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Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to the commentary series of

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Flight Through Entirety, the only Doctor Who commentary podcast

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who blurts out their plans in the slightest moment of stress and

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then gets shot by their accomplice.

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I'm Brett.

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I actually know, I'm Susan.

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I'm Barbara.

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I'm Ian.

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I'm a backcombed cardigan in danger of rapey incidences any

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moment.

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And that means it's our 1st commentary.

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I want to be Barbara too.

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It's our 1st commentary.

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Listener's choice in the heart in the era.

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Yeah, who frickin' chose this one?

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The majority of the 60 listeners who voted.

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We know each of you by name.

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We don't actually.

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Twitter doesn't give us any information, so don't worry, Richard

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isn't going to hunt you down.

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If you would like Rich to hunt you down, um, you can find him on

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Twitter at, at, uh, Richard, I think I've said 2 things on the

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entire history of the planet, you know.

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Can I be the Zentai suit guy, you know, the gimp suit guy that has

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a lovely holiday by the seaside and almost melts?

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Could be that guy.

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You thrills Toya Wilcom?

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of precedence in this one, isn't there, Todd?

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We're all together.

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It's like, honestly, the Blunovich limitation effect on your

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podcasty download device must be going off.

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Yes, but Richard, don't touch Todd could be dangerous.

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Oh thanks.

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Now, no one's mentioned my t-shirt.

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Richard is wearing a fantastic t-shirt that says you can't sit

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with us.

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Which wasn't intentional.

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Sorry, James.

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Regina George, 2004.

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Now, we do have our keys of Marinace DVD edition in the Blu-ray

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player.

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Yeah, Todd, you may not realise this, but the start of every

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commentary.

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We took over Brendan.

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Exactly.

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So we can't get started.

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And we are ready on the play all.

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Safe word for this evening.

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Our safe word for this evening is conscience.

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So the next time the next time I say that word, you are to press

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play, dear listener, so please get ready on your auto remote

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control.

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We're about to start the keys of marriage.

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You're actually going to like this one, aren't we?

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Well, I do like it, but we'll see how we feel in 2.5 hours time.

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We'll see how you... hour's time, dear listener.

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Oh my goodness.

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Okay, here we go.

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Are you ready, dear listener?

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conscience.

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And we're off.

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Doctor Who theme.

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So I would like to apologise for this because actually each of us

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was asked to nominate a Doctor Who story that we wanted to offer

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to the listeners as a potential sort of poll candidate.

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And I was the only person stupid enough to nominate a 6 part story

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where nothing very interesting happens.

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And I remember you did ask my permission.

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And I said, of course, it can be a six-parter.

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No one's going to vote for Mariners anyway.

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Yeah, I just remembered.

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Well, I think our listeners were doing it to punish us.

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They've been listening to our episodes and they wanted some way of

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getting back.

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The sea of death.

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That's actually a really beautiful model is graphic.

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I love this model shot.

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It's actually really lovely design.

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Oh, well, it's a model.

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It's a really lovely model.

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It is a model.

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Yep, the zoom is coming.

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It's only...

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Zoom into a painting.

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No, no, it's a monitor.

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Oh, you're right, it is too.

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You can you can just make the out the water.

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I can see the sea monkeys.

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Hooray.

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Oh, any radiation?

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It's Planet of the Giants.

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They're all really tiny.

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I, I, you don't have colour television.

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Oh, that was a bit crabby, wasn't it?

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Well, you know, they could have been taking a bit of a shot at

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ITV.

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Billy's done a lovely bit of backcombing there too, hasn't he?

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There's some really slicked down, isn't he?

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I love that bit where Ian says, is there any radiation?

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The doctor says nothing to speak of.

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And no one says, yeah, well, last time you said that.

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You lied.

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I just love that Jackie's cardigan, all the bombs cardigan looks

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like it's actually going to fit Barbarilla's space helmet because

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as Brendan would say, she's fabulous.

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She is fabulous.

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And I want that jumper.

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Yeah, she looks.

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She really is, isn't she?

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Oh, this is so exciting. pod races.

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Yes.

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Actually, we've just watched 4 bits of matchdick trace across the

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but really for 63 with no budget.

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I think this is beautiful.

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I love it.

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On the making of this, um, Raymond Cucick discusses the problem

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with having, if you like, a budget for a single set of sets, but

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having to come up with 5 different sets of sets.

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Because Terry Nation had seen what they did, yes, with the mutants

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10,000 BC Deadplanet.com and decided, oh, they can do anything

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because typically, as Terry does, what he did what Einstein did

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with the theory of relativity and worked it out on the backs of

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envelopes.

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However, more people know about Einstone than they do about Terry

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Nation.

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And I think that's important to remember.

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He certainly was someone who didn't really have much of an idea

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about what was practical or affordable.

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I think he knew anything about telebiogenesis.

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That being said, he did often cater to the designer by setting

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things in a blank featureless room or a blank featureless

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corridor.

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He did write that an awful, but that's 10 years before or 8 years

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before THX 1138 or Kubrick doing that whole beautiful...

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How can they not see it?

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Malory Archer.

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Actually, that's really raunchy.

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That's a word that young people can look up.

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By the way, the hills are really beautiful, very me now, and can I

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just say a little bit German expression?

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They really are.

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Isn't that lovely?

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I'm very happy that German expressionism is making its way back to

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the podcast.

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Well, in snake dance, some of us assume it ever left.

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I was gonna say something completely different.

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What were you going to say, Todd?

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Is this world?

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They've got this sand in this, we're about to find out this sea of

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asset, right?

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Oh, spoilers.

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Well, I'm stealing Nathan's lines here.

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And then, later on, we're going to be in all these, like, jungle

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of death and all this sort of stuff, right?

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Yeah, it's all on the same planet.

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That's no way to speak of Fiona Walker.

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I mean, it's not like we've got seas of acid.

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Yes we do.

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Yes, we do.

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It's called global warming.

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But we've got, but you know, you got, I love that this is actually

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the most realised world in Doctor Who, possibly of all time.

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And don't we wish she had paddled in it.

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Sorry, go on.

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I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

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It's lovely.

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What a planet.

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But, you know, when you look at all the variation we have, that's

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set, by the way, boys and girls, it's beautiful.

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Yeah, I agree.

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That cubist modernist, it's actually, um...

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It's what Ken Allen would have done if he'd been at the ABC, isn't

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it?

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It's Ducharpe and Brack. fibreglass rocks.

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To sharpen Brock rather than rather than Picasso.

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And Brock was in fact, as was Duchamp, a heavy influence on both

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the Russian constructivist and then the German expressionists.

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And I think everyone, every time we say that, everyone at home

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should have a little drinky boost.

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We certainly are.

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Told was going to say something quite...

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Oh my goodness, isn't she gorgeous?

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We're not looking at Ian.

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It's acid.

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Like we could have had our 1st cast change right here now.

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So some kind of paddle in the orchard.

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What are we saying?

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What?

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Bye, Susan.

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I think we all know how much I celebrate the entity that is Susan

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in her entirety.

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I love Susan on every level.

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I think and I think she's fine in everything she does.

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I know I might be sitting by myself here at the end of the sofa

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but Carol's not the problem.

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I can't say wrong with what she's doing.

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No, no.

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Carol is fine.

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She's just given very, she's given material that is beneath her

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ability.

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Well, she's also not directed but teenagers are annoying.

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Nathan, would you care to come with?

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I've got nothing to say.

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Hello, hello, students.

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If you look at early Star Trek Next Gen, people sort of said, oh

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you know, we could have left for yours, by the way.

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You could have rent her yours and I'm chuckling.

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Billy Fluff.

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Billy Fluff.

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Oh, that's gorgeous. also a little bit kinky.

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Yes.

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Let's lock a person in this and see what happens.

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Especially with the fin.

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I never say no to a Finn.

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What am I doing?

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Hello.

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Hello, darling.

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Hello, darling.

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Nathan is gesturing hypnotically, like Mandrake, the magician.

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Well, we're walking around a lot of pointy things, and I'm

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actually getting a bit excited about Billy's trousers and also the

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fact that they don't ever bother dressing for alien landscapes.

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What has Billy done with his hair?

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It's fabulous.

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Well, Ian is still culturally appropriating cafe.

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He's looking good though.

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I do actually like his sort of he's gorgeous.

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Why she brought her wellies out?

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Because she lost her shoes in the paddling pool. give her yours.

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Oh, well, look.

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Why has nobody noticed?

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Oh, that's right.

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We now know it's actually a little bit djourous.

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We don't actually notice them when they walk past us from a foot

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away, you know.

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But that's the lovely theatrical...

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That's what theatre does.

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Every fricking Shakespeare thing.

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This is much more theatre than it is television.

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Which is one of the reasons why, you know what?

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I'm just, I do this now.

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I've spent the last month trying to get through Resurrection of

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the Daleks and look at this.

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I could watch this every single day.

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Stinky winky.

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Oh, by the way, Brenda, this is where you get to throw in the

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thing about Toya, because some of our gentle listeners might not

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have heard our erudite podcast on the Keys of Mariness.

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Toya.

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Toya Wilcox.

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Do we know the story or does Nathan want to tell the story?

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Toya Wilcox finds the cyberman sexy.

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Yeah, yeah, because...

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I tell it?

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Toya Wilcox, created, was the creator behind the Teletubbies?

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And her inspiration, for the look of them, was her very, very

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earliest memory of this story.

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Oh, right.

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And the gay one.

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Can I say gay?

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The gay one, the purple one who carried a handbag, whom she

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intended to be, the, you know, mixed gender, queer character, was

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based on a board.

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This Ford.

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This very board.

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So I just think a great guy to party with. very disturbing.

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It really is, and that is a beautiful piece of architecture.

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Look, I've heard so demurring for the kids at home and, you know

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we're doing stuff like that right now.

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I believe that was accomplished by an inlay shot, which is an

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early version of colour separation overlay.

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There's no colour, of course, so you don't use colour separation

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overlay.

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Oh, kind of masking effect.

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Sorry, to speak over you.

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Isn't that a good, this is what we do.

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Isn't that a gorgeous reinterpretation of the Dalek corridors, but

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in cubism.

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That is beautiful.

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Now, we're coming up on one of my favourite early educational

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moments of the series.

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Now, we had an educational moment early from Barbara, and because

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it's Barbara, she pulled it off brilliantly, she just said, this

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is a tidal pool.

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So the whole scene must be acid.

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Instead of saying, this is a title pool, and title pools come from

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the scene.

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There's a knife.

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Now, the thing is, I think Carol there, Carol is being very

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cautious.

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I think she's playing it like she's already a bit psychic because

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she expected to be psychic.

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That's the thing.

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She was going to leave next year.

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You can tell.

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She knew it was all going to go nowhere.

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So the acid C is a defence thing.

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It's not that the whole planet has acid scene. just want to keep

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the viewers at bay.

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Oh, it's just around this island. just a conscience.

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It's like a scene smoking area.

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You have to remember I wasn't here.

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No, that's true. when you did this.

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So I actually, you were refusing to listen to it back then.

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Oh, it's more common wise.

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That's what happens if you refuse to listen to the podcast.

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Okay, I have to say this, I've never been a fan of this story, but

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watching this now, the lighting, the subtlety of the direction.

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Please go and watch Dr. Kaligari, the cabinet of Dr. Kaligari, dear

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listener.

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Here we come, educational moments, excitement.

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Educational moments.

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No mortar.

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It must have been built with tremendous accuracy.

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I'm not sure about that.

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Egyptians did it.

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Okay, here. other people as well.

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And Lego works the same way.

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Oh, God.

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Excuse me, I think this is fascinating.

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Oh, yeah, but we...

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And the city of the Excelons is built this way.

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William Russell's delivery bear is appalling.

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Who has the prettiest hair?

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Let's play this drinking game in each scene.

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Do this, man.

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Who has the prettiest hair?

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I think it's up between Billy and Babs and I think Billy might be

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winning.

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Barbara's winning.

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It's not Susan, and Vidalsa soon designed Susan's hair.

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We all know.

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Sorry, we all know that Susan's haircut cost as much as the budget

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of the 1st episode.

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Oh, the fish she goes.

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This is actually Batman.

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Three years earlier.

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Susan.

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And that wagging.

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The ragging paint effect on the walls is beautiful.

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Grandfather.

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Revolving door.

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At least... at least for once you're meant to see a hand.

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Sorry, Richard.

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It's stopping them from walking into the painted little back.

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So this is all one take, one shot to F. only ever been viewed the

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once.

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And sadly, you know, they missed, they missed the camera cut there

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by 5 frames.

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Boom shadow.

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You aren't even going to see this once on a screen, the size of

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what, an iPad?

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Pretty if you're lucky, yeah.

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If you're lucky.

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Considering they had to get extraordinary.

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They had to get 23 minutes of material in the can in 75 minutes.

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Oh, good.

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Are you sure?

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Oh, sorry.

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And also, most of you listeners are too young to be watching

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this.

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This is really... give it 4 or 5 years of hormonal induction.

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You kids are going to get really excited watching this.

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You know what?

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I'm just talking to my fellow podcasters.

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I 1st came to this story when I was 12.

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Yes.

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A friend of mine had a big Doctor Who collection.

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Oh, that is really by the social scary, depending on where you

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are.

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Oh, no, that's an iconic shot though.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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And suddenly we're Mel Brooks.

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Oh Oh, and oh.

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Now, it's very important.

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Unfortunately, it's Archer, isn't it?

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It's very important, Arbitan, that you don't say anything here

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that might alert her to the fact that you're not going to kill

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her.

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But then again, he doesn't know that yet.

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He also doesn't know what she's up to.

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She might be part of the hoard incursion.

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So, Brendan, you came to this story when you were 12.

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Yeah, yeah, a very good friend of mine, had contacts in the UK and

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so gave me like an 8th generation copy of this.

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Oh, that's how we all discovered these things.

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I didn't see it in decent quality until I got the DVD.

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So my memory of this story is that Barbara is currently sitting in

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a white void. is no detail. entirely.

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That's right.

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That's beautiful.

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Scream along with Barbara.

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I just love that Ian's wearing his piggy gym gems.

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Also, that's hot.

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And kinky.

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This is the British disgust, invented kink long before the Germans

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well, the British are just a German racing.

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Pretty screens.

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I'll be talking about the sets for the rest of the time.

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I told what we're talking about.

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There are any number of sets actually here this in this story

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aren't they?

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I mean, we We're all busting to say something.

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We'll save the budget out.

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But I didn't mean it's never been done before, like to have this

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sort of action adventure.

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Yeah, this week out.

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Like, you know, like a movie, really.

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Actually, that's true.

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What BBC show had experimented at this level, at this level of

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expectation of production.

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Well, you know, I mean, there is this thing and it's kind of a bit

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of a commonplace where we, you know, the show gets packaged up and

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we buy it on DVD and it's a certain number of episodes.

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But, you know, this series isn't that.

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There's no on-screen keys.

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Yeah, we don't know when it's going to end.

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Our idea that it's a six-part story is like something that we

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impose on it later.

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A bit of wrestling.

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Oh, look at the lighting.

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How do they get lighting?

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This subtle and this beautiful in one go.

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These boys really know, and I'm say boys because there weren't

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many women, but that, oh, also, okay, I'm going to get really doll

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but there, um, Tom Bass was um, a world-renowned sculptor who

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worked in Sydney and my mother used to float with him and um, that

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is so doable.

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And he's too...

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But that wall. is exactly like Tom Bass's sculptures.

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There's some really beautiful set.

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This is Cusick, isn't it?

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This is Q. I think he's one of the greatest people to work on TV.

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And I think he's better than Ridley Scott.

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And my friends have just been working on alien covenant.

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Did I tell you, I've stomped around the sets of the navigator

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thing which is 40 feet high.

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It's not as good as Roman Cucick.

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It actually does look like the detailing of a sort of office from

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the 1960s that my father might.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It is really true.

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If you're that keen and truly tragic and want to go to York Street

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behind the QVB in Sydney, Newton's Pharmacy, look it up online.

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There is a beautiful piece of sculpture that's still left. 2 walls

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are exactly, and I would swear to whatever god you worship, that

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based on this wall here, you can go and touch and feel and

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pretentious fallback. throw yourself backwards.

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There are 2 bars right nearby.

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Throw yourself backwards.

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Yes, there are 2 sculptural clay walls that are exactly like

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that.

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Oh, sliding doors.

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And there are sort of rotating panels just next to them and you

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can fall in hilariously and go, ah, and this...

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We should just call this the minutiae podcast.

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It's a dodecahedron.

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It was the Dodecahedron all the time.

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Are the board are the board native to this planet?

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Like are there 2 different species?

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No, they're the alien Vord Tods.

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Pay attention.

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Well, Yartik was leader.

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He was leader of the alien board.

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Surely they're alien.

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But alien can also mean as we use alien from another country.

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So you don't think it means from a different planet other than

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Marinace?

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I think you think it's Brexit.

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The thing is...

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The way Arbiton describes them.

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It sounds like they are interior rebels, if you like.

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They've rebelled against the conscience because the conscience

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only influences mariners.

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So if the vaud weren't on mariners, why would they be affected by

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the conscience?

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But then later on, in spoiler alert, poor old George Caluras here

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is going to cop it pretty sort of seriously.

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And then Yardec alien, leader of the alien board.

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He's going to put his frock on.

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But Yanitech doesn't take his hat off, does he?

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So, that's true.

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So, Sarcotic?

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There's some great yachtic bum action, right?

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He looks quite poorly.

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He's not long for this world, I don't think.

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You know, I love that George Caluras is dressed like a Greek

491
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Orthodox drag queen in a B. Arthur bathrobe and Ben Herr

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necklace.

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It's kind of working for me.

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Have we mentioned that Calurus was part of Awesome Wells Mercury

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Theatre?

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and was a compatriot with both Patrick Magoon, Agnes Smallhead.

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And yes, Andora from Bewitched.

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And, um...

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So we like 3 degrees of separation away from Agnes Moorhead just

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watching this. worship that one.

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I do too.

502
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When I was 6 years old, I made the neighbourhood boys play

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bewitched and I always got to be Endora much like this podcast.

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Do you know?

505
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I actually did.

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They don't talk to me to this day. were you?

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What a beautiful relationship we could forge on that very basis

508
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right now.

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I'll just hover on the on the curtain rail and tell you what.

510
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I might have been married. 2nd Darren.

511
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Yeah, I'd be the 1st Darren. think.

512
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I like both Darren.

513
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There's a podcast.

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What do I feel about this set?

515
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Sorry, I want to go back to this too.

516
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Yeah, sure.

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This set is beautiful.

518
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The Dodecahedron being the 5th platonic solid is a gorgeous

519
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creation and I think looks beautiful in black and white.

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And sadly, because the budget was so stretched, there are so few

521
00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:23.940
set photos.

522
00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.980
They couldn't, they could hardly afford.

523
00:20:26.099 --> 00:20:28.079
Where was that man person?

524
00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:28.859
What's his name?

525
00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:29.460
John Curris?

526
00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:30.480
John Kura?

527
00:20:30.539 --> 00:20:31.319
John Kira.

528
00:20:31.380 --> 00:20:33.839
Well, he got tele snaps, but he didn't get sick photos.

529
00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:34.440
Yeah.

530
00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:36.599
We do actually have the video.

531
00:20:36.660 --> 00:20:37.859
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

532
00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:39.299
I'm not quite sure where Brendan's coming from.

533
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:40.019
Is he still in the room?

534
00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:41.279
I'm not sure where Brendan's coming from.

535
00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:41.819
Oh, no, no.

536
00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:43.920
I'm just saying you know, we were talking about how beautiful this

537
00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:44.519
set was.

538
00:20:44.579 --> 00:20:48.059
You know, imagine if we had a picture of the set with no one on

539
00:20:48.059 --> 00:20:48.180
there.

540
00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.759
I know it sounds like we're trying to make you listen to this

541
00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:52.619
podcast, but honestly...

542
00:20:52.740 --> 00:20:53.519
I actually feel it.

543
00:20:53.579 --> 00:20:54.720
Yeah, but you could turn off at any time.

544
00:20:54.779 --> 00:20:57.779
I just love the way I just love the way that, you know, we're not

545
00:20:57.779 --> 00:20:58.200
going to help you.

546
00:20:58.259 --> 00:20:58.920
We're going for it.

547
00:20:58.980 --> 00:20:59.700
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

548
00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:02.339
No, no, but he's an evil fascist.

549
00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:03.059
I know that, man.

550
00:21:03.059 --> 00:21:04.259
Which one?

551
00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.059
Todd, just because he lives over the bridge.

552
00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:09.420
Remember, as I said on...

553
00:21:09.420 --> 00:21:10.559
What's happening?

554
00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:13.079
This is the sound of me rubbing Todd.

555
00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:17.220
Remember, as I said on Doctor in 10 seconds and therefore it must

556
00:21:17.220 --> 00:21:20.940
be true, this is a story about the thought police versus rubber

557
00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:21.660
fetishists.

558
00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.279
Oh, hello.

559
00:21:23.339 --> 00:21:24.480
Could I have some of that wine?

560
00:21:24.539 --> 00:21:27.480
Oh, I love the miming.

561
00:21:27.539 --> 00:21:28.079
I love this.

562
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.480
Oh, thank you for cleaning us up.

563
00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:31.859
Invisible barrier.

564
00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.799
I think I think it's terrible.

565
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.160
Oh, this is terrible.

566
00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.440
Here goes Carol Anne stepping through the barrier.

567
00:21:40.500 --> 00:21:42.240
Yes, it's Marcel.

568
00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:43.319
It's such a pity.

569
00:21:43.380 --> 00:21:45.660
It's not a barrier like in, what's that story?

570
00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.059
The ponds instead.

571
00:21:48.059 --> 00:21:49.559
She could have blowed up.

572
00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:52.259
There she is stepping right inside the barrier.

573
00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:54.000
At this point, is Billy not your favourite doctor?

574
00:21:54.059 --> 00:21:54.720
Just look at him.

575
00:21:54.779 --> 00:21:56.940
Well, at this point...

576
00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.319
Yes, we can do this.

577
00:21:58.380 --> 00:21:59.099
Yes, yes, always.

578
00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:00.059
I'll stop it, you two.

579
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:01.500
But he's yes, see?

580
00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:02.519
Really?

581
00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:05.519
I'm sorry, you'll force me...

582
00:22:05.579 --> 00:22:06.599
It's really theatrical.

583
00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:07.259
That's the thing.

584
00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:12.240
And it's all my, and it is a little bit panto, but, but, there's

585
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:13.380
nothing like it on television.

586
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:14.759
No, absolutely not.

587
00:22:14.819 --> 00:22:15.359
Absolutely not.

588
00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:16.140
Look at him.

589
00:22:16.140 --> 00:22:16.920
He's extraordinary.

590
00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:18.240
Yeah, eye acting.

591
00:22:18.299 --> 00:22:19.680
I acting...

592
00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.700
Thumb acting.

593
00:22:20.700 --> 00:22:21.420
Thumb acting.

594
00:22:21.420 --> 00:22:22.019
Thumb acting.

595
00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:23.579
But, you know, Professor Quatermass.

596
00:22:23.579 --> 00:22:24.539
Good hair, Barbara.

597
00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:28.019
Professor Quatermass doesn't have this range of light and dark.

598
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:28.920
Hasn't got ranged.

599
00:22:28.980 --> 00:22:29.640
Hasn't got the range.

600
00:22:29.700 --> 00:22:32.279
Also, even Ian's got back combing.

601
00:22:32.339 --> 00:22:35.700
Oh, well, yes, you're going to have to go now.

602
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:36.779
Oh, that's beautiful.

603
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:38.400
Now, there's there's a great thing.

604
00:22:38.460 --> 00:22:42.960
And I think you can still get it online..

605
00:22:43.019 --> 00:22:44.099
I'm impressed.

606
00:22:44.339 --> 00:22:47.460
Actually, Barbara is Billy, Billy is Barbara.

607
00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:49.200
That is brilliant.

608
00:22:49.259 --> 00:22:53.640
Well, remember, way back in, way back in the Daleks, when it's Ian

609
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:56.940
saying to, it's Ian saying we have to give them their own

610
00:22:56.940 --> 00:22:59.519
incentive to fight, it's the Dr. and Barbara saying, no, we can

611
00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:01.680
just use them to get the fluid link, bugger them.

612
00:23:01.740 --> 00:23:03.420
Bugger what the files want.

613
00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:03.900
We don't care.

614
00:23:04.019 --> 00:23:05.460
We just... those styles.

615
00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.500
Not the 1st person to sit and voice such a sentiment.

616
00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:08.460
Herm erotic.

617
00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:13.019
Now, there's a there's a rather wonderful download you can get

618
00:23:13.019 --> 00:23:13.980
somewhere online.

619
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.740
We won't link to it because that would involve listening back to

620
00:23:16.740 --> 00:23:16.980
this.

621
00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:21.480
But it's called the it's called the Wonderful Book 1964.

622
00:23:21.660 --> 00:23:22.799
Oh, we love that.

623
00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:26.039
You may remember that Clayton Hickman did the brilliant books of

624
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:26.519
Doctor Who.

625
00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:28.440
This is the people behind...

626
00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:29.400
Yeah, the bachelor.

627
00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:30.660
We talked about them before, I think.

628
00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.059
Yeah, That was going to pass fly.

629
00:23:33.180 --> 00:23:35.759
But this is...

630
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:37.619
Help me, listeners. don't know. what's going on.

631
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:39.240
Really cute, fake annual.

632
00:23:39.299 --> 00:23:39.960
There goes Barbara.

633
00:23:40.019 --> 00:23:41.099
Oh, she's gone.

634
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.660
It's a fake animal.

635
00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:46.319
It's a fake annual based around the 1st year of Doctor Who and it

636
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:48.059
has that map of marinace.

637
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.880
They've they've screen captained...

638
00:23:50.940 --> 00:23:54.720
They've redesigned it and it's a holiday brochure. come to visit

639
00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.700
Meredith. fantastic.

640
00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:02.700
Done by mainly the person who does the wonderful velvet jacket DVD

641
00:24:02.700 --> 00:24:03.240
covers website.

642
00:24:03.299 --> 00:24:04.740
There they go. split screen.

643
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.859
Oh, for the sake of all my people call.

644
00:24:08.099 --> 00:24:09.480
He means Greece. very modern actually.

645
00:24:09.539 --> 00:24:12.059
No, no, it's quite a political take.

646
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:15.480
He means for the sake of controlling all of my people with a giant

647
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.099
dodeckahedron computer.

648
00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.319
I'm so sorry old man.

649
00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:20.400
No, I want him to die.

650
00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:24.299
Todd, what do you think about the character of Arberton?

651
00:24:24.299 --> 00:24:27.539
Because there's some really interesting...

652
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:29.519
There's...

653
00:24:29.579 --> 00:24:33.779
There's some really interesting ethical, let alone moral questions

654
00:24:33.779 --> 00:24:37.920
on whether Arbiton actually has the right to be doing what he's

655
00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:39.720
doing right now personally.

656
00:24:40.259 --> 00:24:43.799
I'm sorry, I think that's the moral quantity.

657
00:24:43.859 --> 00:24:46.799
Solve dry blood may have been sorry.

658
00:24:46.859 --> 00:24:48.299
That sums up, I'll think of it.

659
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.339
For the 1st, oh, that wall.

660
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.259
Isn't that Serverland's office?

661
00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:53.099
No, no, it is.

662
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.240
It's not that yet.

663
00:24:54.299 --> 00:24:55.619
It's an Edrick's bedroom.

664
00:24:57.059 --> 00:24:59.460
Those are equilateral triangles.

665
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:00.900
Uncle Hendrix's bedroom, by the way.

666
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.420
But for the 1st time in my life at this age, and understanding

667
00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:09.180
what's happening in the world and what's happened with Brexit

668
00:25:09.180 --> 00:25:12.000
what's happening with most voters voting against the major parties

669
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.160
and actually on the side of the board.

670
00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:15.480
Me too.

671
00:25:15.539 --> 00:25:16.200
Yeah, me too.

672
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:21.240
Why is state control of people's sensibilities an okay thing?

673
00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:24.180
And at which point are we going to get chips implanted now?

674
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.059
Because we're Terry Nation and we're kind of crypto fascist.

675
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.279
We're old and crypto fascists.

676
00:25:29.339 --> 00:25:32.579
Yeah, and writing for more common wise.

677
00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:34.559
He was a comedy writer, as you know.

678
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.180
Well, you do Hancock and stuff?

679
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.220
He did. you phrasing?

680
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.980
I don't think we're still doing phrasing.

681
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:42.480
Who did MacGyver?

682
00:25:42.539 --> 00:25:43.079
that a comedy?

683
00:25:43.140 --> 00:25:45.180
Oh my goodness, he did too.

684
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:46.440
I can just see mullets.

685
00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:48.180
It's kind of like...

686
00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:49.920
Mullets...

687
00:25:50.460 --> 00:25:53.400
Actually, Peter Davidson's character was entirely based on

688
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:54.299
MacGyver.

689
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.819
The doctor, including the hairstyle.

690
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.640
And 3 years early, which was a massive achievement.

691
00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:00.839
Well, Doctor Who theme.

692
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:02.759
I'm sorry, but now.

693
00:26:02.819 --> 00:26:03.839
Sphincter.

694
00:26:03.900 --> 00:26:04.980
I have to say, there you go.

695
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:05.759
It's spreading.

696
00:26:05.819 --> 00:26:06.420
Really, it is.

697
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.480
We've all, we've all, all my friends are in sitrus at the moment

698
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.440
for bare week and there's 15,000 large, hairy, homosexual men

699
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:14.819
gathered in one place.

700
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:15.480
It's still okay.

701
00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:16.799
I still don't haven't.

702
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:17.099
Where are they?

703
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.440
explicit. in situres, which is in Spain.

704
00:26:19.500 --> 00:26:21.299
We're the men, Nina and the painter.

705
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:22.619
I was just going to say, Richard.

706
00:26:22.619 --> 00:26:27.240
Look, I'm going back to Mariners, which I, as I knew it as a kid

707
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:28.680
the keys are Marinas.

708
00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:29.940
I'm really good at reading.

709
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.099
D's Doctor Who. very cameras.

710
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.079
It's keys of marina certis.

711
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.220
Well, the thing is, Todd, it kind of explains why Pertwi is your

712
00:26:38.220 --> 00:26:40.920
favourite doctor because he's always mispronouncing things.

713
00:26:40.980 --> 00:26:43.859
Yeah, he gets...

714
00:26:43.859 --> 00:26:45.839
I thought that was your favourite doctor?

715
00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:46.619
Get real?

716
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:47.700
Who's your favourite doctor then?

717
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.460
I think we can't have to find out next year. right, okay.

718
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.400
We're going to have a terrific series of podcasts.

719
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.559
Two listeners.

720
00:26:55.619 --> 00:26:57.599
It'll be Nathan versus me.

721
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.680
Todd and I, oh, isn't that beautiful?

722
00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:03.359
It's the sale of the centuries.

723
00:27:03.660 --> 00:27:08.279
Todd and I have been discussing Collins, Ouvre, an era, and it

724
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:10.559
turns out we're rather similar in our opinions.

725
00:27:10.619 --> 00:27:13.619
This will be very interesting to listen to later on.

726
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.420
Yep, and you're going to find out.

727
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:16.500
Todd will be quoting me.

728
00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:17.759
I'll be quoting Todd.

729
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.279
Well, well, well.

730
00:27:20.339 --> 00:27:21.779
This is gorgeous.

731
00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:24.180
Oh, well, the Romans again, goody.

732
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.559
Where's Derek Francis?

733
00:27:25.619 --> 00:27:26.700
Look at Barbara.

734
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:28.980
Oh, Barbara's hair's looking even better actually in his the

735
00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:29.160
world.

736
00:27:29.220 --> 00:27:30.240
How?

737
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:31.380
Only a year early.

738
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.960
I'm sorry, I'm going to point out the 1st plot discrepancy in this

739
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:34.200
story.

740
00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:37.019
Barbara arrived about a minute before them.

741
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:37.859
Hello?

742
00:27:37.859 --> 00:27:38.819
She's a new frock.

743
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:39.839
Time differential.

744
00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:41.220
Time differential.

745
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.079
Oh.

746
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:43.920
You're making them up.

747
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:49.559
It's just an illusion caused by whatever's causing everything to

748
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:50.759
look...

749
00:27:50.819 --> 00:27:51.299
Okay, yeah fine.

750
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.220
We don't know. isn't she in rags?

751
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.140
I mean, is that not that's diagenic?

752
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.039
I'm not just...

753
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:59.279
Who's to say they don't have a special machine that she just steps

754
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:00.779
into and then he goes zapping.

755
00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:02.039
Yeah, like on.

756
00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:03.480
Well, that's how the macro terror.

757
00:28:03.539 --> 00:28:05.400
That was the bottom...

758
00:28:05.460 --> 00:28:06.299
Oh, bit of comedy here.

759
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:12.480
There's there's Carl and Ford pretending to be enjoyable.

760
00:28:12.539 --> 00:28:14.160
Oh, there's one of those reaping angels at the back.

761
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.440
It's going to come to life.

762
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:17.460
That's nowhere to speak of Billy.

763
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.480
See, unfortunately, what we're missing in between this story and

764
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:26.700
the edge of destruction is Marco Polo, where they spend 3 or 4

765
00:28:26.700 --> 00:28:29.759
months travelling together, which is why they're so warm here

766
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:30.839
after being so fractious.

767
00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:35.400
So do you think that they would ever, ever, in a 1000000 years

768
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.640
they wouldn't consider animating that as well?

769
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.500
Well, we've just had.

770
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.140
As we record, we've just had the announcement this week, dear

771
00:28:43.140 --> 00:28:46.259
listener, of the Power of the Daleks animation, so nothing is

772
00:28:46.259 --> 00:28:50.039
impossible, but I would say we would get Dalek, Cybermen, Ice

773
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:50.579
Warrior.

774
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.160
Well, actually, the Ice Warriors have been animated yeti stories

775
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:54.539
before we get historical.

776
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:58.559
I think we'll even get the wonderful massacre or celestial toy

777
00:28:58.559 --> 00:28:59.759
maker to wonderful classics.

778
00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:02.400
I don't think we would get I don't think it would get the massacre

779
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:03.240
before we would get...

780
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.440
Chickens asked.

781
00:29:04.500 --> 00:29:07.200
As everybody, has everyone noticed that?

782
00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:11.279
All the girls, all the handmaidens look like Carol from Monty

783
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:11.880
Python.

784
00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:14.819
They probably are all Carol from Monty Python.

785
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.460
Barbara was really born for this role.

786
00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:22.740
I love the fact that they're eating all these all these truffles

787
00:29:22.740 --> 00:29:23.400
and all this food.

788
00:29:23.460 --> 00:29:24.839
I can't remember.

789
00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:28.680
Do we actually get to see like it's rotting scraps they're

790
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:29.039
eating?

791
00:29:29.099 --> 00:29:30.900
They're eating truffles?

792
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.000
No, it tastes like rat poo, just like Billy's.

793
00:29:33.059 --> 00:29:33.599
Well, I reckon that.

794
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.180
No, my partner is obsessed with truffles.

795
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:37.079
I love them.

796
00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:39.359
I actually use truffle oil to anoint myself.

797
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.880
I'm lining up for exercise classes for 3 hours.

798
00:29:41.940 --> 00:29:42.539
As well.

799
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:43.740
But the truffles thing.

800
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.140
The last time he was back in Sydney.

801
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:50.880
He bought a truffle the size of a grapefruit for...

802
00:29:50.940 --> 00:29:55.380
Oh, you know, half a $1000000 or something for a Lego set.

803
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.900
It smells like feet.

