going to end up with...

3464
02:30:57.840 --> 02:31:00.360
And I know you have Richard Martin doing the chase.

3465
02:31:00.479 --> 02:31:02.940
Yeah, but I love the chase.

3466
02:31:03.000 --> 02:31:06.840
And then we get Dougie Campfield doing...

3467
02:31:06.899 --> 02:31:08.399
That's why...

3468
02:31:08.399 --> 02:31:09.239
Duggee Campfield.

3469
02:31:09.299 --> 02:31:10.020
You know what?

3470
02:31:10.079 --> 02:31:14.040
If you've enjoyed the episodic nature of this and bouncing around to different locations.

3471
02:31:14.100 --> 02:31:17.399
Also check out the 1st series of dark eyes.

3472
02:31:17.399 --> 02:31:18.780
Oh, really?

3473
02:31:18.840 --> 02:31:20.760
Yeah, yeah, because I love dark eyes.

3474
02:31:20.819 --> 02:31:23.040
That's that's very popping about to different places.

3475
02:31:23.100 --> 02:31:25.020
But it's also really nicely done.

3476
02:31:25.079 --> 02:31:27.059
But I actually think it's sliders.

3477
02:31:27.120 --> 02:31:30.360
That pops around to different places too. kind of terrible.

3478
02:31:30.420 --> 02:31:43.680
But I think that the new series does that in the early seasons where the the idea, you know, the concept of a story and an episode is still kind of like not completely settled.

3479
02:31:43.799 --> 02:31:47.100
Is the Eccleston series still that your favourite of the new?

3480
02:31:47.100 --> 02:31:48.120
Maybe.

3481
02:31:48.120 --> 02:31:49.020
Of the reboot.

3482
02:31:49.020 --> 02:31:49.860
It is still mine.

3483
02:31:49.920 --> 02:31:51.360
I've been watching a bit of it.

3484
02:31:52.200 --> 02:31:57.120
Yeah, but it's just so fresh and energetic and...

3485
02:31:57.120 --> 02:32:01.500
I love the Eccleston series of the new series is probably my 4th favourite.

3486
02:32:01.559 --> 02:32:06.659
My my top, though, is series four, tenant, a tenant and eight.

3487
02:32:06.780 --> 02:32:07.620
I knew you would say that.

3488
02:32:07.680 --> 02:32:10.920
For me, it goes Tenant and Tate. 1st series of Matt.

3489
02:32:12.120 --> 02:32:16.319
Series 9 that we've just had with Capaldi and then Eccleston series.

3490
02:32:16.379 --> 02:32:17.340
Okay.

3491
02:32:18.120 --> 02:32:21.059
It says you who's not a fan of the new series.

3492
02:32:21.120 --> 02:32:27.659
I am a fan of the new series, but the old, this, this, that we've just watched.

3493
02:32:27.719 --> 02:32:32.639
This makes my heart scene whereas the new series makes my heart very happy.

3494
02:32:32.700 --> 02:32:34.979
Yeah, I agree with you completely.

3495
02:32:35.040 --> 02:32:39.000
It just feels like a lovely fan interpretation of something we used to really love.

3496
02:32:39.059 --> 02:32:57.540
This is still, this is still, every bit as exciting for me as it was the 1st time I watched it when I was 12 because it evokes that feeling and it evokes, um, it evokes the friendship I had, um, because, um, Peter's moved overseas now and I haven't spoken to him in many years, but it evokes that friendship.

3497
02:32:57.600 --> 02:33:04.799
I have where, you know, he made me about 10 bootleg tapes of Doctor Who stories I didn't have.

3498
02:33:04.799 --> 02:33:11.459
And, you know, it ranged from stuff like this to survival and the ultimate foe, you know, which I'd never seen.

3499
02:33:11.520 --> 02:33:17.459
And, you know, they were third, fourth, 5th generation VHS.

3500
02:33:17.459 --> 02:33:18.420
They were terrible.

3501
02:33:18.420 --> 02:33:20.040
But that was part of the experience.

3502
02:33:20.100 --> 02:33:20.700
Yeah, yeah.

3503
02:33:20.700 --> 02:33:36.059
Dear listeners, if you if you've only come to the classic series with the DVDs, check out on Revenge of the Cybermen, a documentary called Checks Wise and Videotape, which shows you what VHS degradation looks like.

3504
02:33:36.120 --> 02:33:41.819
Now, in terms of our next episode, we will be moving on to next Warriors of the Deep.