804
00:29:58.259 --> 00:30:00.599
What's Brendan?

805
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.480
Todd, Todd, if you would like to repeat that.

806
00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:05.220
Todd, please, over to you.

807
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.980
I just said, speaking of fruit and looking for...

808
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.099
Also, Ian's redone his hit.

809
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.480
Yeah, there's there's Actually, that's the biggest cornucopia of

810
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.299
just stuff another grapefruit in it that we've ever seen.

811
00:30:18.420 --> 00:30:21.900
Yeah, there's that on the show and here's my roll of wallpaper.

812
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.359
There's 2 shots in this episode where the film is damaged and

813
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:25.680
they've had to digitally replace things.

814
00:30:25.740 --> 00:30:27.059
Ian's head was one example.

815
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:28.559
That looked terrible.

816
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.059
And what about Altos's pants?

817
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.400
They were...

818
00:30:32.460 --> 00:30:34.799
So they weren't able to recreate them digitally.

819
00:30:34.859 --> 00:30:35.759
No.

820
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.319
That's with the neck thing.

821
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:38.579
Oh my goodness.

822
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:39.960
Also gay.

823
00:30:40.500 --> 00:30:42.180
Gay.

824
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.839
Now this, of course, is Robin Phillips, who was in an episode of

825
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.759
The Avengers. as Billy Harnold.

826
00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:49.740
That's that's Marlon Dietrich.

827
00:30:49.740 --> 00:30:51.420
Oh, this one on the left.

828
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:52.319
Yes, that's right.

829
00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:54.480
Why is she wearing a chandelier, what?

830
00:30:54.539 --> 00:30:56.940
Well, he's he's just wearing speedos underneath.

831
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:58.859
And the 1st season Star Trek.

832
00:30:58.980 --> 00:30:59.700
Next Gem.

833
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:00.660
Little known fact.

834
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.119
He was he was campaigning to be prime minister of Australia at

835
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:03.359
this point.

836
00:31:03.420 --> 00:31:04.559
Who, this person?

837
00:31:04.619 --> 00:31:04.920
Yes.

838
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:06.779
Who was he, really?

839
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:07.799
No, no, no.

840
00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:08.460
Robin Phillips.

841
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:09.180
He was an actor.

842
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:14.519
His other genre thing people may recognise is a sense of history

843
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.480
from season 4 of the Avengers, which also featured Jackie

844
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.200
Jacqueline Pierce in a very early role with a few lines of

845
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:22.680
dialogue.

846
00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:25.380
I love it when you guys talk Avengers.

847
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.779
So does Stephen Berzanovsky.

848
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:29.759
Avengers is still my favourite thing of all time.

849
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.039
When are we doing an Avengers podcast?

850
00:31:32.099 --> 00:31:35.039
Well, remember, of course, we are contractually obliged in each

851
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.720
podcast to mention the Avengers, Stephen Busanovsky and Philip

852
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:40.319
Sandefer.

853
00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:42.000
So we've just got one more to go.

854
00:31:42.059 --> 00:31:44.880
We did, we did semi-quote Santa for earlier.

855
00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:45.599
Good, good.

856
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.700
I'm going crazy on...

857
00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:49.259
Auntie Nathan. anyways, yeah.

858
00:31:49.619 --> 00:31:52.019
Oh, it's so beautiful.

859
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.380
Can everything, if I was emperor of the universe.

860
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.839
If I was magic chan, the 1st thing I'd say is everything needs to

861
00:31:57.839 --> 00:31:59.160
be made in black and white again.

862
00:31:59.220 --> 00:31:59.759
Yeah.

863
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.259
Well, do you remember our crazy plan after the adventures of an

864
00:32:04.259 --> 00:32:05.519
adventure in Spain and time?

865
00:32:05.579 --> 00:32:06.599
Time in Spain?

866
00:32:06.660 --> 00:32:07.259
was it called?

867
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:08.279
Space and time.

868
00:32:08.339 --> 00:32:09.180
Time I thing.

869
00:32:10.019 --> 00:32:11.640
Our thing.

870
00:32:11.700 --> 00:32:13.740
Instead of shooting the next season of...

871
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.119
Dear listener, I still want this to happen.

872
00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:17.220
Chris Chibner, are you listening?

873
00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:17.759
stunning.

874
00:32:17.819 --> 00:32:18.180
Yeah.

875
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:19.319
She's beautiful.

876
00:32:19.380 --> 00:32:22.200
So what we do, instead of creating a new season of Doctor Who with

877
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:22.799
Matt Smith.

878
00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:24.779
We get David Bradley back as the doctor.

879
00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:28.859
And then with Barbara Ian and Susan, the recreated set, all

880
00:32:28.859 --> 00:32:31.019
shooting in black and white and do a series of stories.

881
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.900
Yeah, a series of remakes, you know, do Marvel.

882
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:34.740
No, no, no, no.

883
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:35.279
New things.

884
00:32:35.339 --> 00:32:37.019
Oh, new things. in the style.

885
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:37.920
In the style of.

886
00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:40.859
So I'm happy with of, you know, whatever.

887
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.519
I think it would have been fun to bring in new monsters and some

888
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:45.359
old ones as well.

889
00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:49.680
Play around with 2nd return to the Web Planet or 1st return, but I

890
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.940
wanted 490 minute stories with the Adventures in Spain and Time

891
00:32:53.940 --> 00:32:59.039
cast using modern... but shooting.

892
00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:00.779
I think it would have rated brilliantly.

893
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.599
I also would have given Audi.

894
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.160
I would have watched.

895
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.500
Yeah, and I would have given Moffat a chance to actually think

896
00:33:07.500 --> 00:33:08.339
about what he was doing.

897
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.339
Although I've got to say, just having watched a little bit of

898
00:33:11.339 --> 00:33:13.799
Capaldi's 1st season, I love...

899
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:14.160
Oh.

900
00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:18.660
Oh, Todd, this is actually you and I as if we were acting.

901
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.059
Actually, I've seen Todd on stage.

902
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:21.720
It is Todd.

903
00:33:21.779 --> 00:33:22.740
This woman?

904
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:23.579
Yeah, darling.

905
00:33:23.700 --> 00:33:25.440
I really don't like her.

906
00:33:25.500 --> 00:33:26.519
Why?

907
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:26.759
Really?

908
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.880
Isn't she, isn't she, isn't she the daughter?

909
00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:31.140
isn't she?

910
00:33:31.140 --> 00:33:32.099
Yeah, Sabina.

911
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:32.940
Sabina?

912
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.099
Yeah, Sabitha.

913
00:33:35.819 --> 00:33:39.839
This is where the whole thing gets Scantiwegian's Ingmar Bergman.

914
00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:45.539
This is certain seal acting. that's true Oh, this is fantastic.

915
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:46.740
We missed design.

916
00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:47.819
He's putting a truffle on their heads.

917
00:33:47.940 --> 00:33:49.440
We missed our dogs on the world earlier.

918
00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:52.319
A word on the truffles.

919
00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:56.640
Do we think they're eating fungal truffles or chocolate truffles?

920
00:33:56.700 --> 00:33:58.019
Yeah, no fungal truffles.

921
00:33:58.079 --> 00:33:58.380
Really?

922
00:33:58.380 --> 00:33:59.579
Chocolate truffles aren't real.

923
00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:01.200
No, they're not real chocolate thing.

924
00:34:01.259 --> 00:34:03.599
Actually, they're copper lights on their heads.

925
00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:06.420
We have those in Australia.

926
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:07.500
We do.

927
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:08.699
I dated one.

928
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:09.059
God.

929
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.760
No, I really like what happens here.

930
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:12.960
Sorry, Sam.

931
00:34:13.019 --> 00:34:18.059
Jackie and Barbara and how they, all this sort of...

932
00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:19.739
Oh, my freaking hair.

933
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:20.820
Ow.

934
00:34:20.820 --> 00:34:22.619
Yeah, no, I thought it was really good at the time.

935
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:23.639
That really hurt.

936
00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:30.300
But it is, it's like technically actually really terribly good.

937
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.119
The thing where they, you know, you're cutting between different

938
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.300
points of view, even though we can generally afford one set.

939
00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:37.559
Yeah, yeah.

940
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.659
And we're getting, you know, like scary, horrific. ancient Rome.

941
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.360
Would any of this worked if Jacqulyn Hill wasn't in it?

942
00:34:45.420 --> 00:34:47.159
No, nothing would have.

943
00:34:47.219 --> 00:34:52.019
That's why I think the show went to went to hell after the chase.

944
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.119
I don't know what's going on here, listeners.

945
00:34:54.179 --> 00:34:57.179
I haven't done enough of these. everybody's just slightly insane

946
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:00.900
are actually rubbing Todd for lock.

947
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:02.519
Well, I am.

948
00:35:02.579 --> 00:35:03.780
And let me recommend it.

949
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.019
Now, this bit we've got coming up from...

950
00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:10.320
This bit we got coming up from Barbara's point of view was, of

951
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.039
course, pre-filmed.

952
00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:12.539
Oh, is that how they do it?

953
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:13.139
Yeah.

954
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.000
And they sort of, they sort of cut it down.

955
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:15.300
Why?

956
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.820
Barbara's point of view sees the room as it really is.

957
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.300
Whereas this point of view sees the rumours nice and fancy.

958
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.639
Dear listener, you love this crap.

959
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.659
Toby Haydoke.

960
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.559
Don't.

961
00:35:31.619 --> 00:35:33.179
Thank you.

962
00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:35.280
That's what I missed.

963
00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:38.820
The world big.

964
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.980
She was the Britney Spears all the time.

965
00:35:41.099 --> 00:35:41.880
And you know what?

966
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.800
I would, in that Carrier tits.

967
00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:47.460
In that David Bradley scenario, I would love to see Billy versus

968
00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:48.539
the Weeping Angels.

969
00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:50.699
Totes.

970
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.480
Actually, there's a fun thought while we're watching Barbara

971
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.420
undulate on the sofa bed of reasonable comfort.

972
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.639
Who would you combine?

973
00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:04.559
Traditional monsters with any doctors.

974
00:36:04.619 --> 00:36:06.719
Who would you, or any monster with any doctor?

975
00:36:06.780 --> 00:36:07.260
Who do you want to see?

976
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.619
I would like to see, you know, the David Bradley, Barbara Ian and

977
00:36:10.619 --> 00:36:14.820
Susan in, say, Resurrection of the Daleks.

978
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:15.659
Wouldn't that be fun?

979
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.940
No, like everyone, everyone was being like brutally killed with

980
00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:21.599
guns.

981
00:36:21.780 --> 00:36:24.480
I think that would be re entertaining.

982
00:36:24.539 --> 00:36:27.179
Dear listener, Nathan's being very naughty.

983
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:28.199
Poisonous gas.

984
00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:32.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, where like people's eye sockets were being...

985
00:36:32.820 --> 00:36:35.039
I should mention to Brendan and the dear listener that I'm stuck

986
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:36.840
trying to do the podcast.

987
00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:37.920
That old woman in the background.

988
00:36:37.980 --> 00:36:42.360
That's Ian I haven't been able to get to the Resurrection of the

989
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.059
Daleks and I've been trying to watch it for a month. can't watch

990
00:36:45.059 --> 00:36:45.300
it.

991
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:45.780
Go on.

992
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.659
I was just going to say, it's Eric Seywood is that old woman in

993
00:36:48.659 --> 00:36:49.079
the back.

994
00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:52.380
Tush.

995
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.000
Yes, I agree.

996
00:36:54.059 --> 00:36:57.900
Billy and the Weeping Angels would be amazing, Pat, and something

997
00:36:57.900 --> 00:37:00.239
entirely different from what Pat has ever noticed.

998
00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:03.900
Well, you know, something in a rubber costume.

999
00:37:03.900 --> 00:37:06.900
Well, no, in that, in that, the Siberians from Warriors of the D

1000
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:08.219
No, something different for sure.

1001
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.320
No, I, yeah, Pat and the Happiness Patrol.

1002
00:37:10.380 --> 00:37:13.679
I was going to suggest Pat versus the Midnight entity.

1003
00:37:13.739 --> 00:37:15.179
Yes, thank you.

1004
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.579
Because it would have made him act even more.

1005
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:18.179
Yes, I agree.

1006
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:19.860
I like old doctors and new monsters.

1007
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:20.639
Let's have a look.

1008
00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:23.280
Okay, so Pat and the Midnight entity is genius.

1009
00:37:23.340 --> 00:37:24.480
Pert we?

1010
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.500
Oh, you know, some old crap.

1011
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:29.460
Whatever.

1012
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:33.179
Well, we try to reboot here, so the absorbel off.

1013
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.099
The scribble monster from Fear Hurt.

1014
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.380
I think it'll be pertly in the cubes with unit.

1015
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:41.099
Oh, yeah.

1016
00:37:41.099 --> 00:37:42.300
Oh, that would be genius.

1017
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:44.039
Can you imagine trying to do?

1018
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:45.000
Oh that would be fantastic.

1019
00:37:45.059 --> 00:37:47.280
Because we have to live with Amy and Rory.

1020
00:37:47.340 --> 00:37:50.699
Tom and a woman with a...

1021
00:37:50.699 --> 00:37:51.659
If I may interrupt for a moment.

1022
00:37:51.659 --> 00:37:52.980
That is just...

1023
00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:56.099
We're coming up on another digitally replaced shot.

1024
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:57.599
Look at Altos as he moves forward here.

1025
00:37:58.619 --> 00:38:00.239
That's weird.

1026
00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:03.599
Yeah, there's just a massively damaged section of film there.

1027
00:38:03.659 --> 00:38:05.579
However, he's kind of pretty.

1028
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.519
No, in a good way, just creepy way.

1029
00:38:08.579 --> 00:38:09.360
Yeah, yeah.

1030
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.519
By the way, this champagne refuge.

1031
00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:12.900
I should just mention to the listener.

1032
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.099
No, no, he's pretty in a sort of, uh, you know, your parents, uh

1033
00:38:17.099 --> 00:38:18.239
Joseph.

1034
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.239
Yeah, but, uh, I should pick you up from school today.

1035
00:38:21.300 --> 00:38:22.440
Yeah.

1036
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.780
Like Joseph Mengele's crib.

1037
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.400
So, you know, childcare centre.

1038
00:38:26.460 --> 00:38:28.860
Everyone's got blue eyes. that kind of creepy.

1039
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.360
Oh, that's good too.

1040
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.239
We're just watching...

1041
00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:36.300
It's actually the lighting I'm getting excited about.

1042
00:38:36.420 --> 00:38:40.199
Please go and watch some German expressionism. is totally ripped

1043
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:40.440
off.

1044
00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:41.940
We had a recording break.

1045
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.739
I hug a column 2 at this point.

1046
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.119
I'm so with you, babs.

1047
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.900
We had a recording break here, so Barbara could get into her real

1048
00:38:48.900 --> 00:38:51.599
world dress. behind the column.

1049
00:38:51.659 --> 00:38:54.300
Also, she's looking just a little bit hammer horror.

1050
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:55.980
Oh my god, thigh action.

1051
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.800
And he's lost a bit of his choker there, you'll notice, because

1052
00:38:58.800 --> 00:38:59.820
we're now in the real world.

1053
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:03.059
Babs has just realised that she's actually dressed as she's being

1054
00:39:03.059 --> 00:39:03.300
paid.

1055
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:09.119
So was that the ludicrous Altos frock was caused by...

1056
00:39:09.179 --> 00:39:09.659
Exactly, exactly.

1057
00:39:10.260 --> 00:39:15.420
Now, the thing is here, the only problem with putting Barbara in a

1058
00:39:15.420 --> 00:39:18.239
sort of raggy frock is it Shacky Hill?

1059
00:39:18.300 --> 00:39:20.159
She still looks amazing.

1060
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:26.159
The 1st time I saw these, sorry, because it's all about me. 1st

1061
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:27.840
time I saw these, it's 1983.

1062
00:39:28.019 --> 00:39:29.340
Oh, they woggle.

1063
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.679
Just like something you shouldn't be playing with at your age.

1064
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.199
I 1st saw these in the 20th anniversary special and they were

1065
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.440
orange and pink and really, really kind of good, actually.

1066
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:42.659
How did they come back in the 20th anniversary special?

1067
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:49.019
20th anniversary, 5 doctors, radio times, printed special.

1068
00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:49.800
Oh, okay.

1069
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:54.000
That came out as a magazine was the very 1st time any child under

1070
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.000
the age of 20 had seen these things in a colour shot.

1071
00:39:57.059 --> 00:40:00.179
They're actually really great in colour.

1072
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.820
Such a pity they weren't brought back for the 20th season of

1073
00:40:02.820 --> 00:40:03.420
Doctor Who.

1074
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:04.860
Oh, who's to say they weren't?

1075
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.039
So evacuated the script.

1076
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.980
So you're behind the Lazar disease.

1077
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:12.599
Oh, brains.

1078
00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:13.980
That would be.

1079
00:40:13.980 --> 00:40:17.519
Oh, look, it's Eric sober in his 1st screen.

1080
00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:18.960
It would have been better.

1081
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.639
This is so...

1082
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.599
Do you know what this reminds?

1083
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:26.219
This sort of reminds me of this, she's like a prototype, Polly

1084
00:40:26.219 --> 00:40:27.719
like, in the same shot.

1085
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:29.940
It's weird, interesting having a...

1086
00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:30.480
It's better.

1087
00:40:30.900 --> 00:40:32.940
Betton Joan in whatever happened to baby Jane.

1088
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.880
Oh, oh, I want to see that remade.

1089
00:40:35.940 --> 00:40:37.019
To be punished.

1090
00:40:37.019 --> 00:40:38.699
I really want to see that remote.

1091
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.139
I wanna see it done with drag queens.

1092
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.599
You know what is being remade?

1093
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:48.179
Does everyone realise that Sarandon is playing is hang on, who's

1094
00:40:48.179 --> 00:40:48.480
the other one?

1095
00:40:48.539 --> 00:40:53.940
They are actually doing a miniseries for Netflix with Susan

1096
00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:54.900
Sarandon.

1097
00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:56.219
And come on, boys.

1098
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:57.599
Limit Tomlin?

1099
00:40:57.659 --> 00:40:58.559
But haven't you seen?

1100
00:40:58.559 --> 00:40:59.579
As Betty and Joan.

1101
00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:03.840
Psycho, bitches, where it's Mark Gatis and Francis Barber.

1102
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:05.639
Yes, I have three.

1103
00:41:05.699 --> 00:41:06.239
Really?

1104
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:07.079
Really good.

1105
00:41:07.139 --> 00:41:08.159
Oh, please.

1106
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.119
That is the gayest duck face we've had so far, and this is before

1107
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:13.199
rain of terror.

1108
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:14.340
This is fantastic.

1109
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:15.480
I love this.

1110
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.579
It's such a subversion, isn't it, Ty?

1111
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.159
Oh, terry nation.

1112
00:41:20.219 --> 00:41:21.360
Look at the technology.

1113
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.719
And William Harlow is...

1114
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:26.099
William Harlow?

1115
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:26.760
Yes, yes, yes.

1116
00:41:26.820 --> 00:41:30.000
Is this the point where, or was it later where William Hartner was

1117
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.639
the highest paid actor in the BBC?

1118
00:41:32.699 --> 00:41:33.900
Well, look at that.

1119
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:35.639
Yes, no wonder.

1120
00:41:35.699 --> 00:41:40.320
If I put this inside a jab jar, it would be bigger, Leila, than

1121
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:41.519
you are, and gloves.

1122
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.219
It should have been to try hers.

1123
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.260
They should have kept this field going.

1124
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.039
It would have saved them stacks of money over the next sort of 25

1125
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:50.820
years, wouldn't it?

1126
00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:51.719
Possessed.

1127
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:52.920
Stoned.

1128
00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:54.900
She's stroking her key.

1129
00:41:54.900 --> 00:41:56.039
Possessed, really.

1130
00:41:56.099 --> 00:41:57.179
Stoned.

1131
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.659
Actually, I think there's getting a little bit of girly action for

1132
00:42:00.659 --> 00:42:02.820
the young ladylessness at times.

1133
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:03.780
This is getting a little bit.

1134
00:42:03.780 --> 00:42:04.380
What offscreen?

1135
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:04.860
Excitement.

1136
00:42:05.340 --> 00:42:07.079
A bit sappy.

1137
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:07.679
Hello, Barbara.

1138
00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:11.039
Well, I'm going to say, it's a little bit, well, wouldn't you?

1139
00:42:11.099 --> 00:42:12.840
It was a thing I desired moves.

1140
00:42:12.900 --> 00:42:16.380
I, you know, God, is there anyone here who wouldn't, you know, do

1141
00:42:16.380 --> 00:42:17.340
Barbara's hair right now?

1142
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:17.880
It's mine.

1143
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.760
The thing is, I really want...

1144
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.320
I really like her there saying it's mine.

1145
00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:26.159
Do you know Marva to mean anything to you because I am.

1146
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:27.539
He was your father.

1147
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:28.860
I'm sorry, he's dead.

1148
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.320
Arbiter is just arbiter, isn't it?

1149
00:42:31.380 --> 00:42:33.840
It's like the person who decides what you should do and what you

1150
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:34.260
shouldn't do.

1151
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.179
It's Terry Nation, for God's sake.

1152
00:42:36.300 --> 00:42:39.780
Yeah, Terry, the inventor of the planet desperous.

1153
00:42:40.380 --> 00:42:42.840
The desperate people to live on.

1154
00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:45.780
But then you ask Mariners, where there's a sea.

1155
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.119
Arctic, what does that, what's the?

1156
00:42:48.179 --> 00:42:50.340
No, that doesn't really mean anything, but he was the man who

1157
00:42:50.340 --> 00:42:51.960
invented the planet Oridius.

1158
00:42:52.019 --> 00:42:53.639
Which then became a desert.

1159
00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:55.019
Yeah, that was weird.

1160
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.019
I wouldn't have called it a radius if it was like a sea planet

1161
00:42:58.019 --> 00:43:02.159
full of octopuses and... you know what?

1162
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:02.820
With fins.

1163
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:03.960
I don't care.

1164
00:43:04.019 --> 00:43:05.460
I'm actually loving this.

1165
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.460
I'm not this her hair. right now.

1166
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:09.900
Look, it's great.

1167
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:11.400
It doesn't mean we can't take the Mick.

1168
00:43:11.820 --> 00:43:14.699
But these I love her.

1169
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:15.539
I love her.

1170
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.860
I just had a great nightmare.

1171
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:17.699
Yeah.

1172
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.599
I do have to say with these brains, you know, of course, now as an

1173
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.039
adult, I think of Futurama.

1174
00:43:23.099 --> 00:43:27.420
Way over the world before, because we are giant brains.

1175
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:31.019
But as a kid, these terrified me and their voice is terrified me.

1176
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:32.039
Oh, yeah, bump into the table.

1177
00:43:32.099 --> 00:43:32.880
Well done, camera.

1178
00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:33.599
We're so lucky.

1179
00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:35.699
I love that they're going to do.

1180
00:43:35.699 --> 00:43:37.380
That's a beautiful shot through the Belgium.

1181
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.500
They have to join the working party, increase the manpower, but

1182
00:43:40.500 --> 00:43:41.280
what are they actually doing?

1183
00:43:41.340 --> 00:43:44.340
Yeah, we don't know. mining stuff.

1184
00:43:44.460 --> 00:43:46.079
It's science fiction.

1185
00:43:46.139 --> 00:43:48.000
They're always mining crap, God's sake.

1186
00:43:48.059 --> 00:43:48.420
Hold on.

1187
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.039
Since the morphans don't actually have hands.

1188
00:43:50.099 --> 00:43:53.039
Who made who blew the bell jars, so to speak, and made all of

1189
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:53.460
this?

1190
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:54.840
No, well, they have they have lips.

1191
00:43:55.019 --> 00:43:57.119
They have other lips.

1192
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.099
They do.

1193
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.519
You can't see from pine, but they have lips, so they blow their

1194
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.860
own bell jars.

1195
00:44:04.980 --> 00:44:08.280
Yeah, we'll learn something new.

1196
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.019
You see it on video on the internet.

1197
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:13.500
D young listeners, you have so much to look forward to when the

1198
00:44:13.500 --> 00:44:14.099
hormones kick in.

1199
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:18.179
I just have to say, I love the fact that that's almost an answer.

1200
00:44:18.300 --> 00:44:20.519
No, Ted Cannon.

1201
00:44:20.579 --> 00:44:23.219
Also, Babs.

1202
00:44:23.219 --> 00:44:24.539
Also, Babs.

1203
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.159
I think he's gonna turn for badge.

1204
00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:28.920
I have to say, it's kind of cute.

1205
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.260
It's good to see a bloke who doesn't skip leg day.

1206
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.920
Hey, it happens so much.

1207
00:44:34.980 --> 00:44:38.099
That grass, grapple, grasps.

1208
00:44:38.099 --> 00:44:39.059
It's very Adam West.

1209
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:39.780
Barbara Grass.

1210
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.519
Barbara grunting.

1211
00:44:41.579 --> 00:44:44.519
Barbara grunting was the was the subtitle then.

1212
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:45.960
Overpowering.

1213
00:44:46.019 --> 00:44:48.900
Presumably great drag name, isn't it, Barbara Grunt?

1214
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.239
Not a bad knockout there.

1215
00:44:51.300 --> 00:44:52.199
No, no, no.

1216
00:44:52.260 --> 00:44:53.579
Took a whole chance.

1217
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:55.320
That's terrible.

1218
00:44:55.380 --> 00:45:00.179
Her hairspray do would repel ionising radiation, let alone a pot.

1219
00:45:00.300 --> 00:45:03.780
Oh, Sabitha is so out of it.

1220
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.639
She needs to learn when to stop.

1221
00:45:06.059 --> 00:45:09.719
Just one or 2 bowls all day.

1222
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:11.699
Speaking of which was our champagne.

1223
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.300
She is, I'll get a bottle during the next, during the next

1224
00:45:15.300 --> 00:45:15.719
credits.

1225
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.639
Oh, I just want to be you.

1226
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:21.239
Sabitha really is that person who collapses at the party halfway

1227
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:21.539
through.

1228
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.519
She's had too much too soon.

1229
00:45:23.579 --> 00:45:24.719
That's it.

1230
00:45:24.780 --> 00:45:27.780
You know, like you have to hold her hair out of the face while

1231
00:45:27.780 --> 00:45:30.719
she's vomiting in a pot plant, for God's sake.

1232
00:45:30.780 --> 00:45:34.679
He and Barbara actually sort of, do we think they're going to end

1233
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:35.099
up together?

1234
00:45:35.099 --> 00:45:36.599
Yes, come on.

1235
00:45:36.659 --> 00:45:38.579
Have you seen the chase?

1236
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.119
Have you seen the Sarah Jane Adventures?

1237
00:45:42.179 --> 00:45:44.880
I had no choice, but I have to say, though, they should have

1238
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:46.860
learned their lesson after the edge of destruction.

1239
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.679
Don't get William Russell to do possessed acting.

1240
00:45:49.739 --> 00:45:52.079
Don't really get him to do acting.

1241
00:45:52.139 --> 00:45:56.159
You know, he's lovely, but, you know, what does he do?

1242
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.360
He thrusts people into rooms very well.

1243
00:46:00.420 --> 00:46:02.460
She is so good.

1244
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:06.599
She's doing it. and look what he's not doing. is selling this so

1245
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:07.320
well.

1246
00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:10.559
And really, Ian is just mimicking them orphans.

1247
00:46:10.619 --> 00:46:13.619
Well, he's actually anticipating Peter Davidson's resting

1248
00:46:13.619 --> 00:46:16.199
cliffhanger face.

1249
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:16.500
Oh.

1250
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.900
I would hate...

1251
00:46:18.900 --> 00:46:23.219
It's just general face. just say how shocked I've been by Peter.

1252
00:46:23.340 --> 00:46:26.820
I didn't realise Paul Davidson had already started.

1253
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.699
The human body is the most flexible instrument in the world

1254
00:46:29.699 --> 00:46:30.360
Richard.

1255
00:46:30.420 --> 00:46:31.860
You filthy beast.

1256
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.519
I thought children listen to this.

1257
00:46:35.579 --> 00:46:36.420
No, they don't.

1258
00:46:37.019 --> 00:46:39.300
You've seen the truth.

1259
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.059
I love that there's an air vent for the morphetons at the top of

1260
00:46:42.059 --> 00:46:42.659
the belt.

1261
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.420
Yeah, everyone read Sylvia Platt because pretty much I'm just

1262
00:46:45.420 --> 00:46:46.019
reliving it.

1263
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:48.000
No, it's like a bug catcher.

1264
00:46:48.059 --> 00:46:49.500
Did you ever have a bug?

1265
00:46:49.500 --> 00:46:50.639
I remember that cruel.

1266
00:46:50.699 --> 00:46:52.860
Well, look, it's coward.

1267
00:46:52.860 --> 00:46:53.940
Go for it.

1268
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.840
Now, this this gave me nightmares as a kid.

1269
00:46:57.900 --> 00:47:01.679
Yeah, just I just love that you're destroying the model city for

1270
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:02.460
the next story.

1271
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:03.300
Hooray.

1272
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.699
Yeah, you go, barber, kill them.

1273
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.179
But not actually smash any glass because that's a BBC sword. might

1274
00:47:09.179 --> 00:47:09.599
need it.

1275
00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:11.639
She does she does break all the linkages.

1276
00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:14.699
Yes, but she doesn't break the glass because, you know, we might

1277
00:47:14.699 --> 00:47:15.420
need to reshoot.

1278
00:47:15.539 --> 00:47:17.940
But you would have broken the glass if you could afford it.

1279
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:19.019
I just think this is beautiful.

1280
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.199
It's one little bit of washing up bottle and a black curtain and

1281
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.900
it looks gorgeous because Babs is doing so much.

1282
00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:26.880
Ian.

1283
00:47:26.940 --> 00:47:28.860
Stop phoning it in.

1284
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:29.519
Oh.

1285
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.139
There we go.

1286
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:32.340
And the cardigans back.

1287
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:33.239
It's really all I wanted.

1288
00:47:33.539 --> 00:47:35.460
I don't blame them either.

1289
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:36.599
No, where's Billy?

1290
00:47:36.659 --> 00:47:39.059
where's he been Back combing, apparently.

1291
00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:45.599
It really is true to say that we would be here today if it hadn't

1292
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:48.360
been for if it hadn't been for Jacqueline Hill.

1293
00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:51.719
I actually think Jacqueline Hill is the star of this with Billy.

1294
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:56.400
And all I ever asked for, Toddy, All I ever ask for is stories

1295
00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:02.579
where Ian and Susan just bugger off on holiday for 6 episodes.

1296
00:48:02.579 --> 00:48:04.559
Get off onto the sensor, right, space.

1297
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:05.400
Do whatever you want.

1298
00:48:05.460 --> 00:48:06.659
I really don't care.

1299
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:10.320
Get trapped in an airlock, but I just want...

1300
00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:13.679
I just want Billy and bads for the entire 1st season, Todd.

1301
00:48:14.340 --> 00:48:16.440
Oh, you actually want them for the remake season too?

1302
00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:18.000
Just them.

1303
00:48:18.059 --> 00:48:21.539
I was very, I was actually quite disappointed in the recasting of

1304
00:48:21.539 --> 00:48:24.480
Barbara for an adventure in Spain and time because she didn't

1305
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.179
capture the subtlety addiction.

1306
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.059
She wasn't as good, but I mean, who would be?

1307
00:48:30.179 --> 00:48:31.079
Exactly.

1308
00:48:31.139 --> 00:48:32.159
Plus, yeah.

1309
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:32.940
Madeline Khan.

1310
00:48:33.059 --> 00:48:35.639
She only had about 10 lines, don't forget.

1311
00:48:35.699 --> 00:48:37.320
Yeah, she's not even that much.

1312
00:48:37.380 --> 00:48:38.760
It was about Billy and Verity.

1313
00:48:38.820 --> 00:48:42.000
Barbara had no lines for many scenes and yet she's doing

1314
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:43.019
everything.

1315
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:43.860
That's true.

1316
00:48:43.980 --> 00:48:45.300
They should.

1317
00:48:45.300 --> 00:48:46.619
I'm going to go on holiday.

1318
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:51.659
Yeah, Billy's off. send you into perilous situations, which you

1319
00:48:51.659 --> 00:48:54.420
may not survive from, but somehow or another, you will get to the

1320
00:48:54.420 --> 00:48:57.059
end of this story and we'll have these 2 other pseudo companions

1321
00:48:57.059 --> 00:48:58.619
who could be like Ben and Polly.

1322
00:48:59.219 --> 00:49:01.739
Except for trousers.

1323
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:03.300
Two very pretty people.

1324
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.659
And I also love the fact that he's like, no, no, rather than take

1325
00:49:06.659 --> 00:49:09.599
you somewhere safe with me, Susan, I'm going to send you into

1326
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:10.500
unknown dangers.

1327
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.019
I'm not going to get rid of you in this story, but I will

1328
00:49:13.019 --> 00:49:13.920
eventually get rid of you.

1329
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.719
I was just going to say, do you get the impression that he's

1330
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.599
actually been trying to dump the broad for a long time?

1331
00:49:18.659 --> 00:49:21.300
Yes, but you couldn't regenerate yes, yes.

1332
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.579
Is she her grand his granddaughter?

1333
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:24.179
Yes.

1334
00:49:24.300 --> 00:49:27.900
Well, why have you ever wanted to lose a granddaughter as much as

1335
00:49:27.900 --> 00:49:28.679
Billy wants to lose her?

1336
00:49:28.739 --> 00:49:33.539
She's not the lady bloody Lan Eric Saywood. 20th anniversary

1337
00:49:33.539 --> 00:49:34.860
special. you.

1338
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.179
What's the lady Lane?

1339
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.219
Oh, in 20th anniversary special?

1340
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.300
Eric, say when he wrote this story where the doctor saves the lady

1341
00:49:42.300 --> 00:49:45.480
Lan and leaves Gallifrey and the lady Lan says, I'm going to call

1342
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:48.360
myself Susan and be your granddaughter and we will travel together

1343
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.780
and he doesn't just react by going, okay, bit creepy.

1344
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:55.260
Oh, but it was very important to Eric, say with them.

1345
00:49:55.260 --> 00:49:56.400
The doctor had never had sex.

1346
00:49:56.460 --> 00:49:57.360
That's right.

1347
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.239
Like all of our songs. there's something in that for all of us.

1348
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.099
It was actually kind of important to fandom.

1349
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.400
What was about the 80s that the doctor should have had no family

1350
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:09.420
and no background?

1351
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:09.960
What was that?

1352
00:50:10.019 --> 00:50:12.059
Because I think that would make him too human.

1353
00:50:12.179 --> 00:50:15.900
Oh, which it would explain why I can't get through the Dovers

1354
00:50:15.900 --> 00:50:16.320
anymore.

1355
00:50:16.380 --> 00:50:16.920
Stop it.

1356
00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:17.639
Stop it.

1357
00:50:17.699 --> 00:50:19.500
Oh, Caroline.

1358
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:20.579
Bless you.

1359
00:50:20.699 --> 00:50:22.500
Time for it, Arcavin Pinji.

1360
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:22.980
Just stop it.

1361
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:23.579
Stop it.

1362
00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:27.719
How else are you meant to do psychotic acting?

1363
00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:28.739
I think she's doing it very well.

1364
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.000
I like the Apple Watch.

1365
00:50:30.059 --> 00:50:31.320
And this is still what she does.

1366
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.539
In convention, graph cues.

1367
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:33.840
Yeah.

1368
00:50:33.900 --> 00:50:35.400
The streaming jungle.

1369
00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:36.960
I think I need to grab another bottle too.

1370
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:42.480
Young Brendan, I absolutely adore Carol Anne with Paul McGann in

1371
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.460
the audio, the big finish audio.

1372
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.860
She is wonderful in that. you know what?

1373
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:47.820
I won't hear a word against her.

1374
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:48.239
She great.

1375
00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:49.860
Does she does she actually sound quite good?

1376
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.599
She even is given sandwiches.

1377
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.539
She sounds kind of great. great.

1378
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:55.619
She sounds great.

1379
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:57.780
That's a convention, naughty rumour.

1380
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:03.239
And Paul's son, Alex plays her son, the doctor's grandson.

1381
00:51:03.300 --> 00:51:04.679
Great grandson.

1382
00:51:04.739 --> 00:51:07.440
They're some of my favourite big finish audios of all time.

1383
00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:11.579
Brandon is here with playing Diana Rig with an empty with a full

1384
00:51:11.579 --> 00:51:12.360
champagne bottle.

1385
00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:13.679
I'm just about to shoot the cork off.

1386
00:51:13.739 --> 00:51:18.059
I'll try not to shoot your head and I'll just shoot the cock.

1387
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:18.840
Let's see how we go.

1388
00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:21.659
Did the director of this story direct anything else, John?

1389
00:51:22.380 --> 00:51:25.380
No, he died very soon afterwards by fans bitching.

1390
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:26.219
I believe.

1391
00:51:26.219 --> 00:51:29.039
I actually believed you that he died...

1392
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.360
John Don, bitching killed him.

1393
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:31.980
John thought it was...

1394
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:35.760
Okay, John John Gory, I thought, and I will check this when I'm

1395
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.800
not opening up.

1396
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:42.599
He definitely he definitely directs the episode of Reign of Terror

1397
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:45.840
that Heinrich Hirsch was sick for. isn't crap.

1398
00:51:45.900 --> 00:51:47.880
No, it's crap.

1399
00:51:47.940 --> 00:51:48.900
That whole thing's crap.

1400
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.880
No, it's...

1401
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.199
Dear listener, please write in.

1402
00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:54.360
Go away, go away.

1403
00:51:54.420 --> 00:51:57.000
First they go to a pub and then prison.

1404
00:51:57.059 --> 00:52:00.000
It's all been well and truly rehearsed.

1405
00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:01.679
Really cool Apple watches.

1406
00:52:01.739 --> 00:52:03.119
And also...

1407
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:04.380
Oh, they just run into a new scene.

1408
00:52:04.500 --> 00:52:06.119
How could they have killed George Canoras?

1409
00:52:06.179 --> 00:52:08.460
He's expensive. so soon?

1410
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:09.539
It's...

1411
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.019
Well, the thing is, he was, he was the headline star.

1412
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:14.400
Cheers, Tim, isn't it?

1413
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.260
He was...

1414
00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:17.099
Cork out of the bottle.

1415
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:17.400
Yeah.

1416
00:52:17.579 --> 00:52:19.739
Pass me your glass, darling.

1417
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:21.719
Yeah, would you like my glass as well?

1418
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.059
George Caluras was the headline style.

1419
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.159
So they could only afford him for one episode basically.

1420
00:52:26.219 --> 00:52:28.079
Well, they get 2 for the price of one.

1421
00:52:28.139 --> 00:52:30.000
He was the Agnes Moorehead all the time.

1422
00:52:30.059 --> 00:52:30.900
Thank you, darling.

1423
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.099
Keep going, keep going, keep going.

1424
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:33.539
Yeah, why not?

1425
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:34.019
Cheers.

1426
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.219
Cheers, Lucy, listen.

1427
00:52:35.340 --> 00:52:36.599
Let me finish that.

1428
00:52:36.659 --> 00:52:37.980
What does the listener think about this?

1429
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:41.519
I'd like them to respond to our very exciting book of face page

1430
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.940
where we put hilarious jokes up each each week.

1431
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.860
Also, legs.

1432
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.960
His legs have got longer.

1433
00:52:49.019 --> 00:52:49.800
Yeah.

1434
00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:54.480
Also, that is the gayest frock in Doctor Who of all time.

1435
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.119
And Sabeta's as well.

1436
00:52:57.179 --> 00:52:58.380
Do you know, Brendan?

1437
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:03.960
I think he not only skips legs week, he skips, you know, chest and

1438
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:04.980
shoulders.

1439
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.139
Look, he's not eating any carbs.

1440
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:08.760
He has definition in his legs.

1441
00:53:10.019 --> 00:53:13.320
I mean, he's he's a naturally skinny boy.

1442
00:53:13.380 --> 00:53:14.699
He has muscle in his legs.

1443
00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:18.480
Probably from putting his ankles behind his ears for most.

1444
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.059
Yes, I know, listeners.

1445
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.039
I'm sure he's very good at yoga.

1446
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:24.719
Just means you did a lot of gymnastics.

1447
00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:28.320
Very good at yoga. to be dirty-minded, Todd.

1448
00:53:28.380 --> 00:53:30.960
This is terrible. help me, Brendan.

1449
00:53:31.019 --> 00:53:32.099
I'm trapped between these.

1450
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:35.820
I know. like Mortangella in a sanger.

1451
00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:40.800
So John Gory directed the Keys of Marinace and he directed one

1452
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.559
episode of The Reign of Terror.

1453
00:53:43.619 --> 00:53:47.639
But that's been junked, and has now been inexpertly animated, I

1454
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.360
think, by some Australian... direct the missing episode of Planet

1455
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:51.900
of the Giants.

1456
00:53:52.739 --> 00:53:55.260
Yes, the one that was cut out.

1457
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:59.400
Oh, boys, gentlemen. before you start telling us fascinating

1458
00:53:59.400 --> 00:53:59.820
facts.

1459
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:03.059
Can I just ask, whatever happened to all the undiscovered African

1460
00:54:03.059 --> 00:54:03.360
stories?

1461
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.960
Well, because I thought Power of the Daleks was something in

1462
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:12.780
Philip Blarface's compendium of useless trivia that we will never

1463
00:54:12.780 --> 00:54:14.760
get to see because he wants too much money.

1464
00:54:14.820 --> 00:54:16.679
We're allowed to talk about Philip Morris.

1465
00:54:16.739 --> 00:54:17.280
Yeah, yeah.

1466
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.380
But I felt cigarette.

1467
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.079
Yeah, he owns every cigarette in the world.

1468
00:54:22.139 --> 00:54:23.099
That's an in joke.

1469
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:27.420
I thought Bill Morris was in the original Mission Impossible.

1470
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:28.800
Yeah, he was as well.

1471
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.699
I thought he said he had power of the Daleks, Marco Polo and a

1472
00:54:35.699 --> 00:54:37.199
crapload of other things, Brendan.

1473
00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:39.659
Well, I mean, I've never seen any confirmation of that.

1474
00:54:39.780 --> 00:54:40.860
That was certainly the rumour.

1475
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:44.579
I certainly heard Marco Polo rumour. confirmed it quietly to our

1476
00:54:44.579 --> 00:54:46.800
friends, so I should probably not be saying this on the podcast.

1477
00:54:46.860 --> 00:54:47.579
Maybe not.

1478
00:54:47.579 --> 00:54:48.179
So what?

1479
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:52.980
But look, you know, I think where there's smoke, there's fire.

1480
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:59.099
Certainly, Philip and also, I'm afraid his his wife's name escapes

1481
00:54:59.099 --> 00:55:00.360
me at the moment, but she is involved.

1482
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.000
I love the fact that I, for now, that vine with the rock.

1483
00:55:06.059 --> 00:55:06.599
Sorry.

1484
00:55:06.659 --> 00:55:08.880
Thank you, Tom, for coming back to the reason we're doing this

1485
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:09.599
podcast.

1486
00:55:09.659 --> 00:55:13.619
For now, I do apologise for forgetting her name, but I'm going to

1487
00:55:13.619 --> 00:55:15.300
refer to her as Mrs. Morris.

1488
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.699
So if you like Shirley, I think.

1489
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.159
Probably. in that voice.

1490
00:55:20.219 --> 00:55:25.679
She keeps, she sort of keeps the home fires burning and does, does

1491
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.820
Eileen weigh all the time gone. does sort of the administrative

1492
00:55:29.820 --> 00:55:31.679
side in the UK gets things shipped back.

1493
00:55:31.739 --> 00:55:37.019
Now, what I have heard has been the holdup is, and this is just a

1494
00:55:37.019 --> 00:55:37.260
rumour.

1495
00:55:38.699 --> 00:55:42.000
Well, no, I've heard that he has found stuff, but because of the

1496
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:43.260
initial leak.

1497
00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:47.400
Which is the BBC's bloody...

1498
00:55:47.460 --> 00:55:50.760
Of course, the various TV stations now know what they have is

1499
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:51.539
worth money.

1500
00:55:51.900 --> 00:55:54.599
So I gather that has led to problems.

1501
00:55:54.659 --> 00:55:58.739
And of course, the fact that Web of Web of Fear 3, he did discover

1502
00:55:58.739 --> 00:56:03.900
and it was then sold from under him by someone at the TV station.

1503
00:56:04.380 --> 00:56:08.880
Oh, is that why we have, that's why we don't have Web of Fear 3

1504
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.019
because someone sold it.

1505
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.719
And he's still, he, Philip Morris is still trying to track it down

1506
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.059
but basically he said, you know, it was physically handed off and

1507
00:56:15.059 --> 00:56:15.840
paid for with cash.

1508
00:56:15.900 --> 00:56:16.860
Wow.

1509
00:56:17.579 --> 00:56:19.679
Couldn't we sell something?

1510
00:56:21.659 --> 00:56:25.980
We can sell Eric Seywood for scientific experiments.

1511
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:28.440
This statue with the hands, right?

1512
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:29.159
They go like that.

1513
00:56:29.219 --> 00:56:32.159
I remember as a kid watching, it was either a black and white

1514
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.159
Tarzan or it was an Abbott and Luke Costello, where there was...

1515
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:36.239
It is Abbott and Costello.

1516
00:56:36.300 --> 00:56:38.280
I remember... or somewhere.

1517
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.099
They were all fans of this story.

1518
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:46.679
And they had a similar thing in Africa or somewhere and they had

1519
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:49.199
the tribal thing and the hands were like this.

1520
00:56:49.260 --> 00:56:50.280
I just remember.

1521
00:56:50.340 --> 00:56:52.800
It's a little known thing that Carol Anne Ford was actually a hand

1522
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:56.099
model. just like in that episode of Seinfeld.

1523
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.800
There's that Caroline Ford.

1524
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:01.380
Also, really nice ab definition there, statue.

1525
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.659
God, we're desperate, aren't we?

1526
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:05.280
The micro key.

1527
00:57:05.340 --> 00:57:06.480
Oh, they're ecstatic.

1528
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.860
I think I've got it, you certainly have got it, honey.

1529
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.039
So you really act with a wall, can't you?

1530
00:57:14.099 --> 00:57:16.260
And now, also...

1531
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:17.460
Oh, that's not kind.

1532
00:57:17.579 --> 00:57:19.860
Actually, yeah, I'd be up for that.

1533
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.940
Can I just say to the people at home who voted for this story, that

1534
00:57:23.940 --> 00:57:27.780
if you'd voted for the Romans, this commentary podcast would

1535
00:57:27.780 --> 00:57:30.360
nearly be over by now.

1536
00:57:31.139 --> 00:57:33.360
Get off the train, say go to work.

1537
00:57:33.420 --> 00:57:34.679
Can I ask a question?

1538
00:57:34.739 --> 00:57:36.780
Have we actually nominated for Patier?

1539
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.280
Yeah, what is it?

1540
00:57:38.340 --> 00:57:39.900
I'm going for the war games?

1541
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:40.260
Yep.

1542
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.780
I'm really not impressed by that at all.

1543
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:47.219
By the time this release, we will have a result.

1544
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.440
I'm going for the macrotera.

1545
00:57:49.500 --> 00:57:52.260
I'm going for his appearance in the $5.

1546
00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:53.820
I don't really nominate something.

1547
00:57:54.179 --> 00:57:55.739
Yes, you did.

1548
00:57:57.179 --> 00:58:00.840
But at the end of this, at the end of this, I'll announce what it

1549
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:01.019
is.

1550
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:03.000
What do I nominate?

1551
00:58:03.059 --> 00:58:04.920
I'll have to remind you.

1552
00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:07.139
I'm sure I think I know what it is.

1553
00:58:07.260 --> 00:58:07.619
Yeah.

1554
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:08.760
You were drunk.

1555
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.760
Todd doesn't drink, so that's pretty interesting.

1556
00:58:11.820 --> 00:58:14.579
Does somebody actually have a, we've actually got a result to it?

1557
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.139
Well, by this time we will have a result.

1558
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:18.719
We don't have a result as of recording, but we will have a result

1559
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.099
as by the time this comes out.

1560
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:21.900
Because that will be the far.

1561
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:23.280
So you've just spoiled the...

1562
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.380
I've spoiled the magic that I'm going to record...

1563
00:58:25.380 --> 00:58:28.739
I've heard something for which there are no telly snaps and no

1564
00:58:28.739 --> 00:58:29.340
recording.

1565
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:34.440
So we're actually going to sit here and commentate nothing and

1566
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:34.679
audio.

1567
00:58:34.739 --> 00:58:37.139
Well, in order for that to happen, Richard.

1568
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.179
One of us will have to suggest a missing story.

1569
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:41.699
Oh, we haven't done that, have we?

1570
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:45.360
Well, it's for me, it's Power of the Daleks, but that will be

1571
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:45.539
back.

1572
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.820
We'll have to do a commentary on that. you know what?

1573
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.400
We'll just do it anyway because annoying our listeners is our

1574
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:51.179
reason to live.

1575
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:52.019
You know what?

1576
00:58:52.019 --> 00:58:52.739
Okay, be back.

1577
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:53.280
Yeah.

1578
00:58:53.340 --> 00:58:54.000
Ish.

1579
00:58:54.059 --> 00:58:56.340
Actually, have you, dear listener, have you watched the little

1580
00:58:56.340 --> 00:58:57.239
animated things?

1581
00:58:57.300 --> 00:58:58.920
The little moments?

1582
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.360
It's really cool.

1583
00:59:00.420 --> 00:59:02.340
Fantastic. actually looks better.

1584
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:04.679
Clearly this episode is incredibly boring.

1585
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.360
No, it's just people touching other people in bathrobes.

1586
00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:10.320
What's not to like?

1587
00:59:10.380 --> 00:59:14.280
Also, arms. looking very concerned.

1588
00:59:14.340 --> 00:59:17.579
This is my parents' house in the 1970s.

1589
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:20.699
There's just lots of palm bronze and I want Barbara back.

1590
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.300
I think they've just all been to a Keith tossing party Oh, by the

1591
00:59:24.300 --> 00:59:24.480
way.

1592
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.659
So does that mean shirtless George Lazenby is about to appear

1593
00:59:27.659 --> 00:59:28.079
originally?

1594
00:59:28.739 --> 00:59:32.519
I'll be your guardian, Susan.

1595
00:59:32.579 --> 00:59:33.539
Well, you're screwed.

1596
00:59:33.659 --> 00:59:36.840
Or not, really, honestly. honestly, you're fine.

1597
00:59:36.900 --> 00:59:37.920
Where's Barbara?

1598
00:59:37.980 --> 00:59:39.840
She's been taken by the statue.

1599
00:59:39.900 --> 00:59:41.099
Yeah, really?

1600
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:42.179
Is she having a break?

1601
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.159
Does she have a tan when she comes back?

1602
00:59:44.219 --> 00:59:45.780
There was no recording break there.

1603
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:49.320
They just ran off set during William Russell's shot.

1604
00:59:49.380 --> 00:59:50.699
I don't mind that at all.

1605
00:59:50.699 --> 00:59:51.780
No, no, it's fine.

1606
00:59:51.780 --> 00:59:52.920
Another one of these moments.

1607
00:59:52.980 --> 00:59:54.599
What's the safe word?

1608
00:59:54.659 --> 00:59:55.380
What did she just say?

1609
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.940
They can't think of anything to say. jaunting bracelets.

1610
01:00:00.059 --> 01:00:01.139
It's really excitement.

1611
01:00:01.260 --> 01:00:03.719
It reminds me of the dead planet.

1612
01:00:03.780 --> 01:00:04.800
The fluid link.

1613
01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:07.380
No, it's just a box of flashing lights.

1614
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.260
Yeah, they don't have the money for that.

1615
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:14.639
The question is, though, this week's why are they doing this in

1616
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:18.360
the plot is, it's a fake key that they put on the idol and then

1617
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:21.360
the idol takes you prisoner and tries and tries to kill you.

1618
01:00:21.420 --> 01:00:22.199
Why?

1619
01:00:22.260 --> 01:00:24.659
Why not just let someone get away with the fake key and let them

1620
01:00:24.659 --> 01:00:25.320
think they've got it?

1621
01:00:25.380 --> 01:00:26.760
Why then kill them?

1622
01:00:26.820 --> 01:00:29.579
This podcast would make no sense.

1623
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:34.260
Did I pretended he set up all these traps for people?

1624
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:38.159
Yeah, or maybe it was some Darius who will make sure.

1625
01:00:38.219 --> 01:00:44.460
Maybe it was Darius, who will meet shortly, who's played by Edmund

1626
01:00:44.460 --> 01:00:47.159
Warwick, who will later be the indistinguishable from the

1627
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.019
original...

1628
01:00:49.139 --> 01:00:51.239
Why did they bring him back for the final?

1629
01:00:51.300 --> 01:00:53.400
Why does everyone of Rosie was dead, I believe.

1630
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:54.719
He was horribly dead.

1631
01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:55.800
Why does everybody?

1632
01:00:55.860 --> 01:00:56.460
Oh, nice hands.

1633
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.860
Why does everybody rub up against, Oh, grab his arse.

1634
01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.760
You know you want to.

1635
01:00:59.820 --> 01:01:02.219
Yeah, that was very chaste, wasn't it?

1636
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:03.119
Very chaste.

1637
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.099
Oh, and then, which we didn't get to.

1638
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:05.699
Oh, also.

1639
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.460
Oh, that was...

1640
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:10.800
If we were going to do a 6 parter, why didn't I?

1641
01:01:10.860 --> 01:01:11.579
It was very angry.

1642
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:13.980
Why didn't you nominate the chase me?

1643
01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:15.000
Because this is yours.

1644
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.000
I would have preferred the Those are very Anglican rather than

1645
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.320
Catholic group, wasn't it?

1646
01:01:19.380 --> 01:01:20.159
Yes indeed.

1647
01:01:20.219 --> 01:01:21.059
Oh, hello.

1648
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:25.019
Are we going to get Peter Davis's exciting 1st memory of Doctor

1649
01:01:25.019 --> 01:01:25.559
Who?

1650
01:01:25.739 --> 01:01:27.780
Yeah, that's when we find out about episode 15.

1651
01:01:28.019 --> 01:01:29.760
We'd still be here, do listen.

1652
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:30.360
Oh, no.

1653
01:01:30.420 --> 01:01:32.039
Also, that statue's washing its hair.

1654
01:01:32.099 --> 01:01:36.840
Also, ow, this is gonna really hurt.

1655
01:01:37.500 --> 01:01:39.719
As Nathan would say.

1656
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.659
No, seriously, this is panto.

1657
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:45.900
Behind you.

1658
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:48.960
She's not stirred, though.

1659
01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:51.960
Never mind.

1660
01:01:52.019 --> 01:01:53.519
Yeah, never mind about me saving your life.

1661
01:01:53.579 --> 01:01:54.780
Never mind about you being an idiot.

1662
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:55.380
I shouldn't.

1663
01:01:55.380 --> 01:01:59.400
I've just read the scripts for Reign of Terror.

1664
01:01:59.940 --> 01:02:02.699
Why are you so mild, Length?

1665
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.119
At which point are we stunned?

1666
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:10.320
should this episode booby trap?

1667
01:02:10.380 --> 01:02:11.460
Yeah, we should.

1668
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:12.420
Are you frozen?

1669
01:02:12.539 --> 01:02:14.219
She just said it.

1670
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:14.699
Yes.

1671
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:20.699
At which point do we realise that Babs and Ian decided to just, you

1672
01:02:20.699 --> 01:02:21.539
know, go home?

1673
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:25.500
Oh, no, come on, from the 1st moment they met, they're the perfect

1674
01:02:25.500 --> 01:02:26.039
couple.

1675
01:02:26.099 --> 01:02:28.380
Right, because they're sexless.

1676
01:02:28.380 --> 01:02:30.179
Spencer Tracy and Catherine Hepburn.

1677
01:02:30.179 --> 01:02:31.679
Sexless and disinterested, yeah.

1678
01:02:31.739 --> 01:02:34.019
Although to be...

1679
01:02:34.019 --> 01:02:39.480
In that Catherine Hepburn was obsessed with Spencer Tracy, Spencer

1680
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:40.320
Tracy was indifferent.

1681
01:02:40.380 --> 01:02:44.400
Catherine Hepburn actually liked very tall, thin, dark-haired

1682
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.559
women and Spencer Tracy was also queer.

1683
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:49.019
And that evidence is well out there.

1684
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.559
So yes, they are the perfect Pete Burner Trosey car.

1685
01:02:52.619 --> 01:02:55.920
Yeah, I just have to say, though, as gorgeous as I think William

1686
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.260
Russell is here, Spencer Tracy's hotter.

1687
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.579
Spencer Tracy liked, gentlemen not unlike yourself, actually

1688
01:03:02.579 --> 01:03:03.000
Brandon.

1689
01:03:03.059 --> 01:03:03.599
Awesome.

1690
01:03:03.659 --> 01:03:04.860
Also, eel.

1691
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.480
No, he's hot.

1692
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:08.760
Oh, he was a reeking alcoholic.

1693
01:03:08.820 --> 01:03:11.400
I'm just talking physically.

1694
01:03:11.460 --> 01:03:13.079
Hello, I'm right here.

1695
01:03:13.260 --> 01:03:15.179
You're both right.

1696
01:03:16.980 --> 01:03:18.960
Thank you, Todd.

1697
01:03:19.019 --> 01:03:21.059
I think that's the sound bite for the episode.

1698
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.940
That could be a title.

1699
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.039
But, you know, I'm just watching Jackie.

1700
01:03:26.099 --> 01:03:28.260
Meanwhile, I really...

1701
01:03:28.260 --> 01:03:33.179
Meanwhile, really, the budget's kicked in. indistinguishable from

1702
01:03:33.179 --> 01:03:34.260
the area weasel.

1703
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.179
Beat me to it.

1704
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:41.760
I'll beat you later. whatever. creaking open.

1705
01:03:41.820 --> 01:03:43.559
Do you think it's overcall her bat?

1706
01:03:43.619 --> 01:03:45.420
Is it Altos from the future?

1707
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:46.739
What's happening here?

1708
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.400
His name's Darius or Darius or Darius Twin?

1709
01:03:50.460 --> 01:03:52.019
Come on in.

1710
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.019
Stop fondling. with such reverence.

1711
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:57.599
Hello, anyone there?

1712
01:03:58.260 --> 01:04:00.659
door. door.

1713
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.079
We don't have that many doors.

1714
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:06.119
Oh, man.

1715
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:06.900
Screaming.

1716
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:10.019
I actually don't think there is a Doctor Who story that couldn't

1717
01:04:10.019 --> 01:04:13.019
be improved by a net falling on something at some point.

1718
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:14.099
It's fantastic.

1719
01:04:14.099 --> 01:04:14.940
Wind farm.

1720
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.340
This is like...

1721
01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:18.960
Indiana Jones before Indiana Jones.

1722
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:22.860
That's one of my favourite things.

1723
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:25.860
The thing about the rescue is like when all those blades come out

1724
01:04:25.860 --> 01:04:29.880
the wall and sort of try and push them off the cliff into Sandy's

1725
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:31.019
waiting more.

1726
01:04:31.619 --> 01:04:34.380
The thing is, okay, that's well done.

1727
01:04:34.500 --> 01:04:35.760
Yeah, but really well done.

1728
01:04:35.820 --> 01:04:36.300
That was really fast.

1729
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.159
Why trigger that with a pickaxe?

1730
01:04:38.219 --> 01:04:40.619
Why is he going to try and get a pickaxe that's already moving?

1731
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:43.139
Sorry.

1732
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:45.179
I don't want to see her die, but really.

1733
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:46.860
Or Jacqueline.

1734
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:49.440
They're so wobbly. just like they're going to give you a

1735
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:51.059
malshiatsu massage.

1736
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.500
Chicken feet.

1737
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:55.260
I hate those two.

1738
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:56.099
I can't eat them.

1739
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:56.579
Do you eat?

1740
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:57.780
No, I don't eat.

1741
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:59.579
They're too grisly for me.

1742
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:01.559
She's been tortured by yum char.

1743
01:05:01.619 --> 01:05:04.260
No, but that's what the things look like in the rescue as well.

1744
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:05.699
They're not very convincing.

1745
01:05:05.699 --> 01:05:06.719
Well, you married.

1746
01:05:06.780 --> 01:05:08.280
Robert married into the culture didn't you?

1747
01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:12.480
I have eaten chicken's feet in order to impress my in-laws.

1748
01:05:12.539 --> 01:05:16.320
And well, I'm fairly impressive anyway, whether I do that or not.

1749
01:05:16.380 --> 01:05:18.719
Yeah, they're very pointy things. speaking of impressive people.

1750
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:21.119
This old fool.

1751
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.440
So it's Organon, the present apologise.

1752
01:05:25.500 --> 01:05:28.320
He was also a well-known homosexualist in real life.

1753
01:05:28.380 --> 01:05:29.579
It's not Jeffrey Balden.

1754
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:31.679
No, he is also...

1755
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:32.760
He escaped the death zone.

1756
01:05:34.139 --> 01:05:37.800
I just like that you were allowed to be an actor and not have

1757
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:38.639
there was no Botox.

1758
01:05:38.699 --> 01:05:39.599
No, that's right.

1759
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:44.219
Well, you know, some actors, and I think Ian McKellen among them

1760
01:05:44.219 --> 01:05:48.059
has said, the acting, the acting world's obsession with looks

1761
01:05:48.059 --> 01:05:51.840
means that a lot of, a lot of very talented actors aren't.

1762
01:05:51.900 --> 01:05:55.079
No, sorry, it was Rory Kinnear because, you know, Rory Kinnear is

1763
01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:57.900
not classically Brad Pitt or anything like that.

1764
01:05:57.960 --> 01:05:59.460
Never said no to a pie.

1765
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.440
But it's he's good looking.

1766
01:06:01.500 --> 01:06:02.699
He's got the plan.

1767
01:06:02.699 --> 01:06:03.300
He's very good actor.

1768
01:06:03.420 --> 01:06:06.239
You and I kind of think so, but the thing is, he's kind of said

1769
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:06.659
you know what?

1770
01:06:06.659 --> 01:06:10.079
I know I know I'm kind of mid-range, but there's lots of actors

1771
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.659
who are being overlooked because of their looks.

1772
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:14.280
I just know where he's coming from.

1773
01:06:16.260 --> 01:06:18.420
I think he's fantastic.

1774
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:19.320
You've seen that episode.

1775
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:20.519
He's gorgeous.

1776
01:06:20.579 --> 01:06:21.539
Dark Mirror.

1777
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:23.280
Everything's just gorgeous.

1778
01:06:23.340 --> 01:06:26.400
When he plays David Cameron before David Cameron.

1779
01:06:26.460 --> 01:06:28.380
Yes, and the one that...

1780
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:29.460
The 1st men in the moon?

1781
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:31.139
Help me.

1782
01:06:31.139 --> 01:06:36.059
You've lived in there forever and like just now you decide to get

1783
01:06:36.059 --> 01:06:36.539
strangled.

1784
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:39.239
Well, the thing is, his safe word is help me and the plants just

1785
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:39.719
aren't listening.

1786
01:06:39.780 --> 01:06:42.960
Oh, his safe words...

1787
01:06:43.019 --> 01:06:44.340
He can't remember how to spell it.

1788
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:49.320
Dude, listen, what colour do you think Babs's cardigan is right on

1789
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:51.360
the back of a past postcard and send...

1790
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:51.840
I actually know.

1791
01:06:51.900 --> 01:06:53.579
Pink or camel?

1792
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:56.039
It is it is baby blue.

1793
01:06:56.099 --> 01:06:57.539
It is very light blue.

1794
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:00.360
So she had that many of them because I've seen the camel one and

1795
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:01.139
I've seen the pink one.

1796
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:03.960
This poor man's just seen Eric say where.

1797
01:07:04.500 --> 01:07:06.539
The jungle is coming.

1798
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:10.019
I've just learned who's been cast as the 6th doctor, I think.

1799
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:11.579
Death, I tell you, death.

1800
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:12.360
No, Nate.

1801
01:07:12.420 --> 01:07:16.019
He's just learned what scripts are coming up in season 24.

1802
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:18.900
You love season 24.

1803
01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:19.800
I do not.

1804
01:07:19.860 --> 01:07:20.280
You do?

1805
01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:21.960
I've seen you enjoy it.

1806
01:07:22.019 --> 01:07:23.219
I've watched you.

1807
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:24.000
I never enjoyed it.

1808
01:07:24.059 --> 01:07:25.860
I an embarrassing pizza.

1809
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.900
I adore season 24.

1810
01:07:28.260 --> 01:07:29.219
And I actually do too.

1811
01:07:29.219 --> 01:07:31.019
And I'm glad Richard's going to be on that one.

1812
01:07:32.699 --> 01:07:36.239
Todd's totally lying because I've watched him watch it.

1813
01:07:36.300 --> 01:07:39.719
Well, I think I think what happens is you've watched Todd Watch

1814
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:43.019
Adulter in the Barrowman and he didn't projectile vomit that one

1815
01:07:43.019 --> 01:07:43.320
time.

1816
01:07:43.380 --> 01:07:46.860
So, I mean, technically it's improvement.

1817
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:47.820
John and the Baron.

1818
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:49.199
John of the Baraban.

1819
01:07:49.260 --> 01:07:49.920
Still terrible.

1820
01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:53.820
Oh.

1821
01:07:53.820 --> 01:07:58.019
I'm in my trips. in Doctor Who of all time. is the worst actor.

1822
01:07:58.679 --> 01:07:59.880
There is Jenny Land.

1823
01:07:59.940 --> 01:08:00.780
No, he's worse.

1824
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:02.579
No, no, I think he's...

1825
01:08:02.579 --> 01:08:05.039
He's the lord president for Markham Infinity, and believe you me

1826
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:05.880
he doesn't get much worse.

1827
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.800
Barrowman is worse because he goes on.

1828
01:08:07.980 --> 01:08:10.440
He's actually a lot better in Doctor Who than he is in Torchwood.

1829
01:08:10.500 --> 01:08:13.800
But the thing is, Torchwood doesn't serve everyone very well

1830
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.439
because it's like it's adults, so everyone has to be depressed.

1831
01:08:16.500 --> 01:08:18.420
You wouldn't push him out of bed, would you?

1832
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:19.079
Yeah, I would.

1833
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:21.239
Really would.

1834
01:08:21.300 --> 01:08:22.500
And you'd have this guy instead.

1835
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:23.520
Yep, totes.

1836
01:08:23.579 --> 01:08:24.420
Lovely.

1837
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.180
He's a beard.

1838
01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:29.760
He's a pushy controlling bottom.

1839
01:08:29.819 --> 01:08:32.520
I have to say, PCB.

1840
01:08:32.579 --> 01:08:33.659
You say that like it's a bad thing.

1841
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:35.699
All right.

1842
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:37.979
Oh, it changed the subject, suddenly.

1843
01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:39.720
Oh, thank goodness somebody's dying.

1844
01:08:39.779 --> 01:08:40.319
Oh, damn it.

1845
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:43.859
I'm already obsessed with this.

1846
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.880
If I could get death and disease and destruction into Doctor Who.

1847
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.000
Well the practical problem with leaving someone alone.

1848
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:54.300
That's your favourite episode, title day.

1849
01:08:54.300 --> 01:08:56.159
Going back here, it deserves as much death as you think.

1850
01:08:56.220 --> 01:08:56.880
Season 21.

1851
01:08:57.060 --> 01:08:58.020
You wait till you get to it.

1852
01:08:58.079 --> 01:08:59.340
There's massacres galore.

1853
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:02.520
And I was complaining last season, season 20 about not enough

1854
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.739
death and now it's gone the other way. you're sick of it.

1855
01:09:04.979 --> 01:09:08.880
Suddenly we're in Oscar Wilde's flowering ranging room.

1856
01:09:08.939 --> 01:09:11.220
What could possibly go wrong?

1857
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:12.899
It's a safe.

1858
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:15.060
Oh, a safe word.

1859
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:16.979
R23, oh, two.

1860
01:09:17.100 --> 01:09:19.739
This is where termination proves that you can't do dialogue.

1861
01:09:19.979 --> 01:09:22.979
Oh, this is where he previously.

1862
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.619
And because this is DE 302.

1863
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:29.100
I think because he's still alive at this point, we've got we've

1864
01:09:29.100 --> 01:09:30.060
got Kenny Baker in there.

1865
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:32.039
That's DE 302.

1866
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:33.840
Oh, I thought he was the hand.

1867
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:34.680
Certainly not shoot.

1868
01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:35.579
Just stop it.

1869
01:09:36.180 --> 01:09:39.539
It's obviously one of those things that's meant to be a chemical

1870
01:09:39.539 --> 01:09:39.899
formula.

1871
01:09:40.020 --> 01:09:40.920
Sorry, sorry.

1872
01:09:41.579 --> 01:09:46.319
Why is there a safe, just like an earth safe on an alien world?

1873
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:47.760
No, it's annoying me now.

1874
01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:49.260
That's all they could afford.

1875
01:09:49.380 --> 01:09:53.520
No, but no, it's the Paul writing. makes no sense.

1876
01:09:53.579 --> 01:09:54.899
No, well come on.

1877
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.899
They're going to do an alien world and it's going to be full of

1878
01:09:57.899 --> 01:10:00.300
telephones and microphones and shoes.

1879
01:10:01.140 --> 01:10:01.859
The safe is justice.

1880
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:02.579
Did you say shoes?

1881
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:03.420
Shoes.

1882
01:10:04.260 --> 01:10:06.239
I heard what you did there.

1883
01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:08.939
Listener, write in, listener.

1884
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:11.640
They're juice everywhere.

1885
01:10:11.699 --> 01:10:12.600
They're a juice in space.

1886
01:10:12.659 --> 01:10:13.439
I seen Mel Brooks.

1887
01:10:14.340 --> 01:10:18.300
Now, as you said, Nathan, it is friends have friends who are Jews

1888
01:10:18.300 --> 01:10:18.600
go on.

1889
01:10:18.659 --> 01:10:21.359
It is a chemical formula, which doesn't actually make sense with

1890
01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:22.680
any of our...

1891
01:10:22.739 --> 01:10:24.420
DE302.

1892
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:27.300
Although the discontinuity guide speculates that it might be

1893
01:10:27.300 --> 01:10:29.399
drivel dioxide. love it.

1894
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:34.979
Todd, or indeed Brendan, who's flexing his cast as we speak

1895
01:10:34.979 --> 01:10:36.720
because, you know, this is the kind of thing the listener likes to

1896
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:36.960
hear.

1897
01:10:37.020 --> 01:10:39.960
What were the what was the ratings for this episode?

1898
01:10:40.140 --> 01:10:42.779
It's crap, Todd.

1899
01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:44.220
You know what?

1900
01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:44.939
You're the expert.

1901
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.340
I'm actually not. actually quite stumped because I haven't looked

1902
01:10:47.340 --> 01:10:48.659
this up, but I think it was...