3505
02:33:41.879 --> 02:33:44.579
I can't tell you exactly when that will be.

3506
02:33:44.639 --> 02:33:52.139
Um, I'm hoping it will be 2 to 3 weeks after this episode because this episode goes out while I am still overseas for work.

3507
02:33:52.200 --> 02:33:54.360
So I don't know.

3508
02:33:54.420 --> 02:33:58.260
We're not going to have a chance to record it before I go, so it'll have to be shortly after I come back.

3509
02:33:58.319 --> 02:34:01.260
But we will be back as soon as we possibly can.

3510
02:34:01.319 --> 02:34:11.040
We will announce on our Facebook and Twitter at FTE podcast and flight through entirety on Twitter and iTunes as to when we will be coming back.

3511
02:34:11.100 --> 02:34:20.520
If you have enjoyed this commentary, and certainly if you want to hear more of Richard's German accent and Richard screaming, I can't hear you.

3512
02:34:20.579 --> 02:34:30.780
Do check out Bondfinger.com, Bondfinger cast on Twitter, on Twitter and Bondfinger on Facebook and iTunes.

3513
02:34:32.399 --> 02:34:34.739
Any parting comments, gentlemen?

3514
02:34:37.799 --> 02:34:39.420
Todd's good.

3515
02:34:39.479 --> 02:34:40.379
Is it Michael?

3516
02:34:40.559 --> 02:34:44.520
Well, I won't be back for Warriors of the Dean.

3517
02:34:44.579 --> 02:34:45.299
No, that's true.

3518
02:34:45.360 --> 02:34:49.799
You will join us again for the case of Andrazani. that's right What do you feel about this, Tuan?

3519
02:34:49.860 --> 02:34:50.340
What?

3520
02:34:50.340 --> 02:34:52.020
This thing what we just watched.

3521
02:34:52.079 --> 02:34:53.280
The story?

3522
02:34:53.340 --> 02:34:54.840
Yeah, the whole thing.

3523
02:34:55.620 --> 02:34:59.040
Just the story, I think. beautifully.

3524
02:34:59.100 --> 02:35:00.959
I actually quite like this story.

3525
02:35:01.020 --> 02:35:03.420
I didn't as much as I just did.

3526
02:35:03.479 --> 02:35:05.760
I think there's some epis moments that are better than others.

3527
02:35:05.760 --> 02:35:07.079
No, I think it's really fun.

3528
02:35:07.139 --> 02:35:08.340
I don't mind it.

3529
02:35:08.399 --> 02:35:11.819
I think where it weakens, the performance is elevated and vice versa.

3530
02:35:11.879 --> 02:35:15.239
It's, it's, It's a lovely ensemble piece.

3531
02:35:15.299 --> 02:35:16.020
It's done.

3532
02:35:16.079 --> 02:35:21.659
You can you know what's really engaging about this, the amount of adrenaline. everyone's terrified.

3533
02:35:22.680 --> 02:35:24.959
They don't know what's going on.

3534
02:35:25.020 --> 02:35:26.700
The script doesn't make a lot of sense.

3535
02:35:26.760 --> 02:35:27.840
There is no plot.

3536
02:35:27.899 --> 02:35:31.860
It's just a series of exurgencies that's elevating us to nothing.

3537
02:35:31.920 --> 02:35:35.879
Um, and yeah, they're winging it.

3538
02:35:35.879 --> 02:35:37.079
And the, and the fear.

3539
02:35:37.139 --> 02:35:42.299
It's like, you know, a lot of really great performances are born from goodness me, we can't do this twice.

3540
02:35:43.620 --> 02:35:45.000
Right.

3541
02:35:45.059 --> 02:35:47.399
Well, just before we go, there's one more thing left to do.

3542
02:35:47.459 --> 02:35:48.479
Bathrobes.

3543
02:35:48.540 --> 02:35:50.340
We're putting on up and bathrobes.

3544
02:35:50.399 --> 02:35:59.100
Now that's a lead in because what I'd like you all to do now is give me your Patrick Trouton stories that you want to that you want to nominate and I'm going to do an ending for all of them.

3545
02:35:59.159 --> 02:36:00.420
Okay, Webber.

3546
02:36:00.479 --> 02:36:01.620
Webber fear?

3547
02:36:01.680 --> 02:36:08.700
I just think there's no point in doing this because by that time we'll have power off the Daleks.