1903
01:10:48.659 --> 01:10:49.319
You don't care.

1904
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:52.619
No. 9000000s to 10.

1905
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:53.460
No.

1906
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.020
Dr. Wade.

1907
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:56.939
Doctor Who's getting married?

1908
01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:57.659
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1909
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:01.979
Even even when Peter Davidson pulls his pants up and plays cricket

1910
01:11:01.979 --> 01:11:03.420
he only gets 7 points something.

1911
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.779
It's like there's virtually rationing still going.

1912
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:10.260
Okay, I have the figures here. have the figures here.

1913
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:11.159
I think it does tail off.

1914
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:12.420
Episode one, 9.9.

1915
01:11:12.539 --> 01:11:14.100
That's amazing.

1916
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:15.119
9.4?

1917
01:11:15.180 --> 01:11:17.100
This episode 9.9.

1918
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:17.880
What?

1919
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.500
Next week, 10.4.

1920
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:20.760
No.

1921
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:22.140
Does it drop off towards the end?

1922
01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:22.680
It does.

1923
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:27.180
7.9 and 6.9.

1924
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:28.800
Yes, thank you, Britain.

1925
01:11:28.859 --> 01:11:31.560
Britain immediately post the war.

1926
01:11:31.619 --> 01:11:33.840
Like there's rationing still going on.

1927
01:11:33.899 --> 01:11:35.220
This is 64.

1928
01:11:35.460 --> 01:11:36.300
And then...

1929
01:11:36.300 --> 01:11:36.659
64.

1930
01:11:36.779 --> 01:11:37.500
Yeah, I know.

1931
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:41.039
There's 2 channels that haven't even invented masculation.

1932
01:11:41.100 --> 01:11:43.859
Hey, they did have centrinians there.

1933
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:45.239
Sorry, Todd.

1934
01:11:45.300 --> 01:11:46.199
My ears are burning.

1935
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:47.640
This is just unacceptable.

1936
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:49.319
The ratings.

1937
01:11:49.380 --> 01:11:50.699
There an unearthly screeching sound.

1938
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:55.800
There you go. 10000000 people were in love with Barbara.

1939
01:11:55.859 --> 01:11:56.819
Why wasn't it 40?

1940
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.260
Yeah, no.

1941
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.340
Actually, how many people owned televisions?

1942
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:03.600
Yeah, what was the population?

1943
01:12:03.659 --> 01:12:04.199
don't know.

1944
01:12:04.260 --> 01:12:08.159
I think the population mostly sold them to everyone. by this

1945
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:08.399
point.

1946
01:12:08.460 --> 01:12:12.539
Well, the population of the UK currently is around 60 million.

1947
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:14.159
In 1964.

1948
01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:14.880
No, now.

1949
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.680
What was it in 64?

1950
01:12:16.859 --> 01:12:20.279
I don't know, but I'm thinking 25, 30 million.

1951
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.460
I'm making a prediction.

1952
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.680
Use the webby...

1953
01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:26.939
I think it was more like the 30.

1954
01:12:27.180 --> 01:12:27.539
Oh, look.

1955
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.479
Oh, it's the crinoline. immigration had started.

1956
01:12:30.539 --> 01:12:33.960
Oh my goodness, he was the crenoid all along.

1957
01:12:34.020 --> 01:12:35.880
He was the Captain Peacock all the time.

1958
01:12:35.939 --> 01:12:37.140
That is such an in joke.

1959
01:12:37.380 --> 01:12:43.500
Maybe Altos is actually Harrison Chase. fresh breath mint.

1960
01:12:44.460 --> 01:12:50.220
That's Mentos. my favourite Doctor Who villain of all time.

1961
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:51.180
Really?

1962
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:53.699
He's the Kenneth Williams we never had.

1963
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.039
Who's your favourite Doctor Who villain of all time?

1964
01:12:56.100 --> 01:13:00.359
My favourite Dr. Villain of all time would have to be...

1965
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:01.020
Colin Baker.

1966
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:01.800
Best store.

1967
01:13:01.859 --> 01:13:06.119
Yes, he is. really good.

1968
01:13:06.180 --> 01:13:07.319
And I've got to defend that.

1969
01:13:07.380 --> 01:13:10.380
Oh, well, not yet.

1970
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:12.239
No, I'm making that up.

1971
01:13:12.300 --> 01:13:15.239
So the favourite of 2 villain of all time.

1972
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:17.880
Eric Sand.

1973
01:13:17.939 --> 01:13:19.680
Oh, look, there's a...

1974
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.479
So, Barbara, what was your favourite?

1975
01:13:21.539 --> 01:13:23.939
My favourite Doctor Who villain of all time.

1976
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.739
No, you're Ian.

1977
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:28.380
No, I'm not sure.

1978
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:29.159
Oh, come on.

1979
01:13:29.220 --> 01:13:30.840
Strangely enough.

1980
01:13:30.899 --> 01:13:32.100
Oh sorry.

1981
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:33.300
Julian Glover, I think.

1982
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:33.840
Obviously.

1983
01:13:34.260 --> 01:13:36.300
I'd go for Dubai.

1984
01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:37.439
I go for Tobias Vaughan.

1985
01:13:37.500 --> 01:13:39.899
Oh, yes, no, that's crazy.

1986
01:13:40.140 --> 01:13:43.560
To know what possible other answer could there?

1987
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:44.939
You've already had the chin.

1988
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.079
And they found...

1989
01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:47.760
They found the...

1990
01:13:47.819 --> 01:13:49.920
They found the DS9 isolinear rod.

1991
01:13:49.979 --> 01:13:51.600
There we are. which is exactly the same.

1992
01:13:51.659 --> 01:13:52.859
So young Brendan.

1993
01:13:52.859 --> 01:13:56.819
Population of the UK in the night in 1960 was actually 53

1994
01:13:56.819 --> 01:13:57.180
million.

1995
01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:59.640
And it's only 65 million now.

1996
01:13:59.699 --> 01:14:02.039
Okay, because we killed all of them.

1997
01:14:02.100 --> 01:14:06.420
So 20% of the population was watching this?

1998
01:14:06.539 --> 01:14:07.979
right. fantastic.

1999
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:11.640
And the thing is, even now, 10% of the population watch Doctor

2000
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:11.939
Who.

2001
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.520
Under Capaldi, did they watch?

2002
01:14:14.579 --> 01:14:15.300
Under Capaldi.

2003
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.279
His ratings are averaging 6 million.

2004
01:14:17.699 --> 01:14:19.319
My goodness.

2005
01:14:19.380 --> 01:14:21.359
That's a bit tragic, though, because how many were watching

2006
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:21.899
Tenant?

2007
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:22.199
10.

2008
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:22.680
10.

2009
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.739
Oh, yeah. it's a different one.

2010
01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:27.119
It's always going to drop off.

2011
01:14:27.180 --> 01:14:29.279
I think it's a different media landscape.

2012
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:32.039
And I also think the show is older than it was.

2013
01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:34.739
You know, like people are watching on different platforms.

2014
01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:37.859
There's lot of channels even now and you are right.

2015
01:14:38.340 --> 01:14:40.380
It is going to drop off.

2016
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:42.359
It's never going to be as big as it was under 10.

2017
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:44.939
He's drawing his fingernails by waving his hand in the air.

2018
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:45.359
So go on.

2019
01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:48.239
Because we are going to take a slight toilet break, dear listener

2020
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.340
we have to stop talking by the end of the credits, but we will

2021
01:14:50.340 --> 01:14:52.199
rejoin you for episodes four.

2022
01:14:52.260 --> 01:14:53.520
You don't need to pause at all.

2023
01:14:53.579 --> 01:14:54.239
Just keep playing.

2024
01:14:54.300 --> 01:14:54.960
Thank you for listening.

2025
01:14:55.140 --> 01:14:58.079
I hardly believe you'll still be here, but go on.

2026
01:15:01.140 --> 01:15:02.640
John Gory, you're crap.

2027
01:15:05.699 --> 01:15:07.920
Well, I refuse.

2028
01:15:07.979 --> 01:15:08.640
What about you?

2029
01:15:08.699 --> 01:15:09.720
Welcome back.

2030
01:15:09.779 --> 01:15:13.680
It's a flight through entire cheese part 2 of the wonderful keys

2031
01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:16.800
of Particle Marines.

2032
01:15:16.859 --> 01:15:17.939
Yeah, that's it.

2033
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:25.140
We're the only Doctor Who podcast still going after 3 episodes of

2034
01:15:25.140 --> 01:15:26.220
the keys of Mariners.

2035
01:15:26.460 --> 01:15:27.779
That's one of the ratings for this one?

2036
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.239
A million...

2037
01:15:30.300 --> 01:15:31.920
10.4 for this episode.

2038
01:15:31.979 --> 01:15:33.060
Just for that scene.

2039
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:39.060
Tuned in to cover William Russell and Jackie Hill in Jabalite.

2040
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:41.220
They're in deep distress.

2041
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:44.640
Now, of course, it's been it's been 4 trips to the toilet for us

2042
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.460
but mere seconds for you, dear listener, that's the nature of time

2043
01:15:47.460 --> 01:15:47.819
travel.

2044
01:15:47.939 --> 01:15:49.199
I'm too tired.

2045
01:15:49.260 --> 01:15:50.640
It's all measured in urine.

2046
01:15:50.699 --> 01:15:51.720
Go to sleep.

2047
01:15:51.779 --> 01:15:53.640
Sleep in the snow.

2048
01:15:53.699 --> 01:15:54.659
Oh, come on, Barbara.

2049
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:55.619
Don't do that.

2050
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:56.579
You're fabulous.

2051
01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.380
You're wearing a jumper.

2052
01:15:58.439 --> 01:15:59.520
Ian is wearing.

2053
01:15:59.579 --> 01:16:02.460
I just say that linen. great acting from William Russell.

2054
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:03.300
She outacted him.

2055
01:16:03.300 --> 01:16:03.600
Yes.

2056
01:16:03.659 --> 01:16:04.260
Yeah, nothing else then.

2057
01:16:04.380 --> 01:16:05.340
Well, as usual.

2058
01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:06.420
Exactly.

2059
01:16:06.420 --> 01:16:07.680
You know what, rules of terror?

2060
01:16:07.739 --> 01:16:08.819
I just love Terry Nation.

2061
01:16:08.819 --> 01:16:13.739
Screaming jungle, the snooze of terror, the script of boredom.

2062
01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:14.760
Ex of wine.

2063
01:16:14.939 --> 01:16:17.399
What do we think of termination?

2064
01:16:17.460 --> 01:16:18.720
I actually quite like him.

2065
01:16:18.779 --> 01:16:20.100
Yeah, actually too as well.

2066
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:24.239
You hated Planet of the Daleks, though. the 1970s.

2067
01:16:24.300 --> 01:16:25.199
This is the 60s.

2068
01:16:25.260 --> 01:16:25.979
Anything's forgivable.

2069
01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:26.939
So you're kind of fresh.

2070
01:16:27.060 --> 01:16:30.720
Yeah, by the 70s, he's kind of just doing the same old crap.

2071
01:16:30.779 --> 01:16:31.739
It's been...

2072
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:33.239
It's Francis de Wolf, hasn't it?

2073
01:16:33.300 --> 01:16:34.140
isn't that his wolf?

2074
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:36.180
Francis Wolf.

2075
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:38.699
I'm James Bond's from Russia with Love.

2076
01:16:38.819 --> 01:16:42.239
And from the Tomorrow People's Slaves of Jedicar.

2077
01:16:42.300 --> 01:16:42.899
Yes, that's right.

2078
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:44.279
He's he's Jedakana.

2079
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:45.000
Jedekiah.

2080
01:16:45.060 --> 01:16:45.359
Yes.

2081
01:16:45.420 --> 01:16:48.060
So also some lovely backcoming.

2082
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:49.979
Everyone's trying to do Babs' hair in this story.

2083
01:16:50.100 --> 01:16:53.640
Terry Nation. a bit of a potty in, if you like that kind of

2084
01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:53.819
thing.

2085
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.000
Well, Stalin, if you like Stalin, he's great.

2086
01:16:57.420 --> 01:17:02.520
If you like being chased around the coffee table by some reeking

2087
01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:07.920
guy clad in furs who hasn't had a bath for a long time, he's

2088
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:08.279
gorgeous.

2089
01:17:08.460 --> 01:17:10.680
Well, it is almost Saturday.

2090
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:14.760
Oh, this is just...

2091
01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.760
I'm sorry.

2092
01:17:17.819 --> 01:17:20.579
I'd be saying, so you want to stay for coffee?

2093
01:17:20.819 --> 01:17:23.100
It is gorgeous.

2094
01:17:23.699 --> 01:17:26.760
It's actually John Richards, the writer about that.

2095
01:17:26.819 --> 01:17:27.899
This is really disturbing.

2096
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:29.460
It is, he...

2097
01:17:29.460 --> 01:17:33.000
Well, Richard, you do know that John Richards listens to it. very

2098
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:34.439
fond of...

2099
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:35.340
I am Vasor.

2100
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:36.359
Is that not Vaseline?

2101
01:17:36.420 --> 01:17:38.159
I should mention to...

2102
01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:39.600
He does not. things to do.

2103
01:17:39.659 --> 01:17:43.199
I should mention to the listeners that John Richards, who we're

2104
01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:46.920
discussing, works for the ABC, was one of the creat- he is hot.

2105
01:17:46.979 --> 01:17:50.819
He was one of the creators of Outland, which was about...

2106
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:53.819
My favourite, actually my favourite little lampoonie sci-fi thing

2107
01:17:53.819 --> 01:17:54.359
all time.

2108
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:58.020
It's the Futurama live action thing we never had.

2109
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:01.319
Yeah, it's a gay science fiction fan club, and especially Doctor

2110
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:01.920
Who fans.

2111
01:18:01.979 --> 01:18:05.100
But John Richard was also the driving force behind the Splendid

2112
01:18:05.100 --> 01:18:08.399
Chaps podcast, which was the inspiration for the entirety Todd

2113
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:08.939
over to you.

2114
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.220
We just had some educational thing there.

2115
01:18:11.699 --> 01:18:12.539
What happened to Frostbite?

2116
01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.060
putting our hands near the fire and actually just then just

2117
01:18:15.060 --> 01:18:15.659
rubbing them.

2118
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:17.819
Very useful for any...

2119
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:20.399
I think Vasor may have had...

2120
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:22.079
Ropey bacteria motive there.

2121
01:18:22.140 --> 01:18:24.899
As Nathan used to call it Barbara and Ian together.

2122
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.899
No, the thing is, I agree.

2123
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:30.600
I think that, um, Go on.

2124
01:18:30.659 --> 01:18:31.739
I don't know.

2125
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.500
Well, that is true about frostbite, that you shouldn't warm the

2126
01:18:34.500 --> 01:18:35.159
hands too quickly.

2127
01:18:35.220 --> 01:18:37.079
See, we are educational.

2128
01:18:37.140 --> 01:18:40.859
And because it's Barbara, it just comes across as natural.

2129
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:41.699
It's not.

2130
01:18:42.180 --> 01:18:43.199
Do you know, Susan?

2131
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:45.720
We still use the word hashashin in English today?

2132
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:50.819
Barbara's face just fucking covered that line.

2133
01:18:51.300 --> 01:18:53.699
The educational podcast.

2134
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.680
Oh, John Lucarate.

2135
01:18:55.739 --> 01:18:56.220
We love it.

2136
01:18:56.279 --> 01:19:01.020
There's actually nothing on Francis De Wolfe's face that actually

2137
01:19:01.020 --> 01:19:01.979
works together.

2138
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.039
You can play the Billy Piper thing. like, which is the most

2139
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:05.819
Yiddish?

2140
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.000
Is it the, the, there's that scary nose?

2141
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:11.279
No, it is actually No, I take that back.

2142
01:19:11.340 --> 01:19:13.380
It's actually, no, it's actually doing.

2143
01:19:13.500 --> 01:19:16.079
It's actually, it's actually style and fuzzy film.

2144
01:19:16.140 --> 01:19:19.979
Like what's the scariest thing is, yes, is it the scariest beard?

2145
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:21.659
Is the scary pointy nose?

2146
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:24.899
Is that the he's really ironing the way with a beard, isn't he?

2147
01:19:25.020 --> 01:19:26.579
There's nothing...

2148
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:32.159
Actually, I have, I have some European relatives that look not

2149
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:32.579
unlike.

2150
01:19:32.579 --> 01:19:33.840
Oh, he's just...

2151
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:34.979
That being...

2152
01:19:34.979 --> 01:19:37.500
Also, De Wolf, he's called De Wolf.

2153
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:38.640
You can't hold twat.

2154
01:19:38.699 --> 01:19:39.779
Come on. your real name?

2155
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:41.279
It's Gabriel De Wolf.

2156
01:19:41.340 --> 01:19:42.359
No, you're people.

2157
01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:43.920
Oh, Gabriel.

2158
01:19:43.979 --> 01:19:46.560
No, he was Gabriel Dubble.

2159
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:51.720
You just didn't see Nathan's hands gesture.

2160
01:19:51.779 --> 01:19:53.880
Oh, sure.

2161
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:55.439
She is the 5th podcaster after all.

2162
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:56.220
I'm allergic.

2163
01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:58.199
That's what you say.

2164
01:19:58.260 --> 01:20:00.840
Mary Tyler Moore, the Mary Tyler Moore show.

2165
01:20:00.899 --> 01:20:04.560
Mary gets Soutex Frock. she?

2166
01:20:04.619 --> 01:20:06.600
Oh, that's going up on the page.

2167
01:20:07.260 --> 01:20:07.920
Put that up there.

2168
01:20:07.979 --> 01:20:09.779
Yes, she actually does wear.

2169
01:20:10.619 --> 01:20:13.020
Yeah, she looks like Suitech.

2170
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:15.420
And the thing is...

2171
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:18.359
The screen grabs I managed to get, she's giving people side eyes

2172
01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:20.039
as you would imagine.

2173
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:21.539
And they're glowing green.

2174
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:22.319
Not side boobs.

2175
01:20:22.380 --> 01:20:22.979
Sorry, Jack.

2176
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:24.720
Oh, James.

2177
01:20:24.779 --> 01:20:26.579
What is Ian wearing right now?

2178
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:30.300
Or something that's going to keep his body warm, but his hands are

2179
01:20:30.300 --> 01:20:31.140
just going to drop off.

2180
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:35.220
Well, the thing is, I'm more worried about Altos's legs, actually

2181
01:20:35.220 --> 01:20:36.300
in this episode.

2182
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:37.439
Are you really?

2183
01:20:37.500 --> 01:20:40.800
I think you might be really pleasantly surprised shortly because

2184
01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:41.399
they might...

2185
01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.439
Is there a way of keeping it warm?

2186
01:20:43.500 --> 01:20:44.699
Oh, there is, there is.

2187
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:45.779
Elevate them?

2188
01:20:46.500 --> 01:20:48.359
Hello, mate.

2189
01:20:48.420 --> 01:20:50.220
Elevate.

2190
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:51.659
Oh, did you see the log?

2191
01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:52.439
Aviate.

2192
01:20:52.500 --> 01:20:54.119
Oh, Christ.

2193
01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:56.039
Oh, we just did the locky thing.

2194
01:20:56.100 --> 01:21:00.960
Okay, how many times in 2 years does Barbara get raped?

2195
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:02.279
rapey, rapey eyes.

2196
01:21:02.340 --> 01:21:04.380
Not quite as often.

2197
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:06.840
No, thanks, Eric, say a word.

2198
01:21:06.899 --> 01:21:07.380
Yeah.

2199
01:21:07.380 --> 01:21:10.739
God, she's really going to hate you right now.

2200
01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:13.739
Yeah, why does it, why are you in 20 years?

2201
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:16.079
Oh, oh, there's...

2202
01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:17.399
How does she get rape threats?

2203
01:21:17.460 --> 01:21:19.619
It is really only this and then...

2204
01:21:19.619 --> 01:21:21.300
This, an unearthly child?

2205
01:21:21.420 --> 01:21:22.979
Oh, okay.

2206
01:21:22.979 --> 01:21:24.899
Look, here we go.

2207
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:27.359
Crusade.

2208
01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:28.859
It's a hilarious race.

2209
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:30.000
That's right.

2210
01:21:30.060 --> 01:21:31.500
Oh, and the Crusade, of course.

2211
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:32.640
So 4 times.

2212
01:21:32.699 --> 01:21:35.520
Oh, he's his hands are bound.

2213
01:21:35.579 --> 01:21:36.420
Well, you know what?

2214
01:21:37.260 --> 01:21:40.140
I think with Vaseol living up in the mountain, He doesn't really

2215
01:21:40.140 --> 01:21:41.699
mind whether you're a boy or a girl.

2216
01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:42.659
He's lonely.

2217
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:45.479
And look, I actually think some of those skins on the wall didn't

2218
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:46.920
have an easy time getting up there.

2219
01:21:46.979 --> 01:21:49.020
Are they really?

2220
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:50.340
No, really?

2221
01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:51.840
Well, we'd say no.

2222
01:21:51.899 --> 01:21:55.859
Well, I find his, I find his bedside manner quite charming.

2223
01:21:55.920 --> 01:21:57.239
And his musk.

2224
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:00.479
For the listener at home.

2225
01:22:00.539 --> 01:22:01.140
That's a glam.

2226
01:22:01.260 --> 01:22:05.340
I will just say it is hard to tenderise your venison when you're

2227
01:22:05.340 --> 01:22:08.699
this high up in the mountains, so...

2228
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:09.600
That's it.

2229
01:22:10.500 --> 01:22:12.239
I have no problem.

2230
01:22:13.380 --> 01:22:16.439
He's been he's like Unique, but he owns 5 Apple watchers.

2231
01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:17.880
Sabita's chain.

2232
01:22:17.939 --> 01:22:19.140
How does he have?

2233
01:22:19.140 --> 01:22:19.800
Where did you get?

2234
01:22:19.859 --> 01:22:20.579
of the keys.

2235
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:23.399
Well, he doesn't have 5 of the keys, but he has 4 of the travel

2236
01:22:23.399 --> 01:22:24.000
dials.

2237
01:22:25.500 --> 01:22:28.079
There's nothing sexy about him.

2238
01:22:28.140 --> 01:22:30.960
He's like an evil, creepy Santa.

2239
01:22:31.020 --> 01:22:34.260
He's like he's like Joe Hockey and John Howard had a baby.

2240
01:22:34.380 --> 01:22:38.220
Yeah, and he was coming after you. around the coffee table.

2241
01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:41.159
And oh, with that thought deal listener, they just went back

2242
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:41.520
inside.

2243
01:22:41.699 --> 01:22:46.680
He just looks like the reason most of those Povo countries in

2244
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.260
Europe aren't allowed into the ECC.

2245
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:51.060
So, Eurovision, though.

2246
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:51.899
Eurovision, that's fine.

2247
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:54.180
Can we talk about something slightly triggering?

2248
01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:58.260
Because this is sort of problematic with the...

2249
01:22:58.260 --> 01:22:59.279
Lovely war texture.

2250
01:22:59.340 --> 01:23:00.300
Is that what you talking about?

2251
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.840
We did talk about it when we originally covered this episode and

2252
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:07.020
it isn't something that Doctor Who does again.

2253
01:23:07.079 --> 01:23:11.039
Well, it's it's almost as bad in the crusade.

2254
01:23:11.100 --> 01:23:13.979
It's not quite, it's not quite as violent in the television.

2255
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:17.880
This is the most immediate until Perry is seduced by a slug.

2256
01:23:17.939 --> 01:23:18.779
Yes.

2257
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:19.319
Yes.

2258
01:23:19.380 --> 01:23:20.100
Sorry.

2259
01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:22.979
But even then, this is this is possibly...

2260
01:23:22.979 --> 01:23:24.060
And you're Canos.

2261
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.479
I was going to say, sorry about that, Brian Blessed, but I mean, it

2262
01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:32.399
is until that, it's, this is actually an entire, this is a

2263
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:33.479
seduction scene.

2264
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:37.859
No, this is a, it's a one-sided...

2265
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:41.699
It is awful, but the thing is they're not not playing it.

2266
01:23:41.819 --> 01:23:43.319
Hey, here we go.

2267
01:23:43.380 --> 01:23:45.840
And on the other hand, in this seduction scene.

2268
01:23:47.579 --> 01:23:49.319
How are your legs?

2269
01:23:49.380 --> 01:23:53.279
There's also bad stuff happens in the time meddler as well, doesn't

2270
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:53.460
it?

2271
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:54.659
That's very true.

2272
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:56.039
Oh, yeah, yeah.

2273
01:23:56.100 --> 01:23:57.300
But I'm in a regular character.

2274
01:23:57.359 --> 01:23:58.859
I mean, what's her face?

2275
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:00.600
What's her name?

2276
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:01.439
Richard Franklin.

2277
01:24:01.500 --> 01:24:02.159
Yeah, yeah.

2278
01:24:02.220 --> 01:24:06.600
Richard Franklin, in the time Medler, who does get a horny cow

2279
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:06.960
hat.

2280
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:10.859
No, she gets like totally kind of ravished and stuff and then is

2281
01:24:10.859 --> 01:24:13.020
up making everyone tea the following episode.

2282
01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:15.600
It is awful. pretty much.

2283
01:24:15.659 --> 01:24:16.079
Yeah.

2284
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:19.199
I think the important thing is, oh, it's given him...

2285
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:24.119
I give I totally had that when I was in Seoul.

2286
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:25.020
Did you?

2287
01:24:25.020 --> 01:24:26.699
Actually, I thought it was so cool.

2288
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:28.319
You know, you know what?

2289
01:24:28.380 --> 01:24:32.159
The wrestlers are doing the coat check at a dance party later this

2290
01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:34.439
year, and I'm sure there'll be men carrying around bags of meat.

2291
01:24:34.500 --> 01:24:35.640
At least that's how I understand it.

2292
01:24:35.699 --> 01:24:39.840
But no, the, the, the, the, do listener, if you care to attend.

2293
01:24:39.899 --> 01:24:44.039
The thing is, with this scene with Barbara and...

2294
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.020
And the sequence...

2295
01:24:46.020 --> 01:24:46.560
This is awful.

2296
01:24:46.619 --> 01:24:47.640
Yeah, it is.

2297
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:51.180
Barbara is actually really realising that her personal disposition

2298
01:24:51.180 --> 01:24:53.819
is about to be inflanged and it's not a good thing.

2299
01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:57.060
No, no, but it's I'm in no hurry, he said, but really.

2300
01:24:57.060 --> 01:25:02.159
It's important that it is portrayed, it's, in a way, it's

2301
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:04.739
important that it's portrayed warts and all. not portrayed as a

2302
01:25:04.739 --> 01:25:04.920
joke.

2303
01:25:04.979 --> 01:25:07.079
I'm sorry, did you just say wars?

2304
01:25:07.140 --> 01:25:10.020
No, no, but I still have a problem with it being family

2305
01:25:10.020 --> 01:25:10.920
entertainment.

2306
01:25:10.979 --> 01:25:12.600
Yes, that's also...

2307
01:25:12.659 --> 01:25:15.000
Well, I know I love that you get the duality.

2308
01:25:15.060 --> 01:25:16.199
There's something for the grown-ups.

2309
01:25:16.260 --> 01:25:17.100
The kids wouldn't even notice.

2310
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:18.119
No, no.

2311
01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:20.939
You know, as a kid, I didn't pick up. you wouldn't pick up on it.

2312
01:25:20.939 --> 01:25:23.220
As an adult, this is really awful.

2313
01:25:23.340 --> 01:25:24.359
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2314
01:25:24.420 --> 01:25:27.300
But I love the Doctor Who can do adult entertainment.

2315
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:28.619
It isn't a kids' show.

2316
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.119
He wants her hair.

2317
01:25:30.539 --> 01:25:37.859
He is a monster and she is fabulous and also, why would he have

2318
01:25:37.859 --> 01:25:38.640
paused at that point?

2319
01:25:38.699 --> 01:25:43.260
But no, this is actually one of the most powerful. the most

2320
01:25:43.260 --> 01:25:43.739
powerful.

2321
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:46.020
Yeah, yeah, yeah. the most powerful.

2322
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:47.340
Yeah, yeah, Ian.

2323
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:50.880
The most powerful scene in Doctor Who, possibly of all time.

2324
01:25:50.939 --> 01:25:53.579
But she should have pushed him into the fire, though.

2325
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.699
Well, that's what you and I will done, but that's because we're

2326
01:25:56.699 --> 01:25:57.300
like that.

2327
01:25:57.359 --> 01:25:59.640
But the thing the thing with Barbara is.

2328
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:04.619
Barbara, I don't think ever takes a life even when her own is

2329
01:26:04.619 --> 01:26:05.100
threatened.

2330
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:05.939
No, she doesn't.

2331
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:07.619
Not like Nathan and Richard.

2332
01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:09.840
And unlike Nathan and Richard.

2333
01:26:09.899 --> 01:26:13.380
Well, Todd just kills them before...

2334
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:15.960
Todd just kills me before he enters the room.

2335
01:26:16.020 --> 01:26:16.560
Yeah.

2336
01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.260
And and me, he hates everything.

2337
01:26:19.380 --> 01:26:21.600
And, you know, me.

2338
01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:23.460
Look, when the stress gets changed.

2339
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.279
Also, also, hello, Sappho.

2340
01:26:26.340 --> 01:26:26.819
Hello.

2341
01:26:27.779 --> 01:26:30.000
Sappho and Sabitha.

2342
01:26:30.060 --> 01:26:30.479
Yes.

2343
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:32.579
It was a great cop show, wasn't it?

2344
01:26:32.699 --> 01:26:35.100
Look, you know, when the Australian...

2345
01:26:35.100 --> 01:26:36.899
This is like the moment Louise here.

2346
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:39.659
Where's the fricking cliff when you need it?

2347
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:39.960
Okay.

2348
01:26:40.020 --> 01:26:44.699
I'm so, it's just awful in this and I love her and she's still

2349
01:26:44.699 --> 01:26:45.060
awful.

2350
01:26:45.180 --> 01:26:47.100
The problem is she's catching.

2351
01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:48.840
It's very beautiful.

2352
01:26:48.899 --> 01:26:49.560
She is.

2353
01:26:49.619 --> 01:26:51.000
What are you trying to say?

2354
01:26:51.060 --> 01:26:57.060
She's very unique, but I just think she looks really unique.

2355
01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:02.100
You know, sort of like, she has a beauty about her, but can...

2356
01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:05.159
Oh, you're just being blonde centric because you're lovely and

2357
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:05.819
blonde yourself.

2358
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:08.880
The thing is, they They also haven't given Carol...

2359
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.100
They haven't given Carol a great one costume in this.

2360
01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:14.819
One is swinging 60s and the other one's set back in the 50s.

2361
01:27:15.060 --> 01:27:16.859
Look, you know what?

2362
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:22.140
We have we have received a notion of what Caroline Ford's acting

2363
01:27:22.140 --> 01:27:22.500
is like.

2364
01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:24.960
She's actually no worse or better than anybody else on screen

2365
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:25.439
right now.

2366
01:27:25.500 --> 01:27:29.340
No, and only there's only can only be one Jacqueline Hill, like

2367
01:27:29.340 --> 01:27:31.140
there's only one son at the centre of the system.

2368
01:27:31.260 --> 01:27:34.680
You know, I've been thinking about a lot about Susan's character

2369
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:41.340
recently because I've been asked to write an essay on the Dalek

2370
01:27:41.340 --> 01:27:43.380
Invasion of Earth and how that changes the series.

2371
01:27:43.380 --> 01:27:45.300
And I've always said that I prefer, doesn't it?

2372
01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:46.380
I prefer Vicky to Susan.

2373
01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:50.939
And I think the essential reason is, as I said, in episode one of

2374
01:27:50.939 --> 01:27:53.699
this commentary, I have no problem with Carol Anne's performance

2375
01:27:53.699 --> 01:27:56.819
and I think she gives a wonderful performance with really often

2376
01:27:56.819 --> 01:27:58.020
quite poor material.

2377
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:01.800
I think the problem is the material makes her character into a

2378
01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:02.460
pessimist.

2379
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:04.800
And this is...

2380
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:08.640
And Ian and Barbara, even though they're stolen away from home

2381
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:11.880
they're often quite enthusiastic about my thing, isn't she, the

2382
01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:12.180
whole time?

2383
01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:14.880
Whereas Vicki is...

2384
01:28:14.939 --> 01:28:16.560
Davidson's 1st memory, kids.

2385
01:28:16.619 --> 01:28:18.180
Yes, yes, that's right.

2386
01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:22.260
But yeah, it was actually born during this very, very...

2387
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.239
But like you said, Speak it out right now.

2388
01:28:24.300 --> 01:28:26.279
Vicky is excited to be there.

2389
01:28:26.340 --> 01:28:26.880
Exactly.

2390
01:28:26.939 --> 01:28:28.560
Makes a big difference.

2391
01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:29.760
What were you saying, son?

2392
01:28:29.819 --> 01:28:32.460
No, I was just getting back to the action on screen.

2393
01:28:32.579 --> 01:28:34.859
We were going across this rope bridge.

2394
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:37.920
I think it's better than what did they spend a whole episode

2395
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:39.720
jumping across in the dead planet?

2396
01:28:39.779 --> 01:28:40.380
Like, you know?

2397
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:40.859
Yeah.

2398
01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:42.600
They've improved things a bit.

2399
01:28:42.659 --> 01:28:44.340
By adding a bridge?

2400
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:45.539
Bridge creaking.

2401
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.399
That's made it across.

2402
01:28:47.460 --> 01:28:49.439
That's no way to describe Catherine Saltville.

2403
01:28:50.579 --> 01:28:54.359
It's like, yeah, literally, they could have...

2404
01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:56.699
This is 1964 and blink and you've missed that.

2405
01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.859
Yeah, they're doing very well.

2406
01:28:58.859 --> 01:29:00.300
I think it's amazing.

2407
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.180
Why are they some...

2408
01:29:03.180 --> 01:29:05.699
Yeah, there's a lot of...

2409
01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:10.199
Why are we suddenly all chummy with... or the raby guy?

2410
01:29:10.260 --> 01:29:13.199
He needs to go down this chasm into nothing.

2411
01:29:13.260 --> 01:29:14.640
I actually can't remember what happens to him.

2412
01:29:14.699 --> 01:29:19.920
Do you think he actually becomes a famous men's rights activist or

2413
01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:21.479
joins gamer gate or something?

2414
01:29:21.539 --> 01:29:22.859
What's happening to him?

2415
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:23.640
He already is.

2416
01:29:23.699 --> 01:29:25.739
Do you know this show's called Doctor Who?

2417
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.140
I'd forgotten that the doctor wasn't in.

2418
01:29:28.260 --> 01:29:31.079
Actually, how long has it been since we've seen Billy?

2419
01:29:31.140 --> 01:29:33.960
This is his 2nd episode. his 2nd week off.

2420
01:29:34.020 --> 01:29:37.079
And we just missed a bit where there was more footage missing when

2421
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:40.260
Barbara went across the bridge, so they reversed a little bit of

2422
01:29:40.260 --> 01:29:41.760
footage of Ian and Vasor.

2423
01:29:42.659 --> 01:29:45.720
They look like Barbara when you're averse them?

2424
01:29:45.779 --> 01:29:48.300
Well, you see, what happens is they keep Barbara walking across

2425
01:29:48.300 --> 01:29:51.479
the bridge while they reverse the right hand side of the frame.

2426
01:29:51.539 --> 01:29:56.939
It's very clever I just can't believe that his legs are...

2427
01:29:57.060 --> 01:29:58.140
You bad guy.

2428
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:01.319
Well, also, kind of nice calves.

2429
01:30:01.380 --> 01:30:02.340
You're all stupid.

2430
01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:05.579
They're stupid.

2431
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:09.779
I'm about to guest star in the biggest show of all time, the

2432
01:30:09.779 --> 01:30:10.800
tomorrow people.

2433
01:30:10.859 --> 01:30:14.460
I've only got to sit on this shelf for 10 years and I'll be a

2434
01:30:14.460 --> 01:30:14.699
star.

2435
01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:17.640
Todd, what was that you were saying about Robin Phillips' legs?

2436
01:30:17.699 --> 01:30:19.439
I believe.

2437
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:21.659
Three episodes later?

2438
01:30:21.659 --> 01:30:22.920
Get warm.

2439
01:30:22.979 --> 01:30:26.100
They must be impervious to cold.

2440
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:29.039
Well, Todd, if you put your legs down for a moment, the rest of us

2441
01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:30.119
could watch this.

2442
01:30:30.180 --> 01:30:32.220
Now, just jealous.

2443
01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:35.640
Now, the thing is, this is a connection I'm going to make, but

2444
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:38.880
some listeners may make, but I don't think any of any of you will

2445
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:39.239
make.

2446
01:30:39.300 --> 01:30:41.399
At the same time, I 1st watched this as a child.

2447
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:45.479
I had a rather wonderful game, which has often come top of game

2448
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:47.760
video games of all timeless.

2449
01:30:47.819 --> 01:30:48.600
What do you think this is going?

2450
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:51.840
The legend, the legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time.

2451
01:30:51.899 --> 01:30:52.560
Oh, yes.

2452
01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:54.180
Which it has an idea.

2453
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:55.380
I hated those things.

2454
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:56.760
I don't even know what he's talking about.

2455
01:30:56.819 --> 01:30:57.420
I want watch this.

2456
01:30:57.479 --> 01:30:58.079
You blow this.

2457
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:00.300
Sorry, the famous girl. blow into them, girl.

2458
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:01.560
It has an ice cave.

2459
01:31:01.619 --> 01:31:02.939
Oh stop it.

2460
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:07.319
And, you know, so this is computer graphics in 1996 looks every

2461
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:08.460
bit as good as this set.

2462
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:10.859
Yeah, that's not really flattering either.

2463
01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:16.619
Have you signed up for the new Mario game on the iPhone?

2464
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:18.539
I didn't know you could sign up yet.

2465
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:19.199
Can you sign up yet?

2466
01:31:19.260 --> 01:31:20.579
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2467
01:31:20.939 --> 01:31:22.199
For the Doctor Who fans at home.

2468
01:31:22.260 --> 01:31:24.300
Are you talking about Nintendo?

2469
01:31:24.359 --> 01:31:26.100
What, it's a new Susan Foreman game.

2470
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:27.180
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2471
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:32.220
You just sit there and just grimace at the screen. panic about a

2472
01:31:32.220 --> 01:31:34.560
bunch of stuff This is Peter Davis.

2473
01:31:34.619 --> 01:31:35.760
You can't possibly do things.

2474
01:31:35.819 --> 01:31:37.199
Hello, Doctor Who.

2475
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:39.420
There's a rant, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to have my head

2476
01:31:39.420 --> 01:31:40.020
cut off.

2477
01:31:40.140 --> 01:31:42.479
Ship over a non-existent bush.

2478
01:31:42.539 --> 01:31:44.039
Nathan such a hater.

2479
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:48.600
This is Peter Davidson's 1st memory of Doctor Who.

2480
01:31:48.659 --> 01:31:49.560
Yes, it is.

2481
01:31:49.619 --> 01:31:52.199
He was 46 when he 1st saw this.

2482
01:31:53.100 --> 01:31:57.600
I'm still I'm still just imagining the Susan Foreman go app.

2483
01:31:57.659 --> 01:32:03.060
So there's buttons for B-Maudalen, Scream, Telequit.

2484
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:06.779
Telecommunication, quit, be sacked.

2485
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:07.680
B-Sack.

2486
01:32:07.739 --> 01:32:08.220
Oh sorry.

2487
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:09.119
Quit.

2488
01:32:09.180 --> 01:32:10.500
That's our story isn't it?

2489
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:11.279
sticking with it.

2490
01:32:11.340 --> 01:32:12.720
Not actually grand.

2491
01:32:12.779 --> 01:32:13.380
So she was fired.

2492
01:32:13.500 --> 01:32:15.000
No, she wasn't. wasn't fired.

2493
01:32:15.060 --> 01:32:15.960
Well, come on.

2494
01:32:16.020 --> 01:32:19.560
No, well, look, verity.

2495
01:32:19.619 --> 01:32:21.479
Carol Anne...

2496
01:32:21.539 --> 01:32:23.699
William Russell all said she wasn't fired.

2497
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:26.760
So I, I, have you ever heard anyone say she was fine?

2498
01:32:26.819 --> 01:32:28.140
No, I know.

2499
01:32:28.140 --> 01:32:29.819
Nathan said she was doing fine.

2500
01:32:29.880 --> 01:32:30.300
Yeah.

2501
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:31.859
No, it was ever fine.

2502
01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:33.119
Not even Tom.

2503
01:32:33.180 --> 01:32:34.319
Not even Tom.

2504
01:32:34.380 --> 01:32:37.199
Even after that drunken interview on nationwide.

2505
01:32:37.260 --> 01:32:38.460
Sue Lawley.

2506
01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:42.420
I'm just remembering that time, Richard, when I suggested

2507
01:32:42.420 --> 01:32:45.239
publishing transcripts of the podcast and you said, but I make so

2508
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:45.899
many things up.

2509
01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:49.800
I do. make a bunch of stuff up.

2510
01:32:49.859 --> 01:32:52.680
I particularly remember one, but I'm not going to mention it

2511
01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:56.699
because a friend of the podcast, Stephen Wood actually emailed me

2512
01:32:56.699 --> 01:32:58.140
and said, I didn't know that was true.

2513
01:32:58.199 --> 01:32:59.699
I just wrote back.

2514
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:00.420
Yes.

2515
01:33:00.539 --> 01:33:01.260
Which one?

2516
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:02.340
It might be true.

2517
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:06.479
I think I think during one early podcast, I think that you

2518
01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:09.300
claim...

2519
01:33:09.300 --> 01:33:10.739
I think you claim...

2520
01:33:10.739 --> 01:33:11.460
And he really is.

2521
01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:14.880
No, but I think you claimed that Derek Ware was Colin Baker's

2522
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:15.180
father.

2523
01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:16.439
He was, yeah.

2524
01:33:16.500 --> 01:33:18.060
All know that.

2525
01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:19.800
They're rubbing sticks together.

2526
01:33:19.859 --> 01:33:20.939
What could possibly go wrong?

2527
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.039
They're rubbing Altos's legs together.

2528
01:33:23.100 --> 01:33:24.840
Well, same thing.

2529
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:28.140
Oh, God, I can't believe we're not still doing that.

2530
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:30.539
They're all going to, speaking of Derek, where they're all going

2531
01:33:30.539 --> 01:33:36.060
to get... ice cracking Altos size.

2532
01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:37.199
Ian Granton.

2533
01:33:37.260 --> 01:33:38.819
In grunching.

2534
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:42.000
Oh, look, Al just pulled his pants down there just to cover...

2535
01:33:42.060 --> 01:33:42.539
It's a lady.

2536
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:43.140
Of course he would.

2537
01:33:43.739 --> 01:33:47.880
This is, you know, I can see why Peter Davidson wanted to be the

2538
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:50.159
doctor just from this episode, wouldn't you?

2539
01:33:50.220 --> 01:33:53.939
It's very cold, but imagine if Scorpia had been wearing those

2540
01:33:53.939 --> 01:33:54.539
pants.

2541
01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:57.359
He was the Captain Peacock all the time.

2542
01:33:57.420 --> 01:34:00.539
You know, I do wonder if mobly.

2543
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:01.619
We should explain that.

2544
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:06.600
Scorbi from, um, Scissor Boom is now Captain Peacock in the

2545
01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:07.500
new...

2546
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:13.380
I've seen that episode so many times and I didn't even realise the

2547
01:34:13.380 --> 01:34:15.180
most exciting thing about John Chalice.

2548
01:34:15.300 --> 01:34:15.720
It is.

2549
01:34:15.779 --> 01:34:17.399
What did you think of it?

2550
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:18.300
This isn't.

2551
01:34:18.300 --> 01:34:21.239
I actually found it the most exciting thing of all time.

2552
01:34:21.300 --> 01:34:22.979
For God's sake, just kill both of the girls.

2553
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:24.420
I love new.

2554
01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.359
I want a whole series of audio being so based on that.

2555
01:34:27.420 --> 01:34:28.439
I really want it.

2556
01:34:28.500 --> 01:34:30.779
It's got our own Nicky Wardley.

2557
01:34:30.779 --> 01:34:34.199
From 8th doctor episodes of Doctor Who or whatever.

2558
01:34:34.260 --> 01:34:37.680
She's a companion in the Big Finish, as Miss France.

2559
01:34:37.739 --> 01:34:38.340
Tamzin.

2560
01:34:38.460 --> 01:34:40.979
She's in the big finished audio.

2561
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.560
Yeah, so, yeah, Miss Brahms, he is Tamzin from the doctor.

2562
01:34:43.619 --> 01:34:45.060
Thank you, Brendan.

2563
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:46.859
Corby. going home to watch that.

2564
01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:48.420
She plays Scorpion, the Doctor Who...

2565
01:34:48.539 --> 01:34:51.060
Do you know as we as we record?

2566
01:34:51.180 --> 01:34:53.819
Well, Susan's about to do something terribly bright.

2567
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:55.979
In a gong suit, as Katie Manning.

2568
01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:57.960
She was the Katie Manning all the time.

2569
01:34:58.020 --> 01:35:00.119
She was actually just as Katie Manning in that she's wearing

2570
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:00.539
sheep.

2571
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:06.000
Now, yeah, I, you know, As a New Zealander. also, also, Carol

2572
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:09.840
Anne's looking really great. you know, with the whole kind of, I'm

2573
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:11.760
cranky and I'm about to do something stupid look.

2574
01:35:11.819 --> 01:35:17.399
She's doing what we will later, and Barry, let's will later credit

2575
01:35:17.399 --> 01:35:20.460
Elizabeth Sladen for doing so well in that she's doing something

2576
01:35:20.460 --> 01:35:22.380
very brave and being scared at the same time.

2577
01:35:22.439 --> 01:35:24.960
I think you're going to say brave, brave and very stupid.

2578
01:35:25.020 --> 01:35:28.500
Very brave and being a panicky idiot as usual.

2579
01:35:28.619 --> 01:35:31.260
And Altos just called her fat.

2580
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:32.760
He said it'll never take away.

2581
01:35:32.819 --> 01:35:35.699
Do you realise she's meant to be playing a 17 year old girl?

2582
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:36.899
What did you just say?

2583
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:38.640
We're allowed to say that.

2584
01:35:38.699 --> 01:35:41.399
She's playing a 17-year-old girl.

2585
01:35:41.460 --> 01:35:44.760
Do you know any 17 year old girls who are emotionally reliable?

2586
01:35:44.819 --> 01:35:45.600
I'll just put it out.

2587
01:35:45.659 --> 01:35:46.260
Yes.

2588
01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:47.100
Who?

2589
01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:48.180
Apart from yourself, who?

2590
01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:50.699
They're a 17 year old.

2591
01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:52.199
Yeah, girls who are not...

2592
01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:55.800
Also, that bit of luck looks like a willy.

2593
01:35:55.859 --> 01:35:57.000
I thought it looked like a horse.

2594
01:35:57.060 --> 01:35:58.260
No, look, it's moving.

2595
01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:00.119
It's a big, oh, it's broken now.

2596
01:36:00.180 --> 01:36:01.739
I see the horse, Todd.

2597
01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:03.000
I just saw the Willie.

2598
01:36:03.060 --> 01:36:05.279
I was actually thinking Willie as well.

2599
01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:07.439
No, one a piece, Davis, I wanted a bit off.

2600
01:36:07.500 --> 01:36:08.640
And what's she climbing across?

2601
01:36:08.699 --> 01:36:09.779
This is really rude.

2602
01:36:09.899 --> 01:36:13.439
There was so ice cracking and lots of bottoms in this.

2603
01:36:13.500 --> 01:36:14.640
She's made it.

2604
01:36:14.699 --> 01:36:15.779
There are two.

2605
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:18.180
They're lovely.

2606
01:36:18.180 --> 01:36:20.159
Jacqueline Hill is not impressed by her bum.

2607
01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:23.939
And there's the title of the end.

2608
01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.399
There are 2 types of people in this world, aren't they, Todd?

2609
01:36:26.460 --> 01:36:28.979
Oh, we're going to go across the bridge.

2610
01:36:29.100 --> 01:36:32.819
What was it that Peter Davidson found so captivating that he had

2611
01:36:32.819 --> 01:36:33.600
to star in the show?

2612
01:36:33.659 --> 01:36:34.439
He was very young.

2613
01:36:34.500 --> 01:36:37.800
And actually, there are a lot of, yeah, no, he was 46%.

2614
01:36:37.859 --> 01:36:39.960
There are a lot of similarities to terminus here.

2615
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:42.300
And that it's unwatchable.

2616
01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:44.220
So, yep, what have we had?

2617
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:46.500
We've had front bottom crack.

2618
01:36:46.619 --> 01:36:46.859
What?

2619
01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:50.579
We've had the 1st 13 episodes with the Daleks and all of that sort

2620
01:36:50.579 --> 01:36:50.880
of thing.

2621
01:36:50.939 --> 01:36:52.800
We've had dressing from the left there.

2622
01:36:52.859 --> 01:36:55.979
And then we've had Marco Polo and we've had...

2623
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:58.560
This is what I heard.

2624
01:36:58.619 --> 01:37:03.180
This is essentially Terry Nations like 10th or 11th episode of the

2625
01:37:03.180 --> 01:37:03.539
program.

2626
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:06.300
It's his royal command performance.

2627
01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:07.560
He's written more than everybody else.

2628
01:37:07.619 --> 01:37:12.479
But he's actually already written an entire episode in the Daleks

2629
01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:17.039
where all everyone does is like go across a chasm.

2630
01:37:17.100 --> 01:37:19.319
Yeah, and then like he's run out of here.

2631
01:37:19.380 --> 01:37:22.380
I'm gonna have to do another hole going across a chasm episode.

2632
01:37:22.439 --> 01:37:26.220
We're back and now we're going to go and we're going to leave you

2633
01:37:26.220 --> 01:37:27.659
to your brand new friends.

2634
01:37:28.260 --> 01:37:31.560
How come they're all getting on with rapey vasil now?

2635
01:37:31.619 --> 01:37:33.180
No, no, they're not made up.

2636
01:37:33.239 --> 01:37:35.699
They're just, they're just taking their stuff back from him.

2637
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:36.539
They're coming.

2638
01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:38.699
Well, bad luck, man.

2639
01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:39.899
But what are they going to do?

2640
01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:41.159
Is he going to be eaten by wolves?

2641
01:37:41.220 --> 01:37:44.880
No, oh, he's going to be my favourite moment by the things.

2642
01:37:44.939 --> 01:37:46.380
No, this is my favourite moment.

2643
01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:47.880
They said, oh, I'll have it gone.

2644
01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:50.460
Look at her face.

2645
01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:52.560
Yeah, well, that's...

2646
01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:52.979
Get off him.

2647
01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:53.579
She's tired.

2648
01:37:53.579 --> 01:37:56.699
Get away from T. She's not doing panicky idiot there.

2649
01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:58.439
She's doing...

2650
01:37:58.500 --> 01:38:01.260
Ow, ow, ow.

2651
01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:05.819
You stabbed me in my stab wound.

2652
01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:06.960
No, you just don't.

2653
01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:09.659
Yeah, they...

2654
01:38:09.659 --> 01:38:13.020
I've tried, and you can't kill someone with just one step.

2655
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:16.260
You know, when the pressure gets too much at work, I just slip out

2656
01:38:16.260 --> 01:38:17.939
into the night and take a single human life.

2657
01:38:20.340 --> 01:38:23.100
Have you noticed that James isn't in this?

2658
01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:24.899
Meanwhile, in episode five?

2659
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:26.760
Someone's sleeping.

2660
01:38:26.819 --> 01:38:32.220
I just love that they're in a museum with all the, no, actually, I

2661
01:38:32.220 --> 01:38:33.659
would, no, save it.

2662
01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:34.920
Hey, what's this?

2663
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:37.560
Okay, Richard, that looks like a peanut.

2664
01:38:37.619 --> 01:38:39.659
Are you allowed to say that, Nathan?

2665
01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:40.260
Yeah, yeah.

2666
01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:41.640
He's been struck by a penis.

2667
01:38:41.699 --> 01:38:42.779
What's this show called?

2668
01:38:42.899 --> 01:38:43.680
What?

2669
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:44.460
Doctor Who?

2670
01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:45.119
Who's that?

2671
01:38:46.140 --> 01:38:48.960
Yeah, it's Billy's had 2 weeks off.

2672
01:38:49.020 --> 01:38:51.420
So he'll be back next week.

2673
01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:54.000
What are you trying to say?

2674
01:38:54.060 --> 01:38:57.239
Because I'm actually feeling that this is an episode of May Grey

2675
01:38:57.239 --> 01:38:58.020
or one of those.

2676
01:38:58.140 --> 01:38:59.460
No, seriously.

2677
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:02.159
Or early, very early Avengers.

2678
01:39:02.279 --> 01:39:05.399
This is really feeling like, because it's pretty much live

2679
01:39:05.399 --> 01:39:05.939
action.

2680
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:11.039
Okay, it was pre-recorded, but they played it and shot it and

2681
01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:15.420
acted it as if it was live to air because you really didn't get a

2682
01:39:15.420 --> 01:39:18.779
retake unless you said something along the lines of the things

2683
01:39:18.779 --> 01:39:21.899
that Nathan says. not actually allowed to.

2684
01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:25.260
You're not allowed to sentence to death, which is what I'm going

2685
01:39:25.260 --> 01:39:26.399
to get if I keep this up.

2686
01:39:26.460 --> 01:39:29.159
That's what Terry Nation often writes.

2687
01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:32.760
I hope, dear listener, that you're also drinking, watching this

2688
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:34.199
because there's no other way to watch this.

2689
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:36.300
It's the sentence of death.

2690
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:39.779
Look at all these marvellous people, all their fabulous careers

2691
01:39:39.779 --> 01:39:41.220
are about to unfold for.

2692
01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:44.399
How many of them still alive?

2693
01:39:44.460 --> 01:39:45.960
No, because they're not alive.

2694
01:39:46.020 --> 01:39:46.439
Same difference.

2695
01:39:46.500 --> 01:39:47.100
Terrible.

2696
01:39:47.100 --> 01:39:50.939
It's a mercy killing.

2697
01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:52.199
But, you know, the rest of them.

2698
01:39:52.260 --> 01:39:53.819
I think, do you know, I think they're all dead.

2699
01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:56.640
I think from the cast that may be about it.

2700
01:39:56.699 --> 01:39:59.579
Catherine Schofield may still be with us, who is Sabitha?

2701
01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:00.899
What about John Gory?

2702
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:02.520
You know, we were talking about some...

2703
01:40:03.060 --> 01:40:05.100
Are you being served and the remmate?

2704
01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:06.119
What else would you talk about?

2705
01:40:06.180 --> 01:40:09.359
Everyone's from Are you being served as dead?

2706
01:40:09.420 --> 01:40:14.100
Every single Captain Peacock died at the age of 92 in 2000 and

2707
01:40:14.100 --> 01:40:14.460
blah.

2708
01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:16.500
And it's like the western front, isn't it?

2709
01:40:16.619 --> 01:40:18.060
And like everyone's completely dead.

2710
01:40:18.180 --> 01:40:19.439
Mr. Lucas died very young.

2711
01:40:19.500 --> 01:40:20.819
Yeah, you went a few years ago.

2712
01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:22.380
Actually, is Mr. Spooner still alive?

2713
01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:25.140
Yeah, he died of anal cancer, though, very recently.

2714
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:26.159
Mr. Spooner?

2715
01:40:26.220 --> 01:40:26.460
Yeah.

2716
01:40:26.460 --> 01:40:28.199
Induced by acting.

2717
01:40:28.859 --> 01:40:30.840
No, they're all dead.

2718
01:40:30.899 --> 01:40:35.039
Mr. Spooner is also in Wurzel Gummidge, the New Zealand down under

2719
01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:35.579
years.

2720
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:37.020
It's true.

2721
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:44.220
Mr. Spooner plays the dad in the John Pertui, Wurzel Gummidge, in

2722
01:40:44.220 --> 01:40:46.800
his classic, Wurzel Gummidge.

2723
01:40:46.859 --> 01:40:50.579
Well, do you think does any of are you being served down under

2724
01:40:50.579 --> 01:40:51.239
survive?

2725
01:40:51.300 --> 01:40:54.060
Interestingly, yes.

2726
01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:56.279
But it hasn't been released.

2727
01:40:56.340 --> 01:40:58.920
It was released on VHS, but not on DVD.

2728
01:40:58.979 --> 01:41:01.260
The Homeborne is the Mr. Lucas character.

2729
01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:04.079
June Bronhill as the Mrs. Slocum character.

2730
01:41:04.140 --> 01:41:06.479
The unborn was Mr. Humphries, wasn't he?

2731
01:41:06.539 --> 01:41:08.340
No, he was Mr. Lucas.

2732
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:09.359
Who is Mr. Humphreys?

2733
01:41:09.420 --> 01:41:10.680
Mr. Humphreys was Mr. Humphreys.

2734
01:41:10.739 --> 01:41:11.340
It was John Edman.

2735
01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:11.760
Oh, of course.

2736
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:13.979
The only original player from the Info.

2737
01:41:13.979 --> 01:41:14.699
Yeah, yeah.

2738
01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:15.420
John Inman.

2739
01:41:15.539 --> 01:41:18.420
June Braunhill was, yeah, was Jim Braunhill.

2740
01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:19.020
You was fine.

2741
01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:22.199
And beautifully, if there are any English listeners, Grace

2742
01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:25.920
Brothers has been a department store in Australia since, well, for

2743
01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:26.760
almost 100 years.

2744
01:41:26.819 --> 01:41:30.119
And there weren't any problems with the rights in the original

2745
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:32.039
broadcaster, are you being said?

2746
01:41:32.100 --> 01:41:34.140
Bone Brothers.

2747
01:41:34.140 --> 01:41:36.420
But they changed it to Bone Brothers.

2748
01:41:36.420 --> 01:41:37.800
So it was a Grace Brothers.

2749
01:41:37.859 --> 01:41:40.380
And it was actually, and Grace Brother said, no, we're fine with

2750
01:41:40.380 --> 01:41:40.560
that.

2751
01:41:40.619 --> 01:41:43.199
Call it Grace Brothers. and Channel 7 was made here.

2752
01:41:43.260 --> 01:41:45.720
Oh, no, we shouldn't give free advertising.

2753
01:41:45.779 --> 01:41:47.640
That's how different society was then.

2754
01:41:47.699 --> 01:41:49.260
Other department stores.

2755
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:50.399
Because there's also available.

2756
01:41:50.460 --> 01:41:52.920
Yeah, there's nothing rude in the title Bone Brothers.

2757
01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:54.000
Well, guess what?

2758
01:41:54.060 --> 01:41:57.359
If you want to see it, go to YouTube and search for are you being

2759
01:41:57.359 --> 01:41:58.979
served down under the whole series is there.

2760
01:41:59.220 --> 01:42:00.899
How good is it?

2761
01:42:00.899 --> 01:42:04.079
I challenge you to get to the 1st ad break because I couldn't.

2762
01:42:04.739 --> 01:42:08.760
That being said, Shane Bourne with hair is surprisingly hot.

2763
01:42:08.819 --> 01:42:09.960
And June Bronhill.

2764
01:42:10.020 --> 01:42:12.119
She's quite good, but hot.

2765
01:42:12.180 --> 01:42:14.399
I think the problem...

2766
01:42:14.460 --> 01:42:20.039
I think the problem is because, um, are you being served, heat now

2767
01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:22.140
this guy's a bit hot, bit stern.

2768
01:42:22.140 --> 01:42:23.819
Oh, if you and your Nazi uniforms, Brandon.

2769
01:42:23.819 --> 01:42:28.380
The usual Taryn from a... eyes.

2770
01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:28.680
Yeah.

2771
01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:31.020
But, um...

2772
01:42:31.079 --> 01:42:32.819
He's looking in and up and down.

2773
01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:34.800
Where's Altoff's?

2774
01:42:35.819 --> 01:42:39.899
Are you being served is very much based on class warfare.

2775
01:42:40.020 --> 01:42:41.520
That's John Miles, isn't it?

2776
01:42:41.579 --> 01:42:42.779
sitting on the chair, yeah.

2777
01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:45.420
I shall fire you on.

2778
01:42:45.479 --> 01:42:48.420
If you do not follow my intentions, then my hugo bar.

2779
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:50.100
Actually, he reminds me of it.

2780
01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:53.159
It's the 1939 to 1945.

2781
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:54.180
Yeah.

2782
01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:59.100
In other words, fish eyes in a Hugo boss Nazi uniform.

2783
01:42:59.159 --> 01:42:59.760
Sorry, sorry.

2784
01:42:59.819 --> 01:43:01.020
Look, it's Richard.

2785
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:02.640
I can't believe it's not Richard Franklin.

2786
01:43:02.699 --> 01:43:03.840
Does he listen to this podcast?

2787
01:43:03.899 --> 01:43:05.760
Richard Frank. can't believe he does.

2788
01:43:05.819 --> 01:43:07.439
We mention him constantly.

2789
01:43:07.500 --> 01:43:08.460
I to mention him.

2790
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:09.119
Well, good on him.

2791
01:43:09.779 --> 01:43:10.439
He's Twitter.

2792
01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:11.340
I think he's fabulous.

2793
01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:12.420
Richard Franklin.

2794
01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:15.960
No, I have a cron job set up on my computer to just sort of

2795
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:16.560
pestering.

2796
01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:17.520
A what job?

2797
01:43:17.579 --> 01:43:20.340
You know, it's a computer-y thing.

2798
01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:21.600
Oh, I don't know.

2799
01:43:21.659 --> 01:43:22.560
He's about those figs.

2800
01:43:22.619 --> 01:43:23.640
It's a beautiful thing.

2801
01:43:23.699 --> 01:43:25.260
He's a proper smell.

2802
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:25.680
Yeah.

2803
01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:27.659
It's a macrobite modem.

2804
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:28.739
I'm looking to...

2805
01:43:28.739 --> 01:43:29.760
I'm not.

2806
01:43:29.819 --> 01:43:32.220
After the Tom Baker hornet's nest stuff.

2807
01:43:32.279 --> 01:43:34.800
I'm really looking forward to the Lala Ward Richard Franklin

2808
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:39.060
episodes that they'll be cross-pollinating.

2809
01:43:39.180 --> 01:43:41.460
The 1st episode is called Fish Eye, I think.

2810
01:43:43.619 --> 01:43:46.500
Meanwhile, I love your cards.

2811
01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:47.640
You look like a dog.

2812
01:43:47.699 --> 01:43:48.840
I want to pat you.

2813
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:51.239
Back on the planet.

2814
01:43:52.500 --> 01:43:53.340
Do you like my collar?

2815
01:43:53.399 --> 01:43:54.300
It's really upright.

2816
01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:55.380
I didn't get everything.

2817
01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:56.399
Oh God.

2818
01:43:57.060 --> 01:43:58.979
Do you like my hair?

2819
01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:00.239
Yeah, I love your hair.

2820
01:44:00.300 --> 01:44:02.340
By the way, I have really full upper lips.

2821
01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:04.140
I'm like most Russians.

2822
01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:06.119
So we're back here.

2823
01:44:06.180 --> 01:44:08.880
Oh, he's really not working for me, is he?

2824
01:44:08.939 --> 01:44:12.840
There's Ian saying, I've got more testosterone in my little finger

2825
01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:13.800
than you've got in.

2826
01:44:13.859 --> 01:44:15.479
Well, let's call it your little finger.

2827
01:44:15.899 --> 01:44:19.680
I'm going to talk on the telephone because I'm on an Indian

2828
01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:20.340
planet.

2829
01:44:21.359 --> 01:44:25.800
What were you complaining about before that they have flippers or

2830
01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:27.479
something on an alien planet?

2831
01:44:27.539 --> 01:44:28.680
Well, I didn't mind that.

2832
01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:29.460
And now we have a telephone.

2833
01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:31.140
But this is like, just silly.

2834
01:44:31.260 --> 01:44:32.939
Taryn?

2835
01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:33.720
Oh my goodness.

2836
01:44:33.779 --> 01:44:35.939
He was the Stephen thingy all the time.

2837
01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:38.640
No, it's his name is teranium core.

2838
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:40.140
What was the point?

2839
01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:40.500
Thank you.

2840
01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:42.960
What was the name for that bloke behind the fridge?

2841
01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:46.380
That they, he just appeared for a 2nd and then we closed the

2842
01:44:46.380 --> 01:44:48.060
fridge door because no, he's not in this thing right now.

2843
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:49.020
You are mine.

2844
01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:52.859
I love your family out and your stupid backcoming your English

2845
01:44:52.859 --> 01:44:53.460
weights.

2846
01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:55.260
I will have you for now. you are mine.

2847
01:44:55.380 --> 01:44:57.479
By the way, do you really love my clutch bag?

2848
01:44:57.600 --> 01:44:58.319
I my heart right now.

2849
01:44:58.380 --> 01:44:59.760
How much have you drunk?

2850
01:44:59.819 --> 01:45:01.859
No, we do this every podcast.

2851
01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:04.260
You do this every podcast. what we do.

2852
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:06.600
Yeah, Todd, you haven't heard Bondfinger.

2853
01:45:06.659 --> 01:45:08.760
Every time a Germanic, Nazi.

2854
01:45:08.819 --> 01:45:11.279
I don't think I put that...

2855
01:45:11.279 --> 01:45:11.520
Is it?

2856
01:45:11.579 --> 01:45:13.380
I love the gap between his front teeth.

2857
01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:15.539
That's ¢50 and I'm talking 2 20s and a 10.

2858
01:45:15.779 --> 01:45:18.840
Is is really not impressed with this dude.

2859
01:45:18.899 --> 01:45:20.399
Oh, I don't think so.

2860
01:45:20.460 --> 01:45:21.840
I don't know.

2861
01:45:21.899 --> 01:45:23.699
He's got a nice eyelashes.

2862
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:25.079
He's got a 40s look to him.

2863
01:45:25.140 --> 01:45:29.760
Yeah, I see. 1940 to 1945.

2864
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.760
And then Argentina for the next 25 years.

2865
01:45:35.819 --> 01:45:39.539
Is this a good time to mention that this is a replacement story?

2866
01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:40.979
For what?

2867
01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:41.520
Wow.

2868
01:45:41.579 --> 01:45:43.680
Originally. of the space whale?

2869
01:45:43.739 --> 01:45:44.220
No.

2870
01:45:44.279 --> 01:45:49.319
Originally in this slot was a story called The Hidden Planet.

2871
01:45:49.380 --> 01:45:50.760
No.

2872
01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:53.279
And the one that's behind the...

2873
01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:54.479
Yeah, it's the one that's...

2874
01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:55.920
Now, are you sure that's not a furfy?

2875
01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:58.439
Because Doc is muchly through the whole hit...

2876
01:45:58.500 --> 01:45:58.979
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2877
01:45:59.039 --> 01:45:59.699
But yeah.

2878
01:45:59.699 --> 01:46:01.500
Because they're naughty front bottles.

2879
01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:03.359
It was partially based in truth.

2880
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:06.119
And it was an original story.

2881
01:46:06.180 --> 01:46:08.640
The idea was there was a 10th planet in the solar system, which

2882
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:11.220
was on the opposite orbit to earth.

2883
01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:12.539
So same orbital part.

2884
01:46:12.659 --> 01:46:13.260
Doppelganger.

2885
01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:14.100
A doppelganger.

2886
01:46:14.699 --> 01:46:16.380
Women were gonna be the dominant sex.

2887
01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:19.619
Barb, the double of Barbara was their leader.

2888
01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:20.640
Fields Airlocks.

2889
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:23.100
Barbara was their leader.

2890
01:46:23.159 --> 01:46:25.979
Oh, yeah.

2891
01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.159
We moved to the nearby parallel universe where that happened.

2892
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:30.840
And Billy's back.

2893
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:33.840
Galaxy four.

2894
01:46:33.899 --> 01:46:35.159
They're all excited.

2895
01:46:35.220 --> 01:46:37.560
It's called the worm that turned.

2896
01:46:37.619 --> 01:46:39.359
But do you want to know who the writer was?

2897
01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:40.800
No, please, tell us.

2898
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:41.279
Ryan Hale.

2899
01:46:41.340 --> 01:46:42.180
Malcolm Hulk.

2900
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:44.279
Oh, amazing.

2901
01:46:44.340 --> 01:46:45.000
Yeah.

2902
01:46:45.060 --> 01:46:46.560
So the thing is, it could have actually went wrong.

2903
01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:48.420
That's too good.

2904
01:46:48.479 --> 01:46:53.460
Just the scripts weren't really deemed highbrow enough, really.

2905
01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:56.399
Verity wasn't happy. highbrow.

2906
01:46:56.460 --> 01:46:59.039
Archimand giants wandering.

2907
01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:01.079
That's not Cyril Shaps. going to eat Todd.

2908
01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:03.899
Five.

2909
01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:04.920
Civil shaps?

2910
01:47:04.979 --> 01:47:05.279
Yeah.

2911
01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:06.779
Pretty much. are they aren't.

2912
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:09.539
This is where the budget ran out because really...

2913
01:47:09.539 --> 01:47:13.140
They're wearing on their heads like...

2914
01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:17.579
You see, like, you know, you see little lamb cutlets in the stores

2915
01:47:17.579 --> 01:47:18.779
with little...

2916
01:47:18.779 --> 01:47:19.199
Oh, yeah.

2917
01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:20.699
Are you frozen?

2918
01:47:21.060 --> 01:47:23.100
Two of these judges.

2919
01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:27.720
The middle judge, and I believe the judge on the right, were I

2920
01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:28.680
soldiers last week?

2921
01:47:28.739 --> 01:47:30.180
Oh great.

2922
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:34.979
And they were also Venn Glynd and the justice machine from the 1st

2923
01:47:34.979 --> 01:47:35.340
episode.

2924
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:39.840
This is a Venn diagram for Todd's Snog Mary avoid, isn't it?

2925
01:47:39.899 --> 01:47:41.699
So which of the guards?

2926
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:43.680
It's a sch which you're saying.

2927
01:47:43.739 --> 01:47:46.859
Which would you kill and which would you?

2928
01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:49.079
I haven't seen all 3 of them yet.

2929
01:47:49.140 --> 01:47:50.760
What Joe, how are you feeling for this?

2930
01:47:50.819 --> 01:47:51.720
I'm not doing anything.

2931
01:47:51.779 --> 01:47:52.859
Oh yes, you are.

2932
01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:53.520
It's your game.

2933
01:47:54.899 --> 01:47:57.119
I'm sorry, his teeth.

2934
01:47:57.180 --> 01:47:59.220
I'm sorry, but there are...

2935
01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:00.119
I'm avoiding him.

2936
01:48:00.180 --> 01:48:01.680
Yeah, no, it's really hot right now.

2937
01:48:01.739 --> 01:48:03.479
They're just Buddhists.

2938
01:48:03.539 --> 01:48:04.500
It's perfectly fine.