3548
02:36:08.760 --> 02:36:12.299
Well, and we have to do a Power of the Daleks commentary.

3549
02:36:12.360 --> 02:36:14.340
If nobody else nominates it, I'm going to nominate power.

3550
02:36:14.399 --> 02:36:16.139
Okay, I'm nominating it as well.

3551
02:36:16.260 --> 02:36:17.219
Okay, you're nominating power.

3552
02:36:17.280 --> 02:36:20.219
Toddles, nominate Power of the Tarlix, Tom.

3553
02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:21.239
What's your name?

3554
02:36:21.299 --> 02:36:24.239
Well, no, we're putting in...

3555
02:36:24.299 --> 02:36:25.680
Todd can put in whatever he likes.

3556
02:36:25.739 --> 02:36:26.819
Enemy of the world.

3557
02:36:26.819 --> 02:36:27.899
Enema of the world.

3558
02:36:27.959 --> 02:36:28.860
It's got Australia.

3559
02:36:28.979 --> 02:36:35.040
You think it would be great to have a, like, have a poll where it was like...

3560
02:36:35.040 --> 02:36:40.680
We have to do whatever he said, and then and then 3 is... could work.

3561
02:36:40.739 --> 02:36:41.940
I'm really thinking hard.

3562
02:36:42.000 --> 02:36:43.319
I'm tossing up between 2 stories.

3563
02:36:43.379 --> 02:36:45.479
Okay, what tour are you tossing up between?

3564
02:36:45.540 --> 02:36:46.440
The crotons.

3565
02:36:46.500 --> 02:36:48.239
Ha, which I love.

3566
02:36:48.719 --> 02:36:50.040
Enemy of the world.

3567
02:36:50.100 --> 02:36:52.260
Yeah, both of them.

3568
02:36:52.319 --> 02:36:53.819
I like both of them.

3569
02:36:53.879 --> 02:36:56.879
So Todd, let's say one's yours and one's mine, whichever.

3570
02:36:56.940 --> 02:37:03.840
So the nominees are Power of the Daleks, the Crotons, the Crotons, Web of Fear and Enemy of the World.

3571
02:37:03.899 --> 02:37:06.360
There's no way they're not voting for me in this poll.

3572
02:37:06.420 --> 02:37:07.079
I know.

3573
02:37:07.200 --> 02:37:07.799
Okay.

3574
02:37:07.860 --> 02:37:10.319
So the winner...

3575
02:37:10.319 --> 02:37:11.219
Maximum pal.

3576
02:37:11.280 --> 02:37:13.680
No one can vote for the war games.

3577
02:37:13.739 --> 02:37:16.200
We didn't say world games, is it?

3578
02:37:16.260 --> 02:37:17.040
I should do that.

3579
02:37:17.760 --> 02:37:28.020
So the Patrick Trout and commentary we're going to do as voted on by you, uh, which will go out between seasons 21 and 22.

3580
02:37:28.200 --> 02:37:34.260
So between the twin dilemma and attack of the cybermen is...

3581
02:37:34.319 --> 02:37:36.120
The enemy of the world.

3582
02:37:36.719 --> 02:37:38.639
I didn't vote for that.

3583
02:37:39.899 --> 02:37:43.139
The enemy of the Toxic all the time.

3584
02:37:43.620 --> 02:37:45.840
The war games.

3585
02:37:45.899 --> 02:37:46.799
No.

3586
02:37:46.860 --> 02:37:51.540
This is this is what they do on news quiz when they're announcing elections.

3587
02:37:51.780 --> 02:37:53.940
You know what, pig?

3588
02:37:54.000 --> 02:37:55.079
You know, you know what?

3589
02:37:55.139 --> 02:37:59.399
James, James Selwood, can do the war games by himself.

3590
02:38:00.420 --> 02:38:02.399
That's the tag.

3591
02:38:02.399 --> 02:38:06.180
Until we return with Warriors of the Deep.

3592
02:38:06.239 --> 02:38:09.120
Dear listener, thank you very much for listening and good night.

3593
02:38:09.180 --> 02:38:10.379
Good night.

3594
02:38:10.440 --> 02:38:12.059
See you soon.

3595
02:38:12.120 --> 02:38:16.020
I'm so glad Todd's agreed to do season one Wonder Woman podcast with me.

3596
02:38:16.079 --> 02:38:17.280
This is delightful.

3597
02:38:17.340 --> 02:38:20.819
Bye everyone. me