2939
01:48:04.619 --> 01:48:07.739
By the way, this is a plug for the bad dog party.

2940
01:48:07.739 --> 01:48:11.159
I think I, and the theme is Bad Dog the Musical, and I'm going

2941
01:48:11.159 --> 01:48:13.199
because every musical has Nazis.

2942
01:48:13.260 --> 01:48:14.039
I'm actually going.

2943
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:16.140
Okay, is that an Nazi-esque sort of superman?

2944
01:48:16.199 --> 01:48:16.979
That's what I've been saying.

2945
01:48:17.100 --> 01:48:17.460
Sorry.

2946
01:48:17.460 --> 01:48:18.180
That's all right.

2947
01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:20.159
Okay, judges, snog marry, kill.

2948
01:48:20.220 --> 01:48:23.819
The judge on the left, I would snog, the judge on the right, I

2949
01:48:23.819 --> 01:48:25.439
would marry and the judge in the middle, I would kill.

2950
01:48:25.500 --> 01:48:26.159
Good.

2951
01:48:26.220 --> 01:48:27.359
I'm telling Ron.

2952
01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:31.079
Pickering.

2953
01:48:31.140 --> 01:48:31.800
Hooray!

2954
01:48:31.859 --> 01:48:33.720
It's Captain Molotov.

2955
01:48:33.779 --> 01:48:35.220
Actually, the one on the left is kind of hot.

2956
01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:36.479
Yeah, exactly.

2957
01:48:36.539 --> 01:48:37.500
That's why I'd snorke him.

2958
01:48:37.560 --> 01:48:38.460
I married the one on the right.

2959
01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:40.020
He looks a bit like Simon Pegg.

2960
01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:41.220
I like Simon Pegg.

2961
01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:43.260
Yeah, one in the middle, I have to murder.

2962
01:48:43.319 --> 01:48:44.520
Can I just say?

2963
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:46.380
But he's probably got the biggest...

2964
01:48:46.380 --> 01:48:49.920
Ah, well, my nutsu, your my farm has a clock.

2965
01:48:49.979 --> 01:48:50.760
What do you think?

2966
01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:52.140
I was going to say vocabulary.

2967
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:52.859
What were you going to say?

2968
01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:54.180
I say no capes.

2969
01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:58.380
Hey, boy, Altos.

2970
01:48:58.380 --> 01:49:01.739
Oh, so enthusiastic.

2971
01:49:01.800 --> 01:49:03.180
Get rid of the fact.

2972
01:49:03.180 --> 01:49:06.000
Well, Billy used to go...

2973
01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:08.640
Billy used to go holidaying with Charles Haughtry, so we can't

2974
01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:09.960
have had...

2975
01:49:10.020 --> 01:49:12.659
I think a lot of the stuff we've heard about Billy.

2976
01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:13.920
Oh God, Billy, I love your teeth.

2977
01:49:14.100 --> 01:49:15.600
You know what?

2978
01:49:15.659 --> 01:49:18.899
I think Billy may have disliked the fags, as it were, but you're

2979
01:49:18.899 --> 01:49:19.619
okay kind of thing.

2980
01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:21.779
I think he might have made exception.

2981
01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:25.439
I think he actually decided day to day, depending on how much, how

2982
01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:28.800
bad a mood he was in, pretty much like how we do this podcast.

2983
01:49:28.859 --> 01:49:31.140
Yeah, that's true.

2984
01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:34.199
I actually think I think he was...

2985
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:34.680
No, no.

2986
01:49:34.739 --> 01:49:36.420
And I think that I think that that's clear.

2987
01:49:36.479 --> 01:49:40.619
I think there's other evidence that he didn't act with Max Adrian

2988
01:49:40.619 --> 01:49:43.380
just because he was gay because people knew that he acted with

2989
01:49:43.380 --> 01:49:44.640
other people who were gay.

2990
01:49:44.699 --> 01:49:46.739
I mean, I think we've out lied to that, yeah.

2991
01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:51.180
But he was also sort of horrifically joking, by the way.

2992
01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:52.739
What do you think?

2993
01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:55.260
Well, he was also English.

2994
01:49:55.380 --> 01:49:57.300
Oh yeah, I know.

2995
01:49:57.359 --> 01:50:00.720
But not everyone in English in the 90s English.

2996
01:50:00.779 --> 01:50:05.039
He had to go with that South American bird and a cup of cocoa. yeah

2997
01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:05.579
that is true.

2998
01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:06.300
Hello?

2999
01:50:06.420 --> 01:50:08.399
Oh, what's that?

3000
01:50:08.460 --> 01:50:09.239
That's a pen.

3001
01:50:09.300 --> 01:50:10.619
Even though she's actually in Dutch.

3002
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:12.359
It's a sideways pen.

3003
01:50:12.420 --> 01:50:13.319
Also books.

3004
01:50:13.739 --> 01:50:16.199
Also, hello, I'm back.

3005
01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:17.699
Smokeberry avoid.

3006
01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:19.199
Tara.

3007
01:50:19.260 --> 01:50:20.340
What about in this scene?

3008
01:50:20.399 --> 01:50:22.439
And who's the other hottie in this store?

3009
01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:23.699
Donald Pickering?

3010
01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:25.680
Oh look, he's lost 2 rolls of war paper.

3011
01:50:25.739 --> 01:50:26.279
Okay.

3012
01:50:26.340 --> 01:50:29.399
And from under his arms, I mean.

3013
01:50:29.460 --> 01:50:31.439
I'd match...

3014
01:50:31.500 --> 01:50:34.380
I'd marry Altos because he wanders around without his pants on and

3015
01:50:34.380 --> 01:50:34.979
I approve of that.

3016
01:50:35.159 --> 01:50:38.159
See, it's such a window into your private life.

3017
01:50:38.220 --> 01:50:42.479
I would snog Donald Pickering, and so I suppose I'd kill Taron

3018
01:50:42.479 --> 01:50:43.680
despite the fact he's also quite hot.

3019
01:50:43.739 --> 01:50:48.180
Yeah, but my waste scanner is like going off.

3020
01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:52.500
Terron's super busy getting everything out of Dabros's safe, you

3021
01:50:52.500 --> 01:50:52.739
know.

3022
01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:56.520
That is the night all the time.

3023
01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:57.600
Oh my god.

3024
01:50:57.659 --> 01:50:58.680
Okay, I get it now.

3025
01:50:58.739 --> 01:51:00.060
He's Neider Jr.

3026
01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:02.460
Oh, by the way, I'm wearing gloves, by the way.

3027
01:51:02.520 --> 01:51:04.079
It's so nice to have Billy back.

3028
01:51:04.140 --> 01:51:05.039
It really is.

3029
01:51:05.159 --> 01:51:08.520
And what I love about the story, do you love uniforms?

3030
01:51:08.579 --> 01:51:09.479
I don't even have to wear this.

3031
01:51:09.539 --> 01:51:10.619
I just do it because I can.

3032
01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:13.199
I've been really, we don't even have to wear uniforms.

3033
01:51:13.979 --> 01:51:16.560
This story starts.

3034
01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:17.460
Oh, that's so well.

3035
01:51:17.460 --> 01:51:21.539
I could be speaking Greek for all I know, and we could just

3036
01:51:21.539 --> 01:51:22.020
overdump.

3037
01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:22.260
Yep.

3038
01:51:22.319 --> 01:51:23.939
This story starts with...

3039
01:51:23.939 --> 01:51:24.720
How about our news?

3040
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:26.760
Choose to throw our own outfits to other shit.

3041
01:51:26.819 --> 01:51:27.420
Not like that.

3042
01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:32.760
This story starts with the doctor and his companions being forced

3043
01:51:32.760 --> 01:51:33.779
into...

3044
01:51:33.779 --> 01:51:34.500
Hidden Planet.

3045
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:39.659
No, it starts with this story starts with the doctor and his

3046
01:51:39.659 --> 01:51:42.000
companions being forced into going on a mission and they don't

3047
01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:42.479
want to go on it.

3048
01:51:42.539 --> 01:51:46.199
By this point, they are determined to repair injustice.

3049
01:51:46.260 --> 01:51:50.340
This is where it becomes a show about, we go places, we start

3050
01:51:50.340 --> 01:51:52.859
revolutions and we help people.

3051
01:51:52.979 --> 01:51:53.699
Revolution.

3052
01:51:53.699 --> 01:51:54.720
Are we getting money?

3053
01:51:55.319 --> 01:51:57.600
I do license the show becoming Doctor Who.

3054
01:51:57.600 --> 01:51:59.760
This is the show becoming...

3055
01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:00.600
And we getting that, though?

3056
01:52:00.659 --> 01:52:02.039
Because mostly I'm getting hand acting.

3057
01:52:02.100 --> 01:52:03.420
Hand acting.

3058
01:52:03.899 --> 01:52:04.619
Oh he's great at hand.

3059
01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:06.000
Oh, God, he's so good.

3060
01:52:06.060 --> 01:52:07.140
Don't try and do it, Caroline.

3061
01:52:07.199 --> 01:52:07.920
You can't keep it.

3062
01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:11.100
I mean, that's not that's not inconsistent with hand acting.

3063
01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:13.560
But I mean, think about what we've had so far.

3064
01:52:13.619 --> 01:52:21.600
We've had Mac, we've had, you know, cavemen, Edge of Destruction

3065
01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:24.720
Daleks, and, you know, Daleks.

3066
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:28.199
We weren't ever trying to, like, correct anything or do anything

3067
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:28.680
wrong.

3068
01:52:28.739 --> 01:52:32.159
The only reason they lead a revolution in the Daleks is to get

3069
01:52:32.159 --> 01:52:33.600
their ball back, basically.

3070
01:52:34.020 --> 01:52:37.800
Because naughty, naughty Billy dropped it deliberately.

3071
01:52:37.920 --> 01:52:39.779
I love that Billy could just do that.

3072
01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:43.020
But here they are actually trying to do something.

3073
01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:48.840
And so can we blame Terry Nation for the eventual trajectory that

3074
01:52:48.840 --> 01:52:49.859
the show will take.

3075
01:52:49.979 --> 01:52:50.399
Absolutely.

3076
01:52:50.460 --> 01:52:50.880
Absolutely.

3077
01:52:50.939 --> 01:52:54.720
Because remember, Verity wasn't expecting the Daleks to be a

3078
01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:57.420
success, and Verity wasn't expecting those themes to be a

3079
01:52:57.420 --> 01:52:57.899
success.

3080
01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:00.840
Verity kind of wanted to do conceptual sci-fi and then found

3081
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:04.800
herself in this conceptual action adventure, which she went along

3082
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:06.960
with because she's like, this is where it's naturally evolving

3083
01:53:06.960 --> 01:53:10.079
because she was a dynamic creator. smart, smart woman.

3084
01:53:10.140 --> 01:53:13.739
That's the point. so creative and so fresh. nobody knew what was

3085
01:53:13.739 --> 01:53:14.460
going to happen next.

3086
01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:16.979
That's why this is so enigmatic to watch now.

3087
01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:17.939
Also backcoming.

3088
01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:22.020
I have a paradigm where I want David Whittaker to be responsible

3089
01:53:22.020 --> 01:53:25.380
for everything good in Doctor Who that Malcolm Hulk is not

3090
01:53:25.380 --> 01:53:25.859
responsible.

3091
01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:30.060
Yeah, the thing is, David, everything good that Malcolm Hulk's not

3092
01:53:30.060 --> 01:53:33.960
responsible for. or, yeah, no, essentially.

3093
01:53:34.020 --> 01:53:37.500
And Eric Say would is responsible for everything, loathsome and

3094
01:53:37.500 --> 01:53:38.520
harassing.

3095
01:53:38.579 --> 01:53:39.539
Is that the problem with the series?

3096
01:53:39.659 --> 01:53:40.979
We have Whittaker.

3097
01:53:41.039 --> 01:53:42.659
We have Hulk.

3098
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:45.119
We have homes and then we have sabred.

3099
01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:46.560
Well, Holmes is awful.

3100
01:53:46.619 --> 01:53:50.220
And then homes and Seywood, which is like anti-matter and massa.

3101
01:53:50.699 --> 01:53:53.939
But Holmes had a sense of humour because Holmes would have a have

3102
01:53:53.939 --> 01:53:55.260
a quite similar sensibility.

3103
01:53:55.319 --> 01:54:01.500
I know, but Holmes is clever and say would... also hates the

3104
01:54:01.500 --> 01:54:01.800
show.

3105
01:54:01.859 --> 01:54:07.260
Well, and really, tongue in cheek, I love hating things

3106
01:54:07.260 --> 01:54:08.039
disposition.

3107
01:54:08.100 --> 01:54:08.640
Yeah.

3108
01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:09.960
And so...

3109
01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:10.439
Hooray.

3110
01:54:10.500 --> 01:54:11.880
It's Fiona.

3111
01:54:11.939 --> 01:54:14.939
Oh, we loved her.

3112
01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:15.960
Certainly we're all at home.

3113
01:54:16.020 --> 01:54:17.159
Do you really love that?

3114
01:54:17.220 --> 01:54:18.119
Also side ice.

3115
01:54:18.180 --> 01:54:19.079
Yeah, because not in this.

3116
01:54:19.140 --> 01:54:20.039
I just love her today.

3117
01:54:20.100 --> 01:54:22.140
How can you not love her in everything?

3118
01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:25.199
Oh, I'm not at home, you fricking Avon girl.

3119
01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:27.000
Three women in a scene.

3120
01:54:27.060 --> 01:54:29.039
Oh, hooray.

3121
01:54:29.100 --> 01:54:30.899
I think that the 1st time ever.

3122
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:33.060
And unfortunately, they're still talking about men.

3123
01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:34.619
Yeah, as usual.

3124
01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:35.159
Oh, yes.

3125
01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:38.520
The thing is...

3126
01:54:38.579 --> 01:54:39.779
Her frock is so 60s.

3127
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:42.539
I think it's actually just very arrogant.

3128
01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:46.500
But on a black man was wearing things like this before they hit on

3129
01:54:46.500 --> 01:54:48.239
the leather and suede wardrobe.

3130
01:54:48.300 --> 01:54:49.140
She was too.

3131
01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:52.260
Who is flattering the waste, though, is it?

3132
01:54:52.260 --> 01:54:55.439
And she gives it away with the whole micro key thing, doesn't

3133
01:54:55.439 --> 01:54:55.560
she?

3134
01:54:56.220 --> 01:54:59.520
That happens twice, as Brendan alluded to before.

3135
01:54:59.579 --> 01:55:02.520
It actually happens twice in these 2 episodes.

3136
01:55:02.579 --> 01:55:04.020
People just give them.

3137
01:55:04.020 --> 01:55:05.279
It's an alien planet.

3138
01:55:05.399 --> 01:55:08.640
Why don't they have tall boy bureaus and, you know, like and

3139
01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:10.380
Chesterfield's...

3140
01:55:10.380 --> 01:55:13.680
They have shoes and dresses and everything, every planet.

3141
01:55:13.739 --> 01:55:17.460
Because we had those, but funny, you're filthy, human style, the

3142
01:55:17.460 --> 01:55:19.260
perfectly timed.

3143
01:55:19.380 --> 01:55:21.479
Oh, yes.

3144
01:55:21.479 --> 01:55:22.439
Are they having an affair?

3145
01:55:22.500 --> 01:55:24.600
So this is our this is our husband.

3146
01:55:24.659 --> 01:55:27.359
So this is Aidan and Carla.

3147
01:55:27.899 --> 01:55:29.880
Is Carla having an affair with her husband?

3148
01:55:29.939 --> 01:55:31.439
Is this Aidan, is it?

3149
01:55:31.500 --> 01:55:32.220
This is Aidan.

3150
01:55:32.279 --> 01:55:33.300
Snorg bearing a Boyd?

3151
01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:34.800
Aidan Altos.

3152
01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:35.460
There you go.

3153
01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:36.779
Can I marry Kara?

3154
01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:39.300
I want those 2 to get their own spinoff series.

3155
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:40.500
Who?

3156
01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:45.000
Oh, I want I want them to have their own seat.

3157
01:55:45.060 --> 01:55:46.079
No one knows where it is.

3158
01:55:46.140 --> 01:55:47.520
You fool.

3159
01:55:47.579 --> 01:55:48.239
In the thing.

3160
01:55:48.300 --> 01:55:50.640
You're a cop, for God's sake.

3161
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:54.180
Chesterfield told you where he hit it.

3162
01:55:55.020 --> 01:55:56.760
Oh, dear.

3163
01:55:56.880 --> 01:55:59.399
No, you're not very convincing.

3164
01:55:59.460 --> 01:56:01.979
I'm sorry, this is the clue moment.

3165
01:56:02.039 --> 01:56:03.779
Are you trying to make me look stupid in front of the other

3166
01:56:03.779 --> 01:56:04.260
guests?

3167
01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:05.939
You don't need any help from me, sir.

3168
01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:08.640
I shall pretend to backswipe you with my handy thing.

3169
01:56:08.699 --> 01:56:09.720
Oh, this is great.

3170
01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:12.899
Also, her bun looks like an ovipositor.

3171
01:56:13.079 --> 01:56:14.699
That's great.

3172
01:56:14.819 --> 01:56:16.560
A hairdo as a cloaca.

3173
01:56:16.619 --> 01:56:19.439
Oh my god, Zorak's been here. chair in that corridor.

3174
01:56:19.500 --> 01:56:20.039
Sorry, go on.

3175
01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:27.359
I really want Zara and Bumface to have their own sitcom, Maradol

3176
01:56:27.359 --> 01:56:27.840
sitcom.

3177
01:56:27.899 --> 01:56:29.100
They're having it through the...

3178
01:56:29.100 --> 01:56:31.199
He launches a...

3179
01:56:31.260 --> 01:56:32.760
He launches her into Spain.

3180
01:56:32.819 --> 01:56:33.479
Where are they?

3181
01:56:33.479 --> 01:56:36.180
so that she can orbit around the planet.

3182
01:56:36.239 --> 01:56:37.140
Marinace.

3183
01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:37.920
What city is this?

3184
01:56:37.979 --> 01:56:39.000
Millennius.

3185
01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:41.279
Because it goes forever.

3186
01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:43.439
Millennia.

3187
01:56:43.500 --> 01:56:46.079
And we did just have a bit of domestic violence there, which I

3188
01:56:46.079 --> 01:56:46.920
think should be commented on.

3189
01:56:47.039 --> 01:56:48.180
This is the 60s.

3190
01:56:48.180 --> 01:56:49.380
This looks like...

3191
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:49.920
I'm sorry.

3192
01:56:49.979 --> 01:56:51.659
The miracle...

3193
01:56:51.659 --> 01:56:52.560
Yes.

3194
01:56:52.619 --> 01:56:54.180
Now he's playing Ison.

3195
01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:56.100
Oh, I send.

3196
01:56:56.159 --> 01:57:01.439
I send, also, this also is the GHD and we'll curse my bangs. sort

3197
01:57:01.439 --> 01:57:03.000
of phone thing, so to speak.

3198
01:57:03.119 --> 01:57:05.640
Also, it's got 3 settings.

3199
01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:08.640
And I'm wearing gloves.

3200
01:57:08.699 --> 01:57:11.640
You're young twins, you know, that one might not go through with

3201
01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:11.819
it.

3202
01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:12.659
What do you reckon?

3203
01:57:14.220 --> 01:57:17.939
Why do you reckon phones never looked like that in the city?

3204
01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:19.020
Because he's rude.

3205
01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:20.159
They look great.

3206
01:57:20.220 --> 01:57:22.079
They're awesome. nice chairs.

3207
01:57:22.140 --> 01:57:24.239
Also, I want that hat.

3208
01:57:24.300 --> 01:57:27.779
I should like a hat like that Also, he's wearing a cake.

3209
01:57:28.380 --> 01:57:32.699
What the freak is that hanging on his belt?

3210
01:57:32.819 --> 01:57:34.140
It's a space gun.

3211
01:57:34.199 --> 01:57:35.640
That's what he told his shooter wife.

3212
01:57:35.699 --> 01:57:36.600
It's a penis gun.

3213
01:57:36.659 --> 01:57:38.520
Yeah, no, it's a total space gun.

3214
01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:40.140
This is a total nation story.

3215
01:57:40.199 --> 01:57:43.140
Oh, there's a reason he walks like that.

3216
01:57:43.260 --> 01:57:44.279
Oh my god.

3217
01:57:44.279 --> 01:57:45.539
What a trial of a trial.

3218
01:57:45.600 --> 01:57:46.859
He was the Michael J.

3219
01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:48.960
We don't get 14 episodes of that.

3220
01:57:49.020 --> 01:57:50.699
Oh, so ow, that's gonna really hurt.

3221
01:57:50.819 --> 01:57:52.439
Yeah, it's not trial of a time lord.

3222
01:57:52.500 --> 01:57:53.760
What's he wavering?

3223
01:57:53.819 --> 01:57:54.539
People are murmuring.

3224
01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:56.159
You know it's not trial of a timeline.

3225
01:57:56.220 --> 01:57:57.659
Because there's more than 3 camera angles.

3226
01:57:57.720 --> 01:57:58.979
I also need to say no more.

3227
01:57:58.979 --> 01:58:00.000
And we're storm free.

3228
01:58:00.060 --> 01:58:00.720
There's a better set.

3229
01:58:01.619 --> 01:58:05.279
Ooh, at least there's still war games with people in the back.

3230
01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:07.560
Boo, Boo, Boo. rhubarb.

3231
01:58:07.619 --> 01:58:10.140
All those women in the back wearing the same...

3232
01:58:10.199 --> 01:58:11.819
Also, I just want that.

3233
01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:13.560
Oh, no, you won't kiss him.

3234
01:58:13.619 --> 01:58:16.500
Actually, don't they hang those hats in like the doors of cool

3235
01:58:16.500 --> 01:58:18.000
rooms to keep the cold air inside?

3236
01:58:18.119 --> 01:58:19.739
No, no, no.

3237
01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:23.159
I like Todd's theory that they go on like chicken drumsticks and

3238
01:58:23.159 --> 01:58:23.640
stuff.

3239
01:58:23.939 --> 01:58:25.979
Dum, dum, dum.

3240
01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:29.220
Billy's wearing a fall, isn't he?

3241
01:58:29.279 --> 01:58:31.920
He's wearing one on a black...

3242
01:58:31.979 --> 01:58:35.039
I think that Donald Pipping is so bored by this child.

3243
01:58:35.100 --> 01:58:41.579
He's already applying for a job at Gatwick, or starring as a

3244
01:58:41.579 --> 01:58:42.479
chicken alien.

3245
01:58:42.539 --> 01:58:43.500
I'm pretty sure.

3246
01:58:43.500 --> 01:58:44.460
In the 1980s.

3247
01:58:44.520 --> 01:58:45.000
Yes.

3248
01:58:45.060 --> 01:58:46.800
I'm pretty sure Billy has a new wig here.

3249
01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:49.680
It's got, it's, it goes out to the side a bit more.

3250
01:58:49.739 --> 01:58:51.779
This is kind of Billy's traditional week because early on in the

3251
01:58:51.779 --> 01:58:54.119
story, it was far too far back. was one I prepared earlier.

3252
01:58:54.180 --> 01:58:57.659
He does look like he's got a Barrette on though.

3253
01:58:57.720 --> 01:58:58.859
Yes.

3254
01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:01.500
It won't be quite finalised yet.

3255
01:59:01.619 --> 01:59:03.720
No, I love he's put a lot of effort into that hairdude.

3256
01:59:03.779 --> 01:59:04.739
It's pretty fabulous.

3257
01:59:05.220 --> 01:59:07.319
I hate you all.

3258
01:59:07.380 --> 01:59:08.039
It is here.

3259
01:59:08.100 --> 01:59:09.779
Is he looking relaxed, do you think?

3260
01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:12.060
No, mostly Billy just thinks they're all idiots.

3261
01:59:12.119 --> 01:59:13.560
That's why I love Billy.

3262
01:59:13.619 --> 01:59:15.000
I see what you mean, though, Todd.

3263
01:59:15.060 --> 01:59:16.199
It's...

3264
01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:22.380
He's found what he wants to do in the role and I think that goes

3265
01:59:22.380 --> 01:59:23.939
hand in hand with becoming more heroic.

3266
01:59:24.060 --> 01:59:33.600
Also, also, oh, please, Tamara belongs to me.

3267
01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:35.279
Sorry.

3268
01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:36.180
Put out your hands.

3269
01:59:36.180 --> 01:59:37.439
Handsome hips.

3270
01:59:39.060 --> 01:59:41.579
Well, groaning.

3271
01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:43.680
Looks like that gun was cocked.

3272
01:59:43.739 --> 01:59:46.859
You'll be surprised you're doing the French mistake.

3273
01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:49.800
Faggots.

3274
01:59:50.579 --> 01:59:54.239
Slides like steam escaping.

3275
01:59:54.359 --> 01:59:57.899
I should point out we are quoting from Blaze.

3276
01:59:58.619 --> 01:59:59.460
And phrase.

3277
01:59:59.520 --> 02:00:00.659
Fiona Walker, you will.

3278
02:00:01.260 --> 02:00:03.539
Oh, Fiona...

3279
02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:05.640
She's doing Medeia right there.

3280
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:06.960
Look who is that?

3281
02:00:07.020 --> 02:00:08.100
Who was she in?

3282
02:00:08.100 --> 02:00:09.600
She's in i Claudius.

3283
02:00:09.659 --> 02:00:11.819
All things will not be happening.

3284
02:00:11.880 --> 02:00:13.020
Is she a Jacoby?

3285
02:00:13.079 --> 02:00:13.859
Agrippina?

3286
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:15.720
is she supposed Derek Jacoby?

3287
02:00:15.779 --> 02:00:16.319
She does.

3288
02:00:16.380 --> 02:00:17.939
I think she's awesome in it.

3289
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.279
She has the most impressive teeth.

3290
02:00:20.340 --> 02:00:24.060
Donald Pickering's looking at Billy like, I'm gonna steal your

3291
02:00:24.060 --> 02:00:24.479
show.

3292
02:00:24.539 --> 02:00:26.220
I am so good.

3293
02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:27.659
Forget Patrick.

3294
02:00:27.659 --> 02:00:29.100
He's really loving that finger, isn't he?

3295
02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:30.479
Forget Patrick Trouton.

3296
02:00:30.539 --> 02:00:31.319
I'm coming in next.

3297
02:00:32.340 --> 02:00:35.579
And I'm gonna, I look better in a cape than you.

3298
02:00:38.640 --> 02:00:39.600
Yeah.

3299
02:00:42.659 --> 02:00:44.460
Oh, bless him.

3300
02:00:44.520 --> 02:00:46.619
God, I love Billy.

3301
02:00:46.680 --> 02:00:48.300
Isn't he so superb?

3302
02:00:48.359 --> 02:00:50.699
He really hates everyone.

3303
02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:52.079
But that's the thing.

3304
02:00:52.079 --> 02:00:53.159
It's genuine too.

3305
02:00:53.220 --> 02:00:54.600
I miss that.

3306
02:00:54.659 --> 02:00:56.100
I miss that about popular culture.

3307
02:00:56.159 --> 02:01:00.300
Billy is the old, if call centres existed in the 1960s.

3308
02:01:00.359 --> 02:01:02.579
Billy is who you would have got on the other end.

3309
02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:05.520
Not this have a nice day and how are you feeling?

3310
02:01:05.579 --> 02:01:08.159
And I would have been...

3311
02:01:08.220 --> 02:01:09.779
Doesn't that annoy you?

3312
02:01:09.840 --> 02:01:10.260
The whole thing.

3313
02:01:10.319 --> 02:01:11.340
Yeah. 4th century.

3314
02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:12.119
How are you going today?

3315
02:01:12.180 --> 02:01:15.060
Well, much better if you just answered my call. how we're going

3316
02:01:15.060 --> 02:01:15.420
today.

3317
02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:17.340
Billy would have just...

3318
02:01:17.460 --> 02:01:21.060
You see, I like to really stum them by saying, I'm fine, thank you

3319
02:01:21.060 --> 02:01:23.340
and yourself, and usually they have to pause for a few seconds

3320
02:01:23.340 --> 02:01:25.319
because nobody ever asks how they are.

3321
02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:30.119
I'm in a giant hellhole with like a big headset on my head

3322
02:01:30.119 --> 02:01:31.140
answering your question.

3323
02:01:31.199 --> 02:01:31.859
Obviously.

3324
02:01:32.159 --> 02:01:33.300
I want to die.

3325
02:01:33.359 --> 02:01:35.640
That's what we should have done on Are you okay, day?

3326
02:01:35.699 --> 02:01:38.460
We should have called random call centres and just, do you have

3327
02:01:38.460 --> 02:01:39.180
questions?

3328
02:01:39.239 --> 02:01:39.659
Are you okay?

3329
02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:41.760
Are you okay there?

3330
02:01:41.819 --> 02:01:44.279
I think that's the highlight.

3331
02:01:44.399 --> 02:01:46.439
These people are, this is, yeah, I'm not.

3332
02:01:46.500 --> 02:01:49.260
Yeah, I'm gonna snog that going on the on the on the right.

3333
02:01:49.319 --> 02:01:49.859
Yeah.

3334
02:01:49.859 --> 02:01:51.899
He's got a fabulous moustache.

3335
02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:53.579
I think it might be fake.

3336
02:01:53.699 --> 02:01:54.960
Really?

3337
02:01:55.079 --> 02:01:55.560
Yeah.

3338
02:01:55.619 --> 02:01:58.319
I think he I think he might have borrowed...

3339
02:01:58.319 --> 02:01:59.880
Anthony Ainley, do you think?

3340
02:01:59.939 --> 02:02:01.739
Well, he could have.

3341
02:02:01.800 --> 02:02:05.460
I was thinking even more impressive from some people in creature

3342
02:02:05.460 --> 02:02:07.619
from the pitch, but we weren't...

3343
02:02:07.680 --> 02:02:09.960
Or maybe on the Antarctic Bay.

3344
02:02:10.739 --> 02:02:14.460
Despite the dramatics and hysterics of recent events.

3345
02:02:14.520 --> 02:02:15.000
Oh, yeah.

3346
02:02:15.060 --> 02:02:18.539
Someone a wife crying because her husband's been shot.

3347
02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:19.920
That's hysterics.

3348
02:02:19.979 --> 02:02:22.380
No, that's emotion, you evil man.

3349
02:02:22.439 --> 02:02:24.420
No, it's weirdly suspicious.

3350
02:02:24.479 --> 02:02:26.220
It's weirdly suspicious.

3351
02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:28.140
And it's hysterics because she's a woman.

3352
02:02:28.260 --> 02:02:32.460
A man, a man wouldn't cry over his wife dying like that, you

3353
02:02:32.460 --> 02:02:33.659
stupid woman.

3354
02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:34.859
She has wandering womb.

3355
02:02:34.979 --> 02:02:36.659
Screw you, Isaac.

3356
02:02:36.779 --> 02:02:37.199
Wandering.

3357
02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:41.520
I think the worst this gets the better it is.

3358
02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:46.619
Is that the def- that is the definition is we've just got the 60s

3359
02:02:46.619 --> 02:02:46.920
cap.

3360
02:02:46.979 --> 02:02:51.119
This is Susan Sontal's definition of camp, this story, because

3361
02:02:51.119 --> 02:02:52.260
it's trying very hard.

3362
02:02:52.319 --> 02:02:53.520
It's take itself seriously.

3363
02:02:53.579 --> 02:02:54.840
No, no, no.

3364
02:02:54.899 --> 02:02:55.619
No, no, it's not.

3365
02:02:55.619 --> 02:02:57.600
It's not disagreeing with you.

3366
02:02:57.659 --> 02:02:59.159
No, no, true.

3367
02:02:59.159 --> 02:03:00.180
I mean, Go and read that essay.

3368
02:03:00.300 --> 02:03:00.899
It's brilliant.

3369
02:03:01.140 --> 02:03:01.920
No, no, I have.

3370
02:03:01.979 --> 02:03:05.340
Don't you think this is like the 1st episode of Blake 7 where

3371
02:03:05.340 --> 02:03:06.300
Blake's put on trial?

3372
02:03:06.359 --> 02:03:08.340
No, this is fun.

3373
02:03:08.399 --> 02:03:12.180
Whereas that is all dark and talks about kitty fiddling.

3374
02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:13.859
Yeah, it is terribly good.

3375
02:03:13.920 --> 02:03:17.399
It's actually the Michael Jackson all the time, but this is this

3376
02:03:17.399 --> 02:03:22.680
is proto-serious or quasi-serious, but it's just totes camp. and

3377
02:03:22.680 --> 02:03:24.000
Ben is fabulous, of course.

3378
02:03:24.060 --> 02:03:25.800
There's enough about it that's good.

3379
02:03:25.859 --> 02:03:27.899
There's lots of stuff that is ridiculous.

3380
02:03:27.960 --> 02:03:30.840
But isn't there a lot of gays in his...

3381
02:03:30.899 --> 02:03:34.140
He's like, he's like the court clerk, if you like.

3382
02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:36.479
Yeah. was very interested.

3383
02:03:36.539 --> 02:03:38.159
Go back and rewind and have a look.

3384
02:03:38.340 --> 02:03:42.119
Don't you think that's what Terry Nation is reaching for the whole

3385
02:03:42.119 --> 02:03:42.779
time?

3386
02:03:42.840 --> 02:03:45.119
I think he's reaching for the envelope to write the entire script

3387
02:03:45.119 --> 02:03:46.020
on the back of...

3388
02:03:46.619 --> 02:03:47.279
Not 4 ideas.

3389
02:03:47.340 --> 02:03:48.359
Hello, Stephen Moff.

3390
02:03:48.420 --> 02:03:53.640
He wants to be much more garnered, grown up, an adult and stuff.

3391
02:03:53.939 --> 02:03:57.300
Well, this is, I think that's what Vasor is about.

3392
02:03:57.359 --> 02:04:02.159
I think I think Vasor is there because he wants to be edgy and

3393
02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:08.579
adult and gun and like he just misfires and ends up with sort of

3394
02:04:08.579 --> 02:04:11.340
camp and massively inappropriate.

3395
02:04:11.399 --> 02:04:19.800
They saw is the most this present, realist, scary shit in so far

3396
02:04:19.800 --> 02:04:21.840
in Doctor Who, possibly in Doctor Who of all time.

3397
02:04:21.899 --> 02:04:24.180
Oh, but don't you think it was unintentional?

3398
02:04:25.380 --> 02:04:27.840
Next episode, I think he was very writing, but I think it's very

3399
02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:28.140
effective.

3400
02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:30.960
I think everything Nation does is lazy writing.

3401
02:04:31.020 --> 02:04:32.399
You see, yeah, I think so.

3402
02:04:32.399 --> 02:04:34.859
I don't think it's not effective for that.

3403
02:04:34.920 --> 02:04:36.119
That's the big.

3404
02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:39.180
Terry Nation may not...

3405
02:04:39.180 --> 02:04:42.239
Occasionally he's groundbreaking like when he creates the Daleks.

3406
02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:43.800
Well, he doesn't really.

3407
02:04:43.859 --> 02:04:45.479
I mean, Raymond Qic creates.

3408
02:04:45.539 --> 02:04:47.039
But I would argue...

3409
02:04:47.039 --> 02:04:48.659
Yeah, the concept is actually really old.

3410
02:04:48.720 --> 02:04:50.399
Dalek invasion of Earth, perhaps.

3411
02:04:50.460 --> 02:04:52.140
But he's always reliable.

3412
02:04:52.199 --> 02:04:55.020
You're never bored watching a Terry Nation story.

3413
02:04:55.079 --> 02:04:57.960
Except in...

3414
02:04:57.960 --> 02:04:59.340
Plant of the Daleks.

3415
02:04:59.399 --> 02:05:01.680
Oh, no, Droid Invasion, I would say.

3416
02:05:01.800 --> 02:05:04.260
Three out of 4 commentators are never bought.

3417
02:05:04.319 --> 02:05:06.180
No, no, but I agree.

3418
02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:07.380
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3419
02:05:07.439 --> 02:05:08.640
He's really reliable.

3420
02:05:08.699 --> 02:05:10.739
I still love Android Inversion.

3421
02:05:10.800 --> 02:05:11.760
No, it's terrible.

3422
02:05:11.819 --> 02:05:15.060
And an interesting thought just to go to me.

3423
02:05:15.119 --> 02:05:19.439
We just had a cliffhanger where Susan has been kidnapped.

3424
02:05:19.500 --> 02:05:22.079
And of course, you know, we kind of look at Susan's character and

3425
02:05:22.079 --> 02:05:24.180
go, oh, you know, she's always falling over and twisting her ankle

3426
02:05:24.180 --> 02:05:25.920
and getting kicked. she twists her ankle once.

3427
02:05:25.979 --> 02:05:29.579
But it just occurred to me that this is really the 1st time

3428
02:05:29.579 --> 02:05:33.420
Susan's being kidnapped and the others have to rescue her.

3429
02:05:33.420 --> 02:05:36.600
In the last story, it was Barbara who got kidnapped by the

3430
02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:37.560
Hashashins.

3431
02:05:37.680 --> 02:05:39.180
Oh, good point.

3432
02:05:39.180 --> 02:05:44.159
And we could argue that's another uncomfortable rapey subtext for

3433
02:05:44.159 --> 02:05:47.819
Barbara, but they do Barbara does just say they were deciding who

3434
02:05:47.819 --> 02:05:48.720
was going to kill me.

3435
02:05:48.779 --> 02:05:51.659
Can I just say that Barbara does kidnap so well?

3436
02:05:51.720 --> 02:05:52.739
Yeah, yeah.

3437
02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:53.819
This is the problem.

3438
02:05:53.939 --> 02:05:54.779
Yeah.

3439
02:05:54.779 --> 02:05:56.640
And we discussed this time.

3440
02:05:56.699 --> 02:05:57.420
Gosh, she's good.

3441
02:05:57.479 --> 02:05:57.899
Look at this.

3442
02:05:57.960 --> 02:05:59.939
She's selling Susan's...

3443
02:05:59.939 --> 02:06:01.439
Oh no, she's...

3444
02:06:04.500 --> 02:06:07.859
But it's it's brutally truthful.

3445
02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:11.100
And that's that is my problem with with 1st and 2nd season doctor

3446
02:06:11.100 --> 02:06:15.779
is Jackie Hill is so good that she she sublimates the action and

3447
02:06:15.779 --> 02:06:16.680
makes it realistic.

3448
02:06:16.739 --> 02:06:19.800
So, unfortunately, it's no longer a comic strip.

3449
02:06:19.859 --> 02:06:21.600
I believe these terrible things are happening.

3450
02:06:21.659 --> 02:06:22.260
Yeah.

3451
02:06:22.260 --> 02:06:25.079
And it's a little, the Crusade is a great case in point.

3452
02:06:25.140 --> 02:06:26.039
It's really painful.

3453
02:06:26.100 --> 02:06:27.239
He is a terrible thing.

3454
02:06:27.300 --> 02:06:30.600
Well, yeah, he is a terrible thing, but he has...

3455
02:06:30.659 --> 02:06:33.899
But you kind of think if we got if you got someone less talented

3456
02:06:33.899 --> 02:06:37.979
in to play that part, it would have been less...

3457
02:06:38.039 --> 02:06:39.840
No, no, I agree.

3458
02:06:39.899 --> 02:06:40.739
I agree.

3459
02:06:41.220 --> 02:06:46.500
And it is, you know, the show finding its way and all sorts of, you

3460
02:06:46.500 --> 02:06:49.079
know, like experiments with tone and stuff.

3461
02:06:49.140 --> 02:06:51.060
They get it wrong a lot.

3462
02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:52.319
Star o'clock.

3463
02:06:52.380 --> 02:06:53.760
Oh, it's another...

3464
02:06:53.760 --> 02:06:58.920
I like when they're trying to do alien tech, like talking into a

3465
02:06:58.920 --> 02:07:02.579
GHD hair curler or looking at a fake clock.

3466
02:07:02.640 --> 02:07:05.640
I mean, you know, there is an attempt to do something different.

3467
02:07:05.699 --> 02:07:08.760
But then they do something really lazy, like grab a plastic phone

3468
02:07:08.760 --> 02:07:09.539
off a wall.

3469
02:07:09.539 --> 02:07:10.920
Or put a safe in.

3470
02:07:10.979 --> 02:07:12.899
Yeah.

3471
02:07:12.899 --> 02:07:14.579
But I like when they put a man in a curtain.

3472
02:07:14.640 --> 02:07:17.039
Do you know, I actually like that.

3473
02:07:17.100 --> 02:07:18.720
I actually like...

3474
02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:20.579
I've seen how you dress casually.

3475
02:07:20.579 --> 02:07:22.739
I don't mean the man in the curtain.

3476
02:07:22.800 --> 02:07:25.979
I mean, in science fiction. in a nice way.

3477
02:07:26.039 --> 02:07:29.340
Like in Battlestar Galactica, where they're constantly just are

3478
02:07:29.340 --> 02:07:32.220
pulling plastic phones out of the wall and pulling them to their

3479
02:07:32.220 --> 02:07:34.500
head. the original, the new one.

3480
02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:35.520
The new one.

3481
02:07:35.579 --> 02:07:38.880
I just think space safes and space.

3482
02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:41.939
I like space phones. would have been a bit crap.

3483
02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:43.380
Space, safe words.

3484
02:07:43.500 --> 02:07:44.880
Oh, ah!

3485
02:07:44.939 --> 02:07:50.640
The greatest moment in the history of all visualness is Babs

3486
02:07:50.640 --> 02:07:52.500
fronting Fiona Walker.

3487
02:07:52.560 --> 02:07:53.699
Wow.

3488
02:07:53.760 --> 02:07:58.560
That is the Eastern Antarctic Ice Shelf meeting the Continental

3489
02:07:58.560 --> 02:07:59.220
Drift.

3490
02:07:59.279 --> 02:08:01.680
You know that disaster is going to happen right now.

3491
02:08:01.739 --> 02:08:03.899
Also, have you admired my artwork?

3492
02:08:03.960 --> 02:08:04.380
painful.

3493
02:08:04.439 --> 02:08:06.239
Is that what we call cardi fronting?

3494
02:08:06.300 --> 02:08:06.720
It is.

3495
02:08:06.779 --> 02:08:08.159
As opposed to shirt fronting?

3496
02:08:08.220 --> 02:08:10.920
What do you think Fiona Walker does with that piece of art behind

3497
02:08:10.920 --> 02:08:11.399
the back?

3498
02:08:11.460 --> 02:08:12.420
I think she puts men through.

3499
02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:17.640
No, that that's anticipating her appearance in iClaudius because

3500
02:08:17.640 --> 02:08:20.640
it's that sort of lattice thing that always appears when the BBC

3501
02:08:20.640 --> 02:08:22.680
tries to do Rome.

3502
02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:24.960
And also, I have shit teeth.

3503
02:08:25.020 --> 02:08:29.399
Oh, no, I know, but that's the best thing about Fiona Walsh. very

3504
02:08:29.399 --> 02:08:29.760
teeth.

3505
02:08:29.819 --> 02:08:32.220
She's she's actually doing medeia.

3506
02:08:32.279 --> 02:08:33.600
She's doing Euripides right now.

3507
02:08:33.659 --> 02:08:37.020
You could all die because I'm better than all of you until I met

3508
02:08:37.020 --> 02:08:37.680
you, Barbara.

3509
02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:40.079
It's so love hate, isn't it?

3510
02:08:40.140 --> 02:08:41.819
Am I going to kill you or marry you?

3511
02:08:42.000 --> 02:08:45.300
They both of them are just trying to decide whether or not they

3512
02:08:45.300 --> 02:08:47.819
want to cross to the other side.

3513
02:08:49.199 --> 02:08:53.159
Yeah, she's found. so with Fiona Walker.

3514
02:08:53.220 --> 02:08:54.300
I'm so I just touched you.

3515
02:08:56.100 --> 02:08:59.220
Please try to understand. sitting there.

3516
02:08:59.220 --> 02:09:00.060
I'm better than you.

3517
02:09:00.119 --> 02:09:02.039
And that's why I'm amazing.

3518
02:09:02.100 --> 02:09:05.699
And by the way, furniture in that apartment, I don't know why

3519
02:09:05.699 --> 02:09:06.420
you're objecting.

3520
02:09:09.899 --> 02:09:11.579
Bless you.

3521
02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:13.319
Okay, you win that one.

3522
02:09:13.380 --> 02:09:14.939
All things will soon be heard.

3523
02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:17.340
They surely will, honey.

3524
02:09:17.399 --> 02:09:19.739
Because of course, surely will.

3525
02:09:19.800 --> 02:09:21.300
Your friends were here looking for you.

3526
02:09:21.539 --> 02:09:23.640
No, don't look hopeful.

3527
02:09:23.699 --> 02:09:26.100
I ate that. to be back.

3528
02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:30.359
This dress gives me no waste and I'm still more powerful than you

3529
02:09:30.359 --> 02:09:30.899
are also.

3530
02:09:30.960 --> 02:09:33.239
Actually, actually, Todd, your Carla.

3531
02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:35.100
Wow.

3532
02:09:35.100 --> 02:09:37.619
You would make a fabulous carla.

3533
02:09:37.680 --> 02:09:38.399
Cheers.

3534
02:09:38.399 --> 02:09:39.060
It's a lot.

3535
02:09:39.779 --> 02:09:43.439
We can bring your hair like that.

3536
02:09:43.500 --> 02:09:48.000
She's actually the best thing in this by a hairdryer mile, isn't

3537
02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:48.119
she?

3538
02:09:48.180 --> 02:09:49.500
She's really.

3539
02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:52.920
Do you know that she was a runner-up to get Barbara?

3540
02:09:52.979 --> 02:09:54.000
Stop it.

3541
02:09:54.060 --> 02:09:55.020
Oh, really?

3542
02:09:55.079 --> 02:09:56.220
That stop.

3543
02:09:57.840 --> 02:09:59.640
I just gotcha.

3544
02:09:59.699 --> 02:10:00.899
Oh, that's a shame.

3545
02:10:00.960 --> 02:10:03.659
I could believe that Why are you torturing us, Todd?

3546
02:10:03.720 --> 02:10:05.340
We've been so nice to you.

3547
02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:06.659
Oh, yeah.

3548
02:10:06.720 --> 02:10:08.220
Which, you know what?

3549
02:10:08.279 --> 02:10:09.479
If she hadn't been Barbara.

3550
02:10:09.539 --> 02:10:12.600
It would have still fit because Barbara, of course, Jackie Hill

3551
02:10:12.600 --> 02:10:13.920
came back as Alexa.

3552
02:10:13.979 --> 02:10:16.859
And the Fiona Walker Barbara would have come back as Lady

3553
02:10:16.859 --> 02:10:17.640
Painford.

3554
02:10:18.840 --> 02:10:20.699
Oh, I love this bit.

3555
02:10:20.819 --> 02:10:22.140
What is it you can't face?

3556
02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:25.439
Barbara figures out, the whole thing.

3557
02:10:26.159 --> 02:10:30.060
Merely because the villains have been explaining it to her.

3558
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:34.260
And then we get Altos thinking he's back on play school in just a

3559
02:10:34.260 --> 02:10:34.500
moment.

3560
02:10:35.100 --> 02:10:36.659
Come on.

3561
02:10:36.720 --> 02:10:37.859
We are going back.

3562
02:10:38.579 --> 02:10:40.199
Hooray.

3563
02:10:40.260 --> 02:10:40.920
Terrible.

3564
02:10:40.979 --> 02:10:42.420
Oh, yeah.

3565
02:10:42.479 --> 02:10:45.899
That goes, Ace.

3566
02:10:45.899 --> 02:10:47.159
There's a hood drive.

3567
02:10:47.279 --> 02:10:47.939
It's half cocked.

3568
02:10:48.000 --> 02:10:51.060
She's got to ruin that Vidal Sassoon, which was an entire

3569
02:10:51.060 --> 02:10:53.100
episode's budget.

3570
02:10:53.159 --> 02:10:57.119
Oh, by the way, just because you're gay, you can still go.

3571
02:10:57.659 --> 02:11:00.359
But Susan's so prepared.

3572
02:11:00.420 --> 02:11:01.500
What did they get in there?

3573
02:11:02.819 --> 02:11:07.500
They got within 10 centimetres of it without a noticing.

3574
02:11:07.800 --> 02:11:10.380
Well, she was monologuing.

3575
02:11:10.500 --> 02:11:12.180
She watched...

3576
02:11:12.180 --> 02:11:13.500
She's like monoids, but with more hair.

3577
02:11:13.560 --> 02:11:17.399
But I think they probably have a degree in space stealth.

3578
02:11:17.460 --> 02:11:19.859
Billy's been sitting there for 2 weeks.

3579
02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:23.760
He's bored. whatever.

3580
02:11:23.819 --> 02:11:24.899
He needs to get a phone.

3581
02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:28.680
I already told your old man, you cannot have my cape go away.

3582
02:11:28.979 --> 02:11:31.020
Oh, it's you.

3583
02:11:31.500 --> 02:11:34.739
Why do you think people don't wear capes anymore?

3584
02:11:34.800 --> 02:11:36.539
I used to have cape.

3585
02:11:36.600 --> 02:11:38.699
It was only a half cape.

3586
02:11:39.840 --> 02:11:43.800
It was a nurse's cape, but like it was a 50s nurse's cape.

3587
02:11:43.859 --> 02:11:44.819
I loved it.

3588
02:11:44.880 --> 02:11:47.399
We don't need to that.

3589
02:11:47.460 --> 02:11:49.079
Yeah, do I need to ask you where?

3590
02:11:49.079 --> 02:11:50.640
In what context?

3591
02:11:50.640 --> 02:11:51.960
No, we don't know what that?

3592
02:11:52.020 --> 02:11:54.840
Now, Todd, the guard in the middle there who just came through.

3593
02:11:54.840 --> 02:11:58.800
Oh, you asked who that is earlier. his name is Lan.

3594
02:11:58.859 --> 02:12:00.899
Oh, original.

3595
02:12:01.020 --> 02:12:05.640
Which Eric Saywood later used as the original name of Susan?

3596
02:12:05.699 --> 02:12:06.659
as we mentioned earlier.

3597
02:12:06.720 --> 02:12:08.760
In complete bollocks territory.

3598
02:12:08.819 --> 02:12:11.819
At which point is this just utterly terrible?

3599
02:12:11.880 --> 02:12:16.800
You know, I thought he was the Wilbur of Mr. S. Drew.

3600
02:12:16.859 --> 02:12:18.420
If only I love Mr...

3601
02:12:18.479 --> 02:12:19.920
He was an ice guard as well.

3602
02:12:19.979 --> 02:12:20.819
All the time.

3603
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:21.659
All the time.

3604
02:12:22.079 --> 02:12:25.979
Is this the point where this just stops being watchable, although

3605
02:12:25.979 --> 02:12:28.859
we have Billy, which is actually the waxwork, Billy, because he

3606
02:12:28.859 --> 02:12:31.199
was currently refusing to appear.

3607
02:12:31.319 --> 02:12:32.520
Edmund Warwick in this thing.

3608
02:12:32.579 --> 02:12:34.680
Oh, no, he moved allegedly.

3609
02:12:34.979 --> 02:12:38.399
Dan Matronic. an early version of Roger Moore.

3610
02:12:41.460 --> 02:12:45.060
I think he had something bad to eat at the BBC canteen.

3611
02:12:45.239 --> 02:12:48.420
Jackie didn't bring in a chicken this lunch.

3612
02:12:48.659 --> 02:12:50.579
It's quite short.

3613
02:12:50.640 --> 02:12:53.460
Billy was bringing in Fortman Mason hampers, which cost the

3614
02:12:53.460 --> 02:12:57.119
equivalent equivalent of a normal worker's week's pay.

3615
02:12:57.119 --> 02:12:59.220
For a Dal Sassoon haircut.

3616
02:12:59.279 --> 02:13:02.399
Yeah, yeah, no, he'd bring them in for his cast members, but he'd

3617
02:13:02.399 --> 02:13:03.539
only share them with the people he liked.

3618
02:13:03.600 --> 02:13:05.640
No, Taryn had to eat the basket.

3619
02:13:05.699 --> 02:13:08.640
Oh.

3620
02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:12.779
Are we still doing?

3621
02:13:12.840 --> 02:13:13.920
Yes.

3622
02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:14.460
Yes.

3623
02:13:14.520 --> 02:13:17.579
It's really lovely that the doctor shows so much concern for

3624
02:13:17.579 --> 02:13:17.939
Susan.

3625
02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:20.460
It's like, oh, you were held at gunpoint and tied up and almost

3626
02:13:20.460 --> 02:13:20.760
died.

3627
02:13:20.819 --> 02:13:21.840
Well, I'm glad you're okay.

3628
02:13:21.899 --> 02:13:23.340
It doesn't even look her in the eye.

3629
02:13:23.399 --> 02:13:26.819
You're so dead to me I'm still executing Ian at this point.

3630
02:13:26.880 --> 02:13:28.979
Those knobs are uneven.

3631
02:13:29.039 --> 02:13:30.180
The doorknobs are uneven.

3632
02:13:30.239 --> 02:13:31.560
Do you know what it is though?

3633
02:13:31.619 --> 02:13:35.340
The doctor was like that. as Matt Smith says, I was so young

3634
02:13:35.340 --> 02:13:35.640
then.

3635
02:13:35.699 --> 02:13:39.840
He's really, he's met Barbara, so why would you want anyone else?

3636
02:13:40.680 --> 02:13:42.960
Dum, dum, dumb.

3637
02:13:43.020 --> 02:13:45.600
In fact, since meeting Barbara.

3638
02:13:45.659 --> 02:13:53.100
Gasp, clutch, lapel, frown. grimace, pout.

3639
02:13:53.159 --> 02:13:54.539
Both of them are just selling that.

3640
02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:56.039
Oh, it's just been ruined.

3641
02:13:59.819 --> 02:14:03.119
Yeah, not Caroline's greatest.

3642
02:14:03.119 --> 02:14:05.159
And I'm her greatest fan.

3643
02:14:05.220 --> 02:14:06.119
Yeah, I know.

3644
02:14:06.119 --> 02:14:07.560
The last thing her only fan.

3645
02:14:07.619 --> 02:14:08.340
Crazy, yeah.

3646
02:14:08.399 --> 02:14:11.579
I mean, the weird thing is... husband or a special minder?

3647
02:14:11.640 --> 02:14:13.739
Is he real husband?

3648
02:14:13.800 --> 02:14:14.640
No, no, she's got a husband.

3649
02:14:14.760 --> 02:14:17.699
There's a wizard, little man, then, company. convention.

3650
02:14:17.760 --> 02:14:20.760
He was the Brian Miller all the time. she's got a stalker as

3651
02:14:20.760 --> 02:14:20.939
well.

3652
02:14:21.000 --> 02:14:22.859
Yeah, same thing. same person.

3653
02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:28.199
As, you know, we're going on about this Vidal Sassoon haircut

3654
02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:29.760
which will cost a...

3655
02:14:29.760 --> 02:14:30.899
I don't think that much of it.

3656
02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:34.560
Every story, it looks great in the 1st 5 minutes of episode one.

3657
02:14:34.619 --> 02:14:36.899
No one had ever had it before, so to speak.

3658
02:14:36.960 --> 02:14:39.479
Yeah, but the thing is, it's not it's not designed for adventuring

3659
02:14:39.479 --> 02:14:40.319
on alien planets.

3660
02:14:40.380 --> 02:14:43.319
It looks good for the 1st 5 minutes of episode one and then she

3661
02:14:43.319 --> 02:14:47.520
screams and clutches her head and it looks like... for the rest of

3662
02:14:47.520 --> 02:14:47.880
the episode.

3663
02:14:47.939 --> 02:14:50.279
Oh, it's a happy slapping hoodie.

3664
02:14:50.340 --> 02:14:51.720
You know what it is?

3665
02:14:51.840 --> 02:14:53.279
It's a security No.

3666
02:14:53.340 --> 02:14:57.119
That's a budget 1964 Reston Warrior robot.

3667
02:14:57.180 --> 02:14:58.800
Very budget.

3668
02:14:59.340 --> 02:15:03.539
But yeah, they don't even have the budget to do the cuts to jump

3669
02:15:03.539 --> 02:15:03.960
him away.

3670
02:15:04.020 --> 02:15:07.079
Gee, that's the sexiest thing ever, isn't it?

3671
02:15:07.140 --> 02:15:09.300
I love that.

3672
02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:11.699
That reminds me of my childhood.

3673
02:15:11.819 --> 02:15:12.600
Oh, Todd.

3674
02:15:12.600 --> 02:15:14.760
Oh, doors, doors.

3675
02:15:14.819 --> 02:15:17.279
Look, it's just not the same when it's not written by terror.

3676
02:15:17.399 --> 02:15:18.479
That thing's gonna hurt.

3677
02:15:18.960 --> 02:15:21.779
Well, it depends which end you start with.

3678
02:15:23.100 --> 02:15:27.359
Just remembering. who and where we are.

3679
02:15:27.420 --> 02:15:28.920
Oh.

3680
02:15:28.920 --> 02:15:32.100
It really is the best Mario robot.

3681
02:15:32.159 --> 02:15:33.060
Now, these are great.

3682
02:15:33.060 --> 02:15:33.840
Billy's here.

3683
02:15:33.899 --> 02:15:36.479
These are the 3 that we should be doing snorg movies.

3684
02:15:36.600 --> 02:15:38.399
I thought it was him.

3685
02:15:38.460 --> 02:15:39.359
Call the poison.

3686
02:15:39.479 --> 02:15:41.279
It wasn't Tauron.

3687
02:15:41.399 --> 02:15:44.699
Do you know, but that was Billy's hero moment.

3688
02:15:44.760 --> 02:15:47.039
Is that the 1st time he intentionally solves the problem?

3689
02:15:47.100 --> 02:15:48.359
Yeah, yep, yep.

3690
02:15:48.420 --> 02:15:49.319
Yeah, it is.

3691
02:15:49.380 --> 02:15:54.479
Goes back to help Arbiter and then smells his fascism on...

3692
02:15:54.539 --> 02:15:58.439
Also, suddenly the Prussians are our biggest friends because

3693
02:15:58.439 --> 02:15:59.159
NATO.

3694
02:16:00.060 --> 02:16:02.100
Still the prosecutor.

3695
02:16:02.159 --> 02:16:03.119
No, everything.

3696
02:16:03.119 --> 02:16:04.739
NATO is irrelevant these days.

3697
02:16:04.800 --> 02:16:06.659
Only because Donald Trump tells us to.

3698
02:16:06.720 --> 02:16:07.260
Yeah, yeah.

3699
02:16:07.319 --> 02:16:08.880
We believe him.

3700
02:16:09.000 --> 02:16:12.180
The weird thing is, it's kind of a bit like Scarlioni scheme and

3701
02:16:12.180 --> 02:16:14.640
like they've planned to steal the key and sell it.

3702
02:16:14.699 --> 02:16:15.899
It's like there's 5 of them.

3703
02:16:16.079 --> 02:16:18.960
Boy, how are you going to sell that on eBay?

3704
02:16:19.020 --> 02:16:20.460
Boys, boys, and love.

3705
02:16:21.359 --> 02:16:26.520
Billy drops his 1st famous name and it's Piro, the philosopher who

3706
02:16:26.520 --> 02:16:27.359
no one's heard of.

3707
02:16:27.420 --> 02:16:31.079
Well, actually he dropped Gilbert and Sullivan in the Edge of

3708
02:16:31.079 --> 02:16:31.319
Destruction.

3709
02:16:31.439 --> 02:16:32.520
Yeah, they're fictional.

3710
02:16:32.579 --> 02:16:34.440
You are such fans.

3711
02:16:34.860 --> 02:16:36.840
Gentle persons.

3712
02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:43.500
This story, dear listener, is reaching your dulcet drums at what

3713
02:16:43.500 --> 02:16:43.920
month?

3714
02:16:44.459 --> 02:16:49.200
This would be going out in end of October or beginning of

3715
02:16:49.200 --> 02:16:49.500
November.

3716
02:16:49.559 --> 02:16:53.100
Do you realise the American elections are at that time, beginning

3717
02:16:53.100 --> 02:16:55.799
of November, we might actually have Trump as president when this

3718
02:16:55.799 --> 02:16:56.219
goes out?

3719
02:16:56.280 --> 02:16:59.819
Will everyone will be dead by then, then no one will hear this.

3720
02:16:59.879 --> 02:17:02.579
Okay, that makes keys of mariners seem like reality.

3721
02:17:02.819 --> 02:17:06.540
Well, let's just do an optional and I'll drop this back in.

3722
02:17:06.600 --> 02:17:07.319
No, I won't.

3723
02:17:07.379 --> 02:17:09.899
We could have Hillary Clinton as president by then.

3724
02:17:09.959 --> 02:17:14.520
We could have that Zoltan guy who thinks we should upload our

3725
02:17:14.520 --> 02:17:16.319
brains to computers as president by then.

3726
02:17:16.379 --> 02:17:17.459
Horrible Zoden.

3727
02:17:17.459 --> 02:17:21.420
And there's someone else who wants to cure things between the

3728
02:17:21.420 --> 02:17:23.700
president and it's entirely possible.

3729
02:17:23.760 --> 02:17:29.219
I think the keys of mariners could indeed be Robert Graves light

3730
02:17:29.219 --> 02:17:31.319
story of what is going to happen.

3731
02:17:31.379 --> 02:17:35.159
I heard a general on the Philip Adams Late Night Live podcast

3732
02:17:35.159 --> 02:17:36.780
which you can find anywhere in the world.

3733
02:17:36.840 --> 02:17:39.840
An ex-general, very senior military guy.

3734
02:17:39.899 --> 02:17:41.280
Adam said to him.

3735
02:17:41.520 --> 02:17:46.559
So if Trump becomes president yet, that's not going to happen, he

3736
02:17:46.559 --> 02:17:49.200
said, well, you know, if it could, you know, it's true, isn't it?

3737
02:17:49.260 --> 02:17:51.959
The president still, I mean, Obama still carries around the

3738
02:17:51.959 --> 02:17:53.100
suitcase with the red button.

3739
02:17:53.159 --> 02:17:55.319
That's not an episode of The Simpsons.

3740
02:17:55.379 --> 02:17:55.979
That really happens.

3741
02:17:56.040 --> 02:17:58.139
And the general said, yes, that is true.

3742
02:17:58.200 --> 02:18:00.600
The president is the CIC of the armed forces.

3743
02:18:00.659 --> 02:18:04.379
So if Trump becomes, you know, CIC, he said, that will not

3744
02:18:04.379 --> 02:18:04.739
happen.

3745
02:18:04.799 --> 02:18:08.219
Yeah, that's a very hair on the left. something is going to

3746
02:18:08.219 --> 02:18:08.399
happen.

3747
02:18:08.459 --> 02:18:10.559
Something is going to happen, dear listener, and I think it's

3748
02:18:10.559 --> 02:18:11.819
going to do with Zen.

3749
02:18:11.879 --> 02:18:14.940
Oh my god, this is so kinky. exhausted.

3750
02:18:15.059 --> 02:18:19.500
Now, inside the suit as Yartek, leader of the alien vault.

3751
02:18:19.500 --> 02:18:20.940
Caroline Ford.

3752
02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:22.500
Is Stephen Dartnell?

3753
02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:25.979
Who is later on in sense or...

3754
02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:26.219
Yes.

3755
02:18:26.219 --> 02:18:29.459
I think it becomes professor of mediaeval French poetry.

3756
02:18:29.520 --> 02:18:30.360
Richard Cambridge?

3757
02:18:30.420 --> 02:18:31.500
Oh, yeah, Mamoto.

3758
02:18:31.500 --> 02:18:34.799
Stephen Dartnell in the censor rights is John.

3759
02:18:34.860 --> 02:18:37.860
The crewman who's mad at the beginning and is cured.

3760
02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:41.459
Oh, the day really looked alike. covered this.

3761
02:18:41.819 --> 02:18:43.860
He's Arbitan.

3762
02:18:43.920 --> 02:18:45.299
He's...

3763
02:18:45.360 --> 02:18:48.120
Can you cover this in the most exciting episode of our podcast for

3764
02:18:48.120 --> 02:18:48.600
all time?

3765
02:18:48.659 --> 02:18:51.659
Sabita actually gets quite a heroic moment here.

3766
02:18:51.719 --> 02:18:52.680
She does.

3767
02:18:52.739 --> 02:18:55.379
She's really the Agnita of this story.

3768
02:18:55.500 --> 02:18:57.780
Also, that mask is terrifying.

3769
02:18:57.840 --> 02:18:59.879
I believe they're considering...

3770
02:18:59.940 --> 02:19:03.299
And there's his eye. at this point and leaving Susan behind.

3771
02:19:04.319 --> 02:19:06.780
Look, there's Stephen Dartnell's eye.

3772
02:19:06.840 --> 02:19:07.440
He just blinks.

3773
02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:08.579
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3774
02:19:08.639 --> 02:19:09.959
This is a beautiful mask.

3775
02:19:10.020 --> 02:19:12.059
I'm feeling quite.

3776
02:19:12.239 --> 02:19:13.979
I'm feeling a lot of mixed emotions right now.

3777
02:19:14.040 --> 02:19:15.059
How are you all feeling?

3778
02:19:15.120 --> 02:19:15.840
You know what?

3779
02:19:15.899 --> 02:19:19.920
I am and I am not judging anyone who is, but personally, I am not

3780
02:19:19.920 --> 02:19:24.120
interested in rubber or wetsuits, but I wouldn't mind a board

3781
02:19:24.120 --> 02:19:24.719
mask.

3782
02:19:24.780 --> 02:19:26.040
They are a beautiful creation.

3783
02:19:26.940 --> 02:19:28.500
Also, a little bit scary.

3784
02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:31.260
Also, there's no reason that can't be a human underneath it.

3785
02:19:31.319 --> 02:19:35.399
I have to say that I'm feeling somewhere between 0 and one

3786
02:19:35.399 --> 02:19:36.780
emotions at the moment.

3787
02:19:36.899 --> 02:19:39.540
You're very binary on this, aren't you?

3788
02:19:39.600 --> 02:19:41.760
No, no, it could be a continuum.

3789
02:19:41.819 --> 02:19:43.379
It might be sort of 0.5.

3790
02:19:43.559 --> 02:19:45.540
Well, there are 10 types of people in this world.

3791
02:19:45.600 --> 02:19:46.559
Yeah, yeah.

3792
02:19:46.680 --> 02:19:48.479
No, there are 18 according to them.

3793
02:19:48.479 --> 02:19:50.879
No, those are in county binary and those who can't.

3794
02:19:50.940 --> 02:19:52.319
I'm not buying this.

3795
02:19:52.379 --> 02:19:53.819
They're not going to get married.

3796
02:19:53.879 --> 02:19:56.520
She's going to be bitterly disappointed later if they do.

3797
02:19:56.940 --> 02:19:58.620
What's happening?

3798
02:19:58.680 --> 02:20:04.200
She's discovered that her father has pledged to marry Yartek

3799
02:20:04.200 --> 02:20:06.000
barely involved.

3800
02:20:06.059 --> 02:20:06.899
Oh, look at you.

3801
02:20:06.899 --> 02:20:08.280
And she was like super upset.

3802
02:20:08.340 --> 02:20:12.299
It's like a whole family tradition thing happening.

3803
02:20:12.360 --> 02:20:14.520
Oh, it's a comedy moment.

3804
02:20:14.639 --> 02:20:15.659
Scooby Dooby Doo.

3805
02:20:15.719 --> 02:20:16.200
I do like that.

3806
02:20:16.260 --> 02:20:18.959
Yeah, can't we do that thing where we were falling into the

3807
02:20:18.959 --> 02:20:20.280
walls?

3808
02:20:20.340 --> 02:20:21.959
Sacre blur.

3809
02:20:22.680 --> 02:20:26.819
No, I think I think Sabetha Vera has just discovered that Altos

3810
02:20:26.819 --> 02:20:28.979
wants to stay behind with the men in the rubber suit.its.

3811
02:20:30.540 --> 02:20:33.059
It's an old story as well.

3812
02:20:33.120 --> 02:20:34.139
Grandfather.

3813
02:20:34.379 --> 02:20:36.659
Drive around the pit.

3814
02:20:36.719 --> 02:20:37.500
No, that's it.

3815
02:20:37.559 --> 02:20:40.620
If only they would allow gay marriage on mariners.

3816
02:20:40.680 --> 02:20:41.700
This sort of thing wouldn't happen.

3817
02:20:42.120 --> 02:20:44.700
Barbara and Carla could get married.

3818
02:20:44.760 --> 02:20:46.500
Barbara and Carla will get married.

3819
02:20:46.559 --> 02:20:48.120
Take over the whole world.

3820
02:20:48.239 --> 02:20:51.600
Sabitha and Altos wouldn't have to get married just to sort of

3821
02:20:51.600 --> 02:20:56.040
hide things so that he would sneak off with Yardec of the alien

3822
02:20:56.040 --> 02:20:56.459
board.

3823
02:20:56.520 --> 02:20:59.040
I love that he's kept on Arbiton's robe.

3824
02:20:59.459 --> 02:21:03.540
There's like, at this point, there's literally, he will use it

3825
02:21:03.540 --> 02:21:06.600
later, but at this point, there's literally no reason for it other

3826
02:21:06.600 --> 02:21:08.340
than him going, yeah, I like this.

3827
02:21:08.520 --> 02:21:10.739
I'm going to wear the robe.

3828
02:21:10.799 --> 02:21:11.819
I'm going to wear the bling.

3829
02:21:11.879 --> 02:21:12.540
Yep.

3830
02:21:12.540 --> 02:21:13.920
So you've got...

3831
02:21:13.920 --> 02:21:16.020
I'm going to keep the...

3832
02:21:16.079 --> 02:21:19.139
I just laugh every time, like he says, keep away, the radiation

3833
02:21:19.139 --> 02:21:20.819
from the machine has affected me.

3834
02:21:20.879 --> 02:21:24.059
Have you you've been watching The Greatest Generation?

3835
02:21:24.180 --> 02:21:26.100
I've listened to a few.

3836
02:21:26.159 --> 02:21:26.399
Yeah.

3837
02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:27.540
Bruce Foresight, yeah.

3838
02:21:27.600 --> 02:21:28.079
Yeah.

3839
02:21:28.139 --> 02:21:31.440
And you know that they have the This is beautiful, by the way.

3840
02:21:31.500 --> 02:21:32.100
Look at that.

3841
02:21:32.159 --> 02:21:37.680
No, like Yartec sticking isolinear chips from the Enterprise into

3842
02:21:37.680 --> 02:21:39.059
the theme.

3843
02:21:39.180 --> 02:21:41.219
Also, that's a loving touch.

3844
02:21:41.280 --> 02:21:42.059
Did you just see that?

3845
02:21:42.120 --> 02:21:43.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3846
02:21:43.799 --> 02:21:46.559
He met he met every single gesture of that.

3847
02:21:46.620 --> 02:21:51.059
Big finish has, of course, brought the board back in a story

3848
02:21:51.059 --> 02:21:52.319
called Domain of the board.

3849
02:21:52.379 --> 02:21:53.280
I've not heard it yet.

3850
02:21:53.399 --> 02:21:56.280
But it's had good reviews that evokes the era very well.

3851
02:21:57.479 --> 02:22:01.559
Is it set in between episodes one and 2 of the episode?

3852
02:22:02.100 --> 02:22:02.399
version.

3853
02:22:02.459 --> 02:22:03.360
It's great.

3854
02:22:03.780 --> 02:22:06.059
Yes, whatever.

3855
02:22:06.059 --> 02:22:07.379
The domain of the board.

3856
02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:10.260
That's rubbish. should be called vengeance of the Vore.

3857
02:22:10.979 --> 02:22:13.260
Vengeance on Vortos.

3858
02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:14.579
Yeah, yeah, brilliant.

3859
02:22:14.819 --> 02:22:16.260
See?

3860
02:22:16.319 --> 02:22:16.860
Big finish.

3861
02:22:16.920 --> 02:22:17.399
Hi at me.

3862
02:22:20.520 --> 02:22:23.040
They never accept my pictures.

3863
02:22:23.100 --> 02:22:24.840
I've got a great story for the valiard.

3864
02:22:24.899 --> 02:22:27.059
Yeah, they bastards.

3865
02:22:27.120 --> 02:22:29.639
Michael Jason doesn't get any work.

3866
02:22:29.700 --> 02:22:31.680
For God's sake, he'd be grateful for it.

3867
02:22:31.920 --> 02:22:37.860
Well, he still is trying to petition the BBC that he's actually a

3868
02:22:37.860 --> 02:22:38.159
doctor.

3869
02:22:38.879 --> 02:22:41.219
You didn't know this, don't you?

3870
02:22:41.280 --> 02:22:42.299
God, really?

3871
02:22:42.360 --> 02:22:47.100
Yeah, everyone were at the convention in... in Los Angeles.

3872
02:22:47.159 --> 02:22:49.739
Like he was guest and saying, oh, you're telling everybody, you

3873
02:22:49.739 --> 02:22:51.479
know, that he actually is a doctor.

3874
02:22:51.540 --> 02:22:52.260
Oh, here we go.

3875
02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:56.520
Look, it look, it always looks like one of those little people

3876
02:22:56.579 --> 02:22:57.600
mask off.

3877
02:22:57.659 --> 02:23:00.420
He looks like the veneer when they've got their hood up.

3878
02:23:00.659 --> 02:23:02.579
In terminus.

3879
02:23:02.639 --> 02:23:03.239
What?

3880
02:23:03.299 --> 02:23:03.719
What's that?

3881
02:23:04.559 --> 02:23:07.200
I don't know anything about it How is this 6 episodes and it's

3882
02:23:07.200 --> 02:23:08.700
more entertaining than terminus at four?

3883
02:23:08.760 --> 02:23:09.659
No, it is.

3884
02:23:09.719 --> 02:23:10.559
Anything.

3885
02:23:11.219 --> 02:23:13.559
This is a lot more fun, isn't it?

3886
02:23:13.680 --> 02:23:16.379
Because they know they can't stretch any of the little stories out

3887
02:23:16.379 --> 02:23:17.340
so they don't try to.

3888
02:23:17.399 --> 02:23:20.700
No, that's that thing I say in our actual original podcast.

3889
02:23:21.239 --> 02:23:24.659
Everything's quite tiresome, but it's over quite quickly.

3890
02:23:24.780 --> 02:23:27.479
The power from a machine has escaped.

3891
02:23:27.540 --> 02:23:29.459
Actually, Todd, this is...

3892
02:23:29.520 --> 02:23:31.799
This is exactly what you were talking about, Interpretus, where

3893
02:23:31.799 --> 02:23:34.559
Olvia can't move 2 inches forward to grab the gub.

3894
02:23:34.620 --> 02:23:35.819
I think that was me.

3895
02:23:35.879 --> 02:23:36.360
Okay.

3896
02:23:36.659 --> 02:23:42.659
It's a beautiful set The restrictions of theatre acting are

3897
02:23:42.659 --> 02:23:46.319
unfortunately, prescribing this kind of awkward response from

3898
02:23:46.319 --> 02:23:48.420
Yartik leader of the alien board.com.

3899
02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:53.159
And we can't just look into your face and note just that...

3900
02:23:53.219 --> 02:23:54.659
Well, no, no, no.

3901
02:23:54.719 --> 02:23:56.459
Although he's a totally different size.

3902
02:23:56.520 --> 02:24:00.659
Yeah, he could be standing behind the machine, which is

3903
02:24:00.659 --> 02:24:01.920
unfortunate.

3904
02:24:01.979 --> 02:24:02.340
Yeah.

3905
02:24:02.340 --> 02:24:04.079
Damn it, John Gory.

3906
02:24:04.139 --> 02:24:07.319
Yeah, in fact, really, the sets are quite interesting and the

3907
02:24:07.319 --> 02:24:08.219
lighting is great.

3908
02:24:08.280 --> 02:24:09.420
He could have done this a lot better.

3909
02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:14.040
It would have made more sense if, um, yeah, if it stood somewhere

3910
02:24:14.040 --> 02:24:14.520
else.

3911
02:24:14.579 --> 02:24:18.659
What you said in the 1st episode where, you know, you've got those

3912
02:24:18.659 --> 02:24:22.799
gorgeous, serrated heels in the background that are really

3913
02:24:22.799 --> 02:24:23.760
theatring.

3914
02:24:23.819 --> 02:24:27.059
Ooh, you could get some lovely bit of cheddar on that, couldn't

3915
02:24:27.059 --> 02:24:27.180
you?

3916
02:24:27.239 --> 02:24:27.780
Yeah.

3917
02:24:27.840 --> 02:24:30.840
No, it doesn't need to be realistic.

3918
02:24:30.899 --> 02:24:32.879
I mean, the level at which they're operating.

3919
02:24:33.000 --> 02:24:36.899
I think the realism or the sense of drama is heightened by the

3920
02:24:36.899 --> 02:24:37.739
unreality.

3921
02:24:37.799 --> 02:24:39.120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3922
02:24:39.120 --> 02:24:39.719
The representation.

3923
02:24:39.780 --> 02:24:42.479
You focus more on the performances, your dreamlike state.

3924
02:24:42.540 --> 02:24:44.940
The other thing to consider is...

3925
02:24:44.940 --> 02:24:45.959
It was me on the time.

3926
02:24:45.959 --> 02:24:47.639
I just can't get this stupid hair on.

3927
02:24:48.180 --> 02:24:52.200
What the hell are these haunts for except for things to do when

3928
02:24:52.200 --> 02:24:53.579
they grabbed them with your friends?

3929
02:24:53.639 --> 02:24:55.440
Tinky, Winky, shut up.

3930
02:24:55.500 --> 02:24:56.520
It's my scene.

3931
02:24:56.579 --> 02:24:58.559
They detect etheric commissions.

3932
02:24:58.680 --> 02:25:02.040
But we are we are still in lime grove at this stage.

3933
02:25:02.040 --> 02:25:03.000
It's tiny.

3934
02:25:03.059 --> 02:25:08.579
And we've got, we've got the conscience, conscience sets and we've

3935
02:25:08.579 --> 02:25:13.979
also got the courtroom, the courtroom antechamber set, and Carla

3936
02:25:13.979 --> 02:25:14.280
set.

3937
02:25:14.459 --> 02:25:15.479
I can smell tossed.

3938
02:25:15.540 --> 02:25:16.260
Is that bad?

3939
02:25:16.260 --> 02:25:17.159
on the same day.

3940
02:25:17.219 --> 02:25:20.940
And they would have had to set these back up again from...

3941
02:25:20.940 --> 02:25:21.420
Six weeks ago.

3942
02:25:21.479 --> 02:25:22.020
Yeah.

3943
02:25:22.020 --> 02:25:24.420
You know, so filmed like that, didn't they?

3944
02:25:24.479 --> 02:25:29.219
Ideally, I think I seem to recall Raymond Cusick saying, Lime

3945
02:25:29.219 --> 02:25:31.379
Grove, you could just fit 6 sets.

3946
02:25:31.440 --> 02:25:34.079
So we've had the cell, we've had this corridor, we've got the

3947
02:25:34.079 --> 02:25:34.860
conscience room.

3948
02:25:35.520 --> 02:25:37.920
We've got Carla's flat.

3949
02:25:37.979 --> 02:25:38.760
We've got...

3950
02:25:38.760 --> 02:25:39.840
Yes, we do have legs.

3951
02:25:39.899 --> 02:25:44.100
We've got reception and we'll have an exterior set soon, so that's

3952
02:25:44.100 --> 02:25:44.399
your six.

3953
02:25:45.479 --> 02:25:48.719
Carcinome set before it ever appeared.

3954
02:25:48.780 --> 02:25:51.000
Yeah, you know, you're probably right, Richard.

3955
02:25:51.059 --> 02:25:52.979
Altos is kissing all the girls.

3956
02:25:53.040 --> 02:25:55.860
Yes, such a faker.

3957
02:25:55.920 --> 02:25:56.639
Yeah, I know.

3958
02:25:56.700 --> 02:25:58.799
So in the new version, I love those boots.

3959
02:25:58.860 --> 02:26:00.659
The boots are great, aren't they?

3960
02:26:00.780 --> 02:26:02.579
And the new version of you played by Tom Cruise.

3961
02:26:02.700 --> 02:26:04.139
I'm okay.

3962
02:26:04.200 --> 02:26:04.799
I'm not gay.

3963
02:26:04.860 --> 02:26:06.120
I'm in love with Kitty Holmes.

3964
02:26:07.319 --> 02:26:10.920
I'm going to bounce on your side, particularly believe me.

3965
02:26:10.979 --> 02:26:12.659
My dear boy.

3966
02:26:12.719 --> 02:26:16.799
I love I love Sabita's reaction. like, you stupid boy.

3967
02:26:17.219 --> 02:26:20.219
Then a whole thing's going to explode.

3968
02:26:20.280 --> 02:26:24.299
You said the machine in motion. was it the power?

3969
02:26:24.360 --> 02:26:26.100
I can't remember what...

3970
02:26:26.100 --> 02:26:26.879
He'll know all about it.

3971
02:26:27.059 --> 02:26:30.479
What actually happens to the doe decahedron.

3972
02:26:30.540 --> 02:26:34.860
Well, they just said them when Yartec puts in the false key, it'll

3973
02:26:34.860 --> 02:26:35.159
blow up.

3974
02:26:35.219 --> 02:26:36.059
Oh, really?

3975
02:26:36.059 --> 02:26:42.360
So why would the fail safe be the whole James Bond Lotus?

3976
02:26:42.420 --> 02:26:42.719
Yeah, yeah.

3977
02:26:42.780 --> 02:26:46.440
It was made by the people who made the James Bond latest from Fure

3978
02:26:46.440 --> 02:26:46.920
Eyes only.

3979
02:26:46.979 --> 02:26:48.239
I love that they can't get out.

3980
02:26:48.299 --> 02:26:50.159
Fiona Walker only.

3981
02:26:50.219 --> 02:26:52.319
For God's sake, we just fairly know.

3982
02:26:52.379 --> 02:26:54.059
By the way, I'm right behind you, look.

3983
02:26:57.180 --> 02:26:58.979
Why haven't you obeyed my commands?

3984
02:26:59.040 --> 02:27:00.180
I'm the one in the suit.

3985
02:27:00.239 --> 02:27:01.020
Oh, we both are.

3986
02:27:01.079 --> 02:27:01.979
Okay, I can see that.

3987
02:27:02.040 --> 02:27:02.940
But I have a cloak.

3988
02:27:03.000 --> 02:27:05.639
Yeah, well, you know, I'm still in the gimp, yeah.

3989
02:27:05.700 --> 02:27:06.239
Of course.

3990
02:27:06.299 --> 02:27:07.559
It's a Zentai.

3991
02:27:07.620 --> 02:27:11.579
I will say, I think Terry Nation is quite clever here in that he's

3992
02:27:11.579 --> 02:27:16.020
avoiding making a comment as to whether this thought control

3993
02:27:16.020 --> 02:27:18.360
device is right or wrong by just blowing it up.

3994
02:27:18.719 --> 02:27:22.920
I actually reckon he just hasn't thought about the implications of

3995
02:27:22.920 --> 02:27:23.100
it.

3996
02:27:23.159 --> 02:27:24.180
I'm with you.

3997
02:27:24.239 --> 02:27:25.799
Todd, what do you think?

3998
02:27:25.860 --> 02:27:28.020
You're the only sober one here.

3999
02:27:28.079 --> 02:27:29.579
Oh, I agree.

4000
02:27:29.639 --> 02:27:31.559
Oh, that's an explosion?

4001
02:27:31.559 --> 02:27:33.420
Oh, yeah, that's...

4002
02:27:33.540 --> 02:27:34.620
Oh, they found the door.

4003
02:27:34.680 --> 02:27:37.559
But no, he often in his stuff, he doesn't really, there's a

4004
02:27:37.559 --> 02:27:40.260
concept, but it's not necessarily thought through.

4005
02:27:40.319 --> 02:27:40.799
No.

4006
02:27:40.799 --> 02:27:42.780
Yeah, it's a bit like Kevin Jane Baker, really.

4007
02:27:42.959 --> 02:27:44.700
Fighting words.

4008
02:27:44.760 --> 02:27:48.180
Yes, you're gone, and even younger than my granddaughter.

4009
02:27:48.299 --> 02:27:53.700
And pull in tight because we've got like 3 feet of set around us.

4010
02:27:53.760 --> 02:27:55.079
Fine by me.

4011
02:27:55.139 --> 02:27:58.440
I'm really sad that I won't be coming with you, no more work for

4012
02:27:58.440 --> 02:27:58.559
me.

4013
02:28:01.680 --> 02:28:03.659
She'll probably become an actor's agent.

4014
02:28:06.719 --> 02:28:08.760
Like that's never happened before.

4015
02:28:08.819 --> 02:28:14.520
Almost never happens. leaving you here to die on this planet with

4016
02:28:14.520 --> 02:28:14.940
nothing.

4017
02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:16.379
Oh, no, wait a second.

4018
02:28:16.440 --> 02:28:16.680
Come in.

4019
02:28:16.739 --> 02:28:18.360
We'll return to that later.

4020
02:28:18.600 --> 02:28:21.000
We'll be happy with her on the train.

4021
02:28:21.659 --> 02:28:23.219
Who's Sabitha?

4022
02:28:23.280 --> 02:28:23.579
Yeah.

4023
02:28:23.639 --> 02:28:24.360
No, she's terrible.

4024
02:28:24.659 --> 02:28:26.340
Why?

4025
02:28:26.399 --> 02:28:27.959
Altos.

4026
02:28:28.020 --> 02:28:30.059
Although he's kind of hideous.

4027
02:28:30.120 --> 02:28:31.139
Oh, really?

4028
02:28:31.200 --> 02:28:32.879
He's just a wax strip, isn't he?

4029
02:28:32.940 --> 02:28:34.799
And look, he's still in his dressing gown.

4030
02:28:34.860 --> 02:28:35.700
Yeah, well, couldn't you?

4031
02:28:35.760 --> 02:28:36.899
Oh, yes.

4032
02:28:36.959 --> 02:28:38.100
Kissy, kissy.

4033
02:28:38.159 --> 02:28:38.760
Bye bye.

4034
02:28:38.819 --> 02:28:39.719
I had a shit time.

4035
02:28:39.780 --> 02:28:41.819
I'm never coming back So what's happening next?

4036
02:28:41.940 --> 02:28:43.979
I just heard Barbara say that.

4037
02:28:44.040 --> 02:28:45.299
What's the main story?

4038
02:28:45.719 --> 02:28:47.639
The Aztecs.

4039
02:28:47.760 --> 02:28:49.379
That's terrible.

4040
02:28:49.440 --> 02:28:53.760
Now, um, Catherine's Schofielders, Sabitha, actually had quite a

4041
02:28:53.760 --> 02:28:58.379
long career through to 1989. name to Paul Scofield when she

4042
02:28:58.379 --> 02:28:58.680
retired.

4043
02:28:58.739 --> 02:29:01.020
Led as King Lear at the RSC.

4044
02:29:01.079 --> 02:29:01.500
She was amazing.

4045
02:29:01.559 --> 02:29:04.979
Listeners of this podcast may recognise her from the movie Life

4046
02:29:04.979 --> 02:29:09.120
Force, but also the naked civil servant in which she played Mrs

4047
02:29:09.120 --> 02:29:09.659
Pole.

4048
02:29:09.719 --> 02:29:10.559
Oh.

4049
02:29:10.559 --> 02:29:15.059
Is she dead body number 3 in an episode of Murder she wrote.

4050
02:29:15.120 --> 02:29:17.219
Well, weren't we all?

4051
02:29:17.280 --> 02:29:18.959
She played...

4052
02:29:18.959 --> 02:29:20.159
I love the way that Bruce left.

4053
02:29:20.219 --> 02:29:21.239
It's really good, isn't it?

4054
02:29:21.299 --> 02:29:22.680
It's actually quite enjoyable.

4055
02:29:22.739 --> 02:29:23.700
Are you telling me we have another?

4056
02:29:23.819 --> 02:29:25.020
No, no, I love his story.

4057
02:29:26.159 --> 02:29:28.920
That's the 1st episode of the Aztec is Temple of Evil.

4058
02:29:28.979 --> 02:29:30.659
I mean, wasn't I grown?

4059
02:29:30.719 --> 02:29:33.719
Well, gentlemen, final thought. top of my head.

4060
02:29:33.780 --> 02:29:36.059
That didn't feel quite as long as I thought it would.

4061
02:29:36.120 --> 02:29:37.079
How about you, Todd?

4062
02:29:37.139 --> 02:29:38.940
No, that's what Altos said.

4063
02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:40.319
Sorry, Todd, carry on.

4064
02:29:40.379 --> 02:29:41.159
No, that's fine.

4065
02:29:41.760 --> 02:29:46.920
Actually, Todd, my thighs are sort of pretty cold at the moment.

4066
02:29:46.979 --> 02:29:48.120
Are they, Nathan?

4067
02:29:48.180 --> 02:29:49.020
Make me just help you.

4068
02:29:49.079 --> 02:29:49.860
Thanks, darling.

4069
02:29:49.920 --> 02:29:50.700
How are yours?

4070
02:29:50.700 --> 02:29:53.159
Oh, I think we might need some tag.

4071
02:29:53.879 --> 02:29:57.180
Duffy dare. did a great job.

4072
02:29:57.239 --> 02:30:00.180
Nathan, do you still love it?

4073
02:30:00.239 --> 02:30:06.780
I actually think this is a romp and it is something like it's a

4074
02:30:06.780 --> 02:30:07.079
romp.

4075
02:30:07.200 --> 02:30:11.340
It's an avenue that the show didn't quite take. ever again for

4076
02:30:11.340 --> 02:30:11.819
some reason.

4077
02:30:11.879 --> 02:30:13.440
Well, except for chase.

4078
02:30:13.500 --> 02:30:16.680
Yeah, and that's what I like about the chase and even the bits

4079
02:30:16.680 --> 02:30:19.260
about Dalek masterplan that I like do the same thing.

4080
02:30:19.319 --> 02:30:21.000
You know what doesn't work in this story?

4081
02:30:21.059 --> 02:30:21.899
John Gory.

4082
02:30:21.959 --> 02:30:26.040
I think if we had a more resolved and rounded director, it would

4083
02:30:26.040 --> 02:30:26.700
have been superb.

4084
02:30:26.819 --> 02:30:28.260
It's really early though.

4085
02:30:28.319 --> 02:30:30.120
It's really early.

4086
02:30:30.180 --> 02:30:31.739
They're still fighting their way.

4087
02:30:31.799 --> 02:30:33.840
Brendan, what else have John Gory done?

4088
02:30:34.319 --> 02:30:37.979
Off the top of my head, I don't know. and we are back at the menu

4089
02:30:37.979 --> 02:30:38.219
now.

4090
02:30:38.819 --> 02:30:40.739
He had done stuff.

4091
02:30:40.799 --> 02:30:41.280
You know what?

4092
02:30:41.340 --> 02:30:44.639
Much like Terry Nation, he's reliable and he gets the job done.

4093
02:30:44.700 --> 02:30:47.879
But yes, you're right. could have been more spectacular.

4094
02:30:47.940 --> 02:30:48.659
For me...

4095
02:30:48.659 --> 02:30:49.500
You just hit it.

4096
02:30:49.559 --> 02:30:50.399
Sorry, you just hit it.

4097
02:30:50.459 --> 02:30:51.780
That's what Terry does.

4098
02:30:51.840 --> 02:30:55.500
So you actually need someone to sublimate and elevate or you're

4099
02:30:55.500 --> 02:30:57.780
just going to end up with...

4100
02:30:57.840 --> 02:31:00.360
And I know you have Richard Martin doing the chase.

4101
02:31:00.479 --> 02:31:02.940
Yeah, but I love the chase.

4102
02:31:03.000 --> 02:31:06.840
And then we get Dougie Campfield doing...

4103
02:31:06.899 --> 02:31:08.399
That's why...

4104
02:31:08.399 --> 02:31:09.239
Duggee Campfield.

4105
02:31:09.299 --> 02:31:10.020
You know what?

4106
02:31:10.079 --> 02:31:12.959
If you've enjoyed the episodic nature of this and bouncing around

4107
02:31:12.959 --> 02:31:14.040
to different locations.

4108
02:31:14.100 --> 02:31:17.399
Also check out the 1st series of dark eyes.

4109
02:31:17.399 --> 02:31:18.780
Oh, really?

4110
02:31:18.840 --> 02:31:20.760
Yeah, yeah, because I love dark eyes.

4111
02:31:20.819 --> 02:31:23.040
That's that's very popping about to different places.

4112
02:31:23.100 --> 02:31:25.020
But it's also really nicely done.

4113
02:31:25.079 --> 02:31:27.059
But I actually think it's sliders.

4114
02:31:27.120 --> 02:31:30.360
That pops around to different places too. kind of terrible.

4115
02:31:30.420 --> 02:31:35.760
But I think that the new series does that in the early seasons

4116
02:31:35.760 --> 02:31:40.440
where the the idea, you know, the concept of a story and an

4117
02:31:40.440 --> 02:31:43.680
episode is still kind of like not completely settled.

4118
02:31:43.799 --> 02:31:47.100
Is the Eccleston series still that your favourite of the new?

4119
02:31:47.100 --> 02:31:48.120
Maybe.

4120
02:31:48.120 --> 02:31:49.020
Of the reboot.

4121
02:31:49.020 --> 02:31:49.860
It is still mine.

4122
02:31:49.920 --> 02:31:51.360
I've been watching a bit of it.

4123
02:31:52.200 --> 02:31:57.120
Yeah, but it's just so fresh and energetic and...

4124
02:31:57.120 --> 02:32:01.020
I love the Eccleston series of the new series is probably my 4th

4125
02:32:01.020 --> 02:32:01.500
favourite.

4126
02:32:01.559 --> 02:32:06.659
My my top, though, is series four, tenant, a tenant and eight.

4127
02:32:06.780 --> 02:32:07.620
I knew you would say that.

4128
02:32:07.680 --> 02:32:10.920
For me, it goes Tenant and Tate. 1st series of Matt.

4129
02:32:12.120 --> 02:32:15.959
Series 9 that we've just had with Capaldi and then Eccleston

4130
02:32:15.959 --> 02:32:16.319
series.

4131
02:32:16.379 --> 02:32:17.340
Okay.

4132
02:32:18.120 --> 02:32:21.059
It says you who's not a fan of the new series.

4133
02:32:21.120 --> 02:32:27.299
I am a fan of the new series, but the old, this, this, that we've

4134
02:32:27.299 --> 02:32:27.659
just watched.

4135
02:32:27.719 --> 02:32:32.219
This makes my heart scene whereas the new series makes my heart

4136
02:32:32.219 --> 02:32:32.639
very happy.

4137
02:32:32.700 --> 02:32:34.979
Yeah, I agree with you completely.

4138
02:32:35.040 --> 02:32:38.520
It just feels like a lovely fan interpretation of something we

4139
02:32:38.520 --> 02:32:39.000
used to really love.

4140
02:32:39.059 --> 02:32:43.319
This is still, this is still, every bit as exciting for me as it

4141
02:32:43.319 --> 02:32:46.079
was the 1st time I watched it when I was 12 because it evokes that

4142
02:32:46.079 --> 02:32:51.600
feeling and it evokes, um, it evokes the friendship I had, um

4143
02:32:51.600 --> 02:32:54.840
because, um, Peter's moved overseas now and I haven't spoken to

4144
02:32:54.840 --> 02:32:57.540
him in many years, but it evokes that friendship.

4145
02:32:57.600 --> 02:33:03.600
I have where, you know, he made me about 10 bootleg tapes of

4146
02:33:03.600 --> 02:33:04.799
Doctor Who stories I didn't have.

4147
02:33:04.799 --> 02:33:07.860
And, you know, it ranged from stuff like this to survival and the

4148
02:33:07.860 --> 02:33:11.459
ultimate foe, you know, which I'd never seen.

4149
02:33:11.520 --> 02:33:17.459
And, you know, they were third, fourth, 5th generation VHS.

4150
02:33:17.459 --> 02:33:18.420
They were terrible.

4151
02:33:18.420 --> 02:33:20.040
But that was part of the experience.

4152
02:33:20.100 --> 02:33:20.700
Yeah, yeah.

4153
02:33:20.700 --> 02:33:25.139
Dear listeners, if you if you've only come to the classic series

4154
02:33:25.139 --> 02:33:29.280
with the DVDs, check out on Revenge of the Cybermen, a documentary

4155
02:33:29.280 --> 02:33:34.379
called Checks Wise and Videotape, which shows you what VHS

4156
02:33:34.379 --> 02:33:36.059
degradation looks like.

4157
02:33:36.120 --> 02:33:40.319
Now, in terms of our next episode, we will be moving on to next

4158
02:33:40.319 --> 02:33:41.819
Warriors of the Deep.

4159
02:33:41.879 --> 02:33:44.579
I can't tell you exactly when that will be.

4160
02:33:44.639 --> 02:33:49.559
Um, I'm hoping it will be 2 to 3 weeks after this episode because

4161
02:33:49.559 --> 02:33:52.139
this episode goes out while I am still overseas for work.

4162
02:33:52.200 --> 02:33:54.360
So I don't know.

4163
02:33:54.420 --> 02:33:56.760
We're not going to have a chance to record it before I go, so

4164
02:33:56.760 --> 02:33:58.260
it'll have to be shortly after I come back.

4165
02:33:58.319 --> 02:34:01.260
But we will be back as soon as we possibly can.

4166
02:34:01.319 --> 02:34:04.979
We will announce on our Facebook and Twitter at FTE podcast and

4167
02:34:04.979 --> 02:34:10.440
flight through entirety on Twitter and iTunes as to when we will

4168
02:34:10.440 --> 02:34:11.040
be coming back.

4169
02:34:11.100 --> 02:34:15.840
If you have enjoyed this commentary, and certainly if you want to

4170
02:34:15.840 --> 02:34:19.739
hear more of Richard's German accent and Richard screaming, I

4171
02:34:19.739 --> 02:34:20.520
can't hear you.

4172
02:34:20.579 --> 02:34:27.840
Do check out Bondfinger.com, Bondfinger cast on Twitter, on

4173
02:34:27.840 --> 02:34:30.780
Twitter and Bondfinger on Facebook and iTunes.

4174
02:34:32.399 --> 02:34:34.739
Any parting comments, gentlemen?

4175
02:34:37.799 --> 02:34:39.420
Todd's good.

4176
02:34:39.479 --> 02:34:40.379
Is it Michael?

4177
02:34:40.559 --> 02:34:44.520
Well, I won't be back for Warriors of the Dean.

4178
02:34:44.579 --> 02:34:45.299
No, that's true.

4179
02:34:45.360 --> 02:34:48.540
You will join us again for the case of Andrazani. that's right

4180
02:34:48.659 --> 02:34:49.799
What do you feel about this, Tuan?

4181
02:34:49.860 --> 02:34:50.340
What?

4182
02:34:50.340 --> 02:34:52.020
This thing what we just watched.

4183
02:34:52.079 --> 02:34:53.280
The story?

4184
02:34:53.340 --> 02:34:54.840
Yeah, the whole thing.

4185
02:34:55.620 --> 02:34:59.040
Just the story, I think. beautifully.

4186
02:34:59.100 --> 02:35:00.959
I actually quite like this story.

4187
02:35:01.020 --> 02:35:03.420
I didn't as much as I just did.

4188
02:35:03.479 --> 02:35:05.760
I think there's some epis moments that are better than others.

4189
02:35:05.760 --> 02:35:07.079
No, I think it's really fun.

4190
02:35:07.139 --> 02:35:08.340
I don't mind it.

4191
02:35:08.399 --> 02:35:11.280
I think where it weakens, the performance is elevated and vice

4192
02:35:11.280 --> 02:35:11.819
versa.

4193
02:35:11.879 --> 02:35:15.239
It's, it's, It's a lovely ensemble piece.

4194
02:35:15.299 --> 02:35:16.020
It's done.

4195
02:35:16.079 --> 02:35:19.739
You can you know what's really engaging about this, the amount of

4196
02:35:19.739 --> 02:35:21.659
adrenaline. everyone's terrified.

4197
02:35:22.680 --> 02:35:24.959
They don't know what's going on.

4198
02:35:25.020 --> 02:35:26.700
The script doesn't make a lot of sense.

4199
02:35:26.760 --> 02:35:27.840
There is no plot.

4200
02:35:27.899 --> 02:35:31.860
It's just a series of exurgencies that's elevating us to nothing.

4201
02:35:31.920 --> 02:35:35.879
Um, and yeah, they're winging it.

4202
02:35:35.879 --> 02:35:37.079
And the, and the fear.

4203
02:35:37.139 --> 02:35:39.719
It's like, you know, a lot of really great performances are born

4204
02:35:39.719 --> 02:35:42.299
from goodness me, we can't do this twice.

4205
02:35:43.620 --> 02:35:45.000
Right.

4206
02:35:45.059 --> 02:35:47.399
Well, just before we go, there's one more thing left to do.

4207
02:35:47.459 --> 02:35:48.479
Bathrobes.

4208
02:35:48.540 --> 02:35:50.340
We're putting on up and bathrobes.

4209
02:35:50.399 --> 02:35:54.299
Now that's a lead in because what I'd like you all to do now is

4210
02:35:54.299 --> 02:35:57.059
give me your Patrick Trouton stories that you want to that you

4211
02:35:57.059 --> 02:35:59.100
want to nominate and I'm going to do an ending for all of them.

4212
02:35:59.159 --> 02:36:00.420
Okay, Webber.

4213
02:36:00.479 --> 02:36:01.620
Webber fear?

4214
02:36:01.680 --> 02:36:07.020
I just think there's no point in doing this because by that time

4215
02:36:07.020 --> 02:36:08.700
we'll have power off the Daleks.

4216
02:36:08.760 --> 02:36:12.299
Well, and we have to do a Power of the Daleks commentary.

4217
02:36:12.360 --> 02:36:14.340
If nobody else nominates it, I'm going to nominate power.

4218
02:36:14.399 --> 02:36:16.139
Okay, I'm nominating it as well.

4219
02:36:16.260 --> 02:36:17.219
Okay, you're nominating power.

4220
02:36:17.280 --> 02:36:20.219
Toddles, nominate Power of the Tarlix, Tom.

4221
02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:21.239
What's your name?

4222
02:36:21.299 --> 02:36:24.239
Well, no, we're putting in...

4223
02:36:24.299 --> 02:36:25.680
Todd can put in whatever he likes.

4224
02:36:25.739 --> 02:36:26.819
Enemy of the world.

4225
02:36:26.819 --> 02:36:27.899
Enema of the world.

4226
02:36:27.959 --> 02:36:28.860
It's got Australia.

4227
02:36:28.979 --> 02:36:33.600
You think it would be great to have a, like, have a poll where it

4228
02:36:33.600 --> 02:36:35.040
was like...

4229
02:36:35.040 --> 02:36:40.500
We have to do whatever he said, and then and then 3 is... could

4230
02:36:40.500 --> 02:36:40.680
work.

4231
02:36:40.739 --> 02:36:41.940
I'm really thinking hard.

4232
02:36:42.000 --> 02:36:43.319
I'm tossing up between 2 stories.

4233
02:36:43.379 --> 02:36:45.479
Okay, what tour are you tossing up between?

4234
02:36:45.540 --> 02:36:46.440
The crotons.

4235
02:36:46.500 --> 02:36:48.239
Ha, which I love.

4236
02:36:48.719 --> 02:36:50.040
Enemy of the world.

4237
02:36:50.100 --> 02:36:52.260
Yeah, both of them.

4238
02:36:52.319 --> 02:36:53.819
I like both of them.

4239
02:36:53.879 --> 02:36:56.879
So Todd, let's say one's yours and one's mine, whichever.

4240
02:36:56.940 --> 02:37:01.680
So the nominees are Power of the Daleks, the Crotons, the Crotons

4241
02:37:01.680 --> 02:37:03.840
Web of Fear and Enemy of the World.

4242
02:37:03.899 --> 02:37:06.360
There's no way they're not voting for me in this poll.

4243
02:37:06.420 --> 02:37:07.079
I know.

4244
02:37:07.200 --> 02:37:07.799
Okay.

4245
02:37:07.860 --> 02:37:10.319
So the winner...

4246
02:37:10.319 --> 02:37:11.219
Maximum pal.

4247
02:37:11.280 --> 02:37:13.680
No one can vote for the war games.

4248
02:37:13.739 --> 02:37:16.200
We didn't say world games, is it?

4249
02:37:16.260 --> 02:37:17.040
I should do that.

4250
02:37:17.760 --> 02:37:22.020
So the Patrick Trout and commentary we're going to do as voted on

4251
02:37:22.020 --> 02:37:28.020
by you, uh, which will go out between seasons 21 and 22.

4252
02:37:28.200 --> 02:37:34.260
So between the twin dilemma and attack of the cybermen is...

4253
02:37:34.319 --> 02:37:36.120
The enemy of the world.

4254
02:37:36.719 --> 02:37:38.639
I didn't vote for that.

4255
02:37:39.899 --> 02:37:43.139
The enemy of the Toxic all the time.

4256
02:37:43.620 --> 02:37:45.840
The war games.

4257
02:37:45.899 --> 02:37:46.799
No.

4258
02:37:46.860 --> 02:37:51.000
This is this is what they do on news quiz when they're announcing

4259
02:37:51.000 --> 02:37:51.540
elections.

4260
02:37:51.780 --> 02:37:53.940
You know what, pig?

4261
02:37:54.000 --> 02:37:55.079
You know, you know what?

4262
02:37:55.139 --> 02:37:59.399
James, James Selwood, can do the war games by himself.

4263
02:38:00.420 --> 02:38:02.399
That's the tag.

4264
02:38:02.399 --> 02:38:06.180
Until we return with Warriors of the Deep.

4265
02:38:06.239 --> 02:38:09.120
Dear listener, thank you very much for listening and good night.

4266
02:38:09.180 --> 02:38:10.379
Good night.

4267
02:38:10.440 --> 02:38:12.059
See you soon.

4268
02:38:12.120 --> 02:38:15.540
I'm so glad Todd's agreed to do season one Wonder Woman podcast

4269
02:38:15.540 --> 02:38:16.020
with me.

4270
02:38:16.079 --> 02:38:17.280
This is delightful.

4271
02:38:17.340 --> 02:38:20.819
Bye everyone. me